Request: Shop Names Premade

[Aurim]

To actually get use out of the /findprivatestore function, I'd like to install the idea of having shop names PREMADE to the items being sold bought. Lets say I am selling full plate armor, animal bones, and a necklace of black ore, shop title simply reads:

<Private Store - Sell>
Animal Bone, Full Plate Armor, Necklace of Black Ore

Also, shops should update on their own to take out sold items away from the title. Someone buys the Full Plate Armor:

<Private Store - Sell>
Animal Bone, Necklace of Black Ore

Enchanted items, say I'm selling +3 Nightmare boots unsealed to heavy:

<Private Store - Sell>
Animal Bone, Necklace of Black Ore, Boots of Nightmare (+3)(Heavy)

I know it would be a little lengthy on shop titles, but I'd prefer it to the current, "LOOK ME" and not having any coordination on buy/selling items. Thoughts?

[Elrohir]

I've always liked this idea.

[Champa]

either that or fix the /findprivatestore, so it searches after things /inside/ the shops.

[Wyzeguy]

But but then we'd not be able to put soul ore in with a sign that says crystals. :eek:
Or a bone helm with a sign that says brig helm. :eek:

[Champa]

oh noes!

i didn't even think of that. this would solve the problem with shop scams too :)

[Darian_Kain]

but then this idea would stop as most players call it. Shop pvp. Easiest way to stop a scammer is not to get scammed.

[Champa]

that's true. but i don't like the idea that you can get scammed.

[Darian_Kain]

only those who are in a hurry and do not pay attention are the ones who get scammed. And yes Ive been scammed by new scams at least 5 times. My fault cause I didn't pay enough attention. One of which was early in c3 when I first got my A grade weapon.... bought 10k in ngss thinking that the person was selling a-ss

[bekkar]

Some sort of generated list would be very nice, both for the /find and for general browsing. I couldn't care less about the scam issues, but this is a general quality-of-play issue that I'd like to see handled more cleanly.

[Schmusekatze]

Very nice idea, indeed. It would not only get rid of shop scamming (at least that kind of scamming. There would still be the ones selling 650 D-crystals for 6325a each).

It would also stop people from using "@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@" as a shop title, which does not include ANY useful information and clutters up the screen in a very unnecessary way. Same goes for all other silly shop signs of course.

Silly Kitten

[Varaya]

Only problem I see is that a generated title like the

"Animal Bone, Necklace of Black Ore, Boots of Nightmare (+3)(Heavy)"

mentioned in the OP would not fit into the space available for the title. And that is only for three sold items, dwarves can sell four. In C4, people can sell even more. So the titles would have to use abbreviations, like "ABone,BO,NM Bts+3 hvy" or something like that. Actually I wonder what people will use as shop title in C4 when they can sell up to - what was it - 9 items per shop? Probably only "have a look" or "all kinds of stuff" :)

[Taraza]

I just like the idea of /findprivatestore searching the actual sell/buy/craft items, but leave sell/buy/craft shop titles the way they are.

[Dan_Faizer]

Mabye, more than set premade shop names, i think that /findprivatestore should be improved and be able to find the item name that ppl is selling/buying and mark sellers/buyers name.

[Croohm]

IMO skip the server performace killing private shops and make good auction system instead.

[Assez]

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IMO skip the server performace killing private shops and make good auction system instead.

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hell no ! That's what i prefer in L2 right now. Buying and selling is the funniest part of the game for me.

Some people like pvp.
Some other like hunting raid bosses
... or just spending time chatting and hitting the same mobs in the very same room of a dungeon for hours.
... or harrassing/ training/ pking bots
... or whatever !...

As for me, the current shop system is really great for players who like to spend time checking each shop to find a good deal and resell at fair price. I like this more than any other activity in this game.

[Rhina]

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Only problem I see is that a generated title like the

"Animal Bone, Necklace of Black Ore, Boots of Nightmare (+3)(Heavy)"

mentioned in the OP would not fit into the space available for the title. And that is only for three sold items, dwarves can sell four. In C4, people can sell even more. So the titles would have to use abbreviations, like "ABone,BO,NM Bts+3 hvy" or something like that. Actually I wonder what people will use as shop title in C4 when they can sell up to - what was it - 9 items per shop? Probably only "have a look" or "all kinds of stuff" :)

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Don't have the game show the text by default, but shows full text when you highlight a store, or searched items appears when you do a /findprivatestore. Would also get lighter on computer resources, btw :p

[Elrohir]

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IMO skip the server performace killing private shops and make good auction system instead.

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hell no ! That's what i prefer in L2 right now. Buying and selling is the funniest part of the game for me.

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Ditto. I love shopping, buy and selling. Trying to find the perfect spot to sell some overpriced gear is becoming more and more fun for me.

Have the game generate the buy/sell tags and give the player the option of displaying them or not. Having to hover the mouse over each and every shop would be extremely annoying but giving the user the ability to hide them all if they are "just passing through" or doing some casual shopping would work.

[Champa]

varaya has a good point. if we didn't get to expand our shops in c4, i'd say "make the shop description taller", but it would just be out of control in c4.

as for the scamming. i haven't been scammed once. but my concern is with lowbies who buy a bone helmet thinking it's a brig helmet and such. higher level players are usually more alert, but occasionally buys the wrong consumable item, which is no big deal usually. (but i still spit on the scammers).

[beanstation]

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IMO skip the server performace killing private shops and make good auction system instead.

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hell no ! That's what i prefer in L2 right now. Buying and selling is the funniest part of the game for me.

As for me, the current shop system is really great for players who like to spend time checking each shop to find a good deal and resell at fair price. I like this more than any other activity in this game.

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Yup, I'm into wholesale/retail. Made tons of adena finding bargains and reselling. Got stuck with overstock a few times too. All part of the fun.

I would like to see the command shortened though "/findprivatestore" to "/fps" or something. Makes me nuts typing that over and over, especially when I fat finger it a few times too. :D

[Nanashi_Naomhan]

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I would like to see the command shortened though "/findprivatestore" to "/fps" or something. Makes me nuts typing that over and over, especially when I fat finger it a few times too.

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i suggested that soooo long ago
only have to change 1 string of code :/

[Leonidar]

i got bored and thought this would be nice to. Why not only be able to select the shop and a litle frame pops up showing what he have. running around in giran trying to get passed 100 of small dwarfs to get to a shop only to see its not what you whanted is getting old :p

Why not? (http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3600/whynot4ei.jpg)

[Iriden]

/sign for the idea

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Only problem I see is that a generated title like the

"Animal Bone, Necklace of Black Ore, Boots of Nightmare (+3)(Heavy)"

mentioned in the OP would not fit into the space available for the title. And that is only for three sold items, dwarves can sell four. In C4, people can sell even more. So the titles would have to use abbreviations, like "ABone,BO,NM Bts+3 hvy" or something like that. Actually I wonder what people will use as shop title in C4 when they can sell up to - what was it - 9 items per shop? Probably only "have a look" or "all kinds of stuff" :)

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this can be easily solved. all the coder has to do is to add new line as the title gets too long. like:

Private Shop - Sell
Robe of Nightmare, Brigandine Helmet,
Stone of Purity, Sword of Damascus

[XxevilxX]

I like the idea, (i think it was already said) with how you can toggle shop titles on and off if you were just passing through.

And, for the premade titles i think it could work like this:
If someone has just animal bones in their shop, the title will read:

Animal bone (# of bones in brackets next to it). Then as more items are added first the number of each item will be removed, and eventually abreviations/acronyms will be added, then further compressed abreviations/acronyms will be addedif need be. Plus, if it were to go over 4 items a second row will be made, and will start over again from full w/ number -> full -> shortened -> further shortened as necessary.

However, to avoid the /findprivatestore problem we have now, it will search for the item inside the shops instead of the title. And while we're at it, change it to /find for typing ease :D