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DaSilvaWainger
02-12-2006, 11:49 AM
ok the first time i seen hindemith full.
please remove bots NCSoft so i can play what i pay for :)

SithMaster
02-12-2006, 11:51 AM
Hmm both my accounts logged on fine :p

bekkar
02-12-2006, 11:54 AM
And you're sure the problem is bots?

Bloodfest
02-12-2006, 12:08 PM
Lots of players are returning because of C4, its not all bots
Don't know if you've noticed but C4 kicks *** :D

Lersondaya
02-12-2006, 12:38 PM
Actually it is farmers, RedGuards is going on a RB spree, should return to normal shortly.

Badger49
02-12-2006, 03:47 PM
Theyll have loads of fun with all the raid bosses being relocated and not dropping any full gear at all anymore. At least the five we killed today didn't drop a single full gear but loads of stupid key mats...

Namárië
Badger[49]

Tylon
02-12-2006, 05:57 PM
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Theyll have loads of fun with all the raid bosses being relocated and not dropping any full gear at all anymore. At least the five we killed today didn't drop a single full gear but loads of stupid key mats...

Namárië
Badger[49]

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I watched RG get imperial crusader boot drop from kernon during my 75 quest. I remember doing 8 raid bosses in 1 day and not getting a single drop. it happened more then once too .... maybe i am bad luck? ><

Karigan_Imm
02-12-2006, 06:05 PM
/agree with Tylon. Any boss he has ever been with us on has never dropped a single item. He's not there we get lots of drops. :-/

Stanimir
02-12-2006, 06:41 PM
on PTS I got on NM shield from the noble quest (on the 3rd kills) +7 more RBs dropping sick amount of key mats (i suppose the 10x rate also affected that).

ann3r5
02-12-2006, 11:26 PM
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ok the first time i seen hindemith full.
please remove bots NCSoft so i can play what i pay for :)

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u can still log in....

...i did.

SithMaster
02-13-2006, 02:35 AM
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/agree with Tylon. Any boss he has ever been with us on has never dropped a single item. He's not there we get lots of drops. :-/

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Sounds like a simple solution to me >.>

Haygole
02-13-2006, 12:42 PM
Ok, here is my take on things. I made a thread about this but it vanished, and I never even used the word "bot" in it. Well, before C4 I had dwarf land almost totaly to myself. There were a few other people and a few not-people. Nothing much. Now, FORGET IT!!! There are full parties everywhere in the mines/outdoor areas there. Full parties. Seriously. When was the last time you saw full 7+ people parties in super-newbie areas since prelude? This is goofy ******ed. They are basically saying they don't give a crap and aren't trying to hide. I try to report and get this "Too many petitions, sorry we can't get to yours any time soon" poopoo. I mean, I'm gonna keep playing, cause I'm a [censored] sucker. Still, its really bizzaro all these super trains everywhere. Whats the deal? Was there a mass banning lately or what?

<sigh> Why do I even bother talking about this. We all know zip will ever happen.

Trism
02-13-2006, 03:04 PM
Instead of complaining about it organize with others and kill them methodicly and regularly. Train mobs on them. Pick off their healers first if you just want to PK them then work off the Karma. Buy tons of cheap leather shields NG grade and drop them all over their area to pick up and fill there slots. It will also slow them once their weight limit is reached. I am sure there are many ways to have fun messing with those Super Bot Trains that I have not even thought of.

It can actually be quite fun once you get the hang of it.

Even better is that it does so piss them off.

TheBigSlave
02-13-2006, 03:17 PM
I also heard lots of Teon peeps hoping to Hindemith, not sure tho

Oranj2
02-13-2006, 04:21 PM
hindemith DOWN :D

PaladinXMan
02-13-2006, 04:21 PM
These noobies bot trains are going to lvl up and take over the new C4 areas. And NCsoft wants them to. gg

Haygole
02-13-2006, 04:24 PM
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Instead of complaining about it organize with others and kill them methodicly and regularly. Train mobs on them. Pick off their healers first if you just want to PK them then work off the Karma. Buy tons of cheap leather shields NG grade and drop them all over their area to pick up and fill there slots. It will also slow them once their weight limit is reached. I am sure there are many ways to have fun messing with those Super Bot Trains that I have not even thought of.

It can actually be quite fun once you get the hang of it.

Even better is that it does so piss them off.

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lol, no. All of that is a total waste of time. Going red is the last thing anybody should do on these guys. You will end up dropping gear eventually no matter how careful you try to be, or else you will be wasting tons of time doing sin eater over and over. Meanwhile, they could give a rats *** if they die, and now in C4 if you train them their own party gets pickup rights on the gear before you.

There is no way to beat them. You will get tired ALONG FREAKIN TIME before they do. I know its fun to pretend we could organize some big hunt and pk them the hell outta here, but that's a ridiculous pipe dream. I killed one today, and then in less than a min he was back since there is a port in spot from town right next to just about everything. He just showed back up and his little minnions started following him around again.

Its hopeless. All you can do is /gm them and pray. Even if they get banned, they will be right back. They play it when you're sleeping; they play when you're awake; they play because we buy their cash so don't buy it for goodness sake.

Now that's the king of all ridiculous pipe dreams. <sigh>

Oranj2
02-13-2006, 04:30 PM
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I also heard lots of Teon peeps hoping to Hindemith, not sure tho

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maybe cos we owned em so hard on PTS they wanna join us.

TheBigSlave
02-13-2006, 05:04 PM
HAHA, they probably do want to Join us ^_^

Also I am doing regular train runs though EV, even pk'd once cause stupid SS was on and i lagged while stunning the healer!

Haygole
02-13-2006, 07:39 PM
lol, I was just in Gludin and there were whole trains going in and out of the magic shop. Seriously, when was the last time there was a full legit, non-raid boss party wandering around Gludin, much less going to the spellbook shop together.

I think they have Inspector Gadget doing these "investigations."


Here is a question, if you make a video (with fraps or something since our recorder leaves out names) can you use this as evidence or would that just be another waste of time?

TheDemonKnight
02-13-2006, 08:17 PM
The answer to your question is, waste of time.

Keep in mind, that for every full illegitimate party you see, that's 14.95 a month in revenue per character. Also most of those parties have one controller at the comp at all times, so it is relatively easy to pop to the correct name and answer a GM petition when it pops up. Check out any of the alternate forums for screenshots or other proof.

Professional players "farmers" As the gaming magizines call them are a very very big business. Even if NcSoft banned every account they suspected (keep in mind I am saying suspected, not proved) they would still have someone creating brand new accounts with farm213 characters running around.

Haygole
02-13-2006, 08:37 PM
My point exactly. I actually asked one of the conductors today "How do you not get banned. You don't seem to be very good at botting." He just says "Haha :p," and continues about his business.

All I can say is "Argh." At least they fixed the spoil bug quickly. :|

TailChaser
02-14-2006, 12:40 AM
rofl never thought of these. BTW to those who are cheap you can farm keltirs near DE starting area. Those drops shoes. Send your girlfriends there to farm a few hundred.