Voting System Sugguestion...

[TimeCop]

What would you all think about A new voting system going into Line Age 2, where before each new chronical, NC soft takes all the main thing's that are being changed, and put's them in a voting system, so that Everyone can vote for what they want to be changed on the new chronical, before it is changed, or if they want it to be the same.

First hit Alt+B to open it, then select the poll tab, then read the poll, on the new chronical, and answer the questions...

Please note, that NC soft are the ones who make the Poll, the players dont, all NC soft does is ask us if we want it changed, or something added, we simply say
(Yes) (No) (No Answer)

Examples below...

This will be the changes in Chronical 5, we would like you
to vote for what you think should change, and what you think should be changed...

#1 Do you want the Aqua Flare's Damage to be reduced?
(Yes) (No) (No Answer)

#2Shoud the pet manager stop selling Strider Food?
(yes) (No) (No Answer)

#3 Shoud all mystic's magic damage be lowered by 50%
(Yes) (No) (No Answer)

#4 Should Fighters Get Blessed Shout Shots?
(Yes) (No) (No Answer)

#5 Should we get new Weapons,Armor,Skills,Spells?
(Yes) (No) (No Answer)

This is an example of a new voting system, and it will have a little dot next to the option for you to click, and after you choose one of them for each question, you click submit, that easy...

Note This Sugguestion is about Everyone Including Newbies, and High Level Players to be able to vote no matter their level's, but they are only allowed to vote one time for each account, so there can be no cheating with voting twice...

As Far as a voting system with High levels threatening other players, the newbie could say I have already voted, or Call a GM, and turn in the high level player trying to force the newbie to vote for something that he/she doesn't want to, and make that breaking the rules right there...

This post is for if you like the Idea of having a voting system, Please do not turn this post into a Flamming Post, An Arguement, Or start saying that newbies should not have the right to vote. This post is about voting right's for everyone if NC does use this sugguestion and put's it in the game... If you do not like the Idea, please do not post here, Post here only if you like the Sugguestion, and want to change something about it, But not changing the part so newbies cant vote... Thanks...

[Elrohir]

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This post is for if you like the Idea of having a voting system, Please do not turn this post into a Flamming Post, An Arguement, Or start saying that newbies should not have the right to vote. This post is about voting right's for everyone if NC does use this sugguestion and put's it in the game... If you do not like the Idea, please do not post here, Post here only if you like the Sugguestion, and want to change something about it, But not changing the part so newbies cant vote... Thanks...

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Your record in this aspect is not so good...

Also, posting the same suggestion over and over doesn't make it any better.

[TimeCop]

Please read what my post says... You guys have already flammed the other post, with the comment of newbies shouldnt be allowed to vote, please do not start flamming this one again, I have wasted hours writeing these posts as a Sugguestion, Not a joke, Rumor, or a Fun post, so please stop acting like 10 year olds... This is why I was forced to post a 2nd one...
If you wish to have a flamming war go here... The Post you all started flamming on... (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=518373&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=2&vc=1#Post518373) Thank You...

[bekkar]

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Aqua Flare's Damage

[/ QUOTE ]There is no spell, "Aqua Flare". You are confusing two different spells. This has been pointed out to you before, yet you have persisted in making the same mistake for about a month.
That's an example of why the general public should not be allowed to directly vote on game design.

You say [ QUOTE ]
If you do not like the Idea, please do not post here

[/ QUOTE ] but you're going to have to grow up and deal with it. Your idea is a bad one, and I'm going to explain why, whether or not you want to hear it. If you don't want people to criticize your ideas, don't post them.

The common man is, for lack of a nicer term that still holds the same meaning, an idiot. The public votes by either playing or not playing a game, which is the only vote that matters.

Since you're not going to understand the "vote with your wallet" concept, here's another one. [ QUOTE ]
#6 Should all players be given 50 free levels?
(Yes) (No) (No Answer)

[/ QUOTE ] That one would certainly pass. And ruin the game overnight.
Players are selfish, shortsighted, and often incapable of understanding the point. No voting for the common man. Provide feedback, sure, but vote by playing or not playing.

And about the flames...you're so bad in this aspect I seriously wonder why you haven't been banned. You've posted real-life prejudiced or flat-out racist comments (:eek:), you've started several game-related racist threads (some you got locked), you're quick to turn on the emotion instead of making even a token attempt to be rational...need I continue? Basically, you start and deserve flamewars.

It's funny that you say [ QUOTE ]
please do not start flamming this one again

[/ QUOTE ] when the only response was from SirElrohir, and he wasn't flaming you. He posted "posting the same suggestion over and over doesn't make it any better", which is a fact, not a flame.
Are you so thin-skinned that you think someone pointing out the obvious counts as an attack?

Here's another obvious statement: starting the same thread multiple times to get more attention is against the board rules.

[TimeCop]

#1 you are wrong, I have not made any racist comments related to calling people names, thats why I have not been banned, I have brought up some racist talk, but not directed to anyone, or any race... Read up, and you will see what I mean... Read this post, this is where he thinks I directed Racist Comments at people... Click Me ! (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=518373&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=2&vc=1#Post518373)

#2 NC are the ones who are making the votes, not the players, is nc soft going to make a poll saying who wants 50 free levels? No they arent... Maybe if you would learn to read better...

If I have cursed at Black's,Whites,Germans,ect. I would have been Banned by now, or gotten a warning, dont you think?

If you all want me to get a level 75 character first, and then come back here and post the same **** thing I will, because even if there is a voting system, It needs to be for everyone, Not just me because I am a level 75...

For those of you who did not understand my post, please read the first post on this topic again...

[HIeverybody]

lmao u post the exact same thread because people didn't agree with you in the first one?

I'd copy paste my response, but it isn't worth the time...

Here is my argument against everything you said....

No.

[bekkar]

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#1 you are wrong, I have not made any racist comments related to calling people names, thats why I have not been banned, I have brought up some racist talk, but not directed to anyone, or any race... Read up, and you will see what I mean... Read this post, this is where he thinks I directed Racist Comments at people... Click Me ! (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=518373&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=2&vc=1#Post518373)

[/ QUOTE ] Liar. Flat-out, -_- liar.
I'm calling you racist because of that locked thread you made a series of anti-German comments in. Those comments included: [ QUOTE ]
I do not mean to sound like a racist, but why is it that a lot of german websites sell adena? Are they the ones who develop the softawre for it?
...
this means that germans, anywhere on the world can post one there, and if you go there, they tell you not to buy it from ebay, they say buy it from their website...
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I have came across 5 German websites that sell adena, GIL, Ect...
[...]I didn't wanna sound like a racist

[/ QUOTE ] If anyone doesn't believe me, feel free to read the thread I'm talking about (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=511376) to see his comments and how he gets lambasted by several posters for his inappropriate remarks.
Frankly, I'm amazed he wasn't warned for that thread, I think the moderators were just avoiding him :p


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#2 NC are the ones who are making the votes, not the players, is nc soft going to make a poll saying who wants 50 free levels? No they arent... Maybe if you would learn to read better...

[/ QUOTE ] ME read better? Oh give me a break! I knew (and publically stated!) you weren't going to be capable of understanding my comments, it requires paying attention which is a skill you utterly lack. Congratulations on proving me right, yet again.
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If I have cursed at Black's,Whites,Germans,ect. I would have been Banned by now, or gotten a warning, dont you think?

[/ QUOTE ] Given the comments I just quoted, I'm amazed you weren't.
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For those of you who did not understand my post, please read the first post on this topic again...

[/ QUOTE ] Coming from you, that's hilarious. :D

[_Charmille_]

This is a forum for the community and that means every member of the community has the same rights to post and discuss other peoples posts here. You saying that "dont post here if you dont like this" is trying to take something away from us. We have the right to post in this thread, even if to flame or argue your ideas. Btw, most of the posts people have made in reply to your threads have not been flames, they've been criticism and posts that you usually have when there is an ongoing debate.

Also, posting several threads about the same topic is not wise. My answer is the same again: NO NO AND NO.

[admiral_ju00]

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This is a forum for the community and that means every member of the community has the same rights to post and discuss other peoples posts here. You saying that "dont post here if you dont like this" is trying to take something away from us.

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Heh that doesn't quite sit well with his Equal Rights statement he made in his other thread, now does it? :p

[_Charmille_]

Seems like his Equal Rights only apply when they are beneficial to himself >.>

[TimeCop]

I have not posted several posts on the same thing, The thing that makes me angry, is because we are lowbies, we get stompped on alot... What I meant was I do not like flames all in these posts, they screw them up, It was like a pool question I was asking, thats why I made the 2nd post, so who ever agrees can agree, and the people who dont simply dont post, but I guess it doesnt work this way, Remember this is the First place I have ever done forums online, so I am not completely sure about 100% how online forums work...

Anyways, what I meant about a voting system, was not for players to make their own pools...

I meant a voting system, so for every chronical that LineAge2 Makes, NC soft will write a pool in the community section of the game, so that people can vote for what they want changed, NC soft are the only ones who can make the Pools...

For example NC Soft writes...
Should Dice be taken out of the game?
(Yes) (No) (No Answer)

Should Strider Food No Longer Be Sold At The Pet Manager?
(Yes) (No) (No Answer)

You know how some people are ****** off, because Dice were taken out of the game, and peoples striders died, and people were angry at some things that NC soft changed right?

Well NC soft makes the pool, and we agree, or disagree with what they say, and which ever one wins, if it should be changed or not, is effected in the next upgrade, and we are all notifed at the end of the pool which ones were changed...

I was not saying that we make our own posts, NC soft Writes the post for us, and we click a few little dots, and click submit... This is what I meant, If I did not explain well enough, I am sorry, but I do not really make a habbit of writeing that many topics, and this is my first online place to ever write forums...

[admiral_ju00]

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I have not posted several posts on the same thing, The thing that makes me angry, is because we are lowbies, we get stompped on alot...

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Here's the thing, No one is trying to stomp, but at the same time, people can't help but to respond to some of the insane propositions you make.

For instance, you may have noticed, I tend to post a lot of stupid questions. If there is something I don't know/remember, I post and ask. So far I have never been flamed for doing so.

[RunningFox]

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I have not posted several posts on the same thing, The thing that makes me angry, is because we are lowbies, we get stompped on alot...

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Please stop making second posts. You've made the same suggestion before, it was hashed out by the player community at large. It received a fair hearing. Period.

Second, please stop using yourself as a super person. Like the comments above. We all read these boards, and I think you'll find that move new players who come up with questions are generally answered by high level players. However, you, time and time again come up with extreme suggestions that alter the way that this game is played to the point that it alarms people who might be affected by those changes.

People flame, because they do not like the idea. I'm sure you would prefer that the simply said "/not signed", but in the end most want to reason with you as to why they don't like your idea. The problem is the thread turns into a flame when you make comments such as above. Not "all" new players are stomped on, however, as SirE said, your track record is not very good on coming up with suggestions embraced by your fellow players. You seem to take that as a personal attack on new players, that is incorrect. It is an attack on your dogmatic attempts to get your suggestions implemented. Several reasons have been given for why people do not like your idea of a voting system, please move on to the next suggestion and do not break out a new thread simply because the first has not followed the road of your liking.

Thank you.

[Hammered]

A voting system in NA would be as useful as a chocolate teapot.

NCSoft doesn't listen to it's NA customers. We get what Korea wants. Period. Get used to it or stop playing.

[subversion]

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We get what Korea wants. Period. Get used to it or stop playing.

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Touche

[Physics4ever]

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You seem to take that as a personal attack on new players, that is incorrect.

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Actually he's been so irritating that towards the end of his threads this is the result.

[HIeverybody]

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I have not posted several posts on the same thing, The thing that makes me angry, is because we are lowbies, we get stompped on alot...

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Here's the thing, No one is trying to stomp, but at the same time, people can't help but to respond to some of the insane propositions you make.

For instance, you may have noticed, I tend to post a lot of stupid questions. If there is something I don't know/remember, I post and ask. So far I have never been flamed for doing so.

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ahahahaha Noob!!!!11111

j/k <3

[bekkar]

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The thing that makes me angry, is because we are lowbies, we get stompped on alot...

[/ QUOTE ] You don't get stomped on for being low level. You get stomped on because your posts are poorly-written, short-sighted and selfish drivel rife with offensive and ignorant comments...along with the racist comments that I'm reminding everyone that you no longer even attempt to deny.

It's not that the board doesn't like newbies. The board doesn't like you. It's personal.

[HIeverybody]

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The thing that makes me angry, is because we are lowbies, we get stompped on alot...

[/ QUOTE ] You don't get stomped on for being low level. You get stomped on because your posts are poorly-written, short-sighted and selfish drivel rife with offensive and ignorant comments...along with the racist comments that I'm reminding everyone that you no longer even attempt to deny.

It's not that the board doesn't like newbies. The board doesn't like you. It's personal.

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I think my record speaks for itself... I don't like newbies...








but then again. I don't like anybody.