Independence Day Event

[AshNC]

I'm pleased to announce the arrival of our next NA exclusive event. You can read all about it here:

Independence Day (http://www.lineage2.com/archive/2005/07/independence_da.html)

We hope you enjoy it!

- Ash

[Cereth]

Heh the L1 version of the Diad aka Labastad Dark elf army, Sounds fun.

[Splatter]

I have one all power and engulfing word to define this event.........


W00t :eek:

[Maline]

I'm worried about the AFK shops. :o

But ... this sounds like a whole bucketload of fun! :D

[Lorak]

Can someone copy and paste this for those of us at work? Proxy won't let me get to the main site.

Lorak

[Cereth]

During King Amadeo’s reign over Aden, he appointed an advisor known throughout the land as Lord Dafstin. As time passed, the King became more reclusive, neglecting his royal duties. Without guidance from the crown, the Lords of Aden grew slovenly and reckless. The monstrous armies that were once scattered and weak began to grow, unchecked by the decadent nobility.

One of the King’s servants escaped the castle and warned of Dafstin's madness. He claimed that the King was completely beguiled by Dafstin’s duplicitous council. He also warned that Dafstin was organizing the Dark Armies in an attempt to overthrow Aden, and crown himself King.

His secret revealed, Dafstin has ordered his forces to strike before the people of Aden can muster their defenses. Now, legions of Orcs, Mahum, Lizardmen, and Undead are marching from their camps and assaulting the cities of Aden.

For a full week, from July 4th through July 11th, the forces of darkness will descend upon the villages and cities of Aden. Everyone must band together to defend their homes and their independence from Dafstin’s batallions.

[Lorak]

Many thanks!!
stars for you!
Lorak

[Cereth]

Np ^^

[PolasKasDorion]

Wow! Really looking forward to this event! Great idea guys!

[Darkmotion]

Greetings,

*punches Dafstin in the snout*

Welcome to Aden.

Capt. Steven Hiller: This was supposed to be my weekend off, but no. You got me out here dragging your heavy *** through the desert, with your dreadlocks sticking out the back of my parachute. You got to come down here with an attitude, acting all big and bad. And, what the Hell is that smell?!


Capt. Steven Hiller: You think they have any clue what's about to happen to them?
David Levinson: Not a chance in Hell.

Have Fun ! ™

BoardPK
Official Board Devil

[/ QUOTE ]

[toki98]

well this should be interesting to see how this plays out....


this is scary (http://www.nearlygood.com/files242074/nintendoacapella.wmv) ...

[Adeux]

Unless they are going to be dropping a god amount of exp or adena/ items, I will be busy grinding elsewhere.

[Reidmar]

Large-scale rewards or no, I think this will be a blast.

[Splatter]

Coward!!!! Take a stand and defend your homeland......

[Allwine]

[ QUOTE ]
Unless they are going to be dropping a god amount of exp or adena/ items, I will be busy grinding elsewhere.

[/ QUOTE ]

Im with you on this. having mobs in the city is NOT an event. :mad:

[Splatter]

YES it is.... The mobs are on the move.... It's a full blown war!!!!!

[Woodsman]

Whats more, it is the event we all have asked time and again. We wanted mobs invading the lands and now they are going to!

YESSSSS!!!!!!

I for one think this can be great.

[HammerThorn]

Ha its been done in Lineage 1 on a repeating basis in a couple of towns and several times as events. I think its awesome but the invasions have to be real. Not just 5 or 6 low level mobs twice a day.
Hammer

[Grim_Nuker]

yeah we had this event back in Halloween and it sucked
you just got the mass message "A GREAT EVIL MOVES CLOSER TO DION" etc and there we be like 3-4 dark blue mobs there with no special event type drops
so unless NCsoft plan on running MASS amounts of mobs through towns that actually drop decent stuff and XP for both HIGH and LOW lvls this event aint even worth it

[ForumHopper]

Man, aren't you guys ever happy with what NCSoft does? Good grief, at least they are doing something to entertain us. Stop complaining on here all the **** time and go play the game or something.

Good job NCSoft, glad to see something else developed to make things fun to take away from the usual xp grind.

[Kaldonius]

The halloween thing was kinda weird, I ran through Dion and I went behind some houses and saw 3 mobs just kinds sitting there...not even aggro...I was like wtf and 1 shotted them.

This one should be better, give NC some credit, at least we got an event.

[adoy_erica]

[ QUOTE ]
Unless they are going to be dropping a god amount of exp or adena/ items, I will be busy grinding elsewhere.

[/ QUOTE ]

thanks - you do that myself i will defend and get the soul bows that drop


lol j/k

why give up on an event before you even know the possible rewards

[FatesHand]

That's cool Ash. Thanks !!!!

-Fate

[SEPHIR0TH]

i cant wait for the slaughter,sharpen your blades and let the chaos begin.i think it will rock.i find it hard that theres ppl whinnin before the event even starts. :) yet theyll prob have the best time.i hope to see massive waves of mobs charging for the towns,the towns gates closed like in a siege would be cool and mobs breaking through. :eek:

[BKMiller]

The PR looks awesome. I hope the real event meets or exceeds expectations.

I hope it gets as wild and woolly as Chaos Week did on the PTS. Now that was an event!

[JoeInsane]

[ QUOTE ]
The PR looks awesome. I hope the real event meets or exceeds expectations.

I hope it gets as wild and woolly as Chaos Week did on the PTS. Now that was an event!

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah Gm's should spawn as npc's fighting real players in town all the time, that would be awesome.

[Badger49]

It sounds like it could be loads of fun! :)

Now if they have siege engines an tear holes in the city walls to pour in from there in mass numbers...

Would be fun if they would be out there for blood, killing the NPCs; if players don't defend their traders - no service for a day! Hah! :D

Namárië
Badger[49]

[PacificaCasull]

ok I am going to wait all day at Giran. Hopefully the mobs killed the AFK farmer shops and drop the items they selling. I just go and pick it up. YEAH!!!!!

[etheralassasian]

hell ya im with u pacifica

[KND]

The question is...
What levels are these mobs? Will us new players drop stuffs when we die? because i am sure there will be lots of scammers and scums out there waiting around to pick up stuffs from helpless new players.... when they died and dropped them.... BAD IDEA

[Splatter]

[ QUOTE ]
The question is...
What levels are these mobs? Will us new players drop stuffs when we die? because i am sure there will be lots of scammers and scums out there waiting around to pick up stuffs from helpless new players.... when they died and dropped them.... BAD IDEA

[/ QUOTE ]


#1. What level will the mobs be at?

# Who knows, we will find out tomorrow.

#2. But if players die, they will drop stuff. This is unfair.

# It has been like this all the time.... The only fear would be the afk shops, and i say so? It's always good to shake things up a bit.

[HammerThorn]

Still nothing

[Allwine]

nice event. NOT! :confused:

[enusha]

this event is boring, Ive been waiting an hour to kill ONE and it still hasnt spawned.

It seems to me that the best event are the ones NC NA copies from korea. How bout we just stick to doing that from now on?

Wouldnt be so bad if the mob spawn once an hour or sumthing but geeze been waiting way to long now!

[Monstrosity]

This event has been truly awful, complete and utter shite..

Who in there right minds over at NC software would even BEGIN to think that a lv 40 or lower raid boss would EVER get killed when spawned such as this?

All it takes to mess eveything up is ONE hit from a player that is to high lvd, then its just to start over..

Wow, you must have really thought long and hard for this one >_>

[etheralassasian]

wow cant belive u guys hate this event i love it on erica i was in 3 raids first one was in gludin we killed the boss there was like 20 lvls 20-30 killing second was in dion took a lil longer had some 30+ there and then in giran killed that one had so many people help out so far from day one adn the drops ive goten and sold ive made 3.5million adena so dont tell me this is a bad event it rocks


btw anyone know when the bosses respawn i wanna kill some more

[Brigette1212]

This event is so SICK. Ive made over 4 mil today alone on drops. +++ Alliance chat, always know where stuff is.

[enusha]

mabey on your servers there arent many idiot high lvls attacking dark blue raid bosses like on bartz, and mabey you guys dont have to camp were they spawn for 3 hours so the other clans wont take it first.

But on Bartz if you dont stay were the mob spawns until it spawns(god knows when) the other clans will take it.

Good events are the ones were you dont absolutly HAVE to have a full party to do it, and If you do need a full party there should be lots of them not just one every 5 hours or so.

[nazhady]

[ QUOTE ]
Good events are the ones were you dont absolutly HAVE to have a full party to do it, and If you do need a full party there should be lots of them not just one every 5 hours or so.

[/ QUOTE ]

Amen.

[Arez]

your lucky cos on teon server ur lucky if u see 1 boss every 24 hours. cos ive been waiting here for ages now over 6 hours i think and not seen 1

[huxley]

[ QUOTE ]
This event has been truly awful, complete and utter shite..

Who in there right minds over at NC software would even BEGIN to think that a lv 40 or lower raid boss would EVER get killed when spawned such as this?

All it takes to mess eveything up is ONE hit from a player that is to high lvd, then its just to start over..

Wow, you must have really thought long and hard for this one >_>

[/ QUOTE ]wtf are you insane! Most of the new characters are rerolls and are ready to take out a mob. Hell, i am lvl 43 and we took otu the raid boss outside giran like no tomorrow and it was a blast and i walked with twho c weapon enchants! This is one of my favorite events they ever had.

[huxley]

Now i have heard rumors of people healing the raid boss so people fromt heir clan can show up to get the drops. Every event cants just be about fun and luck. People always have to exploit and ruin the whole game. Who are you ******** who do this type of stuff? You should go f' off you pieces of crap

[Chryzaor]

Purple healers with loads of archers/nukers/DDers around usually don't have much time to run ;)

[Heatheren]

This event is the best event so far. GET IN THERE AND FIGHT!!!

As for Purples one thing to say PvP+++++++ weeeeeeeeeee

Kill the invaders, take up arms, do your part!

[Tokara]

town= safe zone= no kill any purples 0.o

[Physcomatrix]

Hey I just fought my second boss in Dion and I am having a blast. Gotten lots of good stuff and im a happy sponge. :) I wasnt around for the halloween event (i have kids) but I think this is fun, gets everyone together. Hope to see you all around. Anyone have a schedule on these things yet??? what town what time??

[Monstrosity]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This event has been truly awful, complete and utter shite..

Who in there right minds over at NC software would even BEGIN to think that a lv 40 or lower raid boss would EVER get killed when spawned such as this?

All it takes to mess eveything up is ONE hit from a player that is to high lvd, then its just to start over..

Wow, you must have really thought long and hard for this one >_>

[/ QUOTE ]wtf are you insane! Most of the new characters are rerolls and are ready to take out a mob. Hell, i am lvl 43 and we took otu the raid boss outside giran like no tomorrow and it was a blast and i walked with twho c weapon enchants! This is one of my favorite events they ever had.

[/ QUOTE ]

WTF are YOU insane?
So a good event is when YOU have a good time, and when the event is made so that none of the NEW players can actually do anything in the event!?

A good event is not an event where 1 out of 100 people get a good time, and the other 99 gets a bad taste left in there mouths from hearing all the good stuff that person got..

[Emali]

Personally i love the idea now i was only on for a bit last night and thismorning and didnt hear crap about it but ill be out to make sure im part of it tonight.

[Adeux]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This event has been truly awful, complete and utter shite..

Who in there right minds over at NC software would even BEGIN to think that a lv 40 or lower raid boss would EVER get killed when spawned such as this?

All it takes to mess eveything up is ONE hit from a player that is to high lvd, then its just to start over..

Wow, you must have really thought long and hard for this one >_>

[/ QUOTE ]wtf are you insane! Most of the new characters are rerolls and are ready to take out a mob. Hell, i am lvl 43 and we took otu the raid boss outside giran like no tomorrow and it was a blast and i walked with twho c weapon enchants! This is one of my favorite events they ever had.

[/ QUOTE ]

WTF are YOU insane?
So a good event is when YOU have a good time, and when the event is made so that none of the NEW players can actually do anything in the event!?

A good event is not an event where 1 out of 100 people get a good time, and the other 99 gets a bad taste left in there mouths from hearing all the good stuff that person got..

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm in the same boat. Here I am working hard for gears, and here are people like you coming in and exploiting the system in order to benefit you the most. That just [censored] ****** me off.

[Reidmar]

This even is a blast! Raid after raid after raid, I can't think of many times I've ever had so much fun in L2. I've been hopping around through my alts trying to get as much raid action as possible.

It's so fun to see the entire server band together like this.

I have witnessed the low end Gludio raids and the high end Aden raids; I have participated in the mid range Dion, Giran, and Heine raids. It was fun to see new players in low D gear come together to take down the Gludio boss. It was fun seeing the entire high-level population kill the Aden boss. And of course, it was fun to participate in the others. :)

I'm glad this goes on all week. Great job guys!

[nurama2themax]

see im busy dureing the day so i cant fight cant find them my graph card dont work and im pore(im only 13) and im lvl 13 i cant fight at lvl 13 its NOT for all lvls

[Chryzaor]

Great event... Doom Blade Tanatos is tough ! He's perma red for a while :D

[Richman]

Please say that the mobs will appear at night. I am on anywhere between 10PM-12:30AM PST and I hope to see a mob and get some drops then.

[1ns0mn1ac]

This event is great.

Good job Ash and the Gang. :)

I was hopping 3 towns(Oren, Aden,Heine) last night(6-9PM PST), from one raid to another. It was a blast. Can't wait for tonight. :)

Oren's Raid boss was a bit tougher compared to Aden's and Heine's.

[1ns0mn1ac]

[ QUOTE ]
Please say that the mobs will appear at night. I am on anywhere between 10PM-12:30AM PST and I hope to see a mob and get some drops then.

[/ QUOTE ]

Raid Mobs are available somewhere between 6-9PM PST.

Aww Rich, solution to your problem. Call in sick or tell your Boss you need to be in one of the raids in L2. :)

I really hope you can make it on one of the raids because it is really fun. You're missing all the fun.

[Felicty]

This event is a blast! I've never had so much fun dying multiple times in my life; and I've only done one raid in one town. The best part is, when the mobs are done, the lower levels get to tackle the raid boss. The people are cool as well. To make sure the farmers don't run off with gear that is dropped, as characters inevitably die, perfect strangers will pick up the gear and meet you in town to give it back. This is what the game is all about. Great fun! I'll be back tonight hanging at Giran's North Gate!

FelictyEtrogen, BountyHunter Extrodinaire

FYI: If you see a Tank Named PT on Bartz, give him a rec. He was one of the cool ones returning gear to the recently departed last night. :D

[SlyCutter]

problem we recently had on Devianne is the top alliance on the server feels that since this is a pvp game if you cant fight them then stay away from the Aden spawns of raid bosses because they will kill you if get near.

That is shameful that anyone wants to ruin an even that is intended towards the whole community and not just because we cant pvp you, if this was a meant to be a pvp then it would be i love when people find every excuse in the book to try to force pvp from people that want to just have fun :(

[GreatnessElite]

THIS IS AMAZING!! Though, once we were taking one down but server crashed(we had it at half health too!!!! :(. I have gotten 10 dyes of wit, 10 dyes of dexerity, 2 scroll:enchant weapon d grade, compressed d-grade ss. And I have killed one minion thing(it was like a big train thing that people were killing, and I just came and one started attacking and I killed it, and got the two d-grade enchant weapon) near Gludio and a boss monster(in Gludin). THANK YOU!!!

[uNDeRPaNTS_GNoMe]

you should see kain.... total gankfest if you even attempt to kill a boss..... what a fun wrecker. :(

[Splatter]

I wouldn't know... I've been waiting at the orc starting town since monday, and have not seen any action yet.


**Edit**

Has anyone seen any legions of Orcs, Mahum, Lizardmen, and Undead marching from their camps yet?

[Adeux]

(Constructive criticism is welcome, but this post was just a rant. - Ash)

[AshNC]

Remember that if time conflicts prevent you from being online during the week, this event runs all weekend as well.

I'm going to take screenshots of the baddies near Orc village, just for you, Splatter. :p

- Ash

[Darkmotion]

Greetings,

[ QUOTE ]
Please say that the mobs will appear at night. I am on anywhere between 10PM-12:30AM PST and I hope to see a mob and get some drops then.

[/ QUOTE ]

If you want to get some loot, you better ninja gank the raid bosses. They got nice loot, but I didn't get the chance to get anything. Archers must be crying.

Ninja gank : Verb. Hiding under your target's dress, so they can't see you.

Tonight, I'll be your naughty girl,
I'm calling all the girls, we gonna tank this party uh-huh.
I know you want my body.

*Waves to Stabby*

I got your warm greetings from the Aahx.

Have Fun ! ™

BoardPK
Official Board Devil

[/ QUOTE ]

[Adeux]

4pm and 10 pm seems to work for me.

And yes... that was an angry rant. It couldn't have been criticism, as someone is gaining from it afterall, but I am just ****** that after all the effort spent, it's never me.

[TopSide]

Have a tissue.

[AshNC]

[ QUOTE ]
4pm and 10 pm seems to work for me.

And yes... that was an angry rant. It couldn't have been criticism, as someone is gaining from it afterall, but I am just ****** that after all the effort spent, it's never me.

[/ QUOTE ]

Fair enough. So let's say that we were to do a similar event model again. Any suggestions on how to avoid the situation you described?

- Ash

[Adeux]

There is no way to prevent it. It would be absurd if it was expected that the highest dealing group would take all of the drops because of an extended claiming time.

However, one thing that would bolster the legitamate fighters chance of claiming a prize is if non participants had to wait longer then normal to pick raid items up, and that ones who where too high, or too low to be automatically paralized when they get within range instead of when they attack/ heal.

[Splatter]

[ QUOTE ]

Fair enough. So let's say that we were to do a similar event model again. Any suggestions on how to avoid the situation you described?

- Ash

[/ QUOTE ]

Lets use this event as a copy.

Day one:

On day one an "Event Npc" is placed in each town so anyone can see what the current status of the event is at.

[ QUOTE ]
example: Event NPC The lizardmen forces have been spotted moving from dion.

[/ QUOTE ]

This would build excitement.

Day two:

Encampment flags just like siege flags are put up. These flags can not be damged or taken down.

Day three:

Rogue ratmen, lizardmen, and orcs scouts are seen in town. These scouts are passive and wont attack unless attacked first.

Day four:

Legions of Orcs, Mahum, Lizardmen, and Undead start to amass at the camps all passive unless attacked first.

Day five:

Raid bosses show up at these camps.

Day six:
All the legions of Orcs, Mahum, Lizardmen, and Undead turn to aggressive and start to move to the towns. People head out to ingauge the forces. The respawn rates are set high and are tied to the camp flags, the flags are set so they can take damge. People need to beat back the mobs to get to the flags. The raid bosses are there to defend the flags.

Day seven
The battle still rages on for two days....Day six and seven

[BKMiller]

There ya go, Ash! Splatter has just described a perfect invasion event that can take place at every city and village, run 24/7, not overload the economy, and provide an exciting break from normal gameplay.

Perfect, Splatter! This is very close to what I was actually expecting. :(

Maybe next time! :D

[uNDeRPaNTS_GNoMe]

oooooooooooooooooooh... nicely done splatter!!!

[Splatter]

And to further add.... Players like myself the 20 to 30ish range we would be the once fighting the oncoming forces. While all the higher level players and castle type clans go after the raid bosses that are guarding the spawn flags.

[Box_of_Fox]

I like Splatter's idea.

This might also change things a bit...

Common on Gustin server: Everyone trying to kill the event mob pulls it into the arena. Then, right when it has only a little health left, only the melee people continue to attack it as everyone groups close to get a grab. Why not have the drops spread out, so that everyone does not bunch close?

Furthermore, when in the arena, all the high level mages and orc mystics do these annoying AOE spells when all the drops are gone, killing everyone who is actually the appropriate level to kill the mob. Really annoying :cool:...

[Splatter]

I'm not sure my idea of an event would included any drops as i'm not sure how to fit anything like that into the event.

My idea of the event was just that a simple event.

[Reidmar]

Splatter, your idea seems like it would be a blast.

However, keep in mind the logistical limitations involved. Even something as simple as putting encampment (siege) flags outside of a siege situation would be more trouble than its worth to implement. I know it sounds trivial, but it seems like it would need to be hardcoded into the game. Our clients [probably] don't understand an encampment flag outside a siege situation.

Many people have complained that the current event doesn't have the epic feel it was cracked up to have: mobs don't attack cities, they just spawn outside the walls and sit there!

Well guess what, the NA developers couldn't exactly spend months developing a new NPC AI and patching it into the game just for seven days of events. What they could do, however, was spawn mobs outside of towns and tweak their drops. The drops would be so outstanding, that friends, strangers, enemies, and allies would band together just to defeat these mobs.

There are limitations. Just be sure to ask yourself whether your event ideas would require recoding the game itself, or if it would be feasible to implement with the server-side functions already available.

This event is a great example of utilizing limited resources for optimal enjoyment. Tonight I had a blast. I started out in Gludio, ready to 1-shot dark blue mobs for some D weapon scrolls. A GM quickly disconnected me so that low level characters would have their chance, which I thought was a fair move. I then moved to Dion and Heine, trying to get a chance at the armies before the raid bosses spawned, but was unlucky at both locations. I then reported to Giran and joined up with my alliance. We somehow managed to pull together an unbeatable DD group. I laughed hard every time me or the other in-party Sorc pulled aggro, because we seemed to do so very easily. I died several times, and forget my lucky charms. I didn't lose anything important, however. Sure enough, our group did the most damage and we got tons of loot. It was a blast to see what must have been one hundred players zerging one mob.

I then went to Heine to find a lonely raid boss on the bridge. Our numbers were low, but we attempted a kill anyway. The strategy was hilarious. The sorcs did so much damage that we had to accept our fate of having aggro. So we just ran around in circles for what turned out to be an hour. Again, we got the loot and called it a night.

So much fun.

[Soipha]

I also agree with the idea of Splatter, i think that somes mobs "camped" outside the cities waiting to be carnaged isn´t really an event.

Where is the invasion? i like the idea of lots, really LOTS of mobs atacking any cities, if i can´t put private store 1 week cuz the mobs are atacking the cities i will 1 week without put it, where is the problem? world is being invaded, and anyway ever i can don´t logg inn during 1 week if i don´t like these event, or only camp around far from cities during these week.

Ash and Nc boys, u also had played to any game, just think what is the really idea for an event, just having tons of drops? just that? take more money? the reward is cool, but change for a days the game routine also is.

Enjoy!

[Splatter]

[ QUOTE ]
i think that somes mobs "camped" outside the cities waiting to be carnaged isn´t really an event.

[/ QUOTE ]

:confused:.... Didn't you even read my post? The invasion happens on day six of the event!

Go back to my post and ReRead it....

[Darkmotion]

Greetings,

[ QUOTE ]

Go back to my post and ReRead it....

[/ QUOTE ]

YEAH !

Great model there Splatter.

Orc Intel 4TW.

Have Fun ! ™

BoardPK
Official Board Devil

[/ QUOTE ]

[uNDeRPaNTS_GNoMe]

clearly orcs are the more intelligent race......

[Tokara]

and the most stubborn race...

[federwin]

So this weekend is going to be a crazy mob fest?? yay! I'm seriously excited if that's the case.

I got lucky and found masses of mobs when no one was around, so I got some good drops. Now I might be able to afford my Doom Plate Armor... maybe. Darn thing sells for 12 mil unenchanted on Erica. ><

[Chryzaor]

After each day :

- More mobs
- Higher lvl (lvl 74 Orc Sniper x 20 / 3600 HP = ouch)
- Mobs now respawn
- Random raid boss, we had Korim yesterday, pretty easy

Means more drop :)

So far, 3 EAC, 2 EAB (dropped 1), 1 EWC, 1 EWB, 10 B shots pack, 6 C shots pack.

[Aroxx]

When will the raid happen? Wait at south gate of Gludio around 1hr (1:00am-2:00am). Nothing happened.

The event should have a schedule. It's not fair to we casual players. I can not spend all day in front of my computer. :(

[Reidmar]

[ QUOTE ]
:confused:.... Didn't you even read my post?

[/ QUOTE ]

Hmm, I get that feeling sometimes too.

Maybe

I

Should

Be

More

ADD

Friendly.

[huxley]

[ QUOTE ]
Splatter, your idea seems like it would be a blast.

However, keep in mind the logistical limitations involved. Even something as simple as putting encampment (siege) flags outside of a siege situation would be more trouble than its worth to implement. I know it sounds trivial, but it seems like it would need to be hardcoded into the game. Our clients [probably] don't understand an encampment flag outside a siege situation.

Many people have complained that the current event doesn't have the epic feel it was cracked up to have: mobs don't attack cities, they just spawn outside the walls and sit there!

Well guess what, the NA developers couldn't exactly spend months developing a new NPC AI and patching it into the game just for seven days of events. What they could do, however, was spawn mobs outside of towns and tweak their drops. The drops would be so outstanding, that friends, strangers, enemies, and allies would band together just to defeat these mobs.

There are limitations. Just be sure to ask yourself whether your event ideas would require recoding the game itself, or if it would be feasible to implement with the server-side functions already available.

This event is a great example of utilizing limited resources for optimal enjoyment. Tonight I had a blast. I started out in Gludio, ready to 1-shot dark blue mobs for some D weapon scrolls. A GM quickly disconnected me so that low level characters would have their chance, which I thought was a fair move. I then moved to Dion and Heine, trying to get a chance at the armies before the raid bosses spawned, but was unlucky at both locations. I then reported to Giran and joined up with my alliance. We somehow managed to pull together an unbeatable DD group. I laughed hard every time me or the other in-party Sorc pulled aggro, because we seemed to do so very easily. I died several times, and forget my lucky charms. I didn't lose anything important, however. Sure enough, our group did the most damage and we got tons of loot. It was a blast to see what must have been one hundred players zerging one mob.

I then went to Heine to find a lonely raid boss on the bridge. Our numbers were low, but we attempted a kill anyway. The strategy was hilarious. The sorcs did so much damage that we had to accept our fate of having aggro. So we just ran around in circles for what turned out to be an hour. Again, we got the loot and called it a night.

So much fun.

[/ QUOTE ]hah, i was at that heine one too...with his blasted mass paralyze we had no chance.

[AshNC]

Ever the diplomat, I'm going to say that there is merit to both Reidmar's and Splatter's post. To be more precise, both of them are useful (see signature).

We have to recognize our limitations, because the most sure-fire way to drop the ball is to shoot for something far beyond what's feasible, and come up with nothing. Goals must be realistic to be achieved. On the other hand, it never hurts to think as big as possible. Just taking time to dream up ideal scenarios doesn't cost a cent. You have to have something to shoot for and work toward in the long run. And you might find tricks and workaround within available limitations to do something you had hitherto thought impossible.

- Ash

[Bighands]

[ QUOTE ]
Ever the diplomat, I'm going to say that there is merit to both Reidmar's and Splatter's post. To be more precise, both of them are useful (see signature).

We have to recognize our limitations, because the most sure-fire way to drop the ball is to shoot for something far beyond what's feasible, and come up with nothing. Goals must be realistic to be achieved. On the other hand, it never hurts to think as big as possible. Just taking time to dream up ideal scenarios doesn't cost a cent. You have to have something to shoot for and work toward in the long run. And you might find tricks and workaround within available limitations to do something you had hitherto thought impossible.

- Ash

[/ QUOTE ]

Possible Translation:
We've only ever done one event similar to this in the past and it was nearly a year ago. We got some new tools for doing this sort of thing just a few months ago and we did some testing on the test server and it looked good, but we're not sure what the limitations on the production servers will be. Therefore we figured we would start small and scale up as the week goes on, we'd prefer not to crash the server.

If it were up to us, we'd spawn a true army of mobs, thousands and thousands that continously invade and raze the towns while taking out every single private shop in all of Aden, but we have to work within the limitations of the hardware and software available.

**I think I got somewhat close on that. lol**

[genz44]

I have three little suggestions for this event.

1. If possible, increase the drop radius of the bosses. Lots of losers like to stand practically on the boss and just wait for it to die. They get the loot at their feet and those of us who did the work are spamming the pick-up button only to read, "Failed to pick up weapon enchant" "Failed to pick up armor enchant" "Failed to pick up greater compressed ss package" "Picked up 1 adena". You get the idea.

2. Increase the spawn rate and give at least one announcement as to when the respawn will occur. I waited 5 hours outside Gludin yesterday and 2 hours today. Everybody just keeps saying soon and when you decide to leave, you miss it.

3. Try spawning groups like the ones on the first day. I found the easiest at Gludin, which my 24 knight could handle. The next, at Gludio, was a little more challenging with higher skeletons. The last I attended was at Dion with a wicked demon. Very difficult for me, but do-able with all of the people there. The past couple of times there have been skeletons spawning outside Gludin. Nice to look at, but my 25 knight got ripped apart. I died 3 times and was only permitted by the game to pick up a pack of compressed sps after the boss died.

[Splatter]

I just want to know one thing where are the "legions of Orcs, Mahum, Lizardmen, and Undead"?

Has anyone seen any thing like that?

[Adeux]

Today was a much better turn out for me.

Me ( spellhowler ), two other spellhowlers, and a shillen elder made a pact of greed today. We waited in place for nearly two hours for the lvl 5x monsters to spawn. It worked out beautifully. Not only did we kill all of the minions, but we where also the heaviest hitters to the raid boss. All of the drops went to us, and us alone. We each made 8-10m off of it, and we plan on doing again. Although I still think the current system holds an unfair advantage to the willing, I did get a peice of it, and I am happy this time around. Makes the cost of teleporting, exp, bsps, and all of my cursed bones worth while. Thanks for the event. It was a good morale booster.

On a side note, I did find it interesting that a group of 3 buffed up spellhowlers could do so much damage to the boss. 3x SHs with 1.5k mana doing 500 damage a every hit of deathspike for 28 mana a pop ( around 1500 damage to the raidboss per second ) to a level 5x was incredible output. And the 100k exp each wasn't bad either.


@Splatter: I counted on the legions of undead for todays romp. You just have to get to them before greedy people like me do. They have an extremely high drop rate, and the smarter ones pick them off without a word to the public. I myself didn't know about it until I was approaced by the group leader who made this plan we used in the first place.

[Elrohir]

I don't know if I'd call it "legions" but I did see a crapload of Giant Ants and Cathroks(?) outside of Dion before the Boss showed up.

[Splatter]

It just makes me mad... I spent a good amount of the day ingame around the orc town from monday to wednesday and didn't see a thing.

I had to end up going out of town today "thursday" so i missed most of my game time and to top it off i wont be able to check this friday, sat, or sunday because of work.

:(

[Soipha]

Splatter , sure i was read ur post, and ur idea is very cool, maibe was some confusion, i was refering to the actual nc event, :p, where "the legions of lizardmens, orks...bla,bla,bla" are just that, some respawns camped at the entrances from the cities.

Mmm, yesterday i was waiting at giran entrance and none mob spawned at the habitual hour, the respwn time re changed? re random hours now? :eek:

[Reidmar]

It appears that the spawn times have always been a bit random.

But there's pattern to how it works, and I think the spawn times stay within a given time frame.

[cristalina]

some suggestions:

1)Is it possible for Teon server, to spawn to event mobs on euro-friendly times?

2)The raid bosses petrify players that are too high level. Can the normal event mobs do the same plz? Now the regular mob armies are wiped out by high level players in 7 seconds.

3)Can the mobs spawn a little more? I dont want to wait 10 hours and see no mobs at all. Thats not really an event, is it?

[Chryzaor]

Doh... Waited 3 hours yesterday, was about to leave because it was 5 a.m., then mobs spawned... Of course buffer wasn't on anymore, and we lost buffs 2 minutes before spawn... :)

Bah there will be other raids. I need more enchant weapon B :D

[Splatter]

[ QUOTE ]
We have to recognize our limitations

[/ QUOTE ]

Can you share with us the players what those limitations are?


[ QUOTE ]
because the most sure-fire way to drop the ball is to shoot for something far beyond what's feasible, and come up with nothing

[/ QUOTE ]

Well that just happened in this event, nothing happened. If you read the story line for the event and compare it to it.... Nothing happened....

No dark armies
No legions of Orcs, Mahum, Lizardmen, and Undead are marching

[1ns0mn1ac]

[ QUOTE ]
I have three little suggestions for this event.

1. If possible, increase the drop radius of the bosses. Lots of losers like to stand practically on the boss and just wait for it to die. They get the loot at their feet and those of us who did the work are spamming the pick-up button only to read, "Failed to pick up weapon enchant" "Failed to pick up armor enchant" "Failed to pick up greater compressed ss package" "Picked up 1 adena". You get the idea.


[/ QUOTE ]

You know what's funny last night in Aden's Raid, lots of lowbie ambulance chasers(just standing in the frontline and not doing anything) got pwned(1 shotted by the magic user raid boss) last night. I myself on the frontline spamming BSS, got 2ked twice of damages, 3rd blast=instant death. Bah, looks like top B Armor/Jewelries don't do squat. Lol. But I noticed that raid bosses are getting harder and harder, and their attacks are getting deadlier and deadlier.

Other than that, it was still fun eventhough I did not get anything from the raids.

[1ns0mn1ac]

Hey Ash, is it possible that this event be permanent but on weekend basis only, no weekdays?

[Ardeur]

For my part, this has been an excellent event. Could there be a better event? Yes. Does that mean this one isn't good? No.

It has been great doing this event, and it has shown my clan/alliance what it takes to take down a raid boss. It was a nice intro to that and I'm sure that we'll be taking down some regular ones in the future.

GREAT EVENT!!!

Things I would like to see:

#1: Simultaneous & spread out spawns. This would make it so that nobody could take all of the spawns just for themselves. Perhaps you could litterally surround the city. This gives everyone a chance to get some good drops and stops one person/group from getting them all. Also probably less hurt feelings about being 'cheated' by other players, that in their frustration, eventually gets turned to the developers.

#2: A server wide 5 minute warning that they are about to hit. That way, everyone has time to SoE & Teleport to the appropriate city to participate. This way you don't have to sit there for an hour or more for them to spawn.

#3: The clever monsters attack the cities all at once. This way the lower lvl players aren't as likely to have to compete with the high lvl players, as each player will likely want to get the best drops, so they will be on their highest lvl character at the highest lvl town they can handle. (Most effective if used with #1, so that they actually believe they will get something, so there isn't a reason to just gank the lower level city's mobs).

#4: This one I'm not sure about, but it is a thought. Instead of having a fixed number of mobs come, have an automatically refilling spawn (so 1 dies, 1 spawns immediately...best used with #1), and limit it to a specific time period (constant spawning for 10-20 mins or something). You'd probably need floating or randomly placed spawn points so that nobody can just camp the spawn point. This would also give you the limitless horde feel without having to have 1000 mobs instanced at once.

Just my 2 cents.

GREAT EVENT tho!!!!!

This is the first one that I have really felt that my efforts have really paid off well. (the letter thing was cool too, just never got anything but might, etc...scrolls. Cool, just not as cool).

Thanks

Oh, one last thing: #5: Anything not killed at the end of the 10-20 Minutes immeadiately heads into the city to kill the NPC'S!!!!! That way, if the defense of the town fails, then the players can't use the teleporter (possibly use the 'siege' teleporter coding) or weapon shop because the NPC is dead. They could respawn in say an hour or so. This way there are actual but not devastating consequences to not defending the cities well.

[Splatter]

Your kidding me right? We haven't had an event yet. And if you consider the raid bosses an event, i'll gladly debate the fact with you that those bosses are not part of the Independence Day Event.

The event was clearly spelled out on the front page and no place did it mention anything about raid bosses.

As far as i'm concered, we never had an event. Because nothing that was stated on the front page of the site ever happened.

[CelaarSiran]

I think, this event was the worst one ever. Some higlevel monsters placed in front of the cities with a weird story are not really an event. I did the best what i can do with them. I ignored it completely. But, I regret the countless players, who, while they operated their AfK-shops, died, and lost some of their money or items.
The easter event and the anniversary event were really nice.
This one however was completely unimaginative, and pure chicanery for players while running their shops overnight.
Lineage 2 has a really bad buy and sell system between players. They must run their computer all the time, and must be present in the game. (What for an energy waste!) Other games have better solutions.
But we have only this bad solution. So at least the player must be sure to be safe in the cities.


(English is not my native language. Please excuse some failings.)

[Adeux]

[ QUOTE ]

As far as i'm concered, we never had an event. Because nothing that was stated on the front page of the site ever happened.

[/ QUOTE ]

The only thing I saw that didn't happen was the Ol Mahum gnolls. Everything else ( and then some ) I have witnessed.

[BKMiller]

Well, I finally got in on some of the action. Mostly in Gludin. Tried the ones in Dion, killed one, but man oh man that bug is brutal! In half an hour of battle I spent 25 minutes paralyzed!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D It was hilarious!

Net total for the day:

Lost one Hard Leather Helmet
Gained 2 D-Weapon Enchant scrolls, 1 D-Armor Enchant scroll, and 5 L2Day Empower scrolls.

Not to mention four hours of non-stop fun!

A great event, but next time take some big risks and have the mobs charge into town creating mayhem! :D

Edit: Forgot to mention, I also lost a level, but was having so much fun I didn't even notice until right before I went to log out! Oh, yeah! Now that's the kind of experience I play online games for!

[Splatter]

Well i finally found and faced my Legion (http://frontiernet.net/~gurgor/Shot00023.jpg)

Only took six days of waiting.

[BKMiller]

[ QUOTE ]
Well i finally found and faced my Legion (http://frontiernet.net/~gurgor/Shot00023.jpg)

Only took six days of waiting.

[/ QUOTE ]

lol

Beautiful shot! Love the dialogue! :D

[Kaldonius]

Ive made about 10million off this event, im loving it!
2 B weapon Enchants, like 20 D armors, 10 C armors, 5 C weapons, 25 B rezzes, 20 B SOE...and a buncha SS, also thats what I sold, I used another 4 C weapon enchants to OE my Homunkulus sword and it worked :)
<3 this event!

[bowdy]

[ QUOTE ]
I think, this event was the worst one ever. Some higlevel monsters placed in front of the cities with a weird story are not really an event. I did the best what i can do with them. I ignored it completely. But, I regret the countless players, who, while they operated their AfK-shops, died, and lost some of their money or items.
The easter event and the anniversary event were really nice.
This one however was completely unimaginative, and pure chicanery for players while running their shops overnight.
Lineage 2 has a really bad buy and sell system between players. They must run their computer all the time, and must be present in the game. (What for an energy waste!) Other games have better solutions.
But we have only this bad solution. So at least the player must be sure to be safe in the cities.


(English is not my native language. Please excuse some failings.)

[/ QUOTE ]

exactly I lost 30 mil because some mob killed my afk-shop

[Ghealle]

lots of people lost equipment or deleved to a previous grade because mobs attacked vendor stores. :( I think NCsoft made a big mistake to kill people that where in save zones. Most people on the Teon server are living in Europe in our time zone the attack came at 3:30 AM. I wonder how the plan on kill AFK people next :)

[Adeux]

You're lucky splatter. If you would have killed those you could have made several million, and you would have no competition.

[Ganeda]

I also have a problem with this event. I was minding my own business, walking down the hill from Oren when I got attacked by a bunch of mobs hell bent on killing me. Not only did I get killed by mobs I did not have any desire to fight, which, by the way, were RED to me, I dropped my Full Plate Shield. Then a jerk named Meowzzz stole it from me.
Why, oh why, are we being attacked by things WAY out of our league, then set up to drop main gear?? I would not have minded dropping anything in my backpack, that is why i keep it full of crap, but dropping my main gear, when I am WEARING it is enough to make me wonder why I play this game. I got into this game during closed beta, and now I am on the verge of quitting. This is ridiculous, and don't say "It's part of the game" because that is a great big load. There is no reason we should be dropping stuff we work sooo hard to get. There is no reason we should be programmed to lose things we are equipped with. You are the writers, you should fix this. It is NOT FAIR.
We play this game for fun and relaxation, there is nothing fun about being attacked for no reason and having your stuff stolen. :(

[Splatter]

[ QUOTE ]
You're lucky splatter. If you would have killed those you could have made several million, and you would have no competition.

[/ QUOTE ]

Holy gods of paagrio....

I checked when i made my first post 930 pm and figured i'd log on at 9 pm just in case.... No sooner did i walk over to the gate did the skellys start to appear again. I was buffed up and not taking a whole bunch of damage till them archers joined in wow can they pack a punch...

Munched on the dirt again... This time i made it back as a high level destroyer was working on the skells, so i went to finish the 5ish horror left....

I picked up my booty and started to head back to town when the orc started pitching loot overboard, he must have been overweight...

The first one is from what i got, the second is the booty i got from the destroyer.

My Booty (http://frontiernet.net/~gurgor/Shot00024.jpg)

Gained Booty (http://frontiernet.net/~gurgor/Shot00025.jpg)

[Splatter]

Now folks.... This IS the EVENT... Not the raid bosses, everyones has been talking about the past few days.... But the LEGIONS.

[Adeux]

Awe.... its a shame they only dropped no grade stuff. Had they been D grade.. you would have had oodles of enchantments to yourself.

[Splatter]

Tell me about it. I figure what loot is dropped varys by region. But i'm happy with what i've gotten so far. But after seeing what that destroyer can do, i wish us monks had some sort of AOE skills.

[Balis]

Here is my grade of this event.

Summary:
Loot: Great Drops, lots of variety! A+
Accessibility: Fair D-, but after announcements (extra credit) C+
Accessibility for each level: Every level had a chance at this event. B+
Story: Love how it all tied together. B+
Fun Factor: Once I was able to participate, very fun! B+
Risk/Reward: Dropped equipment worried me, but the loot was worth the risk. B
Overall Score: B+ Well planned out event!


That’s my 2 adena.

Hope this helps in planning future events.

[Joaquin]

First and foremost I am NOT advocating the looting that happened during the event. Nor am I saying I was involved in any looting at all. I am just stating some obvious facts that should be looked into before complaining about looting again.

1. Players are aware there is a possibility they will drop items upon death. The only exceptions are the arena and the special rules for PvP.

2. With the exceptions of afk stores who have were killed by bosses in the middle of town, players participated willingly in this event. You can even argue you are a willing participant by logging into the game during this time period.

3. There were ample opportunities 6 out of the 7 days to purchase the necessary lucky charm from the appropriate priest or priestess.

Now, for the social lessons:

4. This was an Independence Day event for NA servers. During the Battle for Independence I can almost guarantee there was wide spread looting of bodies after they were killed, most likely by both sides.

5. Even in current wars looters exist and rob from unoccupied and occupied stores. The Los Angeles Riots were a prime example of looting by people who where most likely lived in the same community. Shop keepers were forced to start over because of something that happened while they were away. Unless the had insurance, they were pretty much ruined.

So, what does this all mean for us. Obviously we take a chance every time we log into the Lineage game. There is a chance we will be Pked, die, lose items, get a full A-grade drop, win the lottery, or even win at the races. We as informed consumers (obviously we (and I use non-noobs in this sense) must be know what to expect since we have played this game for extended periods (days, weeks, months, years).

Does it suck that there are scumbags that stole from the dead. Very Much so. I nearly soiled myself when I died in my Divine Set because I forgot if I had my Lucky Charm on.

Should we blame NCSoft for allowing the mobs to go into the city and potentially kill AFK shops. Of course not. Again, this was a risk shopkeepers took when going AFK. Too many people were asking this question if it could happen in shouts, there were messages when you logged on, messages on this site, and horror stories (some true, others not) telling of shopkeepers dead. You gotta play smart if you don't wanna get sc rewed.

Can we blame the scumbags for stealing our stuff? Not really. They did exactly what their forefathers had done many years ago in the same situation. Plus, after day SIX of this event, you would think people would have smartened up to their antics and not gambled by not purchasing a lucky charm.

Was this a crappy event? No. It had the potential of involving all active players from a variety of levels and really turned the market upside down for those WAY overpriced L2Day scrolls that were often sought after, got players to work in groups of 25+ for a common goal, allowed people to see who the scumbags are in the game, gave other pretty killer drops, and all and all was pretty fun.

Some of the raid bosses on our server (Kain) rarely got touched because of their level or nasty attacks (Paralyze 4 was killer) but it allowed us all a chance to play with mains, alts, secondary alts, and try things maybe we haven't gotten to do in a while.

I've said my peace. Flame away.

[huxley]

one thing contradicts your whole statement. In a in-game war you never drop anything ever.

[Remmelas]

[ QUOTE ]
Here is my grade of this event.

Summary:
Accessibility: Fair D-, but after announcements (extra credit) C+


[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not sure Accessibility was that bad. I didn't participate in many raids (5 or 6), but the days that i did participate they weren't hard to find or hard to follow. Participated in 3 raids that fell one right after another. all in all i think it has been a great event. i lost a fortune in equipment, but made twice my losses in profits so i'm not complaining. :cool:

[shurcooL1]

Today is Monday, and the event continues?

What's going on, did they forget to turn it off? Not that I mind, but I think I will soon explode from overload of enchant scrolls. >.<

[huxley]

[ QUOTE ]
Today is Monday, and the event continues?

What's going on, did they forget to turn it off? Not that I mind, but I think I will soon explode from overload of enchant scrolls. >.<

[/ QUOTE ]it goes through today.

[Lord Chaos]

[ QUOTE ]
2. With the exceptions of afk stores who have were killed by bosses in the middle of town, players participated willingly in this event.

[/ QUOTE ]

Except people where getting killed for simply gating or logging in, with no hope of foreknowledge, warning or a chance to defend oneself.

[ QUOTE ]
3. There were ample opportunities 6 out of the 7 days to purchase the necessary lucky charm from the appropriate priest or priestess.

[/ QUOTE ]

Except as shown, there are several scenarios where having scrolls won't help you.

[ QUOTE ]
4. This was an Independence Day event for NA servers. During the Battle for Independence I can almost guarantee there was wide spread looting of bodies after they were killed, most likely by both sides.

[/ QUOTE ]

[censored]. Should we start having that on virtual characters too?

Yeah, lets institute an event, where all swear filters are removed and you can say and do anything you want with no fear of reprisals.

[ QUOTE ]
Obviously we take a chance every time we log into the Lineage game.

[/ QUOTE ]

No, logging into a town or gating wouldn't normally be "taking a chance" by any measure.

[ QUOTE ]
Should we blame NCSoft for allowing the mobs to go into the city and potentially kill AFK shops.

[/ QUOTE ]

There's no question they are to blame, it isn't players thats spawning them. The only question you can raise is how hard you want to blame them.

[ QUOTE ]
Of course not. Again, this was a risk shopkeepers took when going AFK.

[/ QUOTE ]

Most people weren't even aware of it. There were no direct warning when logging in, only at the very end of the event were there added ingame announcements. Even on the forums people were sceptical in the beginning about wether it was true or not. This is a holiday, many people simply log into the game to set up a shop and don't do anything else.

[ QUOTE ]
not gambled by not purchasing a lucky charm.

[/ QUOTE ]

Again, there are several situations where lucky charms doesn't work.

[VenomRaven]

Great Event!!! Good Job NC!!!! My money Problems are solved (For the moment)

[Monstrosity]

[ QUOTE ]
Here is my grade of this event.

Summary:
Loot: Great Drops, lots of variety! A+
Accessibility: Fair D-, but after announcements (extra credit) C+
Accessibility for each level: Every level had a chance at this event. B+
Story: Love how it all tied together. B+
Fun Factor: Once I was able to participate, very fun! B+
Risk/Reward: Dropped equipment worried me, but the loot was worth the risk. B
Overall Score: B+ Well planned out event!


That’s my 2 adena.

Hope this helps in planning future events.

[/ QUOTE ]

The drops was good for the already rich and powerful, thos got most of the stuff.

As for accessibility, it was pure shite, the ingame announcments was added much MUCH to late, they should have been there from day 1.

Accessibility for various lvs is somewhat split..
The rich and powerful either brought there alts for the "low" raid bosses, or their powerful characters for the mobs around him. (thats a bit hard to fix though)

Uhm, what story?
"Beasts are attacking! rawr! grrrrr"
(raid boss spawned)

[Joaquin]

[ QUOTE ]
Except people where getting killed for simply gating or logging in, with no hope of foreknowledge, warning or a chance to defend oneself.


[/ QUOTE ]

These numbers were few and far between. We're not talking about hundreds of players who are getting killed by mobs in town. I would guess that maybe 4-5 REAL scenarios of this happening.

[ QUOTE ]
Yeah, lets institute an event, where all swear filters are removed and you can say and do anything you want with no fear of reprisals.

[/ QUOTE ]

This pretty much happens in this game anyways. There are griefers, racist players, and many other bad types that are totally ruining the game for others and they get away with it daily. This is nothing new to the game.

[ QUOTE ]
No, logging into a town or gating wouldn't normally be "taking a chance" by any measure.

[/ QUOTE ]

You are always taking a chance with this game. There is a chance you might have a keylogger on, someone might have hacked your account, and the list goes on. Anyone who thinks they are safe in this game 100% of the time in town is not playing smart.

[ QUOTE ]
There's no question they are to blame, it isn't players thats spawning them. The only question you can raise is how hard you want to blame them.

[/ QUOTE ]

So, if something goes wrong with the event we automatically have to blame NCSoft even though there were players who deliberately took these mobs to town? I only saw one instance of a raid mob INSIDE of a town, but did not see it spawn there. What I did see in a series of raids is that players would run back to town and the mob would chase them into town, until the mob was hit, and then it ported back outside (and sometimes came back chasing the player again).

[ QUOTE ]
Most people weren't even aware of it. There were no direct warning when logging in, only at the very end of the event were there added ingame announcements. Even on the forums people were sceptical in the beginning about wether it was true or not. This is a holiday, many people simply log into the game to set up a shop and don't do anything else.

[/ QUOTE ]

Being unaware of something is not an excuse, this even goes for laws across the world. Just because I was not outrightly told every time I logged into the game that there was a chance something bad could happen to me, I was smart enough to figure it out. Ignorance is no excuse.

I would also be interested in HARD DATA of shopkeepers who truthfully lost items in a shop. Sure, I could come on and say I lost a 30 mil weapon with +8 enchantment, but without solid proof, it could easily be a lie.

[huxley]

The final event of last night started of at the lows of low. My level 44 main went to dion since the raid boss is a bit above my level. His minions spawn and they are like 15 levels below me for some reason. So I attack since I am there. All of a sudden a very high level caster comes and casts aoe spells that kills them all. They get every single drop...around 40-50 drops...I was so disgusted.

I run from there and race to heine figuring those mobs would be around my level. I get there and there is myself and one full clan and thats it. The mobs spawn and they are red to me. I fight them and the clan kills most of them. I kill 2 and get no scrolls but only adena. A few others I get 75% of damage but somehow they got the last 25% and the drop went to them?!??!

At this very very low point I finally login to my low level alt and head to gludin. I fight two raid bosses here and cash in big time. I was so shocked...somehow it was mostly normal players there. I got a good amount of drops for both raid bosses.

Then its off to Gludio! I went there and noticed the boss was red to me so I logged back into my 44 main and he is green to me, prefect!

I get recruited by an excellent group. I draw hate and keep aggro almost the whole battle which lasts about 45 minutes. Tank'd it and my group got first chance at drops, got only a few things but it was fun still. Overall last night

15 d armor enchants
7 d weapon enchants
5 +3 wit -3 int
12 +4 con -6 str
about 20 random scrolls