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Spudnik
02-28-2006, 03:00 PM
howdy.

just a note to a few players looking for the new build for their class, i am posting my Bishop C grade builds 1 2 and 3; also Prophet build 1 and 2; later on i might post an SE build or two, but for now only the proph and Bish.

Bishop build 1 : focusing on healing.

healers want LOTS of mp, fast casting and dont mind to loose some of their own hp (being a human we have pretty ok hp already).

C grade:
Stats: Str+0, Dex+0, Con+0, Int-1, Wit+5, Men-4
Equipment:
armor; divine robes (mp bonus +171 on top of 500+ mp just from the shirt and pants, wit+1 int-1)
Weapon; Homunukulus with Conversion SA.
Tattoos; Wit+4 Men-4

Cost for build: Divine robe set can be bought for anywhere between 4 and 5.5M based on server etc; Homunukulus = between 6 and 9m based on crystal price per server (needs 1075 C crystals and 5375 D crystals; buy a Delu sword or DarkScreamer or some weapon worth 1720 C crystals and exchange it freely at mammon.)
Putting the SA on your homunukulus takes 306 C gemstones,187k adena, and the Green lvl 7 crystal. can be done at any blacksmith. based on tax rate this can cost you between 500k and 900k for the crystal, the gemstones between 3k and 3.8k each based on tax rate (918k-1.163m).
Tattoo dyes bought from mammon are 174k each for the +4-4 kind. (need 10 dyes = 1.74m aa)
total = 19.4m at highest cost (= u got scammed). no bsps for healing.

Build number 2:the speed healer. this is just a switch between using Acumen as SA on homunukulus or Conversion. if u use acumen mind that the buff stacks on your SA (or did in C3 iirc). and will push your speed to near or over 1000 casting speed with the wit tattoo. total cost is the same, but you will burn mp like candy. same price as build 1.

build 3 is the "battle bishop" if such a thing exists.

for this u use heavy armor (composition or Full plate at C grade) and duals, with Dex tattoos and Str tattoos. damage output wont be nearly what any melee class can do, but you WILL hold your own on the playfield.
Stats: Str+4,Dex+4,Con-8,Int+0,Wit+4,Men-4
Equipment:
armor: as i said before heavy is the way to go, preferably Full plate with Fp helm but no shield.
Weapons: you want guidance duals because you have already focus as one of your buffs. good guidance duals are dual shamshir. and they look phoenomenal. hard to find tho. too bad. otehr option is dual spirits for the +25% hp SA. its good cos u got low low con. bad cos u give up your guidance. bad also cos they are pricey.
tattoos: +4 str-4con, +4dex-4con, +4wit-4men. with the wit tattoo, you will heal yourself faster if you get into t-r-o-u-b-l-e.

Cost. this is indeed the most expensive build as FP armor and FP helms can independently run 5m each. shamshir duals will need to be home-made (6m for each shamshir) and at that need +4 or more (500k or more each) to get guidance. tattoos each are 1.74m as stated earlier. all this runs you into 18.5m conservatively. if you have higher prices than these listed on your server, you can run into 25-30m depending if blow the duals a couple times or if you go into the dual spirits.

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Now the Prophet.

as a prophet there are 2 options for you apart from regular propheteering.
1) battle prophet
2) baddass party prophet.

lets do them in order.

Similar to the battle bishop, the battle prophet also has the focus buff, but also has guidance, deathwhisper and some others. so what this prophet needs is Health duals. again FP for heavy armor, and really pumping on the Wit will make it faster to heal himself. thusly;

Stats: Str+4, Dex+4, Con-8, Int+0,wit+4, Men-4

Equipment:
Armor: FP and Fp helm but no shield.
Weapons: dual Spirit Swords (averaging 20m) which need +4 or better for the health+25% SA to take effect. without it, youre lookin at a dual for which you already have a buff. so its pointless.
Tattoos: STR+4 Con-4, Dex+4 Con-4, Wit+4 Men-4.

cost is the same as the battle bishop.

build 2: the baddass party buffer.

Stats: Str-8, Dex+4, Con+4, Int+0, Wit+4, Men-4.

Equipment: for this to work effectively, you will need a lot of MP to cast your buffs, and some speed to cast with but the biggest bonus is in the HP side. BTB and this con tatoo will boost you up a big amount. so u can take a hit and feel no ill effects so long as you arent neglected by your tank.

Armor: Go with Karmian set. runs cheap and get a pdef bonus and 15% casting speed. no need for humu now :)
Weapon: its a matter of preference here. if you want to take a hit and feel nothing, bring a shield and buff urself, or whip out a humunukulus and be a wicked fast buffer. if you get conversion on that badboy youll be pressed to run out of mana. if you do tho, watch out for downtime. youll be down 60% longer. priced accordingly, a crystal staff with Mana Up mostly is a good balance of mana and downtime, but no shield means no self buff.
Tattoos: Dex+4 Str-4, Con+4 Str-4, Wit+4 Men-4. the reason for the dex tatoo is for those who actually buff with dagger and shield/ sword and shield. higher dex means better shield blocking rate and faster run speed/better evasion.

Cost. karmian is cheap. shirt 1.8m highest ive seen it. gloves and pants 1m each.
homu or other C sword if you use sword at all = upwards of 6m. crystal staff 4m (with MU pay no more than 5m) good shield at that lvl is a chain shield or go for looks and get a brig shield. whatever u prefer its over 500k.
tatoos are 1.74m each. pick and choose if u dont like the build.

either way theres easily 15m for the sword variation, as low as 8m no tattoos no shield.

please post your own variants on EE SE or any other class. although there really isnt much point to tripping a HE in robes :p

EllieBelly
02-28-2006, 05:04 PM
Bishops only get robe and light armor mastery, wearing heavy would be sort of stupid.

SpoiledPrincess
03-01-2006, 02:15 AM
agreed. Wearing the armor they get masteries in will be more beneficial in all aspects. Casting speed wouldn't be hurt in the least, and I'm fairly certain they would have better p.def with light armor then they would with heavy, simply because they don't get any heavy armor masteries. The closest thing would be the general armor mastery that you got as a mystic. Still the benefit of wearing robe or light is much greater then trying for heavy.

Spudnik
03-01-2006, 07:29 AM
as much as i appreciate that, look at the C grade light armor.

it sux.

B grade light armor is a whole 'nother story. i could understand a bishop in light armor at B grade, but not before. not even with the pdef increases. thats is why i put in the wit tattoo. ever tried casting robeless? daaaaaaam slow. but the wit tattoo does help that out. still slow, but greater battle heal makes up for it.

EllieBelly
03-01-2006, 08:24 AM
Greater battle heal is also a mp hog. No healer in their right mind should be using that for anything but 'omg that person will die in 2 seconds' or siege healing.

Of course other than maybe BW light, no healer (EE, SE, bishop) should consider light armor after D grade anyway.

Spudnik
03-01-2006, 08:48 AM
indeed. healers werent meant to be built like tanks, but it can be done. to a lesser extent.

its as the PR/SR class using daggers to conserve MP for their PVP bow skills. they dont get dagger skills but they use what theyve learned in the past to help them solo with a good dagger until they need the power or the bow.

EllieBelly
03-01-2006, 09:21 AM
I don't know about PR's but SR's did initially have SOME dagger skills. Bishops never get any heavy masteries.

PleChan
03-01-2006, 12:28 PM
IF a healer use heavy armors there atk speed get penelised, by a LOT

trust my word for it, go and check it yourself, this was at least the case in C3, also the main case why you don't have heavy armor. And no I'm not talking about casting speed here, but actually atk speed.

Thats just one of very many reasons why you shouldnt use heavy.

EllieBelly
03-01-2006, 12:57 PM
No argument here. I think you'd have to be an idiot to use heavy on a healer.