Class Transfer Quests - Shillen Elder

[Akirah]

OMG.. what was NcSoft thinking. You are trying to kill mobs, with 1 damage windstrike. The quest for this character should involve undead stuff, since she has absolutely no attack power against other mobs. I practically run out of MP trying to kill mobs with my 1 damage attacks.

Seriously - Root, windstrike (failed) 1 damage, keep shooting, keep hitting, root again and keep killing. This is rediculous. -- Fix this quest or give them some attack power.

[Gronmin]

Sorry if i may offend you but you can kill just as any class. seems that you have play it as a healer and not as a fighter for a change want to see some nice:

SE Xping (http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/1966/shot003082vj.jpg)

that SE was in Enchanted Valley killing Unicorns SOLO same level as the mobs. i just want to tell you if he can solo mobs so can you just give it a try. ;)

[PavlovsDog]

What the OP was having a problem with, I believe, is the second class change quest... the part where they have to kill a mob with magic. What you can try doing is take the mob down to near death with your melee weapons, then nuke away. That is how I did it with my prophet. Don't know if it is the same deal tho.

[Akirah]

No you don't offend me but has the other person stated, I was doing my 2nd class change and the magic spells I have are from lvl 20 so that kind of sucks. We should have upgrade magic until we do our 2nd class change.

[Elrohir]

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Seriously - Root, windstrike (failed) 1 damage, keep shooting, keep hitting, root again and keep killing. This is rediculous. -- Fix this quest or give them some attack power.

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Yep, it sucks but is doable. I just recently completed these quests.

[bekkar]

This does not directly address the issue of quest design, but I have an easy solution for you: bring along someone who can poison the target monster. 1-damage Windstrike may be all you need ;)

[Elrohir]

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This does not directly address the issue of quest design, but I have an easy solution for you: bring along someone who can poison the target monster. 1-damage Windstrike may be all you need ;)

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It also goes to show that some of these quests (even the 1st class change ones like Elven Wizard) are ****-near impossible to do solo. Perhaps this is intentional...

[Wyzeguy]

In that quest, the orc lady says you have to use windstrike to kill the werewolf, else its mates will join in the fray. As far as I could ever tell, there are no other quest monsters waiting to ambush you.

I suspect it's okay to engage in melee, just be sure to get the killing blow with windstrike. Respawn on those mobs is a few minutes if you miss getting the quest item on the first kill.

[Woodsman]

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This does not directly address the issue of quest design, but I have an easy solution for you: bring along someone who can poison the target monster. 1-damage Windstrike may be all you need ;)

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It also goes to show that some of these quests (even the 1st class change ones like Elven Wizard) are ****-near impossible to do solo. Perhaps this is intentional...

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Just done the elven wizard and as a lot of mobs left the dungeon and the bossmobs turned to raidbosses, this one is not that hard anymore. Makes sure to bring healing potions and a lot of ss. Bringing a friend doesnt hurt though.

[righteousOne]

yeah give the healer/buffer classes some type of attack spell or a little more weapon masteries so they can physically kill things. I know these classes are ment to be in parties but often they can't find one and are screwed! everyone else can solo just fine give them something to enable them to as well or for the very least make all the quest mobs they need to kill undead so at least with their disrupt undead spells they can kill something.

[EllieBelly]

I took so long to kill some of the mobs in my class change quests, that people thought I was in danger and killed them for me :P ugh. Maybe the quests are made that annoying on purpose.

[Varaya]

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I took so long to kill some of the mobs in my class change quests, that people thought I was in danger and killed them for me :P ugh. Maybe the quests are made that annoying on purpose.

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Try the 3rd class change quest. Now THAT one is annyoing. First kill 150 mobs in Hot Springs (multi-hp), then go to either Silenos or Orcs and kill 100 mobs for quest items (multi-hp, too), then go to the NPC and he tells you to kill another 300 mobs for quest items (higher lvl, also multi-hp), then you do some running and talking and then you have to kill *700* mobs for quest items. Quite hard to solo as a nuker or other DD, totally impossible for any healer without bringing friends along. Had some fun evenings with that quest :/

[Nanashi_Naomhan]

i think the idea is to teach young healers that thier days of killing mobs solo are over
that being said give the average healer some duals and light armor and with self buffs they have more killing (or should i say staying) power than the average dwarf

[Bluthusten]

The very hardest thing was killing the Lizardman Overlord
with Level 38 and Not-So-Top D-Grade Equipment...

Everything else was a piece of cake...

[Wyzeguy]

I thought the karul bugbears were harder, on account they stun. I remember seeing a lot of stars on those. Anyhow, killing 10 of mobA, 10 of mobB, ... 10 of mobE -- it's not too bad even with robes on. I'd hate to try to grind full time, cuz you go thru ss and mp too fast, but for the quest you have all that running time to regen (from giran to DP and then to wastelands or whatever).

[Glav]

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I took so long to kill some of the mobs in my class change quests, that people thought I was in danger and killed them for me :P ugh. Maybe the quests are made that annoying on purpose.

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Emphasis mine...Ellie has it. You think it's hard enough for an SE to do their class change? TH's-to-be have to kill mobs in their 50's...and with low accuracy, being stunned, and no self bufs, it's **** near impossible.

Or for an archer...you have to kill 200-300 2x hp, fast, magic and stunning mobs for a chance at fighting a quest mob. If you can't kill him, run away, or someone else gets last hit? Whups, you get to do it again!

Or the DA...for their lvl 39 quest, you have to fight a miniboss, and get last hit on him with a crappy little sword. If you accidently crit and kill him without the sword? Yeesh.

So, yeah. Second class changes are hell for everyone. ;)

[bekkar]

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yeah give the healer/buffer classes some type of attack spell or a little more weapon masteries so they can physically kill things. [...]

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[Goddess]

Yes Shillin Oracle need a bit more atck power spell so they can domplete the quest. Our class is magic user then healer/buffer and even EE and other healer/buffer class get high atck spell then we do, might of heaven. We are Dark elves suppose to be one with dark magic even for a Healer class. That said with good weapon and buff and light armor SE solo any mobs that they can heal themself after the fight.

[Jilly]

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Yes Shillin Oracle need a bit more atck power spell so they can domplete the quest. Our class is magic user then healer/buffer and even EE and other healer/buffer class get high atck spell then we do, might of heaven. We are Dark elves suppose to be one with dark magic even for a Healer class. That said with good weapon and buff and light armor SE solo any mobs that they can heal themself after the fight.

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you ALSO didnt read the OP, this mob they are hunting is not undead, the reason you dont get the spells past 40 is you have empower which would way overpower your MoH soloing compared to a LE or bishop soloing.

BTW MoH is a very weak skill, high mp cost and low range. if the mob is agro it will agro you once you get into range to cast, BEFORE you cast. it also does no extra damage due to 'weakness to holy' stat that the mob has. i tested it myself

[Gronmin]

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This does not directly address the issue of quest design, but I have an easy solution for you: bring along someone who can poison the target monster. 1-damage Windstrike may be all you need ;)

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yeah is nice to bring some one to help but she is not addressing the problem she still thinks that she have to use the spells given to her before the first profesion quest and not changing her tactics try to fight like any none-nuker mage class either get a dual, bow, sword & blunt or waste your time with your lowbie spells.

i hope that when you start in sieges you will see alot of healers with either bows and duals you got the masteries use them. you will be surprise as how hard you hit with a bow.

[Stilts]

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OMG.. what was NcSoft thinking. You are trying to kill mobs, with 1 damage windstrike. The quest for this character should involve undead stuff, since she has absolutely no attack power against other mobs. I practically run out of MP trying to kill mobs with my 1 damage attacks.

Seriously - Root, windstrike (failed) 1 damage, keep shooting, keep hitting, root again and keep killing. This is rediculous. -- Fix this quest or give them some attack power.

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I sorta cheated on that quest and my EE quest. I have an SR with plated leather and emi bow. Ever see an EE or SE dressed like an SR? I got tired of 1 dmg. So I hit them. Did more damage that way but still took to long so I said to hell with it. Got the gear. Root shoot shoot. **** I critted more then my SR.

And the quests for EE and SE suck big time. What the heck do they even have to do with the profession?

I agree whole heartedly. The quests for your change class should in some way reflect what you will become. Healers dont kill. Maybe a mission where we have to keep someone alive or something.