I'm now levelling a Dwarf - Advice?

[AshNC]

I'm taking a little break from my main for a while, jumping to a new server (to resist the urge to twink) and starting a dwarf. I want to make a Warsmith out of him. I'm kind of doing this because I want to get a better feel for what it's like to play the one crafting race in the game.

I'm a whopping level 7 at the moment. I'm looking for pointers on what's the best way to start building my fortune.

Any advice from levels 10-20? 20-30? 30-40?

Thanks!

- Ash

[Valeo]

Sneak into the server room and manually edit your character's level to 75.

Trust me on this one.

[Ramadear]

Ok from lvl 10-20 you might wanna pick up a bow and solo. From 20-30 I grouped with two archer friends at ft. Pulled entire rooms, I got at least 3-5 levels a day. 30-40 we did garden of eva, from 44-55 we did Devil Isle. We went to the far back and pulled entire doll groups and pirate captains. Its a blast! Just make sure you use a polearm you wont regret doing so. Also light armor isnt a bad choice.

[Silviera]

Make sure to learn Spoil as soon as you can, even though you're not becoming a Scavenger later. You'll get great use out of it up to level 20 and it won't stop working until 25 or 30. The extra materials are invaluable to a dwarf, and if you're having trouble affording new equipment you can sell the materials off in Gludio. I'd suggest waiting to learn Craft until you can start making top NG weapons.

From level 10 to 20 I stayed in the Coal Mines, it's pretty farmer infested at times but big enough to find a good leveling spot or two. There's a quest in the dwarf town you can take at level 6 called The Hidden Vein, from the NPC Elder Filaur. You can kill Utuku Orcs of various types for 10 adena per quest item, as well as map pieces as a more rare quest item. Every 4 can be assembled into a full map you can turn in for 1,000 adena each, very helpful at that level. The best part is there's no limit to how many map pieces you can carry, so you can stay hunting for long periods of time and then return with a pile of them. I kept doing this far beyond level 6.

Once you get to 20 I'd suggest moving to the mainland and heading over to the Dark Succubi area south of the School of Dark Arts. These monsters spoil varnish and iron very frequently and drop Tunic and Stockings of Devotion at a surprising rate. Depending on what equipment you can afford you might have to wait until level 24 to do this.

From 30 to 36 I moved to the Abandoned Camp, taking on the Badge quest from Gludin. Your Spoil will probably be dying out by then, and you should be able to get enough Craft level to start making D-SS and selling these in town. It's slow but steady money, and definitely worth it when you're offline. That's as far as I got with my dwarf, but I'm sure plenty of others can offer good advice.

One other note, I never use SS when fighting so you can probably move to these areas much earlier if you do.

Edit: Updated some information on a quest after looking it up.

[Splatter]

Because of the lack of weapon skills and special attack skills, i would go with dual fist claws all the way to level 20.

[Belophan02]

u dont know what mess u have made for urself now, ash :p

[Belophan02]

btw, if u named ur dorf, Ash something, u might even get a party ;)

[LittleCutie]

Unless u r really passionate about playing a WS, it is not worth of your time. :eek:

At any rate, patience is required, since u run slow and u kill slow. Finding group as a WS is not too easy, either, unless u r with you r playing with your friends.

Twinking with best gear is strongly recommand; dual box is also strongly recommanded.
Either that, or stick to your old server and find some friends to help u out (on eq and powerleveling).

[Valeo]

Whoever's avatar is linked from that O-site (you know what I'm talking about) - Ramadear, I think - please remove it. That website is messed up and brings up a user/password prompt for many people, including me.

[shine123]

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Ash is asking for Lineage2 advice! omg this is great :D

-save all ur SP until 11. by then u have enough to get spoil and sweep at the same time.

-heavy mastery, blunt mastery and stun.

-until you get to 20, theres no point of leaving dwarf land.

-after 20, best place to lvl for awhile is probably neutral zone. things are green for you there. but if you hacked the server ^^, EG is best until under 30. then you go to cruma

-35+ you join a clan :p

-i dont know where you play, but in lionna the pole party is getting pretty common now. find out how common pole groups are on the server for cruma and decide either on tarbar or glaive. if there is even a small group for pole, go for the glaive. you level so much faster in a pole party.

-regarding low end crafts, try to keep the lvl 1 mats. crafting BspsD is the best way to make money in low level. crafting and selling SSD you cant get more than 2adena per shot. but with BspsD, your minimum is 3 to 4.

-join lionna :p you can play with DM and we will powerlevel u :D

[Belophan02]

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-join lionna you can play with DM and we will powerlevel u

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just PM shermine whenever u want to powerlvl some1 ;)

[Honestplayer]

Saving sp level etc whatever. Simple way to level a dwarf is get spoil and search. Find yourself a good ole bot and spoil its mobs til you bag is full. Head to town and sell it repeat til you get top ng and ss to spam. 3-4 days max to 20 and you will have extra money in the bag.

[Kaldonius]

Did I just see a GM ask how to play his own game? When the GM's are confused about gameplay, what chance do we have :confused:
Disclaimer: Large amounts of sarcasm may be present in this post, if you are sarcasm-intolerant, please look away and make an attempt at not exploding.

[Lothlian]

The best place from 20-28 is outside Dion! Spoil coal, varnish, and charcoal like mad! I made a cool 3mil doing this. It was back in C1 mind you when prices where sky high.

Dire Wolves - Charcoal
Archers - Varnish
I dont remember what the Coal is from, but its a common mob, wont take you long to find out.

At 28 I left for cruma marsh to spoil D Enchants, but they removed those from Toad Lords, so cant do that anymore..

Also Ash isnt a GM, he is a forum admin. I dont think he actually has anything to do with the game itself. I may be wrong though.

[YagiIkusuuki]

Advice he asks...

Well, the best advice I can give you is to stop. Now.
If you actually want to become a warsmith, that's a road several months long, without twinking/powerlevelling.
Nevermind that once you were to reach craft level 6 (could happen earlier, but this was it for me) and find yourself having to decide wether to keep that rare/expensive/useful recipe or trash it and replace it with something else, slamming your fingers with a hammer starts to look like an equally entertaining notion.

And your fortune could be made just as easy with any other class. Just befriend a gullible crafter (we are all such suckers for attention and friendly words :eek: ) to get stuff crystallised and make your drug millions with the help of 1a (or similar priced) craft shops. One of the biggest drug kingpins on Lionna is/was a Bounty Hunter. ;)
You won't be making any fortunes from crafting much of anything below top C and with craft shops charging 0.5 to 1% of the market price of the finished weapon/armor (which translates to about 10% of the recipe price) your fortune will be further delayed.

If I had even the faintest hope that the resulting frustration of you playing a dwarven artisan would facilitate any changes in game mechanics regarding this class before C4, I'd urge you on. :)
But I fear instead that said frustrations might combine with what you have to deal with for a living and an Ash running around the forums with a vein pulsing on his head and trying his (nerfed) stun level 2 on everybody is something I'd rather avoid. :)

So again, take this advice, turn back and play something more rewarding.

[DivineWolf]

Want my advice? Pick a girl toon, because then atleast you can play with your emotes when your bored with the dwarf :p

[TinyTerror]

So far I have seen alot of Advice on hunting for adena...A little now on Being a WS/Artisan

Between lvl 10 and 20 try and find the basic 5 lvl 1 recipies for your book. Coke, Leather Steel etc...If you wait to latter lvls you will be to high to spoil some of the recipies and will end up buying them.

At around 20 when you do your Artisan profesion change it is a good time to also get your D SS recipie. It is a drop from one of the mobs in the heart of the mithril mines the Night Mare Weaver.

Around your late teens you should be trying to aquire the basic material recipies for lvl 2.

With the basic lvl 1 and lvl 2, SSD and maybe BSPS D you are ready to make a little adena, although it is a little tuffer than it used to be because of the competition.

By knowing the value of items on the street and how many crystals an item can make you can start your small time wheeling and dealing. Several ways to make adena at this lvl, craft D SS..or...Look for bargains in D grade items you can crystalize and resell the crystals at a profit. Look for items for sell, or try to buy items you can combine in your shop and make a little bit. Knowing for instance that VOP is selling for $X and you find the materials cheap enough to combine it and make a profit can also be a small money maker.

Your next big break is when you hit lvl 36. The money there is in the Top D grade items..try and find you a bonebreaker recipie, ELS or Mith Dagger recipie. ..get a head or blade for each and set up buy shops and try to get the heads...If you do not have enough adena to go for a bonebreaker or mith dagger yet...try and get the elven mith glove recipie...or mith glove recipie...or plate boots there is still a little to be made in the smaller items.

As for making a fortune at the higher lvls...my WS is lvl 60+ now and I have a lvl 36 artisan I still do most of my D crafting on. I rember the first EMI I made was from scratch and took over an hour with a recharger...bah....The B and C profits are drying up somewhat but there is some adena to be made there. At higher lvls alot of dwarfs not only make SS and craft for cash but they combine and crack swords to sell crystals.

Last piece of advice for you, put a rock on your short cut for your SS...Spaming SS is your only special so you just as well get used to it now at lvl 7. You will find playing a dwarf you do not make enough adena hunting ...most all goes to your SS. By crafting it will help you get your armour and weapons.

[Grumpy0Dorf]

Gonna be tough to solo on a gimp class, Instant created a prophet and duo box ftw. If not, the grind are just unbearable. If your down time doesn't killed you, I doesn't what will. ;s

[Katastrophe]

The only advantage warsmiths have is at making money with little effort. Anything you're not actively playing the game your dwarf has to be in shop mode. You're either buying materials for cheap (for example in newbie towns) or selling crafted items for a profit. Craft shops by my own experience are usually not worth the trouble. The 10-15k you'll make in a night is a joke compared to what you can make otherwise, especially when you take in the cost of your recipes. Unless of course you're high level enough to have rare recipes, but that won't hapen for a while.

As I posted in an other thread that you were interested in, find a niche and craft it until the demand is satisfied, then move on to something else.

Try to make deals with some "suppliers" (if someone sells you a blade/part send them a PM asking they sell to you if they find more). Try to make some business relationships with people, not just one-time purchases/sales. A happy customer will come back for more and will buy/sell from/to you first if someone else sells at same price and in some cases they'll buy/sell from/to you even if your prices aren't as good as someone else, partly by habit but also because they know they'll be able to buy/sell the item very easily.

Everything you do, always think of the /time ratio. Either active time or passive time depending on how much time you have to actually play the game (or how much of that play time you're willing to spend mindlessly clicking a create button). If you think you can sell an item for 4m in a week or you can sell it for 3.5m in a day, evaluate how much more profit you'd make in your week in either case. If the item cost you 3m to make, that's 500k profit in a day versus 1m for the week. So if you sold it at 3.5m you could risk making a lot more profit than the person selling at 4m.

Always take advantage of "craft shop griefers" as I like to call them: those who got bored of their dwarves and set-up shops around 1-5a (level1) to 50a (level 4+) per craft.

As someone mentioned, making an eminence bow is a LONG process. If you make verything from scratch, at level 36 I think it takes somewhere around 3.8 hours total based on your mana regen. When my artisan was my main character I used to always have a ton of spreadsheets / databases opened on my computer to help calculate all those things.

I have a database that I update the price of raw materials and it tells me how much it costs to make everything I taught it to calculate. I check around to see the market value of the items and decide what is more profitable to do at this time. Sometimes one material will go up and you have to do other things instead. In other cases a material drops in price (like stone of purities) and there's new opportunities to get rich that didn't exist before.

If you're not too strong into programming I suggest at least using spreadsheets to store your recipes and costs in. Nothing sucks more than having to calculate the same recipe 5 times per week because materials change prices.

And if you can't find anything that's worth crafting, buy materials from a smaller town and sell them in a bigger town. There's usually a decent difference between buy and sell prices so you can make a good profit out of it. As an additional server you can also convert the materials. Some people will pay ridiculous prices to have their converted materials already made for them.

And operating what I call "ebay-taxes" can be a great option also. Find out what the flavour-of-the-month is and try to make items that they will be interested in. I called these ebay-taxes since early retail because it was quite flagrent when you saw a level 20 in top d equip or better yet a level 15 in top d equip who was wondering why he moved so slow or missed so much. Brig helmets/shields, d-grade plate set, top-d weapons (craft-onlys like bonebreaker/elven long/etc) and other stuff that someone shouldn't have when it's their first character are great examples of things you can make a great profit on. Selling an elven long sword to a newbie for 4m is ridiculous, but the guy selling his bow of peril to reroll a tank won't even think twice about it.

And if you accept a trade, always make sure you gain something in return even if the items are of same value. If someone wants to give you a Sword of Revolution for your Tarbar, NEVER say no, but make sure it's worth your time. Ask for the SoR + 100k for example. Should be enough that they won't take the time to sell it, and you make a 100k easily enough. And if the market of the traded item falls a bit, you have some margin to work with and not lose (or lose less).

I just hope this post will be readable when I wake up tomorrow morning. Getting very late here so I hope it's not too confusing ;)

[MOGMAN]

oh, and one more thing to look out for, be prepared to be mistakin as a bot. i have a WS alt and i tell ya, at least once every few sessions some perma red runs up and one shots me and screams "noob bot, you bot, u noobie noob noob, cheat bad, no cheat here.."etc. etc. :p

[Kypris]

I'm new to Lineage 2 (started last week) and i made a dwarf as my second to play when friends aren't online. As a young dwarf, pre level 10 should i invest my first funds into a blunt weapon, polearm, or armor. Please take into account that I do not have money for twinking.

[Silviera]

The general rule of L2 is to always buy your weapon first. You'll want to buy a blunt weapon first off since a polearm is designed to take on several monsters at once. That's something you really don't want to attempt at your level without top grade gear.

A lot of dwarves take weapons other than blunts and polearms pre-20. Since you don't have any weapon mastery for specific weapon types this doesn't hurt you at all. Blunts have high accuracy, but you can do more damage with several other weapons. As Splatter said earlier in this thread claw weapons work well too.

[Illegal]

I just have one thing to say to Ash. A Warsmith was my first character and I still play it. I have put many long hours into and built a great reputation as a reliable crafter they could be trusted with millions. Please take this comment in the context it is meant.

Reap what you have sown! Muahahahaaa!

[LordRedBeard]

Another thing i found useful: try to get some robes appropiate to your level. Whilst you have a shop open and just check it once in a while, the additional MP makes crafting of shots a lot more effective.
And when you have to decide which shots u should craft, here's my 2a :
D-SS are always in demand, just be sure there are not 3 others with 30k+ D-SS in their shops. Selling them 11a will net a profit of about 17% of your investment (depending on where u get your mats ;) ).
D-BSPS is not as effective: 8% profit at 53a sale, sells some slower, but is nearly always wanted in towns like Gludio, Dion and also Giran.
D-SPS is tricky: most people like the BSPS more, but you will always sell some k of them, and they net 16% when sold at 23a.
Please note that these numbers are for Gustin server, with a D Crystal price calculation of 600a and mats bought where they are cheapest (wise dwarves remember their roots), but they should give u a impression of what it could be :cool:.
You won't be the richest dwarf in Aden, but its a good steady income for your afk time.

Greetings from Gustin

[ptikiki]

Advice for 10-20

_Save SP for spoil-sweep
_For low 10s, follow the north road and go far NNE from town, you will find an area with garum werewolves (spoil = ani skin)
_Around 15: take the cheap teleport from gatekeeper, around there you will find a spot with magical weavers, some bats, and some goblins.
The magical weavers can spoil full item, bats spoil stem, gobos spoil charcoal.
_High 10's move to gludio and go south past ruins, there an area with shield skeletons, they spoil ironx2.
You might want to use heal potions untill 20, else 17-20 is a big pain.

[Mizwisfist]

from 8 to 20... advance logically in the mines as mops are geting tougher as usual.
Take enough of everything or a lvl 1 mule and all will be fine.

[Banestorm]

Strange how I just got this same question asked of me a few hours ago by a buddy of mine :D. Well the best thing for ya is to start off killing everything and anything that moves in the starting area, and slowly but surely you will fill your inventory with the odd mats and a ton of jewelery, which you can sell to any store to slowly gain access to wood armor(expecting you not to be twinked with unlimited funds). Once you have that and have worked your way up to gaining both spoil and sweep, time to get some specific recipes. Oh and make sure to either get a dagger or dual fist for a weapon, since you have no specific weapon skills no use in getting a blunt or polearm, since they don't sell as well as the others do when you are done with them. Now onto the recipes;
Dwarf area:
Braided hemp; Goblin Scout lvl 8, spoil
Coarse/Rough bone powder; Utuku Orc Archer lvl 8, spoil
Cokes; Goblin Brigand lvl 8
Leather; Goblin Brigand Lt. lvl 10
Steel; Utuku Orc Archer lvl 8, Garum Werewolf lvl 9, spoil
to start your adena empire;
Soulshot D; Nightmare weaver 21
Spiritshot D; Nightmare weaver 21, spoil

This will help you get you on your way, since crafting is the main purpose for the character, recipes are your reason for living/leveling. And like a few ppl have pointed out, hope you have friends where you are going since dwarves are hard to level since not many want to pt them. And make sure to choose a male dwarf, since female dwarves are a favorite of farmers, thus being a primary target for erradication and the extinction of the dwarven race :p

[GundamMKII]

If you want teams and level fast...grab a pole (not THAT one) and offer to do AOE teams (b^,')

[TinyTerror]

Some have given you advice to use a pole. I used one until lvl 38 and went light armour. At 38 i found increasingly more difficult to solo. With the new group mobs it may be easier now. It was fun but it cost me later.

Now the Real downside to using the Pole is this. If you research both skills as you come up..both Pole and Blunt when you hit lvl 49 and think you are gonna get to cast the big bad boy Siege Golem you find that you have gimped your SP severly. The 700 or 800K sp it takes will set you back well in to your 50's on updating your other skills. It is better to just speacilize on one skill if you want to get the golem and cannon skill as soon as you can.

[Ramadear]

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Some have given you advice to use a pole. I used one until lvl 38 and went light armour. At 38 i found increasingly more difficult to solo. With the new group mobs it may be easier now. It was fun but it cost me later.

Now the Real downside to using the Pole is this. If you research both skills as you come up..both Pole and Blunt when you hit lvl 49 and think you are gonna get to cast the big bad boy Siege Golem you find that you have gimped your SP severly. The 700 or 800K sp it takes will set you back well in to your 50's on updating your other skills. It is better to just speacilize on one skill if you want to get the golem and cannon skill as soon as you can.

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I guess its a bit difficult to maintain sp as a Warsmith. But as a Bounty Hunter I'm able to all my skills with no problem. Blunt, polearm, heavy and light all have their places thats for sure. Just depends on how the player wants to build his/her character. One thing I noticed though, polearm gets you in groups alot more. It out damages a blunt by far. Sure blunt has a faster swing rate. But the critical rate sucks. With a polearm sometimes I crit nearly every hit. Plus the aoe damage rocks especially on group mobs.

[Jersey1]

No No Ash you have to make a scav and try to level it out in the SODA area....you will be amazed at what you see....nice spoils in that area (varnish, bone and iron ore) but you will have a hard time getting any...

This may really allow you to see what everyone yelling about.

[YagiIkusuuki]

Pole? Blunt? Both!

As pointed out already, until the late 20s duals will out-damage pretty much anything else a dwarf can handle. That never stopped me from being true to my character and use blunts, but that's just me being me.

- The blunt/shield combo is essential when soloing and wanted in "normal" groups.
- A polearm will save your butt in the case of multiple mobs or get you into AoE groups.

Specializing on either (esp. as a warsmith) is counter-productive.

Now I would love to have my siege golem skill and eventually I will. But with the possible exception of Teon there are going to be a sufficiently large amount of really high level warsmiths to choose from when it comes to a siege. Why would any alliance (clans don't win sieges, alliances do, real ones or in spirit) want me in to summon my first golem in composite armor when the defenders can 2-shot me? They will go for the 60++ warsmith in top B heavy armor.
And if a clan/alliance REALLY wants me to summon a golem, the SP needed is a matter of a week or so. Until somebody actually wants that service, my SP is better spent on the various skills that benefit ME daily, including big boom.

Or course, as Ash will find out (unless he heeds my advice), actually being able to FINANCE a decent blunt and pole at the same time with a first time character is a totally different story.

[EllieBelly]

Oh man good luck Ash! I started a dwarf and got her to 10 before I broke down and twinked. I did one char from scratch no twinking and one is enough for me ^ ^

[Mim]

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Make sure to learn Spoil as soon as you can, even though you're not becoming a Scavenger later. You'll get great use out of it up to level 20 and it won't stop working until 25 or 30. The extra materials are invaluable to a dwarf, and if you're having trouble affording new equipment you can sell the materials off in Gludio. I'd suggest waiting to learn Craft until you can start making top NG weapons.

From level 10 to 20 I stayed in the Coal Mines, it's pretty farmer infested at times but big enough to find a good leveling spot or two. There's a quest in the dwarf town you can take at level 6 called The Hidden Vein, from the NPC Elder Filaur. You can kill Utuku Orcs of various types for 10 adena per quest item, as well as map pieces as a more rare quest item. Every 4 can be assembled into a full map you can turn in for 1,000 adena each, very helpful at that level. The best part is there's no limit to how many map pieces you can carry, so you can stay hunting for long periods of time and then return with a pile of them. I kept doing this far beyond level 6.

Once you get to 20 I'd suggest moving to the mainland and heading over to the Dark Succubi area south of the School of Dark Arts. These monsters spoil varnish and iron very frequently and drop Tunic and Stockings of Devotion at a surprising rate. Depending on what equipment you can afford you might have to wait until level 24 to do this.

From 30 to 36 I moved to the Abandoned Camp, taking on the Badge quest from Gludin. Your Spoil will probably be dying out by then, and you should be able to get enough Craft level to start making D-SS and selling these in town. It's slow but steady money, and definitely worth it when you're offline. That's as far as I got with my dwarf, but I'm sure plenty of others can offer good advice.

One other note, I never use SS when fighting so you can probably move to these areas much earlier if you do.

Edit: Updated some information on a quest after looking it up.

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agreed but with the following advice:
FIRST: get a friend to start a healer. you will level together and you will not regret this.
between 12-15 or so jump to gludin and kill felim lizards to spoil lots of charcoal. from 14-20 or so kill vuku orcs north a ways by the OB road turn off and spoil lots of coal and wooden helmets.
20-23 succubus (farther north even still) & 24-27 hobgoblins (lots of coal)
weapon: i preferred using dual fists till 20's, then get a tabar as soon as possible. with a healer you will not need any soul shots or heal potions. having a healer friend is key. soul shots will drain you. you and your buddy will gain exp faster together, and get rich.

[THEJadeDragon]

Levels 10-20

The top floor in the Coal Mines makes for an outstanding place to grind (assuming you have the gear to do so). I know you said you are not twinked, but some of the mid-range gear seems to work pretty well there too. From 16-20, this is the best place if you're -

1) Lookin for more SP/kill than XP.
2) Lookin for money/item drops (you'll get tired of seeing some of the recipes... but wooden gaiter/helm and hard leather pants drop semi-often and sell well even to the vendor)
3) To delevel for options 1 and 2.

Don't forget the Floating Stones/Magical Weaver quest and the Bat Fang quest. You'll have plenty of both to kill over and over (and over and over and over.....)

Varnish drops fairly often and the Gemstone Beasts spoil Varnish at seemingly high rate.

As for 20+, can't help ya, been too long and too much has changed. My old hunting grounds from C1 are death traps now... :confused: Stupid Monster Eyes.......

[Jute]

I found the varnish rate on the gemstone beasts a bit disappointing. But the bat and weaver quests for the win!

[Jazia]

For best xp before you are high lvl enough to group inside DVC(dragon vally cave...or we should say Antharas' Lair) or Toi (tower of Insolence), is to solo with a Prophet buff/heal slave outside party. I am sure you can manage that :), since even I did it by buying a second game box and lvl up a Prophet slave of my own. Best to be a lvl 56+ prophet for highest lvl of buffs such as Deathwhisper, Guidance, Focus, Haste, Shield, Mighty, Bless shield, Bless body, Holy weapon(when against undead), Regeneration.

The best weapon I choose is actually not common at all for dwarf but effective until high lvl 40s(near lvl 50). I use a dagger :) Because Dagger has the highest critical rate just like bow...weapons such as dual swords, blunt, their critical rate is almost non exist if compare with dagger/bow. With Prophet's buffs such as Focus 3, you can do even more critials. and with Deathwhisper, you can do 6x damage as normal hits on critical SS hit which is the true damage you relay on killing the monster. Equal lvl monsters can only take 2~3 critials like that before get killed. Also dagger's hitting speed is the highest of all. Thus combine all these facts(highest critical rate, highest atk speed, true damage with full Prophet buff is relay on critical hits), a dagger works better than blunt or dual sword until near lvl 50 since you get more and more blunt mastery which will have higher and higher p.atk with a blunt while your p.atk with dagger almost does not change. Well it worked for me perfectly. :)

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For hunting locations and monsters

lvl 1~15
can go to any beginners' dungeon such as Elven Fortress, Elven ruins, coal mine etc.

lvl 15~ low 20s
Ruins of despair (first skeletons, then zombies and bugbear)

lvl low 20s ~ around lvl 25
outside cruma (leecher, mis horror etc.)

lvl 25~ lvl 30
high ground of Execution Ground. (beserker etc.)

lvl 30~lvl 35 low ground of Execution Ground (hangman tree, bats, golems, goul etc.)

lvl 35~lvl 37 or 38
do wyrm quest from the NPC guard at north bridge of Giran. (hunt harpy, medusa, wyrm near Giran Castle...castle not town. but be careful if you are on Bartz. Giran Castle just fell into the hands of Thor, I heard they eat dwarves)

lvl 39~lvl 40
do either deathpass (windus, roadscavenger) or go to near Oren hunt lizardmen (warriors or sharmen) (again be careful your back if you are on Bartz, Bluedragons just took over Oren, they love to backstab. so make sure put some extra armor on your back)

lvl 40~ 48 or so
go hunt the Cave Servant class skeletons just inside Dragon Valley entrace. First just "cave servant", then go deeper and take on harder ones such as "cave servant warrior or captain" as you lvl up. Later on Royal Cave servant and headless knights.

lvl 50+ you should be able to do Cemetary. Anything that is white/yellow to you should be ok.
(be careful if you are on Bartz. Redknights just took over Aden, and they threated to pk the ppl they are war with off server and they are doing it. so don't get in their way)

Once you hit lvl 55, DVC and ToI are the best xp you can get. but it requires full group with perfect buffs/heal classes. You will need a high lvl Prophet + a professional healer such as Bishop, EE, or SE(or just a warcryer + SE), a swordsinger, a bladedancer, a tank class with hate, and some damage dealers to form this perfect party. The xp you can get from this perfect party is beyond any xp any solo class can get. You can lvl at those 2 places all the way to 75.(still takes time though)

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For equipments

lvl 1~19
Composite Bow & Sword Breaker
Broze set & Bone Shield

lvl 20~lvl 39
Mithril Dagger (best to be overenchanted...I was using a +4. Want to buy from me? lol...it has no use for me any more)
Brig set (brig tunic, gaiters, helmet, shield full set for bonus), Elven Jewelries

lvl 40~ near 50
Dark Screamer or Grace Dagger with Weapon Special Ability of FOCUS(Focus is a must, +81 critical rate will make the already highest critical rate weapon even better. You'll have nearly 210 critical rate even without buff). Make sure enchant it.
Full Plate Set with top C jewelries.
(when near lvl 50, as you get more and more blunt mastery, use a dagger might not be as good any more, so you might want to get a Yaska mace with Health SA until hit lvl 52 for B grade)

lvl 52+
Grab the
Doom Heavy Set full bonus.
Weapon wise I am not sure yet lol, just get the highest B blunt I guess. My warsmith isn't that high, so I am not familar with top B blunt weapon.

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Hope that helps.
The key is to make sure you have a high lvl Prophet slave buff/heal you outside party until you are high lvl enough to group inside DVC and Toi. This is the fastest way to lvl up. I used this way to lvl my my warsmith. I dual boxing on same PC, so I could use my prophet slave to buff my dwarf.(well now after yesterday's patch, client closes instantly when we click anywhere else outside it...unable to dual boxing any more...nor can use the PC for anything else as long as L2 is open...please fix it...and also login problem still exist)

[Aelegent]

LOL I never expected a post like that from ASH...OMG I wonder what server he's on.. (Bet its Gustin..or has he joined the stampede leading out of it? YOU TRAITOR!!! T^T)

[Pandamonia]

[ QUOTE ]
Make sure to learn Spoil as soon as you can, even though you're not becoming a Scavenger later. You'll get great use out of it up to level 20 and it won't stop working until 25 or 30.

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Not exactly true.

I've played on Pandamonia almost exclusively since the start of Open Beta and have always spoiled mobs i was killing unless their spoils were not worth the effort. Now at level 61, I still spoil mobs in DVC and TOI and actualy have decent spoil yield rate.

Spoil on a high level warsmith in groups is actually a nice alternative to spoil on a high level bounty hunter in groups. The reason is that warsmith's level 1 spoil only uses 13 mp which we regen faster than we can cast it, but the bounty hunters level 7 or 8 spoil uses so much MP that they spend most of their time in the group without any MP to spoil at all. The result is I spoil mobs an average of 2 - 4 spoils per mob while they spoil an average of 1/8 spoil per mob, or spoil 1 out of every 8 mobs. The net result is that i get about 1/3 to 1/2 as many spoil yields per mob as a bounty hunter. Thats not as good, but thats actually quite impressive.

Also, for high level Dwarves, Warsmith and Bounty Hunter, I have committed my toon to be as much of a Damage Dealer as possible since i have no hate skill to be a true tank. I am so extremely impressed with the outcome that I cannot resist sharing. I do tons of damage for using a 1-hand "fast" weapon: Crit Kariks for 1300+ and Cave Beasts for 1500+ etc.

So, with no more ado, here is my setup at level 61 (All my profits go into my setup/leveling):

Name: Pandamonia
Race: Dwarf
Class: Warsmith
Level: 61

Weapon: +3 Deadman's Glory with Anger SA
Shield: +3 Doom Shield
Armor: Torso: +3 Blue Wolf Breastpate
Armor: Legs: +3 Blue Wolf Gaitors
Armor: Helmet: +3 Blue Wolf Helmet
Armor: Boots: +3 Blue Wolf Boots
Armor: Gloves: +3 Blue Wolf Gauntlets
Accessory: Necklace: +3 Necklace of Black Ore
Accessory: Left Ear: +3 Earing of Black Ore
Accessory: Right Ear: +3 Earing of Black Ore
Accessory: Left Hand: +3 Ring of Black Ore
Accessory: Right Hand: +3 Ring of Black Ore
Tattoo1: High Degree of Strength < Str+4 Con-4>
Tattoo2: High Degree of Strength < Str+1 Con-1>
Tattoo3: High Degree of Dexterity <Dex+4 Con-4>
Effect: Blue Wolf Heavy Set: Str+3, Dex-2, Con-1, Speed+7,HP Regeneration+5%
Effect: Anger SA: +26patk, -15% max HP

Unbuffed Stats
HP: 2721 (normal: 4022)
MP: 1048
P.Atk: 618
P.Def: 731
Accuracy: 99
Critical: 44
Atk.Speed: 420
M.Atk: 155
M.Def: 524
Evasion: 86
Speed: 134
Cast.Speed: 203

Str: 47
Dex: 31
Con: 35
Int: 20
Wit: 10
Men: 27

Also, any dwarf, and i do mean any dwarf that wants to ask me questions/advice, i am always happy to do so in game. Just pm me and i'll respond as soon as i am able/get back from afk.

Love,
Pandamoni

[Orchish]

I will not be able to give you advices in order to help you level your Dwarf Ash...

However, I can tell you that I am happy that you are playing the game fairly... I think there is nothing better than playing the game in order to learn about the pros & cons of it...and every GM should have an excellent understanding of the game seen through the eyes of the players...or should I say the clients...


Maybe it's just my ignorance, but I am not sure if your job description requires you to play the game. But thank you anyway for doing so, I like the idea that you know what we are going through.

[StThomas]

Ill level ya, Ash....

SSUURREEE

Hey...if your on Hindemith, just pm me on me rogue...

Ill level ya NICE and proper like

(thumbs tip of dagger) yyeeaaa....Nice...and...Proper.

[Shadow_Master]

a good idea is if u dont want to make urself filthy rich then get sweep+spoil and stay low lvled until uve gained enough mats to make adena and have left over for crafting ull make enough money to support ur toon and ull hae fun seeing fireworks hehe

[GordonGreedstein]

Pandamonia,

I don't know the level of the BHs you party with, but a 60+ BH can spoil every mob without a problem because of high MP regen rate, assuming you can sit fora moment while your party pauses to rebuff.

If you are in a perfect party (haste2, dance of fury, song of hunter) then yeah, you'll deplete your MP because you're killing/spoiling super fast, but otherwise - spoiling every single mob is no problem for a 60+ BH.

As for your setup, it's very nice except I don't like the Anger ability. I think you give up too much HP for too little P.attack. How much p.attack would you lose if you switched to Health SA?

[BooBoop]

Hi,
As a young dwarf, make sure to be doing as many of the quests as possible, they actually aren't bad money makers.
I used a cheapy bow to draw the mob to me, then switch to club and a shield (dropped by a keltir, i think). Do the weapon quest coming up at level 10 from Bronf or the guy in with him, it's not a bad hammer and I used it for quite a while. Hunt the wolves on the way out to wherever u wanna hunt at, sometimes the quest gives expensive item to sell, once you get spoil, use it on everything that crosses your path, lol. werewolfs give good spoils and not bad xp, same with the other quests people mentioned above, try your best to spoil many mobs before they turn blue to you, to get many of the needed lower level mat recipes. if you're gonna do golems, you probably might want to save up for some good heavy armor, otherwise, whatever you can afford is fine, weapon, go for whatever does the most damage in your price range, orcs love to drop the broadsword recipes and blades, craft some after you get the skill and sell off until you can get a good sword and shield or hammer and shield, low level matts need to be saved until you can make higher level stuff, ie., save the animal bones for CBP, skins for leather, etc., they're good money makers. stems can be used for jewelry crafting later on, you won't find a better thing to spoil than the bats in Elmore, so make sure to be hitting them all the time your there. once you leave for mainland, maybe around 20-ish, head either to gludio to do skele's, or south road coming out of gludin, that road all the way to the wastelands is great for 20-25 ish. Try and group up whenever possible, your spoil works fine, just try for light blues, greens and whites. if you're grouping, and doing yellows your spoil will take a while to land, but it eventually will, I've had a hard time with reds, not much luck, try to get someone to tank while you're trying to get it to land, a healer is nice also. A bow is nice if you have someone to root the mob, but it can drain MP, so, I only use it to get a few shots off, then whack away at it with a hammer. stun works great for me usually, needs a blunt weapon. i make a comfortable living just doing quests, a few days of leveling, and then on busy days, setting up a shop with low level mats like CBP, leather, cokes. if you're in desperate need, don't forget to use the manor system. And you're crystals cost a lot less in Elmore, so stock up before the mainland adventure. Good Luck!

[1ns0mn1ac]

I got a bad vibes this morning that Ash's Dwarf is already Level 75 and probably wearing S Grades by now. :)

Cheers...

[TinyTerror]

If not lvl 75 yet I wonder if any one knows who his charicter is and on which server?

I am sure if the word got out, unlike most of us artisans and ws he will get plenty of parties...probably a few prophets offering there services to help him on his way and I am sure there are a few people out there that would donate him some gear.

You wouldnt happen to be on Sieg would you Ash? I do have a SE who specializes in helping low lvl char and he has every top NG armour and weapon made in his wh ready to go. (brownie points accepted for helping)

[StThomas]

Ash's Dwarf should be a quest-mob.

[Sema]

Ol Mahums in PH are great for leveling in your 20's. You kill the lower level Mahum that you come to as you enter the area and as you level up the farther into PH you go to kill higher level Mahums. They are great for spoil and adena as well as xp. Was the best place I ever found once I figured out that they liked to run and get some help from their buddies. Watch the pattern of each group of monsters and you should be able to solo with no problem and on Div it rarely seems to get overcrowded. By the way, do not sit at the crossroads where the road enters PH. People like to run up to you and punch you to see if your a bot instead of just asking you.

[Mim]

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Ol Mahums in PH are great for leveling in your 20's. You kill the lower level Mahum that you come to as you enter the area and as you level up the farther into PH you go to kill higher level Mahums. They are great for spoil and adena as well as xp. Was the best place I ever found once I figured out that they liked to run and get some help from their buddies. Watch the pattern of each group of monsters and you should be able to solo with no problem and on Div it rarely seems to get overcrowded. By the way, do not sit at the crossroads where the road enters PH. People like to run up to you and punch you to see if your a bot instead of just asking you.

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yes and watch out for Mr. Nurka. he prefers the southern 1/3 of PH for himself. lol

if you go there mid-20's and take a healer you will get rich

[Sema]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Ol Mahums in PH are great for leveling in your 20's. You kill the lower level Mahum that you come to as you enter the area and as you level up the farther into PH you go to kill higher level Mahums. They are great for spoil and adena as well as xp. Was the best place I ever found once I figured out that they liked to run and get some help from their buddies. Watch the pattern of each group of monsters and you should be able to solo with no problem and on Div it rarely seems to get overcrowded. By the way, do not sit at the crossroads where the road enters PH. People like to run up to you and punch you to see if your a bot instead of just asking you.

[/ QUOTE ]

yes and watch out for Mr. Nurka. he prefers the southern 1/3 of PH for himself. lol

if you go there mid-20's and take a healer you will get rich

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Yep, if Nurka starts chasing you (he IS aggro) just start running. :p You should lose him about halfway back to town!

[mizuko]

i like using a bow on my dwarf. Only thing with bows is they use up mp... so i'd prolly carry a blunt as back up. girl dwarves are much more fun than boyz. :) I'm stilling learning to play a dwarf myself... but i think that u'd prolly want to wear robes as an arty cause crafting uses up mp.

[TOURTURESUX]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm taking a little break from my main for a while, jumping to a new server (to resist the urge to twink) and starting a dwarf. I want to make a Warsmith out of him. I'm kind of doing this because I want to get a better feel for what it's like to play the one crafting race in the game.

I'm a whopping level 7 at the moment. I'm looking for pointers on what's the best way to start building my fortune.

Any advice from levels 10-20? 20-30? 30-40?

Thanks!

- Ash

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Just tell me the name, server, and where u are currently hunting i will come show u a good time.

Etriqan:ashNC hey man whats up?
ashNC:hi man how are u 2 day?
Etriqan:good good let me try out your new weapon
ashNC:ok
Etriqan:sucka its a q not a g, good look on your weapon SUCKA
ashNC:Hmmm maybe we should actually stop this scam and ban people who do it,o well back to work all my time playing this game was just wasted and now i have nothing :(

[LibertyBOOM]

lol

[Amborix]

I wonder if HGMspam has ever logged on one of his 70+ to gank Ash. I bet the GM's pk each other when ever they can get away with it. :o

[GaladronsBoy]

I second what Illegal is saying here. As a 60+ WS, having a good reputation is essential. Good luck and try not to get discouraged. Still waiting for that bigger recipe book. :p

[Faur]

I think my best solo segment as a dwarf on my road to 40 was doing the lizardmen group right outside gludio with a polearm.
At lv32 I would get 2k+ xp each group in just a couple swings (SS, SS, WildSweep, Next!) where as in teams I would get 400 xp each fight.
Ideally you want a healer since it gets you a ton of downtime, but then there's the issue of crafter groupability.
Downtime sorta has one advantage, bring as much soul/spirit ore and crystals as you can and craft while healing. Boring though :p

The golem is really nice to solo with, but only for a portion of your levels. If you got a golem upgrade 10 levels ago, he's not worth the xp-penalty vs damage. I got a new golem at 43 and he is much stronger than me while taking up less xp than a teammate. I'm soloing pretty effectively with him for a few levels until I "outgrow" him again.
Golems are also pretty good for farming items, adena or quest rewards. Twice the damage but you get to keep all the loot. Your golem's damage also counts as "your last hit" if you need that for quests.

[shine123]

Jazia said at 20 get a mithril dagger.. at 40 a DS..

Ash said hes making a dwarf, not some PW..

its absolutely a waste of money to leave dwarf town before 20. wait for your class change and then move out.

[Katastrophe]

Further advice, this time about hunting:

And as someone mentioned, the hobgoblins, dire wolves and, uhm, something captains I think east of dion are GREAT spoil targets. Partisan's Hideaway also. And make sure you try the seeds system while you're at it, probably worth your time to combine both spoils + fruits.

As for actually playing the dwarf, well, erm, f1-attack, f2-stun, f3-stun(40+), f4-soulshot, f5-pick-up and the rest just put emotes. When you're earlier level, replace stun buttons by spoil/sweep. Click a mob, attack, soul shots and read a comic or chat on your second computer while the fight goes on. Or watch TV, listen to radio, just keep yourself busy because you're gonna go crazy fast if you keep watching the fight. It's long, boring, uneventful. Just keep your button pressed on the soulshot button and you'll be fine. Not like you can do anything to save yourself if something bad happens anyways ;)

As for who/where Ash is, I heard rumous that he's Katapult from Erica, now party me, err, him!

And in regards to golem summoners, I can't explain it since I'm only level 36, but most people who I've seen summon golems for their first time usually mess up between 5 to 10 times. And in some of these cases I'm talking about leaders of major alliances who played their character to quite high levels, so they're far from being newbies. Stopping the golem seems to be a major issue. So while using a low level warsmith for anonimity could be a great idea (we all know who the golem summoners are for both side and the warsmith with b-grade will die faster even though he has better hp/p.def than the low level warsmith).

And once you hit a new crafting level (especially as you become higher-leveled), the best move you can probably do is take a break from the dwarf for a bit. Focus on crafting and never leave town except to go shopping in an other town.

As I stated in my first post, money is the only advantage of a dwarf and people expect you to compensate for your useless-ness in groups. Most often clans will ask you to craft for them for free, but when it comes to getting exp they'll take the dagger user instead of you since he does more damage. Having an over-enchanted top-quality item will help getting groups. A level 28 dwarf with a +3 bonebreaker or better will have decent chances of finding a group. Or just go solo, really not a great class for that, but it's better than sitting for 2-3 hours waiting for a group who'll most probably suck anyways.

[Jazia]

[Quote]Jazia said at 20 get a mithril dagger.. at 40 a DS..

Ash said hes making a dwarf, not some PW..

its absolutely a waste of money to leave dwarf town before 20. wait for your class change and then move out

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sry but I thought I stated it clear enough.

I lvled my warsmith this way. It works perfectly. I saw equal lvl dwarf with blunt start beating on the same type of mob before me, I still took out the mob first.(i know that dwarf has buffs too...I can see that from his hitting speed)

You did not get my point. I know dwarf suppose to use blunt and polearm. But why do you think lots of dwarves use dual swords? Because even without any mastery for it, they still get higher p.atk.

Same with me, though dwarves do not have dagger mastery, at low lvl the amount of blunt mastery won't give you much higher p.atk than a dagger. I tried it already, it's like 150 p.atk vs. 170 p.atk on char sheet, while the critical rate of dagger is 2x higher and atk speed too is almost 2x faster. It makes up for that little 20 p.atk. Not just yet, with prophet buffs(deathwhisper) on critical ss hit, you do 6x damage as regular hit, 3x of regular ss hit. Which is the true damage that you need to finish the mobs off.

I said it clear enough. Mobs near your lvl only can take 2~3 critical ss hits with deathwhisper buffs. If you use a blunt, good luck on getting critical hits.

About when to leave dwarf town. You might be correct if someone start fresh new in the game. As for me, it's just one alt, not my main. I had more than enough adena to port back in. Dwarf town is boring with so little people, so is all the beginners' towns. And it filled with farmers.

[AshNC]

As of last night... Level 9! World Domination pending. Although I don't even have enough to buy Spoil OR Sweep yet. I might be able to afford one of them at level 10. Hmm. The levelling hasn't been bad at all, either. The Hidden Vein quest has proven lucrative.

More as it comes.

- Ash

[TinyTerror]

lvl 11+ before you have enough sp for both..the trick to this is if you have a buddy lvling with you one gets spoil at lvl 10 the other gets sweep.

[thaiphoon]

[ QUOTE ]
As of last night... Level 9! World Domination pending. Although I don't even have enough to buy Spoil OR Sweep yet. I might be able to afford one of them at level 10. Hmm. The levelling hasn't been bad at all, either. The Hidden Vein quest has proven lucrative.

More as it comes.

- Ash

[/ QUOTE ]

Ash - Good luck on your quest for money and glory - err at least money since you'll only be a dwarf (I have a scav so I can say that). I hope you take the time to to take note of the farmers and botters in dwarf town and the other areas on your way up. Hope this is an educational and rewarding experience in more ways than one for you.

In closing - Good Luck !!

[Katastrophe]

Yeah, the SP costs for spoil 1 + sweep are really too steep I think. If you don't buy any other skills, you can probably get them between level 10 and 14 depending which mobs you killed. I also found that mobs around dwarf village seem to have worse SP rewards than similar mobs in other areas.

Personally for orcs I found orc village was more lucrative for money because of the quests, but dark elven village for other races. I think dwarf village has some very decent spoils off the mobs, so it might be worth sticking around there. But for SP reasons and better money quests I brought both of my dwarves to the main land as soon as I could afford to.

[Grumpy0Dorf]

Must felt like a ghost town now without those farmers/female dwarf war crying on their next spoiled mob.

Soloing by yourself all alone. I did that for 30min and I quicky log off :s

I miss my main so much hehe. Interaction in this game are pretty much the main focus. Strive to get pass lvl 20 Ash! You can do it! haha

[Shadow_Master]

no u cant use ur powers to ultima lvl urself to lvl 1000 and pwn all and own ur own castle on ur own and strike down all who oppose u then ull get the whole server to fight u and work together ^^

[AshNC]

Just a short update on my dwarf:

I made level 10 and immediately did the quest for the Silversmith Hammer. I had enough SP to buy Spoil, with a little left over. I also had enough adena to buy all but one piece of my first armor set. Even with the cheapest weapons in the game, I found that I could kill the necessary mobs without significant risk of death. I had to rest after each one, but I got a quest item on almost every kill - sometimes multiple. Not to mention that many of the dwarven quests have overlapping quest mobs, so while trying to get the stolen jewels, I got Goblin Necklaces and Suspicious Memos. While trying ot get the Star Diamond, I found myself collecting Bat Fangs as well.

With the Silversmith Hammer, I'm pulling and killing white mobs with relative ease. So far, resting is the only downside. While it is true that I don't have any attack skills (and therefore, no over-hit), I really think the quests make up for it so far.

My current agenda is:

- Acquire Sweep
- Complete first armor set
- Simultaneously repeat "Covert Business," (kill Blade Bats) "Dreaming of the Skies" (kill Magic Weavers) and "Brigand's Sweep" (kill Goblins).

I can see that being pretty decent money and XP for the next few levels. I have to admit that some of the complaints about the lack of combat skills before 20 had me expecting much worse. I'm actually enjoying starting from scratch. We'll see how it goes from here. More updates as they develop. :)

- Ash

[Elrohir]

Don't know if someone already stated this but the quests for bat fangs and magic weavers give 60 SP for completion (as well as 2400 adena) each.

[JackDaFarmers]

Tell me where you are so I can mistake you for a farmer and PK you. Ooops, i mean uhhh uhhh believe in Jesus.

LOL, jk Ash. So how many times have you been pked so far. I got griefed and pked a few times while playing my dorf. Of coarse it could have been my name, 'MidgetAlt' doesn't go over well with the heightly challenged. But more than likely it was just some kid out pking dwarfs in the name of FARMERLAND, instead of doing his homework.

Usually goes something like this.

Random Noob hits you for 2000 dmg
Random Noob: You a bot?

Anyways, gl with that Ash.

[BoomStick]

One thing that I found very important in hunting with a dwarf is to be very picky in which mobs you spoil.

I always watch the items I'm spoiling from each mob. If they don't spoil frequent enough or spoil junk, I won't spoil them.

Level 10 - 20 I would try to only spoil base mats, heal pots, full items, or SoE's.

This will help you squeeze the most money out of your MP :D

[Elrohir]

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Tell me where you are so I can mistake you for a farmer and PK you.

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Lionna.

[JackDaFarmers]

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Tell me where you are so I can mistake you for a farmer and PK you.

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Lionna.

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LOL, Joke k thnx

[AshNC]

A naked Chaotic player did attack me out of the blue. I didn't attack back, I just laughed and said something like "I think you must have me confused with someone else." He swung a couple more times, and I stayed calm. I started to run and he could have easily chased me down and finished me off. And being Chaotic already, he had nothing to lose. But he didn't. I think it's because I didn't give an adverse or hostile reaction. I just logged.

I might have fought back but I found him wailing on me after coming back from being AFK and my HP was already at half. I just accepted that my fate and XP was now in his hands, and I could either give him the satisfaction of a reaction, or just be cool and hope it made him change his mind. For whatever reason, he backed off and gave me time to log.

- Ash

[DivineWolf]

Pfft, weak dwarves, did I ever log when chaotic players killed me over 50 times on Talking Island? No, I took the XP loss like a mystic and stood ground! Did I die? HELL YES! Do I still do it? HELL YES! ;)

[Elrohir]

[ QUOTE ]
Pfft, weak dwarves, did I ever log when chaotic players killed me over 50 times on Talking Island? No, I took the XP loss like a mystic and stood ground! Did I die? HELL YES! Do I still do it? HELL YES! ;)

[/ QUOTE ]
That's just so... L33T!

I had someone plug my dorf with an arrow the other day. Didn't even see him enter the room (I was too busy pwning orcs). Anyway, I turn around and without even thinking start pounding on him (he was red). He kept encouraging me to kill him (which I did). Working off karma, is my guess. Unfortunately he only dropped arrows (1300).

[shine123]

i heard that dwarves get almost no active skills throughout the game before i started mine. so i was also expecting very slow and boring start. but i didnt really think about it until i hit 20+. i met a ton of people that can buff themselves and have at least 2 active skills.

but the thing is that dwarves sort of make up for the lack of active skills by having more hp imo.

what server are u on Ash? everyone is curious. you dont have to tell us ur name, but the server would be nice to hear.

[JackDaFarmers]

[ QUOTE ]
Pfft, weak dwarves, did I ever log when chaotic players killed me over 50 times on Talking Island? No, I took the XP loss like a mystic and stood ground! Did I die? HELL YES! Do I still do it? HELL YES! ;)

[/ QUOTE ]

The only thing that comes to mind here is a flood victim that says he's going to build his house in the same spot. Even after his house was destroyed 5 times already.

[DivineWolf]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Pfft, weak dwarves, did I ever log when chaotic players killed me over 50 times on Talking Island? No, I took the XP loss like a mystic and stood ground! Did I die? HELL YES! Do I still do it? HELL YES! ;)

[/ QUOTE ]

The only thing that comes to mind here is a flood victim that says he's going to build his house in the same spot. Even after his house was destroyed 5 times already.

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Hey, thats mean! I loved the spot, ofcourse I build it there, flod or no flod.. Next house will be in brick so even the mean wolf can't blow it over! :)

[JackDaFarmers]

[ QUOTE ]
i heard that dwarves get almost no active skills throughout the game before i started mine. so i was also expecting very slow and boring start. but i didnt really think about it until i hit 20+. i met a ton of people that can buff themselves and have at least 2 active skills.

but the thing is that dwarves sort of make up for the lack of active skills by having more hp imo.

what server are u on Ash? everyone is curious. you dont have to tell us ur name, but the server would be nice to hear.

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SirElrohir?

[JackDaFarmers]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Pfft, weak dwarves, did I ever log when chaotic players killed me over 50 times on Talking Island? No, I took the XP loss like a mystic and stood ground! Did I die? HELL YES! Do I still do it? HELL YES! ;)

[/ QUOTE ]

The only thing that comes to mind here is a flood victim that says he's going to build his house in the same spot. Even after his house was destroyed 5 times already.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey, thats mean! I loved the spot, ofcourse I build it there, flod or no flod.. Next house will be in brick so even the mean wolf can't blow it over! :)

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ROFL what a great attitude. Very nice :)

[AshNC]

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what server are u on Ash? everyone is curious. you dont have to tell us ur name, but the server would be nice to hear.

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I won't say just yet, as it would be too easy to figure out who I am if I keep giving more details about my progress. Maybe once I've levelled up high enough to disappear into the mainland crowd...

- Ash

[shine123]

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i heard that dwarves get almost no active skills throughout the game before i started mine. so i was also expecting very slow and boring start. but i didnt really think about it until i hit 20+. i met a ton of people that can buff themselves and have at least 2 active skills.

but the thing is that dwarves sort of make up for the lack of active skills by having more hp imo.

what server are u on Ash? everyone is curious. you dont have to tell us ur name, but the server would be nice to hear.

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SirElrohir?

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hmm??

Ash: gotcha. im going to assume ur not playing it on PTS. and going to hope your on lionna :) if you are, watch out for DM's tax collecting

[DivineWolf]

Nah, he is on Bartz, the red above is a farmer protecting the dwarven farmers area he intruded upon..
Ofcourse he is on PTS, why do you think it keeps getting delayed, those "corrupted files" are in reality Ash'es small hacks in the PTS database to bump up his character with 500 runspeed, 3000 armor etc. :) (and the red chars are GMs trying to get him off the server) :D

[Elrohir]

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i heard that dwarves get almost no active skills throughout the game before i started mine. so i was also expecting very slow and boring start. but i didnt really think about it until i hit 20+. i met a ton of people that can buff themselves and have at least 2 active skills.

but the thing is that dwarves sort of make up for the lack of active skills by having more hp imo.

what server are u on Ash? everyone is curious. you dont have to tell us ur name, but the server would be nice to hear.

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SirElrohir?

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Sorry dude. I've met Shine123 in game so he knows who I am...

[JackDaFarmers]

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i heard that dwarves get almost no active skills throughout the game before i started mine. so i was also expecting very slow and boring start. but i didnt really think about it until i hit 20+. i met a ton of people that can buff themselves and have at least 2 active skills.

but the thing is that dwarves sort of make up for the lack of active skills by having more hp imo.

what server are u on Ash? everyone is curious. you dont have to tell us ur name, but the server would be nice to hear.

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SirElrohir?

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Sorry dude. I've met Shine123 in game so he knows who I am...

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That was a response for you to tell him what server he is playing on. Kinda like your response to me. :)

[JackDaFarmers]

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what server are u on Ash? everyone is curious. you dont have to tell us ur name, but the server would be nice to hear.

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I won't say just yet, as it would be too easy to figure out who I am if I keep giving more details about my progress. Maybe once I've levelled up high enough to disappear into the mainland crowd...

- Ash

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What? Are you the only dwarf playing in dwarf land?
Server dying? Server Consolidation? Is that why your rerolling. Doing Analysis?

Sorry Ash. I had to do it. The voices made me say those things.

[TinyTerror]

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A naked Chaotic player did attack me out of the blue. I didn't attack back, I just laughed and said something like "I think you must have me confused with someone else." He swung a couple more times, and I stayed calm. I started to run and he could have easily chased me down and finished me off. And being Chaotic already, he had nothing to lose. But he didn't. I think it's because I didn't give an adverse or hostile reaction. I just logged.

I might have fought back but I found him wailing on me after coming back from being AFK and my HP was already at half. I just accepted that my fate and XP was now in his hands, and I could either give him the satisfaction of a reaction, or just be cool and hope it made him change his mind. For whatever reason, he backed off and gave me time to log.

- Ash

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For funnies today I made a dwarf ...went red and ran around beating on farmers.....I sure hope Ash wasn't one of them my lvl 3 dwarf was beating on. He would feel so bad for logging out.

[uNDeRPaNTS_GNoMe]

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A naked Chaotic player did attack me out of the blue. I didn't attack back, I just laughed and said something like "I think you must have me confused with someone else." He swung a couple more times, and I stayed calm. I started to run and he could have easily chased me down and finished me off. And being Chaotic already, he had nothing to lose. But he didn't. I think it's because I didn't give an adverse or hostile reaction. I just logged.

I might have fought back but I found him wailing on me after coming back from being AFK and my HP was already at half. I just accepted that my fate and XP was now in his hands, and I could either give him the satisfaction of a reaction, or just be cool and hope it made him change his mind. For whatever reason, he backed off and gave me time to log.

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you just LOGGED??????? oh man, that lost cool points in my book :( if i were you i would have made ubertoon faster than the speed of light and laughed while he ran..... :eek: or at least said "rang rang i cut joo mang" oh well... the dreams of the mortals :) ps.... welcome to the world of the skill-less.... aint it grand? :mad:

[AshNC]

So, I recently acquired Sweep at level 11, and found that it works almost every time on Blade Bats, and almost never on anything else... at least, not that I've tried so far. I'm doing all the repeatable money quests simultaneously, which is going pretty well, XP and money-wise. I completed my wooden armor set, which I'm pretty proud of. :p I went ahead and bought the first level of weapon mastery as well, which bumped my P. Atk by 3 (4 with my bow), so that was worth the 310 SP. I don't imagine I'll be investing in the subsequent masteries any time soon, as the payoff is not as high (and I'll be needing it, I assume, for more crafting skills after 20).

So, it's been a bit slower with the dwarf as the PTS has captured my attention recently. But he's still plugging along. Is there anything special anyone can recommend that I do between 11-20, or should I just settle in for the long stretch to the Artisan quest?

- Ash

[Splatter]

I can say when you do that class change, you might need at least one persons help dealing with those Boogle Ratman Leader's.

The aggressive mobs you have to go through to get to the Boogle can be plenty.

[Splatter]

By the way what did you decide on blunt, bow or fist weapons?

[Silviera]

Spoil works very often on Garum Werewolves, they give animal skin which can net you a lot of extra cash by the time you get to the mainland.

I'd suggest working on Weapon Mastery over anything else now that you've got spoil/sweep, every P. Atk counts when you're a dwarf. In the 20+ levels you'll find that SP costs are much less harsh, and by 35 you'll have more SP than you know what to do with, so you'll have more to spend on getting craft up.

You're going to need some high craft levels to start making a real profit other than selling SS for a bit of extra cash each day.

[shine123]

i would like for u to do the calculator quest and try using the **** thing. i keep it on my hotkey bar on my "shopping" bar. theres a few things wrong with the calc.

first: the buttons sometimes doesnt press right. actually, this also goes for the whole game. whenever you are trading and you are asked to define the amount, sometimes the first button doesnt get logged into it. i donno what thats about.

second: after i am done with my first calculations, i leave the thing running because i may need to use it again. when i try to use it the second time without "restarting" the calculator, it gets buggy. i cant tell exactly what but i think the 2nd calculation gets mixed in with the 1st one. i tried pressing the C and CE buttons to cancel and clear the first order, but it didnt work. only way to a 2nd calculation is to close the calculator after the first use and reopen it for the next use.

its not a big deal, but sometimes i forget that i have to reopen it sometimes.

[Ticklemytummy2]

WOW...wish I had seen something like this OH so long ago when I started my dorfs. This rocks one of the GM's are playing what I think is the hardest char to level. Yeah Yeah oracles are hard too but they are easily groupable (you should see how many people ask Tmt to group when i'm 2 boxing). GL Ash..It's gonna be rough going :) . BTW BH FTW!!! hehehe :)

[shine123]

burried on page 27...

so hows your dwarf going? has it hit D grade yet?

[AshNC]

Not D Grade yet. I haven't had a lot of time to play lately, with Chronicle 3 right around the corner. Here's my current situation:

Level 13
Weapon Mastery 2
Armor Mastery 1

Wooden Set
Silversmith Hammer
Short Bow
Ring of Racoon/Ring of Firefly

I currently have 32k in cash, plus about 5k in drops that aren't crafting materials, five-figures worth of crafting materials. I've been tempted to upgrade my bow, but as long as I'm still making forward progress, I won't rush it. I don't think I'll recoup the cost of the upgrade fast enough to justify the expense. If I sold off all my mats, I could afford to upgrade my weapon by one step right now. However, there isn't an active market in the Dwarven Village, so I'm thinking about just soldiering on.

I do have a specific question: Should I sell my mats to upgrade gear more quickly, or should I hold on to them as long as possible?

So far, it's been a very... calm experience. My total net worth at level 13 is much higher than it has been on any prior character.

I got a lot of letter drops, but not the right combination to spell anything. I suppose I could try selling them off.

That's the latest and greatest from Dwarf Land. More as it develops.

- Ash

[StThomas]

If your on Hindemith, youve probably already been PKed by me already....

I pk pretty indiscriminatly in Dwarf Land, lol.

those dirty dwarves.....

[Jute]

I'd hold on to your mats. Every single one you have now is one less you have to buy later.

Although your spoil will work occasionally later, it's really not going to work well for much after level 20.

[Rad]

Ash, HOLD on to every material drop you get your hands on! Material prices are getting higher and higher! On kain varnish is selling from 650-800! Can you say "GREED"! :eek:

[Silviera]

I would suggest saving all your materials not only until you get to the mainland, but until the launch of C3. If we see a similar effect that C2 had on the economy, then we'll have people paying outrageous prices for materials in the first few weeks of C3 in order to get A grade immediately.

This is just a theory of course, and some people disagree. Use your own judgement in any case.

[MeiRei]

I like how ash is making a blog of sorts about his character... very fun to read. I like how for some reason, he also plays the newbie card, we all know that you have the knowledge of those elitists.

Either way, hope you have fun playing your dwarf!

note: please don't tell who u are or where u are. so many childish people would like to say they killed a GM.

[Atrophical]

My dwarf is level 13, too. I'm contemplating moving to the server I made it (the dwarf) on for good. If you want a leveling buddy, I wouldn't mind switching again.

[WS_Molson]

Ash,

Seriously, you must be a very special person. Starting a dwarf on a new server, with no help this late in the game=sucker for punishment.

You ask for advice, but IMO you won't make it past 40 unless you sneak on your GM char and give some boosts.

I really hope you do get high enough lvl and realize that the 50 recipe limit is one of the stupidest things ever thought of.

Oh and if they ever do expand that limit, I want a refund for all the time and adena I wasted making a 2nd ws to handle all the recipes I need to use.

Lots of ppl here have given you advice, but I know from experience, 90% of my friends and clanmates just couldn't hack the dwarf experience.

[Lothlian]

My dwarf is now level 39! I've spent the last 10 levels farming for my Yaksa mace. I bought the heads with money I got on my BD, and when I had everything for it except crystals and gemstones I sold my dwarf's duals and bought those and crafted. I then realised I couldnt level to 40 with a Yaksa mace.. So I had to borrow another set of 107 duals... lol. Great planning !

[SinPalabras]

Ash,

I commend you for jumping in and seeing how this beast of a class works from the ground floor.
The Warsmith is the most difficult to level… as you will soon discover and deeply lament. The dwarf classes have left many kind souls shattered and ruined. Not sure of your current healthcare benefits, but I certainly hope post-traumatic distress syndrome therapy and a full battery of grief counselors are offered. You will need them; I expect long before your artisan reaches level 30.

As for advice…

* Craft only the rarest weapons and only at a premium.

* Go to Heine, speak to the guards and perform every quest there. The rewards will surprise you and since this is a newer area, you won’t have to compete with as many farmers.

* Do not waste SP on masteries that you’ll rarely use.

* Forego the traditional poles and blunt weapons if you truly wish to level quickly. My WS uses duals with Haste SA, but I’ve experimented with weapons with high crit rates as well. It will take you forever to put down a mob anyway, so pick a weapon that best offsets that deficiency.

* Set up a private shop selling SS and other buffs/general items just outside some of the more frequented hunting grounds. Back in C1 I made millions by selling SS at Ivory Tower, the Blazing Swamps and the Cemetery like this. Every hunting ground has an “aggro-free” zone where aggressive mobs never spawn. Find it, sit and sell for all your heart’s content. You will be rich.

* Pay attention to the Siege calendar. Also a great way to make money selling SS as everyone will want to stock up.

* The limited craft books means that some of the higher levels are forced to send business elsewhere. It also means that they will need a lower level to craft their wares Develop and nurture that relationship and you will never starve.

Finally…

By week’s end, my WS will be level 52. I would not have made it this far without friends. So, if you wish to truly immerse yourself into this role, you must gather some very trustworthy cohorts. If you do, you will reach the rarified air of A grade with your sanity intact. If not, you’ll burn out as a WS long before you get to craft your first 10,000th soulshot.

Good luck and I look forward to hearing what improvements you’d make to enhance the gameplay for dwarves.

[AshNC]

The weekend finds me at a whopping level 15. I was able to upgrade to a Dwarven Mace without selling off any of my hard earned mats, which continue to accumulate at a decent rate.

I visited the Northern Coast for the first time, and I actually saw many more players than I did elsewhere. This was interesting because they weren't hunting monsters exclusive to that area. They were hunting Magical Weavers and Barbed Bats, which can be found in abundance in the Abandoned Coal Mines. Also, there's a greater distribution of aggro mobs among the passive ones, unlike the coal mines. However, all of this is going to change in Chronicle 3, as a quick run-through on the PTS showed a completely different mob distribution in the mines.

I completed the Gatekeeper's Favor quest. The drop rate for the quest items (you need to collect 20 star stones) was a tad low, suggesting that it would indeed be faster just to farm the 3,000 adena necessary to teleport to Gludin. I did however get a couple of Synthetic Cokes recipes. Yay.

But then I did something against the advice of many... I teleported to Gludin. I just wanted to get out of Elmore for a while, and since I had the token, why not? So it will cost me a few thousand to go back to start my quest. No big deal. I also did it to see if I could find cheaper deals on some gear upgrades. I'll let you know how it turns out.

I also ported it in part to complete the Curse of the Fortress quest. It was a lot harder than I remember it being, and I required some assistance to complete it. I did lose some XP in the process, but I got the Bone Shield. I can also do the Dwarven Kinship quest for an easy 6100 adena, and pay for my return teleport that way. It's a lot of running, but it's completely safe, and I have to run back to Gludin anyway.

Now that my next big goal is hitting level 20, I have some questions:

1. What's the cheapest gear I can use and still complete the Artisan quest?
2. Once I become an Artisan, what's the first thing I should do?

So far, levelling my dwarf has been a very peaceful experience. I can project that any new players with a proclivity for crafting will have a much easier time in Chronicle 3 with all the new player features. I'm looking forward to 20 now. More news as it happens.

- Ash

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I visited the Northern Coast for the first time, and I actually saw many more players than I did elsewhere. This was interesting because they weren't hunting monsters exclusive to that area. They were hunting Magical Weavers and Barbed Bats, which can be found in abundance in the Abandoned Coal Mines.

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Their names would happen to be "jijijijiji" and "LSplayer045" would they?

[HammerThorn]

Hemm I did not see anything helpful to crafters in C3? Perhaps you can give a hint or two of those improvements for crafters? I played one to lvl 52 just to be able to do some b crafting.
I have a lvl 53 on gustin that was my main till C2 hit and ruined the class for players leaving it for farmers.
I had hoped for some bone in C3. We are still paying crazy prices for recipes and with farmers willing to craft for very little there is no profit.

Hammer - Useless dwarf - ******ed - retired - exploited
WC looking for party!
WC looking for party!
WC looking for party!
WC jumping off cliff

[Silviera]

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I can project that any new players with a proclivity for crafting will have a much easier time in Chronicle 3 with all the new player features.

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What he's saying here is that it won't be painful for someone who's just starting out on the game to level a dwarf as their first character anymore. The NPC buffs and SS from quests for example make it much easier on new characters, though this isn't exclusive to dwarves.

[shine123]

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omg Ash said yay!

seems like your doing well. just out of curosity, how many stems do you have? :D

when i was at dwarven village for WS quest, i found a few ppl up in northern shore as well. majority of them were doing the scavenger quest (hunting bears) and a few were just avoiding the bots in the mines. (and possibly, the tax collector?!)

the artisan quest isnt too hard. you have to hunt mobs that are around lvl 17. so it should be white i think when your at 20? i was wearing Piece Bone set and weapon that i cant remember.. im sure it was some blunt. probably the dwarf mace?

for that quest you have to go out to gludin and gludio. would have been better to shave a little money and stayed in elmore where its safe. i think the bats in the mines spoiled bandages.. seriously... how useless is that?

for where to go, i suggest outside of RoD. get the bone collecting quest from Gludio and go for skeletons. inside RoD is a nightmare. life sucking and fireballs hurt so much. ESPECIALLY with NG gear. maybe with elven jewels its ok but i dont think you would have it by then. stay outside of RoD until you spend a good time on the skeleton and zombies outside. it pays pretty good too, since it depends on how many pieces you return. after that, maybe go into RoD with a duo or trio of healers and DD.

did you try the calculator? did it work ok?

also, could u try the Adept of Taste quest in Dion? u talk to the guy inside the house behind Sophya at lv 22. theres a part where you hunt mandragora and the higher the class, the better type of drop you get. you need 100 (i think) drop from them and its increadably rare to get 100 from man****ras that are up in EG pit. the little ones just outside EG entrance are easy. (the NPC tells you that the quality of the ingredient pays more) i know i heard DM gave up on the quest. so did i. its painfully hard.

[Caleria]

I did gather all materials for the adapt of taste quest in best quality... It was painfully slow even with my archer.
The reward was slightly higher than what I'd got at lower qualities (except for Jonas' souce recipe... great). I suggest to do a middle quality dish, this way you can repeat the quest twice or thrice and get a better reward in the same time.

Orc Barracks is a must for dwarfs up to lvl 30, great source of coal and the only one for a long, long time... and you'll need a lot of coal. ;) Also a nice quest there.

Cal

[Pyr0]

One of the BEST friend you can make is a Scavanger, Duo with them all the time, make them have spoils on turn, and you will end up one of the richest Artisans at low lvs. and if your really luck and make really good friend with the scavy he may sell at a discount to you!
Best of luck!
BTW Dwarf FTW

Dwarfs are the coolest with the controls to the 5 story robots :) :D

[Katastrophe]

Selling your materials or not is a very tough question. I guess if you can get a good price for them (set-up a sell shop in giran, don't sell to the first buy shop you see), then you'll maintain your networth. With A-grade coming out in C3, I suggest you take advantage of the ebayers. Sell them your materials at insane prices and think of how much money you're getting for how little items you give them. If you sell a CBP at 10k and buy it back at 3k in a few weeks, that's a 7k profit you made.

And you have to balance between how fast you level and how much you save. If you're forced to sell your weapon to a NPC to upgrade, you lose money. On the other hand, you will kill faster thus gain money faster. If there was a NG economy I'd say 800-10k-quest-60k-100k-240k weapons (rough market prices, 60k being the first SS weapon before C3) would be my suggested progression. With the amount you lose each time you upgrade because of a bad economy, you might want to skip a weapon here and there. And in C3 all weapons will be able to use SS and with some quests you'll get an almost infinite amount of newbie-grade SS.

You seem to understand the concept of networth and that's how I usually calculate things for my dwarf. Just remember to calculate for the future also. A weapon isn't only an expense, it can also be an investment which will enable you to make more money.

As for doing your quest, my guess is that a 60kish weapon should be enough (the lowest one that can use SS). During the first days of the PTS we saw a lot of people using 100k and 200k weapons at levels 40 and even some at level 50.

If you feel very adventurous you can try with the quest weapon, but I think you're probably better off using SS for your quest. I don't suggest you use SS outside of that until you become rich, but for a quest like this staying alive is more than a good reason to waste some adena on shots.

[TinyTerror]

I dug this thread up because I had to know

You didn't burn out on your dwarf yet have you Ash.
Maybe like most of us you got caught up in the test server and C3 launch.

[Felicty]

I currently hae a 40+ level Bounty Hunter. She is my main. I spent a lot of time soloing, and had clannies who were able to help me power level. I would stay in the dwarven lands until 15-20. As "hit them til their dead" character, I've had my best luck with the green mobs. You don't need ss and you don't need to rest that frequently. You make up the difference in xp per monster by volumne of monsters that you can kill before needing to rest. Make sure you stock up on healing pots. I have a habit of accidentaly aggroing too many monsters at once. I would pretty much hold onto your material until you hit Giran. You'll get a better price for them there. Also, as a first enterprise, before you leave Dwarf land, get as much cash together and buy soul ore, spirit ore, healing pots ,and haste pots; as many as you can afford. Stash the ores for later D shot production. Then hit the Dion area and set up shop. These items are cheaper in Dwarfland, and you can make a decent profit from selling these for an adjusted increase that is less than the Grocers. You should sell out of those pretty darn fast.

For mainland leveling, if you can get a mage/healer to keep your helath up, or have awhole lot of heal pots and ss, monster searcher hill is a good location from about 15 to 28 (30ish). The eyes are double hp creatures, which means more xp for you; and you can spoil some nice things there. If you spoil a D SS recipe, and stock up it, it would make things easier to kill faster. Sell the excess for a quick buck. From 28-30 on, I would hit Partisan Hideway, again dbl hp creatures, good spoils, and the Hideway monsters have gradients. So, as you level, you can adventure deeper into the hideway to get better experience. I hunted a lot there from 28 up until about 37/38. From 38 on, the Lizardmen Warriors in the Floran Village area are sweet. Again, dbl hp creatures. The Eye thingys (can't remeber their names) are highly aggro and social without a huge amount of xp, but their drops are nice. You can get good money from their drops, or stock up on those harder to find mat's that you are going to need for crafting. I usually split my time between Floran and Death Pass. Mostly becauseI could combine leveling, quests, and seeding for materials in both of these areas. Starting at 25, seeding also helps with mat collection for either crafting, or selling. Get a harvester and buy about 50 seeds at first. i set up a macro that first targets next, seeds, spoils, then attacks. Not bad for the push of a button.

Hope this helps,

Felicty, Bounty Hunter Extrordinaire :)

PS: Recipes that are a must, Spirit/soul shot, all grades, steel, silver, Course Bone Powder, Orihurikun.

[AshNC]

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I dug this thread up because I had to know

You didn't burn out on your dwarf yet have you Ash.
Maybe like most of us you got caught up in the test server and C3 launch.

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Not burned out. Just got completely derailed by the launch and by E3. I did get him up to a fearsome 16 just to keep the momentum going. I did the "Dwarven Kinship" quest that begins in the Dark Elven Warehouse, and the reward for that quest has increased. You receive 2000 adena for making the first delivery in Gludio. However, when I made the final delivery in Gludin, I received 20000 adena. It used to be 4000 if I recall correctly. I highly recommend doing this quest at some point, if you're under level 20.

- Ash

[Choch]

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I did the "Dwarven Kinship" quest that begins in the Dark Elven Warehouse, and the reward for that quest has increased. You receive 2000 adena for making the first delivery in Gludio. However, when I made the final delivery in Gludin, I received 20000 adena. It used to be 4000 if I recall correctly. I highly recommend doing this quest at some point, if you're under level 20.

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cannot....resist....

When things like this change shouldn't the change be documented in patch notes? (its not listed in Etrigan's thread) Maybe not what the reward was changed to but that the reward was changed....or am I off base with that idea?

I think that as player Ash you just encountered something that AshNC can use to improve the communication. Amazing!

[AshNC]

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cannot....resist....

When things like this change shouldn't the change be documented in patch notes?

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Yes, they should. But that is a topic for another thread.

I did pick up a Bronze Breastplate and Gaiters for the little guy yesterday, partially with the cash earned from the Dwarven Kinship quest. Grim Collector wasn't paying off as well as I'd heard, so I went back to Elmore, only to find all of the mobs completely re-arranged. Thanks to the "Location" feature in the quest dialog box, I tracked them down easily.

With my top NG armor (well, except the Wooden Helmet), I'm an excellent tank against greens. And with no XP penalty on greens now, I'm leveling much quicker now, and spoiling more frequently.

All in all, I have to say that I found it worth it to leave Elmore long enough to upgrade to gear that I couldn't find, and then come back to do the profitable quests, and start my first transfer quest at 19.

Oh, and I should mention I'm also getting the newbie magic now. It's an interesting change from when I started this character in Chronicle 2. Those buffs really help. I can basically hunt without resting indefinitely.

That's the latest. More as it develops.

- Ash

[shine123]

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I'm leveling much quicker now,

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i wonder at what level you can afford a brig set.

[Splatter]

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All in all, I have to say that I found it worth it to leave Elmore long enough to upgrade to gear that I couldn't find, and then come back to do the profitable quests, and start my first transfer quest at 19.

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I find it interesting that you went out of elmore to do quests in other towns being under 20. The only quests i've done out of elmore was when i was over 20.

I think i need to relook at the way i've been doing quests.

[AshNC]

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All in all, I have to say that I found it worth it to leave Elmore long enough to upgrade to gear that I couldn't find, and then come back to do the profitable quests, and start my first transfer quest at 19.

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I find it interesting that you went out of elmore to do quests in other towns being under 20. The only quests i've done out of elmore was when i was over 20.

I think i need to relook at the way i've been doing quests.

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Well, primarily, I wanted to do my transfer quest with better gear than what was available in Elmore, so I figured I'd do the Gatekeeper's Charm quest to pay for the port to Gludin, I'd buy Bronze, or a better weapon, then do Dwarven Kinship to pay for the return port.

Oh, and I also wanted to start the Get a Pet quest, which requires you to go back to Elmore to hunt spiders.

Also, this is not meant so much as a power-levelling strategy. For pure speed, I probably could have gone faster just grinding my way up to bone armor in Elmore, and doing the quest with the limited wares buyable from the NPC store.

I also wanted to see if Grim Collector was as sweet as people say it is for that level range. Perhaps it will be in a few more levels, but in the mid/late teens, the quests available to dwarves in Elmore are much more profitable. Adena + quest drop + spoils = good money.

- Ash

[robinE]

Don't do the Get a Pet quest: pets are [censored] in C3. In case censoring catches that, pets are dead in c3. Save yourself alot of money and forget about pets: they aren't worth the cash you spend on them. Granted, C2 pets were fun, useful and challenging but in C3 they are a waste of time, money and SP.

(Language check. And if that's true, won't it be better for me to see that for myself? That's why I'm doing this character. - Ash)

[DivineWolf]

Gotta agree with robinE on that.. I have raised alot of pets in Lineage II, my bro and I did a wolf to 25 in prelude (back when you could do poison cloud and hit the mob for full XP :P) and I have done 4 striders (1 on real, 3 on PTS).

So far, only pet worth it is a twilight strider, and not for its stats, but because it gives you extra run speed (like all striders) and best part of all: 1 food at 50% = full food bar and it takes a looooong time before it reaches 50%.

I miss my hunter in world of warcraft, its pet (atleast before they got bugged - mine started running of randomly to get agro I didnt need nor asked for T_T) atleast gave me lots of added damage from from when I got it at level 10.. I close to doubled my killing speed. The food dropped of other creatures, and I had to feed it like 1-2 food every 1-3 hour or so and it would be happy and stay by my side. I could get pet heal, and when taming right pets, I would learn attacks I could train my pets with to increase its damage.

Best part was that I could always fish for food when I was low, and when it died, it only got mad at me so I just had to feed it after resurrecting it (you never loose it unless you release it or keep it unhappy for a loooooong period of time, not like the 20-30min after death it goes away like in Lineage II).

If the current wolf pet could turn into a low level mount or did way more damage/could stand more hits and dont eat so darn much food, then one could consider getting one, but right now.. Food/equipment cost (almost, your a dorf so u earn more from spoil) more than you can earn, and if you can earn it, don't think you can get D-grade anywhere soon.. :(

[robinE]

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(Language check. And if that's true, won't it be better for me to see that for myself? That's why I'm doing this character. - Ash)

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Yes. it will be good for you to see how much the devs shafted pets in C3. Which, had you actually played a wolf or hatchling on a regular basis like i did in c2, you would already have known. tbh i thought the devs would kick back at strider/hatchling owners in c3 simply because of the exploiters but i never thought they would ruin all pets as bad as they did.

And please, don't skulk around the noob areas. Go to places where things hurt. Mobs like archers who power-shot your pet wolf killing it in one or mobs that immediately go for your pet after spawning before you can target them even though your pet is doing nothing (and is in idle mode) and you are attacking something else (tried and tested BTW).

[AshNC]

I'm pleased to announce that my dwarf has reached level 20. I have successfully completed Path to an Artisan, and changed my occupation.

I've decided to skip the skills Bandage, Weight Limit, and Light Armor Mastery. I bought Create, Crystallize, Stun, Heavy Mastery, and got the last levels of generic Weapon/Armor Mastery.

Stun Attack has been very nice, and for the next few levels, I'll still get a few of the newbie buffs. So that should make for an effective combination. I hope.

My gear is:

Bronze Gaiters
Bronze BP
Hard Leather Helmet
Leather Gloves
Boots

Dwarven Mace

Apprentice Jewelry
Ring of Firefly
Ring of Raccoon

168,000 adena

I need 40k to swap up to top NG (I like the Iron Hammer because, unlike it's counterpart, I can spell it and pronounce it). I can make this money relatively easily if I just sell a few base mats.

My thoughts on playing a dwarf to 20 haven't changed too much. It was a tad slower than other fighter types during Chronicle 2. The Chronicle 3 newbie buffs made a demonstrable difference. I haven't crafted a single thing yet, though. The transfer quest was kind of fun.

I had some trouble getting to the Boogle Ratmen Leaders to collect their teeth, due to mob distribution in the Abandoned Coal Mines. You're required to cross one of two parallel, narrow wooden catwalks. Both sides of these catwalks are loaded with Akaste Bone Warlords (agro!). The catwalks are so close together that it doesn't matter which side you choose. You'll agro both sides. If you got lucky, you might be able to solo your way through them if you were packing a top NG weapon and used auto-SS. However, even that's not a sure thing because these bad boys have a shield stun. Very tough. I got through only because two other players happened to show up as I was trying to run this gauntlet.

Once through that bottleneck, killing the quest mobs was just fine. I would recommend doing this quest with at least one other person.

I did the Tarantuala Spider's Silk Quest while I collected the Bloody Nails for the Get a Pet quest. It paid off just about as well as killing Barbed Bats (for Covert Business) did, which was nice because the bats were turning blue around level 17-18.

So, to all you dwarf vets, what should I do now? Get my hands on a DSS recipe and park? Keep XPing? Shop/hunt for recipes? What's the best way for a brand new Artisan to spend his time?

And you all thought I'd never make it to 20 without twinking or handouts. :p

- Ash

p.s.

Brown Bears (Windmill Hill near Gludin) have the following drop stats:

Spoil: Animal Bone - 33%
Spoil: Recipe: Piece Bone Breastplate - 10%
Drop: Varnish - 20%
Drop: Coal - 2%

I killed lots of these mobs, and took a sampling of them personally.

[Lorak]

Hard to say. As the dwarf I have went scavenger. (I'm sorry to see you missed out on that fun quest).

I'd suggest getting all the base material recipies for now while your in elmore. Sadly no body has any idea what drops them anymore. But I know when I got into my 20's and finding that a recipie needed was in elmore from a level 10 mob stunk.

Good luck!
Lorak

[Splatter]

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I had some trouble getting to the Boogle Ratmen Leaders to collect their teeth, due to mob distribution in the Abandoned Coal Mines. You're required to cross one of two parallel, narrow wooden catwalks. Both sides of these catwalks are loaded with Akaste Bone Warlords (agro!). The catwalks are so close together that it doesn't matter which side you choose. You'll agro both sides. If you got lucky, you might be able to solo your way through them if you were packing a top NG weapon and used auto-SS. However, even that's not a sure thing because these bad boys have a shield stun. Very tough. I got through only because two other players happened to show up as I was trying to run this gauntlet.


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I know of the spot you talk about, but i've also found another spot that the boogle ratmen leaders spawn. So you dont have to run the gauntlet.

[Mizwisfist]

I'd have skipped Stun (more pvp / tank oriented) and taken weight limit - It's key to mass crafting of SS.

And you're right to talk about the distribution of mobs which isn't that good anymore for ckass quests. Other examples are Bishop or SE.

Gratz and lvl 20 and if you fell like it be prepared to spend long hours on your fat -_- making money by crafting. (hint : level a SE for recharges lolz)

Be sure you have all the lvl 1 recipes before you're too high. IE : Cokes spoil from a lvl 8... might be hard to get if you don't already have it.

[GaladronsBoy]

It's been a really long time since I was a level 20 Arty, but basically what people have been telling you is all still good. Hunt by day, craft at night.

Right now is a good time to have low-level (1-2) basic mat recipes, as most higher level Arties/WS have dropped them in favor of higher level recipes. On Kain the best place for low-level crafter to set up a craft shop is in Giran near Taurin. I use these crafters alot and wish more of them would set up shop because of their limited MP they can only craft a small percentage of what I'm looking for at a time.

As far as crafting other items, SS are always a good bet. I'm not sure about the market for other weps/equip at your level, but it stands to reason that you probably won't see any significan't profit for those items until u can do mid-high C Grade stuff.

So keep grinding away and don't forget to use your Level 1 Spoil. I've actually spoiled mobs on 10th Floor of TOI with mine. :p

Happy Hunting! :)

[AshNC]

I only have three recipes at the moment:

High Grade Suede
Synthetic Cokes
Varnish of Purity

Anyone know where I can get CBP, D-SS, or Braided Hemp Recipes?

- Ash

[DukeGaladrien]

I just started a dwarf yesterday and got CBP recipe in the newbie lands there. The garum werewolves drop 'em, 1%ish drop.

[Splatter]

Was this a normal drop or a spoiled drop?

[DukeGaladrien]

Pretty sure it was normal as I don't think I was lvl 10 at the time.

[Jute]

CBP spoils from the orc archers in the newbie dwarf area, but it's a rare spoil and you are too high for it now Ash. I started trying for it when they were just green and they were light blue before I got it.

[Jute]

Oh..and DSS are a spoil from the Ol' Mahum Reserves (I'm pretty sure those are the ones). They are near Partisan Hideaway.

[Mizwisfist]

The following list is from fan/support sites. It's pretty accurate but also incomplete and sometimes wrong.
But Heh, since the lack of Prima Guide that's what we all have to face. GL


Level 1 RCP list - MUST HAVE

BRAIDED HEMP
Sweep Skill Level Chance
goblin scout 8 2.2333%

COARSE BONE POWDER
Sweep Skill Level Chance
vrykolakas wolfkin 9 2.6673%


COKES
Dropped Level Chance
goblin brigand 8 1.34%
werewolf hunter 10 1.2787%

Sweep Skill Level Chance
kuruka ratman 8 2.2333%


LEATHER
Dropped Level Chance
langk lizardman sub leader 21 5.4792%
goblin brigand sub leader 10 2.2882%
uthanka pirate 7 1.8724%

Sweep Skill Level Chance
rakeclaw imp chieftain 10 5.7206%
orc warrior 10 5.7206%
kaboo orc 6 2.493%

STEEL
Dropped Level Chance
lennunt orc sniper 10 5.8501%
utuku orc archer 8 1.34%

Sweep Skill Level Chance
garum werewolf 9 2.6673%

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LVL2 MUST HAVE

SOULSHOTS D
Nightmare Weaver aggressive 1/283 21
Akaste Succubus Turen aggressive 1/1310 21
Hungry Eye passive 1/1236 22
Tumran Bugbear Warrior aggressive 1/1681 24

CORD
Dropped Level Chance
crocodile 25 2.5571%
orc betrayer picubo 20 1.9757%
erratica beast 18 1.8517%
hunter tarantula 16 1.737%

Sweep Skill Level Chance
Arachnid Tracker 19 3.1827%
langk lizardman warrior 17 2.9987%
Spoils
Ol Mahum Reserve passive 1/64 23

HIGH GRADE SUEDE
Dropped Level Chance
dre vanul 20 6.0258%
akaste bone warlord 17 1.7992%

Sweep Skill Level Chance
salamander ybar 19 9.7071%
tracker skeleton 17 2.9987%

SILVER MOLD
Dropped Level Chance
boogle ratman leader 18 1.8517%
dementia beast 17 1.7992%

Sweep Skill Level Chance
undine 17 9.1459%
undead slave 19 3.1827%

STEEL MOLD
Dropped Level Chance
whinstone golem 19 1.9096%
moonstone beast 17 1.7992%
ace skeleton marksman 20 1.3171%

Sweep Skill Level Chance
stink zombie 19 3.1827%
shade horror 17 2.9987%

SYNTHESIS COKES
Dropped Level Chance
akaste bone lord 19 1.9096%
kuruka ratman hunter 17 1.1995%

Sweep Skill Level Chance
whinstone golem 19 3.1827%
moonstone beast 17 2.9987%

VARNISH OF PURITY
Dropped Level Chance
mandragora sprout 20 1.9757%
pitchstone golem 19 1.9096%

Sweep Skill Level Chance
akaste bone lord 19 3.1827%
orc shaman 17 2.9987%