Synergy

[Downiejin]

All these words and rumors flying around about Synergy.. I guess the server wants to know whats going on with our small alliance!

I came back to the gave a few months ago after having taken a decent break. I didnt think Id get back into L2 again because I was let down about C3 so much but my friends kept me playing. The closest being the core friends Ive made from Aurora back when we played together in EA. Now it might seems strange why I make this alliance in the middle of the war with NM and M?

Having a small alliance has always been an idea of mine. It was something I wanted to do with Aurora and Oz guys before we even joined up with M. But I was harassed by a lot of people, as were members from those clans and it seemed tough to get it off its feet really. I tried grouping with anyone my first weeks back to the game, friends I had in Aurora, M and NM. I just wanted to see where the server was, which allies had grown ect. It became obvious to me quickly though that some people wanted to hold a grudge on me, and I can understand why. I dont expect people to forgive things that EA did mainly to their friends or themselves. These past offenses are what fule an ongoing hate, and I can accept that. In short, after trying to mess around at sieges like Innadrill where Devil's edge alliance had their own castle and NM came to 'have fun' and cleared the field but didnt hit the castle, it was obvious what was going on to me. They said were attacking everyone but were just as friendly running around with SVPs too. I guess these were allies in destroying EA after I had left. So it seemed like if I brought my own force to Oren or Innadrill (since a small clan or two I could make couldnt take NM) that theyd all still come together to keep it. So with Aden, Oren, Innadril, and Giran out of the question.. we formed in a moments notice our ally to go at Aden to "just have fun too." That upset was the catalyst which brought this whole war into play. Whether what I said was assumptions or truth doesnt really matter though. These are things of past and not the basis for anything Synergy stands for. But just to show an explanation of why we joined with M. I enjoyed my times with M very much, and we had many great PvPs on both sides. I dont regret anytime being in there, and appreciate not only Linda and Lickn's time as leaders and friends, but the entire alliance. We accomplished a lot together, and met plenty of great people there too.

So then, why Synergy? Well, my observations on this PKing war is it was getting too old. People talk plenty about "there will always be 2 sides," and in this sense that was very true. This war drew some people from each alliance away, and others closer. But the real problem was what it was doing to the rest of the alliances and the server as a whole. Other larger alliances were too scared to get involved in the seriousness of this and played almost as if that wasnt an exsistence they could involve themselves in. The mechanics of the war also bored a lot of players from both sides. Intensive greifing on eachother and serious insults to really try to 'hurt' your enemy. I mean hurting their spirits, getting them to quit and say 'you win, you beat me.' This is the idea behind endless assaults on the enemy. Not having legitimate PvP, but instead, gaining advantage at any cost just to "keep score" and have an idea of who is the 'best.' Unfortunately, being the best doesnt always bring out the best in people.

But back to the question, Synergy was developed to not only hopefully change the idea of that war, but to change the general culture of PvP. Synergy was created in idea to remain small. Keeping small would be a good idea for us, because it is made up of PvP veterans of gustin. Oz and Aurora left M with me, and members left NM to join under my clan. It wasnt easy for either side to do. But we hoped for something better with no hard feelings. Weve remained on that 3 clan size, and Ive had many players asking to join, and many clans asking to join. We do recruit, and invite very small. We dont 'test' our players as warlord asked, we typically invite as a friend of a member or someone we believe can be a good member for the alliance. People has said were neutral but thats not the case. Our idea is to be independant. Which means, we operate on our own for PvP or PvE with the exception of friends here and there.

Synergy is strong from the go sure, because of the people weve recruited. But it has a lot of work still, and its only a couple weeks old. I was hoping more alliances would want to fight on their own. Too often do I see people running into a problem, and instead of looking within themselves(their alliance) for an answer, they look elsewhere for someone to answer it for them. I think this is a lazy form of solving your problems, an easy out with not much reward. But maybe its the most rewarding thing in life for others, I could be crazy. This idea was perhaps a way to solve the dilemma of the omnipresent '2 sides to every fight.'

But everyone is calling out Synergy as a new EA, and for that reason I never made a post before when we created it at scratch. I feel my alliance is strong enough with the 3 clans we have now, and trying to build up more would only tear us down more down the line. It allows us to PvP with others maybe slowly now, but I see lots of the alliances in good spirits and Im sure we will have much more on our hands later. Now I dont expect every alliance to do that, and I know they wont. In the phrase 'staying out of politics' thats been coined off me its in reference to teaming up with others to win a fight. For example, we signed to attack Gludio this past weekend. Tsin asked the day before and I said yes well be coming alone with 4-5 groups. So we did come with 4 groups. Hours before the siege 2 other alliances told me they were planning to attack and asked if I was planning to take the castle? I told them we only had one clan signed and didnt plan to take it, just to go and have fun. He said his alliances wanted to capture it and I said we will fire in all directions, were there simply to have fun PvPing, good luck with it. I saw they never came but thats the general idea of staying out of politics. I could inturn say oh sure we can work together and expect his allegiance down the line. A lazy form of victory for a short term effect of 'fun'... I dont look down or even think its bad for some allies to work together. What I dont like is when allies work together at any cost for victory or domination over an enemy. It offers no real competition, and thats really what upset people about EA so much. Going head to head with Nightmare even now for example, itd take some real miracle work to win a fight being so outnumbered. Thats not to say we wouldnt do it for the sheer enjoyment of PvP, but were a new alliance and I dont think were ready for that. The officers of Synergy agreed in making it that we wouldnt siege NM or Ms castles since the both had just lost many of their allies. As DTF and WLE as a witness, you can see itd be tough for a small alliance to take greater numbers on a siege field even with level advantage due to the outlasting endurance you need in a siege. It will take a lot of work for us to pull that off, and I think we can, but our ambition to succeed with eachother will drive us to victory, not a nearby ally with the same interests. So I understand why people think Im trying to recreate EA, having been a leader for awhile in its time, but I dont see how you can draw a realistic conclusion from our current structure.

As for the recent developements, it seems a lot are bonding together to attack us. Even while fighting large numbers at Gludio, we had not only Nightmare come at us with 2 groups, but SW and SVP brought 2 groups as well. Each with their own reasons I suppose. Weve been attacking Triz and the RC from the moment the ally started, because Triz stole +7 dual SLS from one of our reds. On the siege date SW killed one of our reds who didnt PK or harm any of them, just because he was passing. When he hid away laughing about it, they went and killed a group of theirs in AL. Sounds pretty fair to me really. I dont involve myself with reds that I have no business knowing why they are red. Apparently one of my members said they were KOS, but if you listen to the member of each clan, I guess I should kill DTF because 5dollars said we got owned at the siege and were a bunch of losers. Even Fusion is upset because we killed one of their members while they were in M. Yes, we will PK anybody if its warranted, we ARE independant. Soutif ran in towards the 75 quest box from the raid mobs and was killed before I even knew he was there. Weve PKed M, NM, and neutrals for doing that. If you wanna get credit for other peoples work, you should ask them before hand if its ok to do so. I dont mind people looting it who can actually kill it with their clan/ally, but 90% of the time its someone weve never heard of from Forgetten Heroes or something. In short, if clans like this are angry and want to fight, then why do they all bond together? Is it really necessary? If you blind yourselves saying were power driven, then Id take a look at the siege fields and castle owners. If you have a nice castle and people arent trying to take it, that should probally tell you something.

But theres still people out there with heart to fight and accomplish things on their own. Much respects to Solidarity for PvPing us more than once these past weeks, no matter what the reason was you came and fought as a team. We enjoy the casual PvP and not having to hunt eachother down. :p

[Inhale]

get powerleveled by Hashlord more plxxx, ty.

[PrivatePancak3s]

A lot of this is BS :(

[montekaunas]

propaganda... didnt' even read it yet but i smell it

[montekaunas]

yeap propaganda

[thomas]

Darn long post, but interesting reading :)

[iloveheadshots]

go pk and pvp more poeple friend, make more enemies!!!!

[BudLight]

Are you trying to get sympothy vote? U deserve to get pkd every time u get seen. Sorry buddy but people hate you for a reason. a **** good one.

Dont give me the outnumbered crap that goes both ways and you know that.

And as for your casual pvp that goes both ways too. then again, if they dont flag bag that means u going to pk them? seems so. check out your vid against solidarity i saw more of your members red than theirs.

full of **** as usual.

BudLigt
Incubo

[PrivatePancak3s]

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So then, why Synergy? Well, my observations on this PKing war is it was getting too old.

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Clearly, thats why Synergy never ganks/Pk's XP parties

[Downiejin]

Yes, when you attack a red you dont flag. When you defend a red, you go red too.

Im not going for propoganda or BS. Theres no sympathy to win for my advantage either. This isnt a slander post towards anyone, this is an explanation of our alliance. If you feel you must PK me everytime Im seen then so be it. To say everyone should is foolish. If you wanna challenge the ideals or question in the thread then feel free. But please keep the nonsense posts out of this, you have the rest of the forum for that.

[PrivatePancak3s]

Dont twist my words either, please say this flat out. Please tell me "I go to Desciples for the soul purpose of PK'ing XP parties while we are white" .. in that situation none of you at that moment are red, none of us are flagged... its a simple gank... please dont deny the fact that you HUNT for certain people/clans you do not like, and thus PK them.

Edit: My point out of this is that you are making it seem like we are the ones constantly searching for people to just flat out GANK xping, when its usually Synergy.

[Downiejin]

Sure weve done that with you. But we wont seperate ourselves from fighting others in order to destroy that one clan. Being bound on that is a terrible way to play the game I think. When we do go there, we go with a party or less typically. Im not denying we PK people at all either. Is it wrong to do this when you do the same? I dont like the style of fight you play but we had our reasons for attacking an RC guy and so now you want war with us all.

[borrruuu]

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Dont twist my words either, please say this flat out. Please tell me "I go to Desciples for the soul purpose of PK'ing XP parties while we are white" .. in that situation none of you at that moment are red, none of us are flagged... its a simple gank... please dont deny the fact that you HUNT for certain people/clans you do not like, and thus PK them.

Edit: My point out of this is that you are making it seem like we are the ones constantly searching for people to just flat out GANK xping, when its usually Synergy.

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Actually if you left Disciples a little more often to come pvp then people would not come there and pk u guys. Just a thought.

[montekaunas]

well yea ofcoarse my 6 person party againts your 2 parties LETS DO SOME FREAKIN PV!!!BOOYAAAAA

[LickNMeLollypop]

kami stole 900mil from my vault...

[SongofSymphony]

You sold out EA. SOLD THEM OUT. NO ONE EXCEPT EA2 WOULD FOLLOW A LOSER LIKE YOU :confused:

YOU ARE A PARASITE. KAMISAMA!!!

[BudLight]

Boru what are u saying? maybe if u left TOI for once we would get some pvp too? or how about maybe attending oren siege last weekend you most likely would've had some pvp there.

Your post makes no sense what so ever.

BudLight
Incubo

[LickNMeLollypop]

I don't think you know who Boru really is... ;)

[SongofSymphony]

ONE WORD = GREED! :confused:

[SongofSymphony]

Poor Shorty. Poor anyone involved with Kamisama :confused: :confused: :confused:

[SongofSymphony]

Poor Belair. Poor Shorty. Poor anyone 5 months from now. :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[SongofSymphony]

WAKE UP! HE LIES! HE HURTS REAL PEOPLE! :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Downiejin]

Youre on PCP!

[BudLight]

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I don't think you know who Boru really is... ;)

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I knew the original Boru. good guy.

BudLight
Incubo

[Downiejin]

I know the original Budlight, he is very angry at me :p

[Morianne]

This is not to everyone in M but there is 1-3 parties of bighitters up there that rarly bother to pvp..
If they would ever leave ToI we could have pvp'd. But we just don't waste time running 8 floors up just to have the people on 9th soe just in time because they have wind / walker or whatever people use these days.

And for kami's post.

You piss people off, you get people against you.
We should know since we have 4 alliances KOSing us; M, Syn, LCN and SOS.
The automaticly bond together to fight the "higher power bla bla bla"

but w/e i dont have a problem with the current setup, alot of pvp, alot of ganking, not THAT much smacktalk which is nice.
Just shooting the shait so to speak ~

[MugiMugi]

why don't yall set up a date for pvp or something, instead of running to toi or disciples, and saying to eachother "oh~~~ such a pain going into disciples; oh~~~ such a pain running up 8 floors?"

[MugiMugi]

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But we just don't waste time running 8 floors up just to have the people on 9th soe just in time because they have wind / walker or whatever people use these days.

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just grab harv/yeggy/de4d/aaa/bb/d93/d925/59f02/84592/02349098/49584958/9586s... in your vent and ask him directly.

[Downiejin]

I hear you man. I have no reason to KOS NM though. Like I said that deal with Triz.. :p I dont prefer ganking, but thats what youll get in any ongoing fight(war). I know theres a few in our ally that just love to go out and do that though, and some for you too. Its cool, thats the game. I could sit happy just doing PvPs, but its hard for that to happen with collections of different feelings from various people.

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You piss people off, you get people against you.

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Yea thats true. And I tried to explain namely 2 of the people we saw coming to try to fight us this weekend, the reasons are pretty pathetic IMO. :/ But even worse to side up with someone else to fight us, like were forcing them. We PKed one fusion who PKed back. And the SW attacked one of our reds for no reason first. I havent KOSed either of them either... so to play me out like a villain that forced them is kinda ******ed.

[BudLight]

[ QUOTE ]
why don't yall set up a date for pvp or something, instead of running to toi or disciples, and saying to eachother "oh~~~ such a pain going into disciples; oh~~~ such a pain running up 8 floors?"

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arent those called sieges?

BudLight
Incubo

[MugiMugi]

yes and i think we did well in Oren :)

[Downiejin]

[ QUOTE ]
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why don't yall set up a date for pvp or something, instead of running to toi or disciples, and saying to eachother "oh~~~ such a pain going into disciples; oh~~~ such a pain running up 8 floors?"

[/ QUOTE ]

arent those called sieges?

BudLight
Incubo

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For those whos thirst is not quenshed every 2 weeks maybe!

[BudLight]

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yes and i think we did well in Oren :)

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U bsoeing on a siege field is considered doing well? U've been hanging out with g4 for too long. Or maybe u had your walker on?


BudLight
Incubo

[Kittyhunter]

Love is in the air. OMG valentines day is coming, lets make love not war!

[WaRpZnEwt]

who will role play marry me in C4?!

[_HuGo_]

Hey

Im not gonna make some hugeass long post since i just arrived at work and theres stuff to do, just read ur post and I would like to ask you... You said u played with friends when u came back...

You call being "Galahad" on ventrilo, and cozy ingame and using a voicechange so u sounded like someone else, you pretended to be a noob, I knew right away it wasnt some random noob of cozys friends on cozy. you attended at our raids, trying to play stupid, but then again if u call that playing with ur friends in NM?

Do you even wonder what people thought about u when u [censored] up with the second client in vent? you got banned right after, but i dont know what u expected, i dont even know what your goals were back then, to see what members out of NM you could get with u to ur new ally? I dont know. Im just guessing. It doesnt really matter to me.

I see your saying u didnt want to fight NM to start off with, im just wondering how can u avoid this... The first thing i hear when i got in vent is that different RC members were getting killed, so we came out to help as we are in the same ally.

You also say u were bored of the gank war, but the next thing u do is form Synergy and start to gank N... real bored of ganking huh?

I gotta get to work... So only this for now...

[cafo]

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Weve been attacking Triz and the RC from the moment the ally started, because Triz stole +7 dual SLS from one of our reds

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How in the hell can this be stealing?
If the person was over 6 pks, and triz killed him/her and got the drop, then there is no stealing involved in my point of view.

But other then that nice read

[Downiejin]

Hehe, the legend of Galahad. Well most people dont know about that, but I wasnt there for any ill will. I had hopped on cozy a few times before that just to look around at people. Then I hopped on your raids cause I wanted to see Lilith... something I never saw in C3. I didnt do anything or sabotage your clan. I was playing another game at that time and didnt plan to come back to L2, was just having fun with cozy. As for that voice changer program, that was a joke. :p I hope you didnt think I expected anybody to think it was real. It sounded like satan on purpose, not a real voice.. lol. I wasnt trying to start that ally then, or playing L2.. so no I wasnt trying to recruit anybody. I missed ragge and cozy, thats all.

We were killing Triz when she was in heavens though. And the 5 days he wasnt in it. And then the day before he joined after NM people had detagged. I understand youre helping your ally, I dont condemn it. But I hope you understand why we dont back off just cause of his new tag. And yes, bored of ganking.. Im open to solutions, but when one side is hit the other doesnt like to sit idle saying those guys suck.

Cafo- I guess it depends what you call stealing. As I hear it went down Oz was fighting a KoL group over a room and the BD went red at the end. Triz was on a prophet there who I think got PKed too by accident. They gave her a bishop ress and offered money for the misconveinance. Then they killed the BD karma off there and he yoinked the blades. Stupid for them, but for us that wasnt right for Triz to do. So there it is :/

[Morianne]

I dont know what reasons Fusion and SW had to go against you and I don't really care.
I'm not talking from their point of wiew regarding this.

You said you didnt want to get involved in a war with N right away. Two days after your alliance was formed you guys ganked/pked 2 RC members.
It dosnt matter what they are named because we are an ally and therefor we helped them.

You were told by people from your own ally that if you mess with RC you will get Incubo / SK on you no matter what. This was obviosly ignored and these two guys were still beeing ganked.

For your alliance to think that if you said that "it's only these 2 guys we have a problem with" would make our ally kick them and therefor avoid a war then you should think again.
NM stands down for no one and has not done so during this 1 year and 2 months I've been in it and I don't think we will start to put up with crap right now either.

You wanted pvp with your alliance which is cool, but just say it straight out that you want to pvp us instead of taking back doors.
Now you have your pvp VS NM alliance and I'm happy for it! Myself and Ingladius have wrapped up quite a few pvp scores since this happend and i'm sure you have killed us a few times too..
but..

we love it so keep it coming!

[Downiejin]

Yea I dont expect you not to defend him if hes in your alliance. I didnt think he was going to join either, but regardless we were going to attack him. When the NM detagged and was killed by them before he joined he said WTH IM NM?! And then he saw they were leaving and said WTH M and NM are so [censored] up, im going back to heavens lol. But whatever, he needed somewhere to hide. You dont think your old clan members left to kill or destroy NM do you? Was never a plan for us..

[Morianne]

No no I never thought they left for a reason like that. They just want to have fun like everyone else and that's was the best option for them as they saw it.
I don't hold any grudges towards the people that left, quite fun pvping them though =P

About Triz; I don't personally know him that well but from what I've seen and from what he has done in Nightmare I find him a very nice and relaxed person.
No reasons not to defend a guy like that =P

[Downiejin]

On that logic youll have a lot of very nice people to be defending! :p

[_HuGo_]

For the Galahad thing, no I didnt take it serious, all I did was trying to find out who the hell it was. I can say I wasnt one bit surprised it was you....

About iono theseus mainly the 2 guys who used to be NM for so long, i seriously lost a ton of respect for both of em, they are with N for 1½ year and they decide to leave with not even a 2 minute notice, I found out myself just before iono actually pmed me and said he was coming to vent... I already then knew it.

[Morianne]

I'll happily do it!
And it's bloody funny to go red on Theseus :) Got one up on you boy!

PvP is the reason why we all (oh well) work to grind our chars up as much as possible. So keep bringing it! =D

Gotta hit the gym ~ see you laters people

[Downiejin]

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For the Galahad thing, no I didnt take it serious, all I did was trying to find out who the hell it was. I can say I wasnt one bit surprised it was you....

About iono theseus mainly the 2 guys who used to be NM for so long, i seriously lost a ton of respect for both of em, they are with N for 1½ year and they decide to leave with not even a 2 minute notice, I found out myself just before iono actually pmed me and said he was coming to vent... I already then knew it.

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Unpredictable and having fun.. Yes that is me. :p

I know Iono and theseus had respect and appreciation for everything youve done with NM and them. I cant speak for them, but I know they didnt leave without their own reasons. I dunno if thats even relevant though. :confused:

[_HuGo_]

Well I didnt really hear alot of reasons since iono was the one speaking and did in a public channel in ventrilo...

The one thing that made me ****** off was that I had to get a pm from Pancakes before i even realised what was going on, I went into game started to type in clan chat, no response... So I get a pm from iono telling me he was gonna come on vent... already then I knew what was going on since I found out that he had been on EA vent with you and ofc a bunch of other people that now are in Synergy... I dont mind people leaving as long as they speak to me with more than a 2 minute notice lol and dont just head off start to pk neutral people with a N tag at FG, wasnt really nice moves... I had more pm's from WLE asking why they were getting killed by N and i was like ? since I had no clue...

But what done is done... Im still speaking to theseus :)

Edit: I was told by Fresh that iono hold some grudge against me, what it is, he couldnt say... Dunno if its true or if he was speaking out of his *** as usual...

I know I dont have a problem with iono... but dunno :o

[SeeLanaa]

Very interesting post indeed, kami. Since we left M, our goal is still undecided, but something going along those lines would please me (being independant i mean), but there's still things to discuss in our clan itself, not to mention that we're a clan only, and not an alliance of 3.

As to Fusion being angry at you, some of our member are indeed not pleased with past actions, and i may not agree with all of them, but it's how life is, many different point of views when you get many peoples together. I personnaly don't hold grudge on you for anything, you proved being a strong leader in many ways (sieging, pvping), and in that aspect of things you earned my respect. That some of my clannies don't have the same views i can't do anything about it.

Future is still uncertain for us right now. I personnaly have many friends in M, SoS, LCN, Synergy and guys i respect much in N too. That's why the "no side" seems like a nice option to go with. That's still to be discussed...

[UniqeDK]

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Weve been attacking Triz and the RC from the moment the ally started, because Triz stole +7 dual SLS from one of our reds.

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Can help u abit on the right track there, the red was killed/trained while it was working off the karma it had gotten by pking Triz's party.

[ionopet]

less politics, less angry tyrants, more ally wars tbh.

[_HuGo_]

I dont understand ur point in the middle?

Less politics, ofcourse... u dont care who u kill, but... less angry tyrants..?

[Downiejin]

Dannyz = tyrant

[ionopet]

By tyrant I meant the very angry person posting in this post who plays a tyrant not a leader of a clan etc.

[Morianne]

[ QUOTE ]
By tyrant I meant the very angry person posting in this post who plays a tyrant not a leader of a clan etc.

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cafo?

[_HuGo_]

he means budlight

edit: bud isnt angry, he just got a very strong opinion about kami

[LickNMeLollypop]

I make Budlight one angry Tyrant!

[AURAGIN]

Not Bud, I would think he means hugo himself, sense I dont think hes an actual leader, and ionoperson see's him as a tyrant. Thats just y insightful opinion after reading this furom.

[_HuGo_]

good post .. oO

[pinkie]

well the only think that ****** me off about the whole thing was jamie (blaz3)
but im not going to go into that

i still class inono, jimminy cricket and theseus my e-friends
even tho i havent loged on l2 in a while, when my pc works again (it broke yesturday, **** psu went) ill log in (feel like playing again :))

[LilLyd]

Did the man with Gustin's most famous permared (who is still in use) really just make a post about how ganking is bad and pvp is good?

[Downiejin]

Weve calm down Draxlin! He PKs, he doesnt gank. ;)

[LickNMeLollypop]

Taiyed makes Draxlin look like a sissy!

[Warlord1]

I just got hung up in the stealing part. You said that Triz stole some duals..Well didnt one of your dwarfs steal some dagger off hugo outside giran once? and... when some of the former nightmare ppl left for synergy didn't a lot of them take the armor + weapon that their former clan had provided for them?

So kami plz dont talk about stealing and putting ppl on kos for that.

Besides that I welcome the fact that someone is trying to form a 3rd site. You still get the [censored] kicked out of you ;)

[Morianne]

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Weve calm down Draxlin! He PKs, he doesnt gank. ;)

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No no no, Draxlin dosnt discriminate.. ;)

[Theseus_N]

I'm a thief now, that is nice to know.

[LickNMeLollypop]

Being in a clan for over a year entitles you to nothing when you leave, don't ya know?

[Bighands]

If a clan gives you something ya can't very well steal it.. since you own it.
If a clan loans you something and you leave and keep it then you are a **** head.
If someone is red and you kill em and they drop something and you jack it.. that's not stealing, although you should be well aware that attacking a person who is red is a slap in the face to thier clan, and therefore you may get put on the WAOS (Whoop *** On Sight) list.

:)

[ionopet]

I was refering to budlight and it was more lighthearted than anything, but w/e keep thinking i was refering to hugo if you must!

[Morianne]

Was there anyone who seriosly thought inono was reffering to hugoboss? =X

[TTaz]

All the love in this room.....Group Hug anyone :o

[Warlord1]

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I'm a thief now, that is nice to know.

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As far as I picked up how the "rules" are in NM, you have to turn in the stuff that the clan leader wants you to turn in (thats has been provided to you) and you'll keep the rest. So if u have to turn in your amor and your wep you have to do that but you will be give a similar armor + wep to the one you had when u entered the clan.

I'm not 100% certain but I think some of the former nm ppl just left and didnt even offer to give some of the stuff back. Thats what i call stealing.

I dont know what you did Thesus

[Choco]

OMG--What if we had a server WITHOUT one or two uber alliances dominating?

What if we had a server with lots of independent forces, and groups like Synergy and Fusion and NM joining or splitting with whomever they wanted, whenever they wanted?

Hey that would be really CHAOTIC!!!

(Hmmmm. What's this game called again?)

Viva La Independence and FU anyone who builds another uber alliance. (unless it's me)


Thank You.


--Choc
6x SH NoobCaster
ClanInfinity
Player, Lineage II--The Chaotic Chronicle

[Bighands]

[ QUOTE ]
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I'm a thief now, that is nice to know.

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As far as I picked up how the "rules" are in NM, you have to turn in the stuff that the clan leader wants you to turn in (thats has been provided to you) and you'll keep the rest. So if u have to turn in your amor and your wep you have to do that but you will be give a similar armor + wep to the one you had when u entered the clan.

I'm not 100% certain but I think some of the former nm ppl just left and didnt even offer to give some of the stuff back. Thats what i call stealing.

I dont know what you did Thesus

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ahh I didn't know that. We don't do it that way because of the exact problem you describe.. the confusion on what happens when someone leaves.

We either give the person the piece of gear, or we loan it to em. They are told when they get it which it is.

Welp.. if you're supposed to give it back, but don't.. then yeah that would be stealing.

[Bighands]

[ QUOTE ]
OMG--What if we had a server WITHOUT one or two uber alliances dominating?

What if we had a server with lots of independent forces, and groups like Synergy and Fusion and NM joining or splitting with whomever they wanted, whenever they wanted?

Hey that would be really CHAOTIC!!!

(Hmmmm. What's this game called again?)

Viva La Independence and FU anyone who builds another uber alliance. (unless it's me)


Thank You.


--Choc
6x SH NoobCaster
ClanInfinity
Player, Lineage II--The Chaotic Chronicle

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I'd call it.. SMURFTACULAR

[LickNMeLollypop]

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As far as I picked up how the "rules" are in NM, you have to turn in the stuff that the clan leader wants you to turn in (thats has been provided to you) and you'll keep the rest. So if u have to turn in your amor and your wep you have to do that but you will be give a similar armor + wep to the one you had when u entered the clan.

I'm not 100% certain but I think some of the former nm ppl just left and didnt even offer to give some of the stuff back. Thats what i call stealing.


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I don't know the rules in NM, but I find it silly if your clanmate helps, fights and dies for your clan for especially that long, he has earned the gear that he has. Find it hard to believe people would want to be in a clan for so long, only to borrow the equip to help futher the CLAN along all this time. So, in reality I guess the player would only gain by clan getting him lvls?

[Husje]

[ QUOTE ]
OMG--What if we had a server WITHOUT one or two uber alliances dominating?

What if we had a server with lots of independent forces, and groups like Synergy and Fusion and NM joining or splitting with whomever they wanted, whenever they wanted?

Hey that would be really CHAOTIC!!!

(Hmmmm. What's this game called again?)

Viva La Independence and FU anyone who builds another uber alliance. (unless it's me)


Thank You.


--Choc
6x SH NoobCaster
ClanInfinity
Player, Lineage II--The Chaotic Chronicle

[/ QUOTE ]
Stop forum trolling and go leveling you you punk

[Bighands]

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As far as I picked up how the "rules" are in NM, you have to turn in the stuff that the clan leader wants you to turn in (thats has been provided to you) and you'll keep the rest. So if u have to turn in your amor and your wep you have to do that but you will be give a similar armor + wep to the one you had when u entered the clan.

I'm not 100% certain but I think some of the former nm ppl just left and didnt even offer to give some of the stuff back. Thats what i call stealing.


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I don't know the rules in NM, but I find it silly if your clanmate helps, fights and dies for your clan for especially that long, he has earned the gear that he has. Find it hard to believe people would want to be in a clan for so long, only to borrow the equip to help futher the CLAN along all this time. So, in reality I guess the player would only gain by clan getting him lvls?

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I gotta agree with ya.
I can't see joining a clan and putting everything in the WH if I'm gonna have to give back the gear provided to me if I ever leave. That doesn't make sense.

If the clan doesn't do all in, and instead it's just aperiodic thing, then I guess it would be alright. Or if it's stricly a loaner type scenario.. but I can't see spending 10 months putting everything in only to be set back to C grade because I leave. :(

[Choco]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
OMG--What if we had a server WITHOUT one or two uber alliances dominating?

What if we had a server with lots of independent forces, and groups like Synergy and Fusion and NM joining or splitting with whomever they wanted, whenever they wanted?

Hey that would be really CHAOTIC!!!

(Hmmmm. What's this game called again?)

Viva La Independence and FU anyone who builds another uber alliance. (unless it's me)


Thank You.


--Choc
6x SH NoobCaster
ClanInfinity
Player, Lineage II--The Chaotic Chronicle

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Stop forum trolling and go leveling you you punk

[/ QUOTE ]


I can't. I'm in an airport...you keep forgetting I work for a living.

P.S. If you take the first, second, fourth and last letter of Chaotic, it spells "Choc"

I vote for smurftacular. No more of this silly we can count on NM to own this and fight that, or EA to kill everyone if they feel like it.

How about a little Chaos?

I vote anarchy, and I repeat FU anyone (other than me) that builds any uber anything, for more than 1 siege period.

I thank you all for my in game experience. Can we please make it more interesting?

[llamas]

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IWell didnt one of your dwarfs steal some dagger off hugo outside giran once? and...

[/ QUOTE ]

So NM still has no clue who this dwarf was?

AND YES THE DWARF STOLE YOUR GEARS SINCE WE WERE AT WAR WITH YOU KK?

and the dwarf actally got:

+3 kris.. +3 Majestic boots..Stryder..

ninja looted.

If you STILL dont know who the dwarf was.. ILL RAT HIM OUT.

lol

[Salao]

speaking of gear, here's a good laugh to be had. (/sarcasm EXTREMELY HIGH)
http://www.therepublicalliance.org/mkportal/modules/gallery/album/a_55.jpg

GFG.

[LickNMeLollypop]

He's an evil SwS/SH!

[Durgoth]

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speaking of gear, here's a good laugh to be had. (/sarcasm EXTREMELY HIGH)
http://www.therepublicalliance.org/mkportal/modules/gallery/album/a_55.jpg

GFG.

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:(

[Bighands]

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speaking of gear, here's a good laugh to be had. (/sarcasm EXTREMELY HIGH)
http://www.therepublicalliance.org/mkportal/modules/gallery/album/a_55.jpg

GFG.

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ahhh the pain.. was that your SoM? The one you were talking about crafting? omg.. that hurts.. like getting kicked in the jimmy by a wild elephant.

[AURAGIN]

Yeah I would have to agree with Bighands and Lickn, They fight along side you for a year and a half, which pretty much means they earn the gear. Not to mention you'll prob just sell it if you had it neways, wouldnt go to someone else in clan

[Shu9arhi]

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All these words and rumors flying around about Synergy.. I guess the server wants to know whats going on with our small alliance!

I came back to the gave a few months ago after having taken a decent break. I didnt think Id get back into L2 again because I was let down about C3 so much but my friends kept me playing. The closest being the core friends Ive made from Aurora back when we played together in EA. Now it might seems strange why I make this alliance in the middle of the war with NM and M?

Having a small alliance has always been an idea of mine. It was something I wanted to do with Aurora and Oz guys before we even joined up with M. But I was harassed by a lot of people, as were members from those clans and it seemed tough to get it off its feet really. I tried grouping with anyone my first weeks back to the game, friends I had in Aurora, M and NM. I just wanted to see where the server was, which allies had grown ect. It became obvious to me quickly though that some people wanted to hold a grudge on me, and I can understand why. I dont expect people to forgive things that EA did mainly to their friends or themselves. These past offenses are what fule an ongoing hate, and I can accept that. In short, after trying to mess around at sieges like Innadrill where Devil's edge alliance had their own castle and NM came to 'have fun' and cleared the field but didnt hit the castle, it was obvious what was going on to me. They said were attacking everyone but were just as friendly running around with SVPs too. I guess these were allies in destroying EA after I had left. So it seemed like if I brought my own force to Oren or Innadrill (since a small clan or two I could make couldnt take NM) that theyd all still come together to keep it. So with Aden, Oren, Innadril, and Giran out of the question.. we formed in a moments notice our ally to go at Aden to "just have fun too." That upset was the catalyst which brought this whole war into play. Whether what I said was assumptions or truth doesnt really matter though. These are things of past and not the basis for anything Synergy stands for. But just to show an explanation of why we joined with M. I enjoyed my times with M very much, and we had many great PvPs on both sides. I dont regret anytime being in there, and appreciate not only Linda and Lickn's time as leaders and friends, but the entire alliance. We accomplished a lot together, and met plenty of great people there too.

So then, why Synergy? Well, my observations on this PKing war is it was getting too old. People talk plenty about "there will always be 2 sides," and in this sense that was very true. This war drew some people from each alliance away, and others closer. But the real problem was what it was doing to the rest of the alliances and the server as a whole. Other larger alliances were too scared to get involved in the seriousness of this and played almost as if that wasnt an exsistence they could involve themselves in. The mechanics of the war also bored a lot of players from both sides. Intensive greifing on eachother and serious insults to really try to 'hurt' your enemy. I mean hurting their spirits, getting them to quit and say 'you win, you beat me.' This is the idea behind endless assaults on the enemy. Not having legitimate PvP, but instead, gaining advantage at any cost just to "keep score" and have an idea of who is the 'best.' Unfortunately, being the best doesnt always bring out the best in people.

But back to the question, Synergy was developed to not only hopefully change the idea of that war, but to change the general culture of PvP. Synergy was created in idea to remain small. Keeping small would be a good idea for us, because it is made up of PvP veterans of gustin. Oz and Aurora left M with me, and members left NM to join under my clan. It wasnt easy for either side to do. But we hoped for something better with no hard feelings. Weve remained on that 3 clan size, and Ive had many players asking to join, and many clans asking to join. We do recruit, and invite very small. We dont 'test' our players as warlord asked, we typically invite as a friend of a member or someone we believe can be a good member for the alliance. People has said were neutral but thats not the case. Our idea is to be independant. Which means, we operate on our own for PvP or PvE with the exception of friends here and there.

Synergy is strong from the go sure, because of the people weve recruited. But it has a lot of work still, and its only a couple weeks old. I was hoping more alliances would want to fight on their own. Too often do I see people running into a problem, and instead of looking within themselves(their alliance) for an answer, they look elsewhere for someone to answer it for them. I think this is a lazy form of solving your problems, an easy out with not much reward. But maybe its the most rewarding thing in life for others, I could be crazy. This idea was perhaps a way to solve the dilemma of the omnipresent '2 sides to every fight.'

But everyone is calling out Synergy as a new EA, and for that reason I never made a post before when we created it at scratch. I feel my alliance is strong enough with the 3 clans we have now, and trying to build up more would only tear us down more down the line. It allows us to PvP with others maybe slowly now, but I see lots of the alliances in good spirits and Im sure we will have much more on our hands later. Now I dont expect every alliance to do that, and I know they wont. In the phrase 'staying out of politics' thats been coined off me its in reference to teaming up with others to win a fight. For example, we signed to attack Gludio this past weekend. Tsin asked the day before and I said yes well be coming alone with 4-5 groups. So we did come with 4 groups. Hours before the siege 2 other alliances told me they were planning to attack and asked if I was planning to take the castle? I told them we only had one clan signed and didnt plan to take it, just to go and have fun. He said his alliances wanted to capture it and I said we will fire in all directions, were there simply to have fun PvPing, good luck with it. I saw they never came but thats the general idea of staying out of politics. I could inturn say oh sure we can work together and expect his allegiance down the line. A lazy form of victory for a short term effect of 'fun'... I dont look down or even think its bad for some allies to work together. What I dont like is when allies work together at any cost for victory or domination over an enemy. It offers no real competition, and thats really what upset people about EA so much. Going head to head with Nightmare even now for example, itd take some real miracle work to win a fight being so outnumbered. Thats not to say we wouldnt do it for the sheer enjoyment of PvP, but were a new alliance and I dont think were ready for that. The officers of Synergy agreed in making it that we wouldnt siege NM or Ms castles since the both had just lost many of their allies. As DTF and WLE as a witness, you can see itd be tough for a small alliance to take greater numbers on a siege field even with level advantage due to the outlasting endurance you need in a siege. It will take a lot of work for us to pull that off, and I think we can, but our ambition to succeed with eachother will drive us to victory, not a nearby ally with the same interests. So I understand why people think Im trying to recreate EA, having been a leader for awhile in its time, but I dont see how you can draw a realistic conclusion from our current structure.

As for the recent developements, it seems a lot are bonding together to attack us. Even while fighting large numbers at Gludio, we had not only Nightmare come at us with 2 groups, but SW and SVP brought 2 groups as well. Each with their own reasons I suppose. Weve been attacking Triz and the RC from the moment the ally started, because Triz stole +7 dual SLS from one of our reds. On the siege date SW killed one of our reds who didnt PK or harm any of them, just because he was passing. When he hid away laughing about it, they went and killed a group of theirs in AL. Sounds pretty fair to me really. I dont involve myself with reds that I have no business knowing why they are red. Apparently one of my members said they were KOS, but if you listen to the member of each clan, I guess I should kill DTF because 5dollars said we got owned at the siege and were a bunch of losers. Even Fusion is upset because we killed one of their members while they were in M. Yes, we will PK anybody if its warranted, we ARE independant. Soutif ran in towards the 75 quest box from the raid mobs and was killed before I even knew he was there. Weve PKed M, NM, and neutrals for doing that. If you wanna get credit for other peoples work, you should ask them before hand if its ok to do so. I dont mind people looting it who can actually kill it with their clan/ally, but 90% of the time its someone weve never heard of from Forgetten Heroes or something. In short, if clans like this are angry and want to fight, then why do they all bond together? Is it really necessary? If you blind yourselves saying were power driven, then Id take a look at the siege fields and castle owners. If you have a nice castle and people arent trying to take it, that should probally tell you something.

But theres still people out there with heart to fight and accomplish things on their own. Much respects to Solidarity for PvPing us more than once these past weeks, no matter what the reason was you came and fought as a team. We enjoy the casual PvP and not having to hunt eachother down. :p

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anyone got the cliffnotes?

[LilLyd]

Kami wanted a small powerful alliance to bring peace and justice to the gustin server and to put a stop to all the gankings and have everyone abide by how he feels PvP in the game should be done, and thus is the birth of the Synergy alliance. With his allpowerful force he will re-write the way everyone on the server has ever or ever will PvP.

[AURAGIN]

Its funny how even cliffnotes can have an opinion....j/k lyd, seemed to be very well written. Not to mention least you read it unlike others who just bash with out reading.

[TTaz]

I was just going to say, "Kami wants to have fun". Now where is my group hug people :eek:

[MrsD]

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On the siege date SW killed one of our reds who didnt PK or harm any of them, just because he was passing


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Hell Yeah,,and everyone belive that right ???

One guy in SW has been Pked 7 times just cause you didn't like something....after that Sw had problems with Synergy...
Mrsdoubt has been killed in FG too,,for no reason seems,,even asked for an answer which still have to get,,,
I guess you know why we showed up to the siege now....
even the most carebear in our clan hates you ! Jeez mate ask yourself why!

Anyway...i agree that's all propaganda... Gogo Kami Gogo,,,
You r the best...

PS. Don't know how OZ possibly stay close to Synergy...I thought my friends in OZ had more goodsense thou

[ionopet]

How about you suggest to danny that you ally/clan war us so you can let out some of that anger on us.

[CharmedOneAlso]

how about Oz leaves youre allience and joines oures?

[ionopet]

I fail to see how that would help MrsDoubtfire's anger at Kami though

[MrsD]

[ QUOTE ]
How about you suggest to danny that you ally/clan war us so you can let out some of that anger on us.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sorry Who are you?

[ionopet]

hint: this forum doesnt allow 4 letter nicknames.

[CharmedOneAlso]

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I fail to see how that would help MrsDoubtfire's anger at Kami though

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and i dont see warring his other friends would help =(

[arHang]

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How about you suggest to danny that you ally/clan war us so you can let out some of that anger on us.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sorry Who are you?

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Im pretty sure you are new to L2 =.=

[MrsD]

[ QUOTE ]
hint: this forum doesnt allow 4 letter nicknames.

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Really doesn't it?

[LilLyd]

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hint: this forum doesnt allow 4 letter nicknames.

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Really doesn't it?

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:D

[ionopet]

didn't when i signed up!

[PrivatePancak3s]

i have no hard feelings towards ionononononono or theseus... gl guys :o

[LickNMeLollypop]

[ QUOTE ]
i have no hard feelings towards ionononononono or theseus... gl guys :o

[/ QUOTE ]

you carebear!

[BeerDeadClam]

The only part of this I dissagree with is the Gludio siege. I was told by Republic and Koga that you threatened KOS if they showed up at your siege. That's the ONLY reason they didn't go to Gludio and chose Innadril instead.

As far as the friendly PvP, I believe that, I've experienced it. A couple of Synergy members attacked our reds at dev castle, so we killed them. It ended there, no griefing, no hunting, etc. It's nice to have PvP like this again.

[Choco]

[ QUOTE ]
The only part of this I dissagree with is the Gludio siege. I was told by Republic and Koga that you threatened KOS if they showed up at your siege. That's the ONLY reason they didn't go to Gludio and chose Innadril instead.

As far as the friendly PvP, I believe that, I've experienced it. A couple of Synergy members attacked our reds at dev castle, so we killed them. It ended there, no griefing, no hunting, etc. It's nice to have PvP like this again.

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Ya, I hadn't heard about any kos threat to koga or republic at gludio. Is that true?

As far as I know, Kami and company came for fun pvp...most of it on the battlefield so not so much xp loss for either side. It wasn't a carebear siege, but it was really fun. And there wasn't much trash talking from either side. They were vastly outnumbered and fought from beginning to end.

In any case, Gludio would have supported the 'Synergy just wants to PvP' position.

[Morianne]

About this gear issue .....

I guess NM have it to protect ourselfes from people joining, getting upgrades and then leaves after a month.

But when it comes down to Iono and Theseus they def. deserve the gear they have.
It's a judgement call from our leader when a guy decide to leave our clan.

[LilLyd]

[ QUOTE ]
The only part of this I dissagree with is the Gludio siege. I was told by Republic and Koga that you threatened KOS if they showed up at your siege. That's the ONLY reason they didn't go to Gludio and chose Innadril instead.

As far as the friendly PvP, I believe that, I've experienced it. A couple of Synergy members attacked our reds at dev castle, so we killed them. It ended there, no griefing, no hunting, etc. It's nice to have PvP like this again.

[/ QUOTE ]

:o

Thats crazy, because kami just finished telling me on MSN that the reason that they started KOSing Triz is that she attacked their reds and got a drop off them. +7 Dual SLS*Tsu I believe? So its OK for Synergy to attack other people's reds, but if you turn the tables its bad ok?

[MugiMugi]

go do some laundries ...jesus~

[PrivatePancak3s]

shes at work and so am i

[kutjr]

[ QUOTE ]
The only part of this I dissagree with is the Gludio siege. I was told by Republic and Koga that you threatened KOS if they showed up at your siege. That's the ONLY reason they didn't go to Gludio and chose Innadril instead.


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No idea about Koga, but the reason Republic attacked Innadril instead of Gludio was, 4-5 parties of 70+ people running around on the field would make for some good pvp, but bad sieging.

If the goal is to actually take the castle, then showing under those circumstances wouldnt make a lot of sense.

[BudLight]

makes sense to me kut.

BudLight
Incubo

[Nostrova]

[ QUOTE ]
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The only part of this I dissagree with is the Gludio siege. I was told by Republic and Koga that you threatened KOS if they showed up at your siege. That's the ONLY reason they didn't go to Gludio and chose Innadril instead.

As far as the friendly PvP, I believe that, I've experienced it. A couple of Synergy members attacked our reds at dev castle, so we killed them. It ended there, no griefing, no hunting, etc. It's nice to have PvP like this again.

[/ QUOTE ]

:o

Thats crazy, because kami just finished telling me on MSN that the reason that they started KOSing Triz is that she attacked their reds and got a drop off them. +7 Dual SLS*Tsu I believe? So its OK for Synergy to attack other people's reds, but if you turn the tables its bad ok?

[/ QUOTE ]

Regarding the bloody duals :
There was a farmer crew in that cata which was trained by KOL yes. Krytikal and his boating crew shows up and kills the KOL ppl, including a heaven member (at that time) but for some reason Krytikal doesnt pay attention to the prophet standing there. True the Heaven member was offered a rez and cash for the inconvinience, but to be honest who wants some cash when ya have just been ganked by someone ya dont even like in the first place. Now krytikal kills the red of the red BD (ultimusmortis or sum like that) and he drops quite a good load of stuff and the prophet picks up the duals.

Thats the story plain and simple.
And the duals were not given back due to all the random pks that had been made towards our at that time existing alliance and as Krytikal himself said on vent : I deserved to loose the duals for my stupidity for killing of the red on my BD with a seemed to be afk prophet.

[Choco]

Makes sense to me too.

Recent Gludio and Dion sieges had been primarily Koga coming to pvp, and not a lot of castle action.

The Gludio siege with Synergy was basically the same, but a few more folks and higher levels.

Dion was a real siege.

[Kittyhunter]

[ QUOTE ]
The only part of this I dissagree with is the Gludio siege. I was told by Republic and Koga that you threatened KOS if they showed up at your siege. That's the ONLY reason they didn't go to Gludio and chose Innadril instead.


[/ QUOTE ]

This is not true, we were only there to pvp/fun, never had intention to take castle. Our targets were anyone on the siege field and KOS was never threatened to either side of the siege.

As for all the ppl shouting "propaganda". Kami is just trying let some ppl know what Synergy is about. I just really want to see some more constructive posts instead of flames. the boards has been slow lately.

[jijio]

lawl, what happend to H

couldn''t handle getting rolled all over the map i guess!

[Choco]

and, um, back to flames.

[Downiejin]

[ QUOTE ]
The only part of this I dissagree with is the Gludio siege. I was told by Republic and Koga that you threatened KOS if they showed up at your siege. That's the ONLY reason they didn't go to Gludio and chose Innadril instead.


[/ QUOTE ]

Thats not true. The KOGA leader spoke to me only, and I never said anything about KOSing. I said wed go to the siege field and fight on our own. Why do ppl lie :X

[Dweebie]

Yeah I first of all want to say that we went to Gludio siege with the sole purpose of pvp and having fun, which we had. Clean fights on both sides which was nice. And I also must say that Kami did make a great post about where synergy stands, I personally don't care about who i need to pvp, or fighting outnumbered. This game is meant for pvp, thats why sometimes shiet happens. I don't believe this game is a mean to accumulate hate toward a certain ppl altho ppl can be ruthless towards their enemies. There are ppl that i truly like to fight and some that i have to fight due to the political stands our alliance is taking. PvP incidents occur all over the game, if we all have to take it very seriously, then we will prolly have everyone on KOS at one point. Either way, have fun, GL to everyone

[Downiejin]

[ QUOTE ]
Kami wanted a small powerful alliance to bring peace and justice to the gustin server and to put a stop to all the gankings and have everyone abide by how he feels PvP in the game should be done, and thus is the birth of the Synergy alliance. With his allpowerful force he will re-write the way everyone on the server has ever or ever will PvP.

[/ QUOTE ]

Please dont make a mockery of my ally. For quite sometime people have spoke of making more than just 2 sides and WHY cant we do it?! Were trying something else. Im sorry you see our 3 clans as such a threat that youll accept anyone to fight not for fun, but for simple victory. I mean, as NM is with just the alliance, not even including SVP, its probally the strongest single alliance on a siege field. But then you can throw in SVP, and then throw in your ex-enemy/new friendly clan because...? You have your way of playing, and were going to try ours.

[woot123]

[ QUOTE ]
All these words and rumors flying around about Synergy.. I guess the server wants to know whats going on with our small alliance!

I came back to the gave a few months ago after having taken a decent break. I didnt think Id get back into L2 again because I was let down about C3 so much but my friends kept me playing. The closest being the core friends Ive made from Aurora back when we played together in EA. Now it might seems strange why I make this alliance in the middle of the war with NM and M?

Having a small alliance has always been an idea of mine. It was something I wanted to do with Aurora and Oz guys before we even joined up with M. But I was harassed by a lot of people, as were members from those clans and it seemed tough to get it off its feet really. I tried grouping with anyone my first weeks back to the game, friends I had in Aurora, M and NM. I just wanted to see where the server was, which allies had grown ect. It became obvious to me quickly though that some people wanted to hold a grudge on me, and I can understand why. I dont expect people to forgive things that EA did mainly to their friends or themselves. These past offenses are what fule an ongoing hate, and I can accept that. In short, after trying to mess around at sieges like Innadrill where Devil's edge alliance had their own castle and NM came to 'have fun' and cleared the field but didnt hit the castle, it was obvious what was going on to me. They said were attacking everyone but were just as friendly running around with SVPs too. I guess these were allies in destroying EA after I had left. So it seemed like if I brought my own force to Oren or Innadrill (since a small clan or two I could make couldnt take NM) that theyd all still come together to keep it. So with Aden, Oren, Innadril, and Giran out of the question.. we formed in a moments notice our ally to go at Aden to "just have fun too." That upset was the catalyst which brought this whole war into play. Whether what I said was assumptions or truth doesnt really matter though. These are things of past and not the basis for anything Synergy stands for. But just to show an explanation of why we joined with M. I enjoyed my times with M very much, and we had many great PvPs on both sides. I dont regret anytime being in there, and appreciate not only Linda and Lickn's time as leaders and friends, but the entire alliance. We accomplished a lot together, and met plenty of great people there too.

So then, why Synergy? Well, my observations on this PKing war is it was getting too old. People talk plenty about "there will always be 2 sides," and in this sense that was very true. This war drew some people from each alliance away, and others closer. But the real problem was what it was doing to the rest of the alliances and the server as a whole. Other larger alliances were too scared to get involved in the seriousness of this and played almost as if that wasnt an exsistence they could involve themselves in. The mechanics of the war also bored a lot of players from both sides. Intensive greifing on eachother and serious insults to really try to 'hurt' your enemy. I mean hurting their spirits, getting them to quit and say 'you win, you beat me.' This is the idea behind endless assaults on the enemy. Not having legitimate PvP, but instead, gaining advantage at any cost just to "keep score" and have an idea of who is the 'best.' Unfortunately, being the best doesnt always bring out the best in people.

But back to the question, Synergy was developed to not only hopefully change the idea of that war, but to change the general culture of PvP. Synergy was created in idea to remain small. Keeping small would be a good idea for us, because it is made up of PvP veterans of gustin. Oz and Aurora left M with me, and members left NM to join under my clan. It wasnt easy for either side to do. But we hoped for something better with no hard feelings. Weve remained on that 3 clan size, and Ive had many players asking to join, and many clans asking to join. We do recruit, and invite very small. We dont 'test' our players as warlord asked, we typically invite as a friend of a member or someone we believe can be a good member for the alliance. People has said were neutral but thats not the case. Our idea is to be independant. Which means, we operate on our own for PvP or PvE with the exception of friends here and there.

Synergy is strong from the go sure, because of the people weve recruited. But it has a lot of work still, and its only a couple weeks old. I was hoping more alliances would want to fight on their own. Too often do I see people running into a problem, and instead of looking within themselves(their alliance) for an answer, they look elsewhere for someone to answer it for them. I think this is a lazy form of solving your problems, an easy out with not much reward. But maybe its the most rewarding thing in life for others, I could be crazy. This idea was perhaps a way to solve the dilemma of the omnipresent '2 sides to every fight.'

But everyone is calling out Synergy as a new EA, and for that reason I never made a post before when we created it at scratch. I feel my alliance is strong enough with the 3 clans we have now, and trying to build up more would only tear us down more down the line. It allows us to PvP with others maybe slowly now, but I see lots of the alliances in good spirits and Im sure we will have much more on our hands later. Now I dont expect every alliance to do that, and I know they wont. In the phrase 'staying out of politics' thats been coined off me its in reference to teaming up with others to win a fight. For example, we signed to attack Gludio this past weekend. Tsin asked the day before and I said yes well be coming alone with 4-5 groups. So we did come with 4 groups. Hours before the siege 2 other alliances told me they were planning to attack and asked if I was planning to take the castle? I told them we only had one clan signed and didnt plan to take it, just to go and have fun. He said his alliances wanted to capture it and I said we will fire in all directions, were there simply to have fun PvPing, good luck with it. I saw they never came but thats the general idea of staying out of politics. I could inturn say oh sure we can work together and expect his allegiance down the line. A lazy form of victory for a short term effect of 'fun'... I dont look down or even think its bad for some allies to work together. What I dont like is when allies work together at any cost for victory or domination over an enemy. It offers no real competition, and thats really what upset people about EA so much. Going head to head with Nightmare even now for example, itd take some real miracle work to win a fight being so outnumbered. Thats not to say we wouldnt do it for the sheer enjoyment of PvP, but were a new alliance and I dont think were ready for that. The officers of Synergy agreed in making it that we wouldnt siege NM or Ms castles since the both had just lost many of their allies. As DTF and WLE as a witness, you can see itd be tough for a small alliance to take greater numbers on a siege field even with level advantage due to the outlasting endurance you need in a siege. It will take a lot of work for us to pull that off, and I think we can, but our ambition to succeed with eachother will drive us to victory, not a nearby ally with the same interests. So I understand why people think Im trying to recreate EA, having been a leader for awhile in its time, but I dont see how you can draw a realistic conclusion from our current structure.

As for the recent developements, it seems a lot are bonding together to attack us. Even while fighting large numbers at Gludio, we had not only Nightmare come at us with 2 groups, but SW and SVP brought 2 groups as well. Each with their own reasons I suppose. Weve been attacking Triz and the RC from the moment the ally started, because Triz stole +7 dual SLS from one of our reds. On the siege date SW killed one of our reds who didnt PK or harm any of them, just because he was passing. When he hid away laughing about it, they went and killed a group of theirs in AL. Sounds pretty fair to me really. I dont involve myself with reds that I have no business knowing why they are red. Apparently one of my members said they were KOS, but if you listen to the member of each clan, I guess I should kill DTF because 5dollars said we got owned at the siege and were a bunch of losers. Even Fusion is upset because we killed one of their members while they were in M. Yes, we will PK anybody if its warranted, we ARE independant. Soutif ran in towards the 75 quest box from the raid mobs and was killed before I even knew he was there. Weve PKed M, NM, and neutrals for doing that. If you wanna get credit for other peoples work, you should ask them before hand if its ok to do so. I dont mind people looting it who can actually kill it with their clan/ally, but 90% of the time its someone weve never heard of from Forgetten Heroes or something. In short, if clans like this are angry and want to fight, then why do they all bond together? Is it really necessary? If you blind yourselves saying were power driven, then Id take a look at the siege fields and castle owners. If you have a nice castle and people arent trying to take it, that should probally tell you something.

But theres still people out there with heart to fight and accomplish things on their own. Much respects to Solidarity for PvPing us more than once these past weeks, no matter what the reason was you came and fought as a team. We enjoy the casual PvP and not having to hunt eachother down. :p

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must you be so long winded? The eyeball must readjust an average of 20000 times a day do read a computer screen. Must...........rest.........................

[Downiejin]

You lack discipline!

[vipjd]

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How about you suggest to danny that you ally/clan war us so you can let out some of that anger on us.

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Sorry Who are you?

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Im pretty sure you are new to L2 =.=

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[woot123]

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You lack discipline!

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I do not lack discipline. I am just lazy sometimes.

[vipjd]

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How about you suggest to danny that you ally/clan war us so you can let out some of that anger on us.

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Sorry Who are you?

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Im pretty sure you are new to L2 =.=

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[/ QUOTE ] If you call been playing since beta (new to l2) then maybe your right!!!!!!!! ir jd

[SeeLanaa]

You can name us if you have to Kami, and you're forgetting that in making your 3rd side, you actually destroyed one of the 2 former sides, making again the server... 2 sided (in a way). I'm not blaming LT, but should M have chose not to support synergy, things might have been different. Your "3rd side" was biased, i'm sorry to say so.

[Dagew]

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I hear you man. I have no reason to KOS NM though. Like I said that deal with Triz.. :p I dont prefer ganking, but thats what youll get in any ongoing fight(war). I know theres a few in our ally that just love to go out and do that though, and some for you too. Its cool, thats the game. I could sit happy just doing PvPs, but its hard for that to happen with collections of different feelings from various people.

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Yea thats true. And I tried to explain namely 2 of the people we saw coming to try to fight us this weekend, the reasons are pretty pathetic IMO. :/ But even worse to side up with someone else to fight us, like were forcing them. We PKed one fusion who PKed back. And the SW attacked one of our reds for no reason first. I havent KOSed either of them either... so to play me out like a villain that forced them is kinda ******ed.

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Let me ask you this, did you make any attempt to contact me about it? Being Triz's leader and all would of been better for you to talk with me then kill an RC member for something that happened back in Heavens. I was on a lot last week. I check my mail ingame too a lot.

Don't make yourself out to be the good guy, you attacked first. Who are you trying to kid, most of us see through your crap. You're just trying to get people to emphasize with you.

Bottom line is that is just an excuse to try and justify yourself. You probably had every intention of going after us. An intelligent person would of tried talking with one of the leaders/officers instead of going out just pking tagged members. I would of been willing to talk with you if you had messaged me about an issue. But you wanted war so you have war. I'm glad I really didn't want to not be able to kill your members. Too much hatred over the years of fighting. But, i'm still a reasonable guy.

-Erik

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You say its an excuse to attack but we saw it the same way. Are you saying you or anyone else didnt know Triz was being killed or shouting in town about taking swords from Oz before he was tagged?

[LilLyd]

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Kami wanted a small powerful alliance to bring peace and justice to the gustin server and to put a stop to all the gankings and have everyone abide by how he feels PvP in the game should be done, and thus is the birth of the Synergy alliance. With his allpowerful force he will re-write the way everyone on the server has ever or ever will PvP.

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Please dont make a mockery of my ally. For quite sometime people have spoke of making more than just 2 sides and WHY cant we do it?! Were trying something else. Im sorry you see our 3 clans as such a threat that youll accept anyone to fight not for fun, but for simple victory. I mean, as NM is with just the alliance, not even including SVP, its probally the strongest single alliance on a siege field. But then you can throw in SVP, and then throw in your ex-enemy/new friendly clan because...? You have your way of playing, and were going to try ours.

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Its not I who am making a mockery of your ally Kami. ;)

[RILClJuice]

well all these rumors on EA reforming have definetly caught the eye and ear of old school AEA guys.....Again kami..you contiue to screw ppl....God man your about 100x worse than bell...at least he acted somewhat adult about it and not like a 12 year old kid....Ill see you around I have raised a secret char while you all thought I was dormant.....you'll find out soon......may restart forsaken...

Peace, Juice

[Downiejin]

Coming from a guy who use to throw out personal insults in frustration. Forsaken cant be itself without Oldey! I hear hes got his own big happy alliance on Teon. Thanks for your opinion, and me.. screwing ppl 100x worse than Bel. How so? And I act 12.. funny coming from you..

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Let me ask you this, did you make any attempt to contact me about it? Being Triz's leader and all would of been better for you to talk with me then kill an RC member for something that happened back in Heavens. I was on a lot last week. I check my mail ingame too a lot.
-Erik

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Mmmmh why anytime ask if you are allowed to kill anyone?
Thuja got never any pms/mails if anyone is allowed to kill me 8[
IM REALLY SAD NOW!
But i personally allow you to go on ganking me ;)

Stop politics and have FUN plz
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[Dagew]

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You say its an excuse to attack but we saw it the same way. Are you saying you or anyone else didnt know Triz was being killed or shouting in town about taking swords from Oz before he was tagged?

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I didn't know till I read this post. However the intelligent thing to do is to talk with the leader of that clan. Most other clans have worked with us if there has been an issue with a member who has been tagged. But you are better then that according to you, because your actions show you'd rather pk them then try and work things out with their leader. Goodjob Kami, your are a genious and a role model! I want to be just as smart as you and pk people rather then try and work things out. Kamisamma for the win!

-Erik

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I didnt say or imply that Id rather be ignorant and kill them. After all this time why should I think for one second you care? Im suprised you never heard anything about WHERE he was from or WHAT he did or WHY he was being killed each day, because he was. Dont try to turn my words into something theyre not.

[LonJeremy]

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I didnt say or imply that Id rather be ignorant and kill them. After all this time why should I think for one second you care? Im suprised you never heard anything about WHERE he was from or WHAT he did or WHY he was being killed each day, because he was. Dont try to turn my words into something theyre not.

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I'm sorry for having missed all this, but does Triz own the prophet who took the duals or did he get them or something?

[MasterOfKittens]

Whats wrong with it!

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