Sweep Causes Crit Errors for everyone!

[stubbybignose]

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OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
CPU: GenuineIntel Unknown processor @ 2401 MHz with 2046MB RAM
Video: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra (8198)

General protection fault!

History: NConsoleWnd::EndSystemMessageParam <- TEXT("SystemMessagePacket") <- UNetworkHandler::Tick <- Function Name=SystemMessagePa <- UGameEngine::Tick <- UpdateWorld <- MainLoop

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So I am trying to play with c4 and using my box accounts. I have two clients running on my computer, and two others on two separate computers next to me. After one pull, three of the four clients crit out, as well as members of my party.

Not quite sure what is going on here, but this is a problem that needs to be addressed. This is making the game unplayable, having half the party vanish after every pull.

[stubbybignose]

Further testing indicates that this happens when I sweep a spoiled mob, when the party distribution is on turn only.

[Spudnik]

hm. mine always happen at random.

are u sure this is the exact cause for you?

[Skyler]

Parties I've been in have all randomly crashed a few people at a time on completely different occasions.

Sometimes it's targetting a new mob, sometimes a mob spawning, sometimes clicking to move somewhere. Usually 3+ people crash at the exact same time with exact same error.

Happened a huge amount in a few of the new C4 areas.

[stubbybignose]

Crit errors do not occur when party loot is set to turn including spoil.

Edit: They still happen.

[Haygole]

I have a crit error every time we spoil more than 1 of anything. Reminds me of the old bug with the mannor system. PLEASE FIX!

side note: I'm updating drivers and such now to see if that may help

[Haygole]

Just to confirm:

I can recreate this crash everytime. Spoil the Akaste Skeleton Soldiers in the coal mines, and every time they spoil 2 antidotes (yay!) instead of 1 somebody in the party poofs. Every time.


Updated all my software, and it still happens.

Details:

OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
CPU: AuthenticAMD Unknown processor @ 2005 MHz with 1534MB RAM
Video: RADEON X850 Series (6505)

General protection fault!

History: NConsoleWnd::EndSystemMessageParam <- TEXT("SystemMessagePacket") <- UNetworkHandler::Tick <- Function Name=SystemMessagePa <- UGameEngine::Tick <- UpdateWorld <- MainLoop

[Bighands]

We had this happen in the Forest of the Dead also. Confirmed.

[KcH]

Its definately something linked with the sweep. When in parties without using the sweep the crit errors are much less frequent. But still they do happen, its just less than with sweep. I am guessing that NC Soft made some changes without actually testting them out on PTS and seeing if things worked, but oh well what can you expect why use a test server for testting, that would be a stupid idea right.

Sorry lack of sleep has put my diplomatic side away, i just find it frustrating that i cant play the game for more than 5 mins before getting that same crit error.

[Hammered]

The fact that the test server had the cats selling all the materials you could ever need would definitely lead to a lack of BountyHunters.

Let's face it, people really only make them to spoil things and when you can buy all the stuff instead, especially with increased adena drops, then the need to play a BH is virtually removed.

Has anyone tried seeding yet to see if this happens with that also?

[Varaya]

Yep, sweep definitely causes problems. We partied yesterday with a BH in group and had several people crash with the above error message all the time when a mob got swept. When the BH left, no crashes at all for the rest of the evening.

Pretty bad, this error. Especially when you have some mobs spawn right on top of you (e.g. Staccato Nobles) and half the party crashes out. Oh, and of course also since the spoils in the new areas are pretty good - top a blades and all that.

[Nanashi_Naomhan]

i beleave this was in the patch notes
"due to the overpowered state of bh's we have raised the chance of a crit error upon sweep to 50%"

[adelheide]

lol yeah, we r pretty overpowerd....

i noticed most of the times just when ppl crashed a strange letter in the sweep message like a @ or (

[Yhulis]

Has anyone noticed if these errors can affect people not within the group? I have been getting crit errors consitantly every half hour or so since C4, and I'm wondering if it has something to do with the people around me... It doesn't seem to be any specific event that triggers it from my end.

[Hammered]

I think this needs a response from NCNA, and quickly.

[Bregolard]

I have 2 accounts. When I ran both accounts last night running C4 software I was crashing a lot. First time was when I connected with second account first one crashed. Then when I got both running one crashed after a few mobs. Then when I got both running again they crashed at the same time with same error messages.

Anyway, I see you are having same problems. I hope this gets fixed soon.

[MerSy]

Yeah, i'm getting the crits too. Also the wierd letters of spoil sometimes. Now we gotta check if we don't crash without spoiling :)

[Ramadear]

Uh response from ncsoft plz? I'm getting the same errors. Hope it doesnt take a WEEK to fix this. I really want to be able to spoil the new areas this weekend.

[Angdil]

Hmm... I spoiled and swept a large number of Harit Matriarchs last night while in a two-man party. No crits. The Harits do not give multiples of any item in sweep, but I did have a number of double-items sweeps (HGS plus Necklace part.) No strange letters on the 'Earned' messages.

[bekkar]

Wonder if third-party clients are crashing too...if not, this would be an interesting opportunity for the anti-bot crew.

[XaenQA]

Sorry for the lack of response.

We are working on a fix and will update you guys as soon as possible.

For now I would avoid sweeping, this is not the long term solution but it does avoid the crash.

Thanks!

[Ramadear]

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Sorry for the lack of response.

We are working on a fix and will update you guys as soon as possible.

For now I would avoid sweeping, this is not the long term solution but it does avoid the crash.

Thanks!

[/ QUOTE ]

Will I be able to sweep before the weekend? I really want to enjoy c4 on saturday and sunday.

[ShiJiaMing]

Not sure if this will help, but it did with me, I just turned off the system message options in game. Go to options, game tab and remove the check mark next to system message. After doing this I was able to play l2 with my clan's BH without anyone in the party getting a crit error.

[stubbybignose]

I tried this (turning off system messages) and it seemed to work ok. However, when I was at the hot springs, when ever I swept the giant spider things and got Mithril ore, my party member critted out (pulled healers out of party so they would stop crashing). I was able to sweep the other mobs in the area without a problem.

[Lersondaya]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
CPU: GenuineIntel Unknown processor @ 2401 MHz with 2046MB RAM
Video: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra (8198)

General protection fault!

History: NConsoleWnd::EndSystemMessageParam <- TEXT("SystemMessagePacket") <- UNetworkHandler::Tick <- Function Name=SystemMessagePa <- UGameEngine::Tick <- UpdateWorld <- MainLoop

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So I am trying to play with c4 and using my box accounts. I have two clients running on my computer, and two others on two separate computers next to me. After one pull, three of the four clients crit out, as well as members of my party.

Not quite sure what is going on here, but this is a problem that needs to be addressed. This is making the game unplayable, having half the party vanish after every pull.

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"No. This is incorrect. Lineage II is perfect. Your problem is client side. Thank you and enjoy playing Lineage II."

[McLuhan]

Appears to be an issue with mobs who spoil stacks of items (>1).

The crash happens when the dwarf sweeps.

The affected client(s) seems to be totally random. Sometimes the dwarf crashes, sometimes not. Sometimes party members crash, sometimes not. Loot distribution does not seem to affect the bug.

[Lersondaya]

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Sorry for the lack of response.

We are working on a fix and will update you guys as soon as possible.

For now I would avoid sweeping, this is not the long term solution but it does avoid the crash.

Thanks!

[/ QUOTE ]

So why, may I ask (I'm seriously not trying to be rude) did you push C4 live, if it diddnt work? :confused:

[aJx]

Yep it happens when you do multiple spoils at once .
Like those spiders in HOT SPRINGS .. .
When you Spoil Mithril Ore and Maj ring gem at same time for example your party crashes.
Need to be fixed very fast plz , i's very annoying .
I was even in duo with a clanmate and i left party everytime for sweep :(

[Rembrandt]

I have solved the problem on my computer.
It seems the critical error is on ATI chipset video card.

How i have solved:

Downloaded specific card drivers, and not the generic catalyst drivers in the ATI website (i have a MSI with ATI chipset, dowloaded the drivers in MSI website).

Instead of install the Catalyst control center, i have installed the old ATI control panel and old specific card drivers (12.2005) and now i have no problems with sweep skill. (maybe is the catalyst control center the problem?)
My wife have the same problem, solved in the same method and now she play fine.

I think u cane solve for now with this method, in the meantime u wait a official patch to solve the crash problem.

Try yourself, it works.

[Stilts]

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Its definately something linked with the sweep. When in parties without using the sweep the crit errors are much less frequent. But still they do happen, its just less than with sweep. I am guessing that NC Soft made some changes without actually testting them out on PTS and seeing if things worked, but oh well what can you expect why use a test server for testting, that would be a stupid idea right.

Sorry lack of sleep has put my diplomatic side away, i just find it frustrating that i cant play the game for more than 5 mins before getting that same crit error.

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People on pts where too busy pking each other and griefing to do any serious testing.

[Skeatisher]

So can we assume by your assinine comment that you were on PTS testing your heart out?

[Fenne_Danja]

Exactly the same error overhere...

[Rhina]

everybody I think... I assume since there was no patch after the downtime, it hasn't been fixed yet? Bah, who cares about bounty hunters anyway, now that you can craft mats with castles or get them with manor system, get higher grade mats with quests, etc etc... They should just delete us altogether and get rid of the pb ~~

[stubbybignose]

I have an NVIDA card, and I have the problem. It is not limited to the ATI chipset.

[CantoScav]

I've just given up. Its not fair to my clan mates to crash them out of game when trying to party. Too bad its the ONLY character I have that can party with them. Guess I get a few weeks off till the braintrust there at NC can fix the problem. Thanks for the wonderful bug, enjoy playing Lineage2!

[Hammered]

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For now I would avoid sweeping........

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks for advising us not to use the only thing that makes it worth having a BountyHunter.

How on earth did you miss this one in your internal testing NCNA? You should have realised that putting the cats on the PTS from the start would have led to a lack of Scavengers/BountyHunters and put testing of this class at the top of YOUR testing list.

So far, the only competent thing with the release of C4 has been the upgrade of the servers.

Not good NCNA, not good at all.

PS. You recommend we avoid sweeping but do you think we should still spoil so we can at least see the nice glowing mob? Just rename the BountyHunter class to AFKShop until you fix this. /sarcasm off

[uNDeRPaNTS_GNoMe]

[ QUOTE ]
Sorry for the lack of response.

We are working on a fix and will update you guys as soon as possible.

For now I would avoid sweeping, this is not the long term solution but it does avoid the crash.

Thanks!

[/ QUOTE ]


Avoid sweeping? Surely you're not serious with this answer??
Your solution is to have the BH's main source of income, sweeping, not used?

Sheer brilliance.

[Splatter]

I thought someone posted that it was how the loot distribution was set that was causing the crash...

[uNDeRPaNTS_GNoMe]

Whatever the cause is he told BH's not to sweep.

Which leads to 2 things.....
1. BH's will now be completely useless until this is fixed and probably won't get grouped unless in a clan and
2. BH's will be losing their primary source of income until it is fixed.

[Bregolard]

Guys please chill out. This ****** me off too, but dang. Obviously the failed pts detection of this bug was related to the free mats given out. Did any of you get on pts and run a BH? I know that I didn't. :o

[Splatter]

No ones mad or upset.... :confused:

[PleChan]

I can announce that this bug hapens for me as well, right now got this useless BH char who can't do a thing....

No not get into parties becose nobody want an BH now as it crash em.

[Nazual]

[ QUOTE ]
Sorry for the lack of response.

We are working on a fix and will update you guys as soon as possible.

For now I would avoid sweeping, this is not the long term solution but it does avoid the crash.

Thanks!

[/ QUOTE ]

Alright... So you said you were looking for a fix 3 days from now... Have you found one? Or will you refund us with the money we payed this month because we couldnt play?

[Splatter]

[ QUOTE ]
Or will you refund us with the money we payed this month because we couldnt play?

[/ QUOTE ]

Thats a loaded question....

You can play you just cann't sweep for the time being.

[Nazual]

And sweeping is how I make my money might I add...

[Blamemememe]

Yeah this bug is awfull :'(

I made like 15 - 20 mill on spoils everyday, we are saving for a clanhall and now we can't bid because of this bug.

I hope NCSoft delays the bidding on C4 clanhalls a bit because of this.

[Tio]

[ QUOTE ]
Sorry for the lack of response.

We are working on a fix and will update you guys as soon as possible.

For now I would avoid sweeping, this is not the long term solution but it does avoid the crash.

Thanks!

[/ QUOTE ]

lol... its like telling a Healer not to Heal or a Buffer not to Buff ^^

[kiraliaa]

Still had this happening in a party last night, BH kept forgetting not to sweep on TOI 5. The last time this happened it somehow blew the usb port for my keyboard.

[Nanashi_Naomhan]

i had a ws on pts
spoil worked perfectly, this is a new bug

[CantoScav]

Despite crashing people a few times, we had a fairly successful night of spoiling in new places. I spoiled up 1 EAB 2 EAA and 1EWA along with my first A grade recipe(Phoenix, but still my first A grade rec spoil)

Now..if they could hurry up and fix the problem, I could probably spoil more(and if our SE would stop having a social life..). I can tell ya now, Hot Springs will be overflowing with farmers, Valley of Saints will have bot trains stretching as far as the eye can see. They all have good basic material spoils, good enchant spoils, and some A grade keymats. Forest of the Dead might be another place they take over, but part of me thinks the terrain and casters will be rough on them(most farmers wear junk jewlery, that place hurts in anything less than BO).

[Haygole]

I can 100% confirm that closing any offending chat windows does NOT solve the problem this time around. My control is the Akaste Bone Soldiers in the Coal Mines. Every time they sweep 2 antidotes every other party member besides the sweeper crashes. We all turned off every chat option and closed the system window, and it still happened. This is horrible. Absolutely the most ridiculous bug ever. I agree with the above poster that telling a scavy not to spoil is like telling an archer not to shoot arrows or a healer to heal etc. PLEASE do something about this asap. I NEED my antidotes. lol

[PleChan]

Yes any ETA yet??? I want to knwo when I can start playing again....

[Spulka]

Yes. Party members crash randomly. With some mobs more often. Braided Hamp crashed almost always at least one party member for examlpe in HC...

But saying dont use sweep its a kinda ... O.o

How are we suposed to earn money now ???!!!!!!!!
:confused: :confused: :confused:

[Nazual]

Still no response... Where art thou' NCSoft?

[CantoScav]

It is crashing due to a reporting error it seems. I crashed out half my party last night, the part that crashed saw that the person recieved 3 mith ore, the people that stayed in game saw 2 mith ore. Two of these people are playing lineage in the same room and were able to compare it. I personally never see the spoil, it just dumps me so I cannot confirm this.

*EDIT*
It seems that the dumped person actually recieved 3 mith ore as the messaging said he did. Sorry, this happened late last night and my memory of what they were saying is shot, hehe.

[Badger49]

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For now I would avoid sweeping, this is not the long term solution but it does avoid the crash.

[/ QUOTE ]

You HAVE to be freaking kidding your paying customers; are you? O_o

'Since equipiing a weapon could lead to crashes we advise everyone to fisticuffs the monsters. This is only a temporary solution but in a few weeks we'll come around to fix it. Maybe.'

Hello? *knock knock*
I know you got your hands full with loads of stuff at the moment but that should be on the list of 'fix immidiately, right now, yesterday if possible'...
It kills the sole purpose of a whole class!
Also, it kills the economy.

Oh wait, on the other hand, look at this thread here (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=518493&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#518493) , which was closed pretty quick...
Funny how you allow bot trains to run around blatantly, now more so than ever, while telling your legit folks to suck it up.

NOT cool. :mad:

Namárië
Badger[49]

[SoulMagic]

still needs fixing :eek: affects a lot of people, anyone with a BH in party :confused:

[Nazual]

Obviously NCSoft thinks that a class not being able to do its job is not important. While your at it, make a bug where an elven elder cannot heal...

[Spulka]

[ QUOTE ]
I have a BH and I am affected by the spoil/party bug. I was just in Pit of IT and watched two common bot parties spoil the same mob I was, and their party remained in tact. Is this because they dont use L2 but some weird other version? If so then the bug would be on our end (software wise) (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=518493&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#518493)

[/ QUOTE ]

I played in one room with other 2 party mates, so we were able to see what happens with comps of each other. If they restarted just their GAME after a crash then it crashed 100% with all sweeps.

If they reastarted their COMPS then we had 10-20 min of play on average before the crash. So we were able to play somehow at least ...
Also the probability seemed to depend on the location of the sweeper. It was in HC and a sweep was more dangerous in the middle of the room than outside it. So we trained the mobs out to kill and sweep. But I am not sure of it - it was just our impression and we did not want to experiment a lot.

So the sweep crash bug seems to have something to do with our client software as well...

[Joaquin]

I was in a party last night and we were near the wall of argos. As the BH I didn't know there was a problem until the 3rd or 4th time the same two people kept crashing. Finally, I realized it was the sweep that wasa causing the problem.

I stopped spoiling and focused on using my other skills (oops, nevermind) and we finally went to Disciplines. In Disciples I could sweep just fine (at level 63 spoils don't land much anyways) and nobody seemed to crash when I was sweeping.

[PleChan]

Yeah it only crash when you manage to spoil somewthing, some areas is less some aras is more common I think it's a lot dependant on the item you spoil, but no mater what you crash anyway. Just a mater oaf time.

In any event, Any ETA on the fix yet? Your stealing my money for not leting me play my class.

[Bregolard]

Has anybody seen anything anywhere indicating the status of this bug? Any kind of update would be appreciated.

[CantoScav]

This is NCSoft Brego, we dont get status updates, we sit on our thumbs and work around major bugs until they fix them and we stumble across a tiny little patch note somewhere.

This is ******* me off more and more everyday. Every day this is broken is another day that I cant work on getting the materials I need for my craft. I still need 800+ Mith Ore, several thousand varnish and bones. All the places I spoil these at spoil in multiples which crashes me. So I either go somewhere where it spoils 1 at a time and is slow as spit or I wait for NCSoft to fix the ****ed thing.

[Hammered]

[ QUOTE ]
Has anybody seen anything anywhere indicating the status of this bug? Any kind of update would be appreciated.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm sure it'll be on the known bugs list. Now where did that go?

Last time I saw it was in the Bug Reports forum. Now where did THAT go?

Last time I saw the Bug Reports forum was............

Oh, forget it.

;)

[McLuhan]

Please:

Everyone submit a bug report to http://support.plaync.com -- let's get some pressure on NCNA to get this fixed. Forum threads are not very visible to the NCsoft corporation. Bugs that are entered through the support system are tracked thoroughly and reports are generated on them. These reports are more likely to spur a manager into action on getting this fixed quickly. It's worth the five minutes


[ QUOTE ]

Customer (McLuhan) writes:
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When I sweep Lilim Magus and some other kinds monsters in Catacomb of the Apostate, my game client crashes with a critical error. Also, often some of my party members will often crash. This has happened about 20 times to me, and people in my party.


[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]

Alfonso - NCSoft Support writes:
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Hi,

Thank you very much for taking time to write in about this.

We have received your submission for our Quality Assurance (QA) Team. I am transferring your ticket to our QA Team for further review as a bug report. Your ticket may be set to "Closed" once they review it without further correspondence if it is not necessary. Someone will respond again if more information is needed. Please be aware that our QA Team is not available on the weekends so the response time may be a bit slower than the usual.

Take care


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[Angdil]

Am I correct in thinking that this problem seems to have been isolated to a sweep of multiples of a single item? Please verify that no one has this problem when they sweep two different items (I've not had any problem with that situation.)

To me, spoiling/sweeping is very much like seeding/harvesting. I would think the coding would be very similar for these two operations, since they are mechanically so similar.

I have harvested a lot of mobs in C4, and gotten multiple crops a lot without ever crashing. Has anyone else had a problem with crashing upon harvesting multiples of crops? If not, NCSoft could examine what is different between the sweep coding and the harvesting coding.

From the post above, it seems like each client is accessing the RNG individually to get the 'result' of the sweep, rather than the RNG evaluating the sweep and distributing the result. When the RNG sends two different results, those with mismatched results (to the game server) crash.

Such results will occur when you unintentionally create a 'race condition' in your logic gates (in this case, the programming logic that determines the spoil quantity.) Since we have zero access to the code, we can only make suggestions to NCSoft. My suggestion would be to compare the logic used in harvesting with that used in sweeping.

[Elrohir]

[ QUOTE ]
For now I would avoid using the pickup command, this is not the long term solution but it does avoid the crash.


[/ QUOTE ]
Insane...

[PleChan]

Already petitioned, for no use, they redirect me back to the forum heh, I'm still waiting for the ETA when I can start play, it cost me money every day not being able to play my char.

[DaStalKer]

Hope they fix it in the downtime this week.. Getting veeeery anoying. Need tons of animal skins! :(

Why did they even touch the sweep system, worked perfectly before. It was even better before, because it says "picked up" when someone picked up.. now it says "obtained" no matter if its a spoil och pickup.

[Elrohir]

[ QUOTE ]
Already petitioned, for no use, they redirect me back to the forum

[/ QUOTE ]
WTF? Why do they direct you to the forums when we're told not to post bugs here!?!

[Ramadear]

I was hoping this weeks maintences would fix the problem. http://www.lineage2.com/archive/2006/02/patch_notes_213.html

Guess not, I love your customer/tech support go ncsoft! Erase bh from the game plz. Save us some trouble.

[PleChan]

Kind of making me a bit more ****** then I alredy are, when are we able to get to know WHEN this bug will be fixed???, destroy an complete class like this is terrible, hell even I've heard that our 76+ stuff is somewhat broken.. much joy in that aint it....

By the way how did you get the URL to the patch notes directly, I clicked news and got to the list... but I can't find that one there.

[Badger49]

[ QUOTE ]
I was hoping this weeks maintences would fix the problem. http://www.lineage2.com/archive/2006/02/patch_notes_213.html

Guess not, I love your customer/tech support go ncsoft! Erase bh from the game plz. Save us some trouble.

[/ QUOTE ]

So, reading those update notes it takes them three hours to make dice work again and to globally delete some items from inventory and WH...

Uh...

NCSoft? Anyone home? :(

Namárië
Badger[49]

[Karvok2]

Temporary fix for this. Dunno if this is against the EULA or whatever... but enjoy.

If you still have a copy of your C3 client, grab the file called sysstring-e.dat out of your system folder and replace the sysstring-e.dat in your C4 system folder.

1 issue with this fix, you can't be rezzed anymore as the box doesnt pop up ><

[McLuhan]

[ QUOTE ]
Already petitioned, for no use, they redirect me back to the forum heh, I'm still waiting for the ETA when I can start play, it cost me money every day not being able to play my char.

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't petition bugs, put them on http://support.plaync.com

[PleChan]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Already petitioned, for no use, they redirect me back to the forum heh, I'm still waiting for the ETA when I can start play, it cost me money every day not being able to play my char.

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't petition bugs, put them on http://support.plaync.com

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah thats the same thing, as I mailed THEM

[Nazual]

[ QUOTE ]
Temporary fix for this. Dunno if this is against the EULA or whatever... but enjoy.

If you still have a copy of your C3 client, grab the file called sysstring-e.dat out of your system folder and replace the sysstring-e.dat in your C4 system folder.

1 issue with this fix, you can't be rezzed anymore as the box doesnt pop up ><

[/ QUOTE ]

****, wish I saved my old folder. Could you host the file somewhere for me and others to download it? :cool:

[Spulka]

Petitioned also.

[ QUOTE ]
Temporary fix for this. Dunno if this is against the EULA or whatever... but enjoy.

If you still have a copy of your C3 client, grab the file called sysstring-e.dat out of your system folder and replace the sysstring-e.dat in your C4 system folder.

1 issue with this fix, you can't be rezzed anymore as the box doesnt pop up ><

[/ QUOTE ]

does it really help??!! :eek: ... and is it a bannable offence to do it?!
GMs PLEASE GIVE US A HINT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tio]

Sooo.... when can we play our classes again? ^^
Actually we had allot fun with this bug already, it was a bit like roussian Roulette. ppl screaming in Ventrilo:"Do it Tio.. sweep... no dont do it...!!"
And then the Healer was gone ^^... And I pawned one dagger User that was in the Group out of Game and Ventrilo.

Awesome to have that kind of force ^^
but still... guys... fix that. Think about a Healer with that kind of bug... actually, if there WOULD be a bug like that for more then 1 day (pff 1 day.. 1 hour!) there would be no customers left.

btw.. am I still the only Fortune Seeker out there? :-/

[PleChan]

HEH just found out some post on www.l2blah.com (http://www.l2blah.com) in the general section there.... and it's taken NCSoft more then 1 week to fix something like that? I'm terrrrrrrrrrble dispointed, I meen SERIOUSLY, fix a typo? takes what? 1 sec or what???

But no, we wont' fix anything, no we won't inform the comunity when the fix will be fixed, and so on, I think NCSoft is openly telling us to reroll and don't go BH anymore.

Thats at least how I feel, and how We are being thereeted by NCSoft......

[Tio]

[ QUOTE ]

I think NCSoft is openly telling us to reroll and don't go BH anymore.


[/ QUOTE ]

wtf.. Iam not rerolling till the Bug is fixed :P

[Mistryl]

The crashing issue currently caused by Sweep/Spoil in a party has been reported to the development team to be fixed as soon as possible. Unfortunately, I don’t have a specific ETA on the fix at this time, but it is a high priority.

[Bulle]

Still, i cant believe the dice thing was fixed before this one.

[Ramadear]

[ QUOTE ]
Still, i cant believe the dice thing was fixed before this one.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sad times.... Please ncsoft hire a NA developement team, because this is ridiculous.

[Bregolard]

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The crashing issue currently caused by Sweep/Spoil in a party has been reported to the development team to be fixed as soon as possible. Unfortunately, I don’t have a specific ETA on the fix at this time, but it is a high priority.

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Thank you for the update. When you do have an ETA please let us know.

[PleChan]

I can't belive it takes more then a few minutes to release a patch for this.... SERIOUSLY.......

Ah well Guess it will be yet another week of not being able to play, thanks NCSoft.

[Tio]

Just try ur sweep on some mobs... I'am sure u find one where it works :) I do the same.

[aJx]

Yeah it was so funny the second day on c4 retail . I was in party with 2 others of my clan in Forest of Death .... hunting vamps . They crashed for like every 2min between every crash :-)
I was like wth guys i never crash , do a full check or something ... :)
They crashed on that 2 hours of hunting like 20times . Till i found out in Hot Springs in another party it was my fault :mad:

BH = forcelog walking device .

[PleChan]

Dosn't mater I'm not geting into any groups at all, plus all the spots I can hunt at i crash in anyway.

[Blitzkrieg231]

This is like trying to tell a BD/SWS not to sing dance hopefully you fix it soon.


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Sorry for the lack of response.

We are working on a fix and will update you guys as soon as possible.

For now I would avoid sweeping, this is not the long term solution but it does avoid the crash.

Thanks!

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[Elrohir]

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Still, i cant believe the dice thing was fixed before this one.

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Give me a break. Turning a feature back on is child's play.

Not that I'm giving them a break for not fixing this bug, but one thing has nothing to do with the other.

[MrBungle]

Telling us its a high priority, then coming out with a maintenance patch that simply removes all the christmas trees from people's inventories doesn't really tell me much. I may have quit this game on and off in the past for lack of interest and such, but I'm more determined now than I've ever been to get to 75.

Instead of being able to do anything in game this week, I've been subjected to not only being ignored when looking for a group(and who can blame them, who the hell wants to group a BH that CAN'T SPOIL! It's not like we're incredible DDs or something), but I've been subjected to crashes in most of my favorite exp spots.

Is all of this coming to a point? Yes, it is. I know that hotfixes are usually only implemented with the weekly maintenance, but if NCSoft actually does give a **** about the players who are suffering from this with their BH mains, they will bring this hotfix into the game the second they finish it, whether its Thursday at midnight or the middle of the evening on Saturday. Will people complain? Yes, but quite frankly I could care less. We have already had to go through one week of not being able to join the new chronicle, and are about to be subjected to a second week of it, which is crap. I think if we can endure that kind of bulls**t with our characters for this long, then every other player can deal with their server being down for 3 hours while the hotfix is implemented.

Like I said earlier, I've already quit the game on and off several times due to lack of interest. Don't make me add "Incompetent programmers" to that list of reasons as well, when I cancel my account in the near future because this bug isn't fixed.

[Elrohir]

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Telling us its a high priority, then coming out with a maintenance patch that simply removes all the christmas trees from people's inventories doesn't really tell me much.

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This was probably already done before the problem was reported.

[Valdis]

What's sad is that I've taken the account I usually two-box with my dwarf and just run it solo. I have to say, orc shamans make dang good soloers. He kills faster than my dwarf did. Maybe my dwarf should be the 2nd box?

I hope they fix this fast or my shaman's going to outlevel my BH.

[Tio]

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Still, i cant believe the dice thing was fixed before this one.

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buahaha.... sorry to disappoint u but the Dice stuff is still not working.. hahaha
U guys sure that u patched something today?

[PleChan]

Yeah we can't even trust the patch notes anymore, as the dices where clearly not enabled.

And top of that yeah even the release notes of C4 is wrong LOL.

[Tio]

u know.. the only thing that worked this time was the Patching from the Client.. not more

this Thread is getting longer and longer.. maybe its getting as many sites as the "Server Transfer Thread".. uhm...
btw.. Iam waiting for the Transfer since Open Beta ^^

[uNDeRPaNTS_GNoMe]

Dice still don't work (not a major issue), BH's still can't spoil (major issue) and my Christmas Trees are gone, yet the parts are still there (again, not a major issue). :eek: Along with a 5 day response time from NC (the CC no less, not even QA). Let's not forget the tease of new servers on the Server Selection screen.


Really guys... what's going on over there?

[Seffel]

This should have been fixed asap, how should ppl earn any extras until this is fixed, people are trying to gather things so they can craft sgrade and agrade stuff.
Btw i heard from some source that the 7th of feb patch on the pts caused it.
And its just a small thing, like a few letters that are missplaced.

[Mistryl]

The Dice were not enabled today as announced -- I sincerely apologize. We currently plan on addressing this during next week's maintenance.

[Nazual]

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The Dice were not enabled today as announced -- I sincerely apologize. We currently plan on addressing this during next week's maintenance.

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ROFL. We get a sincere apology because the dice aren't working yet all we get is an ETA and a "high priority" message (which to me means nothing) with the sweep crash...

[MobSpoiler]

How is it possible for such an error to exist, spoil/sweep error not only happends on new hunting territories, but also at catacombs and necropolis, this bug is making us (the BH's) not to be able to play as the char should be.

Ncsoft must fix this problem, i hope they do it soon.

[Tio]

lol... checked that Fix too. There is really a typo...

dunno if I should cry or laugh....

[Zhanig]

I can now confirm the sweeper problem. We were in enchanted valley. Every tome our dwarf swept for more than 1 item sucessfully, the entire team except him was booted straight to the desktop. We were all talking on Vent at the time and there were no errors, nothing. Just black screen/boot to desk top. Game guard and L2.exe were no longer in the task manager and you could double click on L2 and start right back up.
Once we quit sweeping, we didn't have a problem the rest of the night.

[Hammered]

If this is a high priority issue then I'd hate to see how you treat low prioroty ones.

/sarcasm
Does the fact that you are now going to use next weeks maintenance to re-enable dice mean that we shouldn't expect a fix for the sweep bug until the week after? Or are you able to implement more than one thing in a single maintenance period?

Having customers find the errors in your code really has to be a new low for you guys.

And lastly, if this typo really turns out to be the cause, what are the chances of actually getting a fix BEFORE next weeks maintenance. Fixing things outside of scheduled maintenance slots may be revolutionary I know, but even the mighty NCNA must be able to appreciate how crippling this is to the BH class and maybe get a special dispensation from Korea to implement a fix early.

I appreciate that Korea is probably asleep while you are at work but maybe one of your employees could get up early/stay up late to make the call.

/sarcasm off

Edit: Apologies, but sarcasm is my only defence against the anger I feel when I encounter such ineptitude.

[DaStalKer]

This is taking too long now.
Tell the developement team to go in to this place, and read how many players there are who is ****** about it.. and multiply it with 10000! So they can se how critical this is. How hard can it be? Just take the working code from C3 or whatever. Must a bug like this take more than 1 days to fix? People are paying for this, and expecting the game to work correctly.. hurry up now FFS!!!!

[Mistryl]

Because very little of this thread is constructive and I've had to remove several posts encouraging players to modify their client, I am closing this thread now. If you feel you have additional details to report on this bug, please contact the Support Team (http://support.lineage2.com). We will make an announcement as soon as we have more information. Thank you!