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Winter
02-16-2006, 08:33 PM
Just saw a thread in the forum about this and saw a link which showed some undies and stuff. Just wanted to get some more attention to it and vote YES on getting underwear/swimsuits. Come one NC SOFT! Look how many ppl want this! :p

Edit: here's the post where they show undies http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=grph&message.id=14790

TukumiSushi
02-16-2006, 09:24 PM
Yes i can just imagine it ... role playing a bucks night with scantily clad female toons and
Fettered Souls (http://aloebera.hopto.org/Quests/summoner/soul.jpg) . Definately "high swords" all round har har har

Yes i know the game designers were venting out their frustrations when they designed female dark elves and fettered souls, but that doesnt mean OPs have to as well :P

Besides it would cause an overflow of support petitions for repetitive strain injury and loss of eye sight.

Kruken
02-16-2006, 09:34 PM
lol would make a DE female alt and keep her in underware all the time. Just to log in and take a peek every now and then.

Woodsman
02-17-2006, 04:30 AM
Would love them, Cant wait to see grandpa dorf in his old style full body orange/yellow swimsuit suit like they used in the 1900's. :D

Champa
02-17-2006, 04:32 AM
It's better than the noob armor look all the chars have now when they're "naked".
Yes to underwear.

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Would love them, Cant wait to see grandpa dorf in his old style full body orange/yellow swimsuit suit like they used in the 1900's. :D

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LOL yes, I concur. :D

PameanWraith
02-17-2006, 06:00 AM
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Definately "high swords" all round har har har

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Swords High!

(Thanks for the plug) :)

oderon
02-17-2006, 07:02 AM
Well I'd love a water-,fire-,acid- and mole-proof pyjama suit on my male dwarf. Magenta, it must be light magenta color :)

PameanWraith
02-17-2006, 07:03 AM
Pink boxer briefs for my sorc, thanks. Tagless plz.

Esmera
02-17-2006, 07:29 AM
Thanks for the link, I was wondering what the underwear looks like for my DE.

Seeing that, I really don't understand why we don't have them in NA.

I think as a DE, the underwears are a lot more tasteful then the ********** outfit I have when I take off my armor.

MalineII
02-17-2006, 07:36 AM
Agreed!

The underwear is a lot prettier than the 'naked' outfits in most cases.

SilverWolfEcho
02-17-2006, 08:28 AM
So what will the guys get? Boxer briefs?

Splatter
02-17-2006, 09:58 AM
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So what will the guys get? Boxer briefs?

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Well, being orc monks/tyrants go the light armor route as in less is good. They wouldn't get anything, as orcs go skinny dipping. :o

MalineII
02-17-2006, 10:02 AM
Male Lineage 2 underwear <cough>

Human Mystics: Undershirt and boxer shorts. Darkish white, not quite beige, not quite grey.
Human Fighters: Long Boxers Beige.
Dwarves: Long sleeves and legs, like super old-fashioned underwear you'd see in period films. Brown.
Male Dark Elves: I'm not so knowledgable about underwear names, but they're small black briefs.
Male Elves: White briefs that don't make me want to gauge my eyes out. Yay for underwear that covers!
Male Orc Mystics: Also small brownish underwear.
Male Orc Fighters: Didn't have the misfortune of seeing a picture of this. Yay!

Woodsman
02-17-2006, 10:11 AM
This would be more to my expectations:

Human Mystics: Red Longjohns (they have no fashion sense whatsoever and momma said to wear warm underwear)
Human Fighters: Boxer shorts
Dwarves: Those old fashioned beachwear form the victorian ages where all skin had to be covered.
Male Dark Elves: Dark leather tongs and some assorted leather straps for good measure
Male Elves: frilly white thingies
Male Orc Mystics: loincloth
Male Orc Fighters: Loincloth with some feathers attached

righteousOne
02-17-2006, 10:17 AM
Yes no doubt gie us this stuff already!!!! I head that the reason it wasn't implied was some lame censorship probsbut seriously is it that different then what the female DE's already have on? Give us underwear please and capes so I can pretend I am superman lol

Champa
02-17-2006, 11:20 AM
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Male Orc Fighters: Loincloth with some feathers attached

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Yeah! :D

_Charmille_
02-17-2006, 12:22 PM
And what about the female orcs? :) Give us something nice ;) Our wedding dress > DE wedding dress so I'd think the undies would follow the same line ;)

MalineII
02-17-2006, 12:24 PM
They might have been loincloths. I must admit: I did not spend much time staring at orcish backsides when I had the opportunity.

Taraza
02-18-2006, 12:05 AM
I really don't understand why they didn't have underwear. Censorship shouldn't even be a problem. I can turn on the TV and see a Victoria's Secret commercial or look at a newspaper and see Target has a sale on bras and panties. WTH, why would in-game lingerie be any more offensive than the crap we have in print ads and television commercials. It just sounds to me that NC Soft censored themselves out of the belief that all Americans are die-hard Christians or something and that people wouldn't buy the game with underwear.

MalineII
02-18-2006, 12:29 AM
The question you should ask is: Why would in game lingerie be any more offensive than 90% of female dark elven and orcish outfits?

admiral_ju00
02-18-2006, 01:17 AM
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Agreed!

The underwear is a lot prettier than the 'naked' outfits in most cases.

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I think the problem is, Most other MMO's / RPG's have Underwear when you take off all the cloth/armor.

Sooo, how do you remedy this?

********** / Crap cloth outfit FTW!

admiral_ju00
02-18-2006, 01:36 AM
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I really don't understand why they didn't have underwear. Censorship shouldn't even be a problem. I can turn on the TV and see a Victoria's Secret commercial or look at a newspaper and see Target has a sale on bras and panties. WTH, why would in-game lingerie be any more offensive than the crap we have in print ads and television commercials. It just sounds to me that NC Soft censored themselves out of the belief that all Americans are die-hard Christians or something and that people wouldn't buy the game with underwear.

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Actually, our socioculture is dictated by the Christians. I won't go into details cause this thread will get locked down in a heart beat. I'm surprised it hasn't been yet after your post.

Taraza
02-18-2006, 04:03 AM
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I really don't understand why they didn't have underwear. Censorship shouldn't even be a problem. I can turn on the TV and see a Victoria's Secret commercial or look at a newspaper and see Target has a sale on bras and panties. WTH, why would in-game lingerie be any more offensive than the crap we have in print ads and television commercials. It just sounds to me that NC Soft censored themselves out of the belief that all Americans are die-hard Christians or something and that people wouldn't buy the game with underwear.

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Actually, our socioculture is dictated by the Christians. I won't go into details cause this thread will get locked down in a heart beat. I'm surprised it hasn't been yet after your post.

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Actually its not a discussion about religion so there is no reason for it to be locked. I know censorship is the way it is because of Christians, there is no need for discussion or debate on that issue nor am I in any way degrading any religion. I just pointed out NC Soft MAY think this way and I'm saying they are incorrect to think that way, if they did in fact think that way...... :confused:...lol

MalineII
02-18-2006, 04:11 AM
It can't be a matter of censorship.

Not while DE and orc girls roam freely.

Taraza
02-18-2006, 04:38 AM
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Not while DE and orc girls roam freely.

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hmmmm, they must have wandered from my bedroom, guide them back please :)

_Charmille_
02-18-2006, 07:03 AM
Dont like skinny elves >.> When you elfboys become men, I might even consider it, but as long as you're more girly than human females, no thanks >.>

raorkan
02-18-2006, 12:30 PM
I love the look of the underwear and swimsuit and I'll be very pleased if it's put in the game in a futur chronique.
But a friend of mine told me that lineage 2 in korea is forbidden to people under 18 years, so I understand the position of NC North America, Lineage 2 is rated for teen and they don't want to take the risk to get a worse content rating.

Kiranya
02-18-2006, 12:59 PM
I've seen this thread somewhere... before... ... ... :D Argh!

Elrohir
02-18-2006, 01:15 PM
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I've seen this thread somewhere... before... ... ... :D Argh!

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Hmmm, me too. Should I post a link to it here or just bump the old one... :)

FateSaber
02-18-2006, 02:37 PM
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I really don't understand why they didn't have underwear. Censorship shouldn't even be a problem. I can turn on the TV and see a Victoria's Secret commercial or look at a newspaper and see Target has a sale on bras and panties. WTH, why would in-game lingerie be any more offensive than the crap we have in print ads and television commercials. It just sounds to me that NC Soft censored themselves out of the belief that all Americans are die-hard Christians or something and that people wouldn't buy the game with underwear.

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Im also tired of the censorship we americans have to endure. We get the dub down watered version i guess. :(

FateSaber
02-18-2006, 02:45 PM
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Dont like skinny elves >.> When you elfboys become men, I might even consider it, but as long as you're more girly than human females, no thanks >.>

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This is the best post ive read all day, as long as you're more girly then human females... rofl

Wyzeguy
02-18-2006, 02:52 PM
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I've seen this thread somewhere... before... ... ... :D Argh!

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Now that you mention it . . .
I'm pretty sure I read about it.

The REAL reason we can't have underwear in Lineage ][ had something to do with

Ye'll ALL GO BLIND!!!

Iskan_Dar
02-18-2006, 02:54 PM
i'm actually kind of amused. I'm sure they censored the underwear simply because it IS underwear. **** outfits are fine, call them underwear, and they're not. it is just the way our culutre works. s'ok, I've seem my WC in manticore and plate armor, the actual underwear is more than a little tame after that, ya know.

SPS
02-18-2006, 04:11 PM
o.O (http://boards.lineage2.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=spoiler&Number=298712&page =2&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)

Splatter
02-18-2006, 04:24 PM
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The question you should ask is: Why would in game lingerie be any more offensive than 90% of female dark elven and orcish outfits?

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Where did this come from? I don't know how you can included the orc women in with the de women on that one..... :confused:

_Charmille_
02-18-2006, 05:25 PM
Hmm, maybe it's just me or are these clothes (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=itempic6408325cy.jpg) perhaps a bit too revealing? How about this one (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=itempic6408627yz.jpg) or hmm, this? (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot004089sd.jpg)

^^

Splatter
02-18-2006, 05:34 PM
The first two are wedding gowns and don't count. The third one is covering all needed parts. But the de's are almost always bare.

_Charmille_
02-18-2006, 05:40 PM
The third one could be much more revealing if it was a close zoom ;) Dont really have much more than leather thongs and a few pieces of metal on me :P

MalineII
02-18-2006, 06:02 PM
Made a newbie orc recently? They have the same kind of strappy bra as DEs. The orcs' outfits just look more ragged, and thus less sultry.

Splatter
02-18-2006, 06:22 PM
I have around 10 orc characters, but none of them are women.

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The orcs' outfits just look more ragged, and thus less sultry.

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I don't know... i'd take a orc woman over a DE any day.

Elrohir
02-18-2006, 06:46 PM
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I don't know... i'd take a orc woman over a DE any day.

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Only if you want death by snu snu.

Orla
02-18-2006, 08:28 PM
Knowing asians and anime, I'd say the lack of Lingery would not be due to DE or large Orcs in Loin Cloths but more likely due to Female Dwarfs, which I never see mentionned in this thread.

That alone could explain alot.

FateSaber
02-18-2006, 09:10 PM
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Knowing asians and anime, I'd say the lack of Lingery would not be due to DE or large Orcs in Loin Cloths but more likely due to Female Dwarfs, which I never see mentionned in this thread.

That alone could explain alot.

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Do they have undies in asian game for dwarfs, only seen a few pics of DE/human, i no we have BW armor thats got undies.... handstands anyone ? :D

But i dont see why we dont get this, its not hard to web search if your looking for animie stuff its all over the place and anyone can see it, so why is it the company has it in one version (asian) of the game and not the other (NA), i just dont understand.

Taraza
02-18-2006, 10:17 PM
should see an orc female mystic in Avadon or Maj, I forget which one and which type :confused:, but its pretty revealing. Tokara would know what I'm talking about

MalineII
02-19-2006, 01:15 AM
Bright pink and covering.

They're actually much less revealing than the panties they flash in their various short-skirted outfits.

RealDiem
02-19-2006, 03:33 AM
Well, im not sure if this post will be deleted or not (well, im not sure if im allowed to post it ^^), but this stuff is allready in the game.

MalineII
02-19-2006, 03:54 AM
We just want it on a safe, official release. I know the modifications are possible, but I don't want to put myself at risk by playing something like that onto my client.

Thinkaboutitmuch
02-19-2006, 05:14 AM
Long thread but bottomline is that the L2NA office most likely had a visit from some old dudes with value's of 2 centuries ago (about what is and what is not appropriate to view when it comes to underwear etc).

It is silly and it remains silly that we are not "allowed" to see the underwear in the game. Frankly I would care less if it is/was viewable at all but that's what you get from old prunes in charge of cencureship.

Anyone ever go to the beach during summertime?
Well then, I think we can all say that what we do see there could be deemed inappropriate in the first place. Hell, with that kind of cencureship we should enforce PG13 beaches and what not.

Jadan
02-19-2006, 09:22 AM
I wonder if they could put it ingame if they called it cloth leisure armor :p, its funny how nutty fundamentalists can be. Hooray for people placeing their values on me (I happen to be a cristian just not the crazy tell other poeple how to live their life kind) and as for children playing this game Parents should always know what their kids are up to and if this game is objectional to them then keep them from playing it..what a novel idea parents parenting and not relying on games and tv to babysit. I can think of many better reasons to keep kids from playing L2 then underware, ie. violence in media can corrupt the mind of children at certain impressional ages However the news does a great job of giving the wee little ones there daily dose of Violence and hate. So what to do? Parents should Parent. /end rant
:eek:

RealDiem
02-19-2006, 10:23 AM
Well, like Thinkaboutitmuch said NA/EU isnt 'allowed' to see the pants. U dont have to put anything on ur client, u have it allready. Well, i dont really need the underwear at all, but it would be great if we had more formalwaer in L2 (as a suggestion ^^) Fishing would be more fun with the training/sports dress :)

Wyzeguy
02-19-2006, 11:17 AM
Korea is a good Christian country.
But I really don't think NC/NA is influenced at all by Christian values.
It's more the ESRB, which as far as anyone can tell, is of no faith. Gotta keep it teen.

And honestly, some of the players of Lineage ][ don't give me confidence that there wouldn't be lots and lots of underwear stupidity.

I remember in WoW clever players shouting they'd strip and do a poledance for 1g. :p

_Akjosch_
02-19-2006, 11:20 AM
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Well, like Thinkaboutitmuch said NA/EU isnt 'allowed' to see the pants. U dont have to put anything on ur client, u have it allready.

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We're not?

I wonder if I have a different client from everyone else, then: PIC1 (http://www.vernideas.de/l2akjosch/djbuffer-casting.jpg) PIC2 (http://www.vernideas.de/l2akjosch/djhealer-casting.jpg)

(Modeling kindly und unknowningly provided by DJbuffer - the human - and DJhealer - the elf)

Don't get me started about Vycona's new outfit ... :o

Wyzeguy
02-19-2006, 11:26 AM
By underwear, we're not talking about the current set of graphics in the game.

There's an actual underwear equipment slot, but currently we have no items to put in those slots.

There's some examples at this old thread. (http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=grph&message.id=14790)

_Akjosch_
02-19-2006, 01:51 PM
I know what you're talking about, Wyzeguy. It's just that the notion the NA/EU users aren't, somehow, "allowed" to see underwear just can't be true, because we do see them. Just not when our toons are naked, strangely.

MalineII
02-19-2006, 01:56 PM
Thanks for illustrating my point. It seems elves wear different panties under Divine than usual, or maybe I just haven't seen Mielle's in too long (almsot 10 levels, whee).

Either way, given the imagery already in game, it's hard to believe indeed that there is a rating restriction in place preventing its introduction.

People got sick of /socialwaitinga on dark elves eventually - I'm sure if that has mostly diminished as joke material, so would underwear.

Danielle
02-22-2006, 01:38 AM
Yea Dark Elf women in Majestic Robe or Talum Plate would serve quite well for underwear textures lol. This is already in the game and these armor pieces look a lot more risque than any typical underwear they might add.

And if it's a censorship issue, exactly why do all the females who wear skirts have them fly up in the air to show underwear whenever they make the slightest movement? I'm a female and I'm not offended by it, but I think it is kind of amusing.

DPS
01-31-2008, 08:04 PM
who cares?

AshaneFB
01-31-2008, 09:52 PM
This thread delivers....

A package.

/run