All Bark no Bite

[AURAGIN]

Im just wondering why Requime, KNowing LS was being fought at ToI 6th with 3 groups, along with G4b and clannies in route, decided it was ok to go raid. Wasnt it your clan that was all gun *** about taking these guys down?

Now that people areready and willing to go kill, you decide to leave?

Interesting.....

[Pobednik]

while two fools fight, a genious uses the opportunity for own ends.

[mswari]

are they still fighting at 6th?

[Seregon]

it was a raid between lvl 55 - 65.
The leader gave order everyone 65+ to go toi !

We talked since two weeks to do a raid for the lower chars. give them a chance to see how is raiding.
it was a bad timing.


we were late but killed some RR

[Pobednik]

are ls and rr are alts of which clan/alliance again?

[mswari]

i heard they are pignation alts

[Jetta]

Naw Pignation is with MagicSword I think.

[DeSalv0r]

I am wondering from what alliance you are ?

And i am wondering if your alliance was one of them didnt even reply or answer me when i tried to set up such a thing 3 months before !!!!

I am almost sure that it is like that then only people who offered help were solidarity, invictus, GGm rep and ours.
Not much 3 months before when i said RR is getting to strong.

But people complaining now didnt realize it cause they could be more selfish and do their high lvl raids where RR and LS didnt disturb them in thah time.
Why are all helping now ?
Cause all got problems.,

Our Raid was organised form a member who didnt raid since he started game !
Cause of RR and LS we never tried it anymore.


I just didnt want to stomb on his motivation.
And finally i brought all my raidgroup to toi and with help from rep and gg and many others ( CD, IB, ... ) we whiped them.
We went on for the whole evening.

So for me and most of my ally it was like :

come from work -> killing some RBs lower lvl to show some members fun in game -> killing RR and LS all the evening -> bed.

If you are still complaining .. complain about yourself .. i am sure you didnt even PM me when i tried to start such an action long before ..

thank you a lot and have fun .. thats my statement.
And i am sure you will find enough people who counts on us too and know that its worth it ...

and yes, iam angry about it !

[Pobednik]

people dont realize they might lose something till after they actually lose it. then they try to get it back and their action backfires. then they do a revolution and build something else, new!
rince and repeat.

[Bighands]

I wouldn't sweat it DeSalv0r, there's going to be times when not 100% of everyone can be there.

The OP is just trying to stir up some problems.
I know last night, I spent a pretty good amount of time working off Karma with one of your guys. ;)

[AURAGIN]

Understand your situation, but myself and most from SW were under impression you guys were coming to ToI and help, not going to do own raids. Apparently it was a coomunication problem, much like everything is.

The problem three months ago was that finding them and getting everyone to that location. Now with hero chat we dont need to pm every living person, helps alot. Also I dont think all invilved now realized 3 months ago the possible problem these people could contain.

Thanks for showing up though at the end, mad a huge difference ^^

[bodrigal]

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while two fools fight, a genious uses the opportunity for own ends.

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o rly?

[DeSalv0r]

Btw.
can we pls work a bit more on shift time plans ?

I just heard mS tried / did baium today 2 hours before.
SO .. whats up ?
sorr,y i am at work as most of my ally is.
We only can do actions at our evenings.

So ... we need to get up all other US / non-euro allys, too.

Whats up with solid, redemption, WLE, Gustinion Empire ?
Gather your people and try to cover our daytimes.
We need to make pressure ALL daytimes .. not only 4 hours a day.

Stand up or we cant win it ...

just some impressions about it ...
I was a bit sad that nobody started a contra amry today when rr is raiding baium !!

[Durgoth]

[ QUOTE ]
Understand your situation, but myself and most from SW were under impression you guys were coming to ToI and help, not going to do own raids. Apparently it was a coomunication problem, much like everything is.

The problem three months ago was that finding them and getting everyone to that location. Now with hero chat we dont need to pm every living person, helps alot. Also I dont think all invilved now realized 3 months ago the possible problem these people could contain.

Thanks for showing up though at the end, mad a huge difference ^^

[/ QUOTE ]

You do realize that doing raids HELPS us in the end right? We can't just camp the same boss for 4 hours and keep killing them. They move. While were out killing LS, I WANT clans and alliances taking out bosses. Thats the whole reason were doing this. They were there with us the other day, and went red just like the rest.

I dont care who kills a boss in the end, but they all need to go down to actual players before we leave. The other day, LS came back and dropped the 2 we left standing afterwards.

I dont think we can question anyones dedication after a whooping 3 days of this campaign lol

[DeSalv0r]

Sure, thats the point.

We must work together ... but i understand that when RR and LS are in PVP and the "Partners" are to weak/ outnumbered at that moment we have to jump in.

And ... its very important to keep killing them when they are spotted just to get some time off them.
So we have to do it all.

Killing RBs / Killing MS / scouting MS.
But hionestly our raid wasnt plan to get down MS bosses cause our bosses were all too low,.

The higher bosses were done after all the PvP and things.

Anyway ... i need to keep up my alliance, too.
And i think we did some proves for standing behind that action to be one day out of it.

Anyway .. we were sending some of our people there WHILE we were raiding ( all the higher levels who didnt help there ) and jumped in with our whole raid party when i heard its getting a whipe.
I was the one jumping in vent of Republic and GG and asked for support ( and thx they were coming ) ... ..
and believe me .. its not an easy work to manage a raid, being in ts to organize and start talking in vent at same time.

I think i tried my best without crashing my raid after 2 Bosses we took.

Anyway .... we need mroe support at daytimes.
We need at least someone preventing MS raids so we can take them all out at evenings.
If we can get most bosses respawn at evenings we almost have one as it seems cause with the people who were there yesterday we took them all down in some seconds ,.

Btw .. my assist macro was too slow ^^

Lets just go on and do a bit more pressure next days.
We need more allys who give some victims for some days so that we can get gustin free of MS.

[Nanashi_Naomhan]

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I dont care who kills a boss in the end, but they all need to go down to actual players before we leave. The other day, LS came back and dropped the 2 we left standing afterwards.

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that's a good point

[Bighands]

Desalvor, you point out the biggest problem of all with the farmers.

Between Euro and NA, the vast majority of us range from say GMT -8 to GMT +2. With a 10hr spread, there's going to be problems during the week from about 0800 GMT, until say 1700 GMT. The vast majority of NA peeps will be asleep during that time, and as you point out, the majority of Euro are at work.

There are, of course, people playing during that period, but I'm not sure if it's enough to continue fighting MS and taking down bosses all at the same time. :(

Does anyone know of any clan or alliance leaders who play mostly between 0800 GMT (Midnight PST) and 1700 GMT (9 am PST)???? Someone who can organize the peeps and cotinue carrying the torch?

[Nanashi_Naomhan]

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Does anyone know of any clan or alliance leaders who play mostly between 0800 GMT (Midnight PST) and 1700 GMT (9 am PST)???? Someone who can organize the peeps and cotinue carrying the torch?

[/ QUOTE ]

too lazy to do the maths to convert that
i'd guess thats when i play
noone is ever on unless they are pulling an all-nighter or have time off work
if you magically turned all the 50+ into 70+ toons id guess there wouldnt be enough to take out a raid boss :P

i think if you keep up what you are doing you might shift the majority of bosses into your timezone and make their bussiness a little less profitable ^^

[Bighands]

If we can grind em up during our times, it will cut into their profit significantly. Dunno how much of a hit they can take to the bottom line before they decide to make their money another way, I reckon we shall see. ;)

[Nanashi_Naomhan]

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Dunno how much of a hit they can take to the bottom line before they decide to make their money another way, I reckon we shall see.

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mwahahahaha

cant wait for you guys to drop the EA/W A prices back to a sane lvl

[DeSalv0r]

Ok, ill come to your vent later salao.

Just need to get some sineaters done before ^^

[Littebunny]

Has anyone tried to pm takemeout in game? As far as I know, We were asked to help fight MS/RR, but declined because PIG had just warred us, and didn't want to fight on too many fronts. I am currently busy with college so my information may be outdated.

Best bet is to contact him ingame, because he is either playing or busy in RL so he doesn't check forums much.

[DeSalv0r]

kk, will do it tonight ...

would be nice to have your vent data or something via PM , mail, ingame mail or whatever ;)

Thx and bb

[Pobednik]

[ QUOTE ]
Desalvor, you point out the biggest problem of all with the farmers.

Between Euro and NA, the vast majority of us range from say GMT -8 to GMT +2. With a 10hr spread, there's going to be problems during the week from about 0800 GMT, until say 1700 GMT. The vast majority of NA peeps will be asleep during that time, and as you point out, the majority of Euro are at work.

There are, of course, people playing during that period, but I'm not sure if it's enough to continue fighting MS and taking down bosses all at the same time. :(

Does anyone know of any clan or alliance leaders who play mostly between 0800 GMT (Midnight PST) and 1700 GMT (9 am PST)???? Someone who can organize the peeps and cotinue carrying the torch?

[/ QUOTE ]

i know of some people who work the second shift (3 pm till 11 or something like that). i'll talk to them, and see where they stand with this whole thing. maybe something could be worked out.

[Littebunny]

well ingame email is just the persons name I.E Littlebunny or Takemeout.

[AURAGIN]

[ QUOTE ]
Sure, thats the point.

We must work together ... but i understand that when RR and LS are in PVP and the "Partners" are to weak/ outnumbered at that moment we have to jump in.

And ... its very important to keep killing them when they are spotted just to get some time off them.
So we have to do it all.

Killing RBs / Killing MS / scouting MS.
But hionestly our raid wasnt plan to get down MS bosses cause our bosses were all too low,.

The higher bosses were done after all the PvP and things.

Anyway ... i need to keep up my alliance, too.
And i think we did some proves for standing behind that action to be one day out of it.

Anyway .. we were sending some of our people there WHILE we were raiding ( all the higher levels who didnt help there ) and jumped in with our whole raid party when i heard its getting a whipe.
I was the one jumping in vent of Republic and GG and asked for support ( and thx they were coming ) ... ..
and believe me .. its not an easy work to manage a raid, being in ts to organize and start talking in vent at same time.

I think i tried my best without crashing my raid after 2 Bosses we took.

Anyway .... we need mroe support at daytimes.
We need at least someone preventing MS raids so we can take them all out at evenings.
If we can get most bosses respawn at evenings we almost have one as it seems cause with the people who were there yesterday we took them all down in some seconds ,.

Btw .. my assist macro was too slow ^^

Lets just go on and do a bit more pressure next days.
We need more allys who give some victims for some days so that we can get gustin free of MS.

[/ QUOTE ]

I understand taking raidbosses while LS, is occupied is good, i agree. Problem was, and desalvor hit it on the nose was; we didnt have the numbers running up there. We had 1 and ahalf parties, with maybe another part dead on the ground. It all turned out fine at the end cause they should up and helped us roll EVERY single one of them.

[Jareka]

Well the newly formed SemperFi alliance, formed by the GuardianKnights, is willing to add what might we can to helping in the fight against MS whenever we have ppl available. For more info pm me here and I will put you in touch with leaders so something may be worked out.

[Durgoth]

Go check out the thread up on L2O by Greenface (Tamburash). Funny **** picture lol

[SeeLanaa]

Let's try that: Link (http://www.censoredboardname.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=153110)

(Change the "censoredboardname" with the name of the laggy board which can't be named here)