Question of the Week - Game Statistics

[SargeNC]

Hello everybody! This week begins a new series of posts asking your input on a number of topics. This week's topic is Game Statistics – there are many kinds of stats we could wonder about, such as how many A-grade weapons are in players’ hands? What percentage of the population is a female Dark Elf? What percentage a male Light Elf? Now, not all of these are simple to gather – or possible for us to report – but what kind of in-game stats would you be interested in seeing? Why? Keep replies constructive and on-topic, please.

Disclaimer: No part of this post is to be construed as a promise of any sort. While we will be bringing up topics we are interested in, they may never be implemented. Any posts implying that a Question of the Week constitutes a promise of any sort will cause the poster to be publicly mocked.

[MalineII]

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Which reminds me that other than :rolleyes: these forums quite definitely lack :wub:

I would be interested in
- Class Distribution, possibly with levels (although not of single characters, obviously)
- Server population (total characters? total accounts with active characters?)
- Total wealth in adena
- Quest statistics - how much are which quests being done?

:D ... but say, shouldn't this go in game suggestions?

[Maitreya]

Total number of players on each server on Peak times!!! :D

Total number of registered players on each server.

% of each race and class!

hmm...I may think of more stuff later.

[Caleria]

Total number of thread dropped on a saturday. ^^ Stems would work just as well here.

Besides that a ranking of the most popular quests would be interesting, too.

Cal

[SirDuncan]

Simple answer:

Do what they used to do for L1. They still have those folks around? Go talk to them.

Stats by class, level, server populations, etc.

[Box_of_Fox]

% of race and class on each server is very important to me.

AS WELL-- I would like to know the exact # of each class on the server.

I want to proudly look at the Gustin statistics and note that there aren't even double-digits worth of Elemental Summoners on Gustin...yet.

[L2Girl]

-- Number of alts played by one person

-- Number of servers one account holder plays on

-- Number of women playing L2

-- Number of couples playing L2

[psym]

- Time til u do something about bots and farmers.

[Lothlian]

Number of high enchanted items and types.

[Kiranya]

Pet wolves on each server. :D

[VetusAnimus]

number of mobs killed avarage 24 hours (noone said it had to be easy for them)
playing time

[Ziggy]

# of alliances
# of chaotic players
# of clan wars per week

yeh, mostly pvp type stuffs

Edit: oh btw that's by server :D

[miccoz]

Hello

About time someone asks about statistics :)

Now lets see. A lie, an even bigger lie, statistics.

All this per server:
% of races
% of each class in each race
% of male / female characters total / race / class
% of each race by levels, say 0-20, 21-40, 40-52, 53-62? (A-grade) and 63-70 and 71+
# of level 75 characters / race / class / gender
Most popular subclass
Average level of all characters
% of each grade weapons (NG, D, C, B, A) i.e. 15% NG, 25% D, 40% C, etc...
% of grade armours (NG, D, C, B, A) i.e. 15% NG, 25% D, 40% C, etc...
% of grade jewlery (NG, D, C, B, A) i.e. 15% NG, 25% D, 40% C, etc...
Most common/scarce weapons / grade
Most common/scarce armour / grade
Most common/scarce items / grade
Highest enchanted weapons / grade
Highest enchanted armour / grade
Highest enchanted items / grade
Total amount of adena in circulation
Average adena / character
Top 5 most common materials with quantity
Top 5 most scarce materials with quantity
# of characters
# of accounts(that have characters)
# of connections / day on average
# of petitions made
# or % of clans / clan level
# of alliances

These are the ones that popped into my head now. I'll possibly add more later :)

[Choch]

% of each class

ACTIVE accounts on each server (logged in once in the past month) and then % of total population

Most commonly dropped items (mob & player combined...SOE will be most common of course but it'd be interesting to see)

Distribution of playtime (% of total accounts playing > 40 hours a week, 30-40, 20-30, 10-20, and < 10). If you have a way to break this out into ACTIVE playtime (ie not in shops) that would be good.

Number and then also distribution of 75s across all servers (% on bartz, sieg, etc.)

Breakdown of level 75s by class (15% of 75s are SR, 10% SH, 10% BD, etc)

Breakdown of active subclasses.

And actually for me, I'm going to construe the OP as a promise to begin a series of posts asking our input via a Question of the Week. I'll take the mocking that may come along with my assumption of a promise for that :)

[Sovrath]

Classes per Server
Sub Classes per server (with their corresponding Main Class)
Races Per Server
Highest lvl per Class
Top 10 (or so) Wealthiest People (names aren't needed, just curious)

PvP/Pk numbers

Highest Enchanted Items

Most Hours per week played (again... no need to name names)... maybe top 10 people

[Bighands]

yeah to the class breakdown (we know dwarves will own this since everyone has at least 1 dwarf buy shop.. lol)
Class breakdown by level would be better.

I want some economy info too:
Total Adena Value / Periodic Growth (weekly or monthly)
Number of Failed enchants per period vs Successful enchants.
I'm not sure what other Economic indicators you guys look at, but come on and share!!

[Elrohir]

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Which reminds me that other than :rolleyes: these forums quite definitely lack :wub:


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Would you actually use :wub:??? :eek:

I'd like to see the number of times each week I get killed because of something a clanmate did (it's never my fault, you see).

[Durgoth]

How about total number of full drops per week, seperated by grades.

[Sovrath]

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yeah to the class breakdown (we know dwarves will own this since everyone has at least 1 dwarf buy shop.. lol)
Class breakdown by level would be better.

I want some economy info too:
Total Adena Value / Periodic Growth (weekly or monthly)
Number of Failed enchants per period vs Successful enchants.
I'm not sure what other Economic indicators you guys look at, but come on and share!!

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Yes of course... classes per lvl (per server) I just didn't state that well.

[ThomasCovanent]

Number of bot accounts banned each week.

[Z3ph3r]

I think an interesting few would be

Total XP Earned. (Per Server & Total)
Total SP Earned. (Per Server & Total)
Total Adena Earned (dropped by mobs). (Per Server & Total). Please don't include the number dropped on the ground then picked up again. Would be nasty to see one server that had 100,000,000,000,000,000 adena earned in a day.

/Complain
Keep the Stats very general in a player sense....

Don't link Main and Sub Classes together...bit too much info for some.

Stop posting asking about bannings and bots....those are silly and pointless questions.

[GaladronsBoy]

General demographics would be nice, i.e.:

Class breakout
Level breakout
Subclass breakout

Nothing too complicated, just simple numbers or percentages. :)

[Reidmar]

Number of raid bosses killed in the last week, and since the beginning (if possible).

Number of PvPs/PKs in the last week, and since the beginning. This one should settle all the interserver arguments over which server is the real PvP server.

[cyzco21]

Number of people running around with "please rec me" in their title and then the number of THOSE people that actually rec back when they receive one :mad:

[Matilda]

Dear SargeNC,

I would like to see: Clan Creation Date of the Existing Clans so one would know who the oldest still existing clans are. I would love to see that :)

Thank you
Matilda

[Woodsman]

I am also curious about the difference in taste/playstyle of the other countries. So I would love to see the demographics (class/race/gender) of other countries such as japan, South Korea and China.

It is often puzzling for us why NCSoft sometimes makes their decisions about which class to boost and so on. It might help if we know what the others are playing.

[Torqq]

I would like statistics for these personal things:

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# of kills vs every character (long list but cool; helps legitmize PVP counts too)

# of PKs vs every character

# of kills for every mob I've killed (log and scary but neat)

Combat stat logging to file so we can examine battles

# of failed/successed over-enchants on what item

For Dwarves: # of failed/successed crafts

Siege kill counts (why dont these count for PVP score?)
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[SoulMagic]

Mob Drops including drop/spoil rate :eek:

[soltyspl]

Top 100 with the biggest amount of adena, per character and per account (cumulative from all characters).

As above, but cumulatively with every item owned (using items' base prices).

[Choch]

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Dear SargeNC,

I would like to see: Clan Creation Date of the Existing Clans so one would know who the oldest still existing clans are. I would love to see that :)

Thank you
Matilda

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I agree but minimum 5 active members please. Don't want the list bogged down with clans that haven't had people log into the game for months.

[Eloin]

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Now, not all of these are simple to gather; or possible for us to report; but what kind of in-game stats would you be interested in seeing? Why?

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WHAT Mob drops WHAT ithem at WHAT rate!!

Thats the most wanted IN-GAME statistic ALMOST ALL player wanted since Prelude.

[TemplarZ]

1.) Server population of ACTIVE accounts (as in accounts, not characters).

2.) How many raid boss' are killed by bots, per day, per server.

[shine123]

this was a baaad idea haha. have fun getting all those requests!

[Hammered]

I too vote for items dropped/spoiled, by mob, possibly with a percentage drop/spoil rate.

Well, if you open yourself up to requests for drop info you deserve all you get. You'll learn. :p

[4r4k4w4]

Every single number available!! :D And raw data, so we can come up with our own analisys.

[Seffel]

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I too vote for items dropped/spoiled, by mob, possibly with a percentage drop/spoil rate.

Well, if you open yourself up to requests for drop info you deserve all you get. You'll learn. :p

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I would be happy for a list of mobs that drop/spoil Reinforced metalplate recipe :) and at what %. Been trying to get that one for over 4 lvls now

[Kryptonic]

Average price of all crafting materials in all private stores per server, for buy and sell shops. Updated every minute.

Most overpriced item on the server in a private store based on the store value.

% of all people who shout in Giran all day and never leave. Broken down by level and class.

Top 10 slowest levelers in the game. Based on amount of time it takes to kill the number of mobs to level up.

Average delay sorted by server of the time it takes after you kill one mob till you attack the next.

As someone said before, most popular quests, and least popular.

Oh, and how about a thing about who has actually won the lottery each week. Sorted by server.

[GrensealO]

# of light-armored glads left in the wild . . . T.T

:p

[RuggedOne]

- Number of SPS's created by pre-exsisting users since the inception of C3

[Slipp]

average amount of adena each player has. (average adena per player, per server)
total amount of adena per server.

[Sizur]

drop/spoil info is the most important thing.

aside of that everybody would love to see with past data if you have it, charted:

Definitions:
Networth = adena + aa + item worth (the adena you'd get by selling the item to shop times two);
Account Level = integer of highest level character on account divided by 10

everything is per server:

- total pvp kills and deaths by clan;
- distribution of total server Networth per Account Level;
- distribution of number of accounts per Account Level (and per class would be awesome);
- average daily account Networth change per Account Level (and per class would be awesome);


i know such queries would take many hours to complete so:
as somebody already said, make some raw/log file available for download for peeps to make their own analisys ;P that would be superb and would prove to peeps why they need to study math better in schools to have advantage in computer games. what a great idea isnt it! now NCsoft can have the BEST marketing ever! new NCsoft slogan: "We increase world living standards, health, boost research into all science fields that will feed the worlds poor and starving and find cures for deadly diseases. all of that because we promote world education as a whole!" and NCsoft can do all of that just by opening their log files to the public! no cost, enormous benefits! hire me now? ;P

[SirDuncan]

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well? Where are they :)

[MalineII]

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[SargeNC]

Working on it - don't hold your breath or anything, though. See above, re public mocking.

Sarge

[adoy_erica]

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Now, not all of these are simple to gather; or possible for us to report; but what kind of in-game stats would you be interested in seeing? Why?

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WHAT Mob drops WHAT ithem at WHAT rate!!

Thats the most wanted IN-GAME statistic ALMOST ALL player wanted since Prelude.

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this is clearly the number one thing we want ...


but i am surprized that no one has mentioned the second most important statistics ...

% of mob deaths resulting in equipped weapon drop (even if it is not actually supposed to happen)

% of pvp deaths resulting in equipped weapon drop both for pk&lt;5 reds/flagged/white and pk 5+ red/flagged/white

% of mob deaths resulting in equipped armor drop

% of pvp deaths resulting in equipped armor drop both for pk&lt;5 reds/flagged/white and pk 5+ red/flagged/white



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[fathom]

How bout the percentage of high level peeps that actually leveled their own character? You know...like how many characters are on 24/7. That would be nice. BTW sorry if someone already posted that one. This thread is too long to read through all of it.

[MuddBow]

Not sure if this has been brought up.

What is the success rate for overenchanting weapons, armors and jewels.

Is the success rate constant or are there other variables?

What are the other variables?

If there are other variables, how does that affect the success rate for overenchanting?

[Oranj2]

Total number of people with "xiao" in their names.

[Darkmotion]

Greetings,

The name of the person who will tally up numbers, and who will calculate the statistics.

Better get a knowledged mathematician and a good computer.

Have Fun ! ™

BoardPK
Official Board Devil

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[Elrohir]

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Total number of people with "xiao" in their names.

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"Overflow error"

[MasterNuker]

this game drains every ounce of my free time as is now i have to do math problems on top of it!!!!!!

[StThomas]

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Total number of people with "xiao" in their names.

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"Overflow error"

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HAHAHAHA!!!

I would like to see:

<ul type="square"> Number of level 75s by class [/list]

Would give us a feel for the upcoming Olympiad

[Flunt]

I owuld like to see statistics on the average time played between a level range, divided into classes.

For example, on average, how long does it take a dark avenger to level from 60-70? How long does it take a bishop?

Only game time should be included (the ammount of time the character was logged in), and the results will be a little scewed because of private shops. I think it would be interesting to see though.

[Ellisande]

Stats I would like to see:

1)Distribution of levels across each server
2)Number of male and female characters of each class on each server
3)Probabilities of quest item drops
4)Number of mobs of each level across each server
5)Distribution of adena per character per level for each server
6)Average adena per person for each server
7)Max/min, IQR of adena per character per server
8)Average price of each item per server per day
9)number of weapons of each overenchantment amount per server

Basically any and all economy related stats would be nice

[Darkmotion]

Greetings,

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8)Average price of each item per server per day


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OMG ! If you can trickle THAT one, i'm in !

Today on the L2 stock exchange, enchant scrolls are still taking a plunge, while enria, thons and asofe are still solid investments. Coins are stable after a slight down, due to the arrival of new stocks on the market, namely nectar.

Today's trading tip : Stockpile you mats until you get a REALLY good price for your wares if you can't afk sell.

Have Fun ! ™

BoardPK
Official Board Devil

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[Freakazoid]

Given that some information aren't released(enchant rates, drop rates) i'd break it down to three points which would interest me the most:

- total amount of adena per server
- distribution of classes/subclasses and their level (per server)
- amount of active accounts per server

And in case you keep older backups, this data would be ideally also in some sort of graph, with one to three month steps.

[TimberElf]

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Simple answer:

Do what they used to do for L1. They still have those folks around? Go talk to them.

Stats by class, level, server populations, etc.

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roger that !

No. of accounts per server.
No. of peak logins per server.
No. of level 20+.30+,40+,50+,60+,70+,
71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,2x75,3x75 per server.

[Kiranya]

Nothing yet huh?

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Any posts implying that a Question of the Week constitutes a promise of any sort will cause the poster to be publicly mocked.

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I'd really like to see something from NC on this "Question of the week"... anybody want to share stats on yer side of the fence Sarge? I mean, how many Pepsi cans consumed by yer programming team per day would be great at the least. ;) Ye shouldn't tease us like this. :D

Mock away. :D

[Darkmotion]

Greetings,

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Nothing yet huh?

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Any posts implying that a Question of the Week constitutes a promise of any sort will cause the poster to be publicly mocked.

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I'd really like to see something from NC on this "Question of the week"... anybody want to share stats on yer side of the fence Sarge? I mean, how many Pepsi cans consumed by yer programming team per day would be great at the least. ;) Ye shouldn't tease us like this. :D

Mock away. :D

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There is no forest, only trees.

I remember a suggestion in the last Q of the week, regarding the newsletter. Somebody suggested event teasers in the newsletter.

And guess what ? ** ** ** an "holiday" event teaser in this month's newsletter...

Sarge is sneaky, and is known to work close to Mistryl.

Have Fun ! ™

BoardPK
Official Board Devil

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[Kiranya]

Hehe - thanks DM. I was actually hoping more for game statistics then teasers. I mean, that stuff can be picked up in the suggestion forum.

[GaladronsBoy]

Wasn't this question asked before this? Couldn't find it though. :(

Like Kiranya said ... basic stats would be nice, plus some fun ones like wep enchant levels (how many +16 weps are there, really? :p)

And enough with the teasers already! :)

[Nanashi_Naomhan]

maybe statistics on how many ppl have been hunting in the same area for 24+ hours?
or how many times someone has delvled

i know this will prolly be deleted but ive always been curious

[Glav]

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Total number of people with "xiao" in their names.

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I have a character with Xiao in her name ... it's a female dwarfie too :o

[Ashka]

I would like to see silly numbers ^^
Whats the most used skill in the game? I bet recharge, or craft, if every craft count as one skill.
How many damage is dealed per min by server? Should be a mad number O.o
Since Open beta, how much mana has been used? =O (mad number again, I must have a problem)
So, how much adena has dropped from mob since open beta, and how much is still circulating until today;

Now, on a more serious base =p
Avarage players per server;
Average age of players;
How many players online at Peak times;
Avarege level os characters.

Theres some more, but the thread is not that new =p Maybe ill drop some more later.

[TombGuard]

my English is too poor, i don't understand a bit. :(

[Romanova]

I agree that I'd like to know the % of each class per server. It makes a huge difference when going through class transfers for those of us who want to be most useful to our clans.

I disagree on a lot of the game mechanics requests. I personally think the spoil/enchant/drop percentages are better left unknown. (sorry guys)

My bf has asked me to add that he'd like to know the percentage of new players joining per month.

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Wasn't this question asked before this? Couldn't find it though.

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That's because this is the old thread. It's just been bumped and some of us who didn't notice it before want to add our 2 cents. :) hehe

[Drekk]

number of people scammed per server

number of bots pked per catacombed

number of players trained on a daily basis

amount of sleep lossed during grinding

amount of time a mage has kicked a melee's butt in pvp

amount of over enchanted failed per enchant lvl (4+ - 16+)

/end thoughts

[Wetzel]

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Total number of people with "xiao" in their names.

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I have a character with Xiao in her name ... it's a female dwarfie too :o

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Asking for trouble? heh (j/k), do you ever get PMs from real farmers?

[GaladronsBoy]

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Wasn't this question asked before this? Couldn't find it though.

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That's because this is the old thred. It's just been bumped and some of us who didn't notice it before want to add our 2 cents. :) hehe

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Doh. Color me blind. It was right in front of me all the time. If it was a snake it would have bit me. :p :)

[righteousOne]

I think some of the best stats would be things like Average lv of players on the server or % of players at such a grade range. As well as number of subclasses chars. A really cool one would be times such and such raid bosses have been slain.