Gold Fields

[MelaQuinn]

We all love finding an adena field when running to our favorite hunting spot. Its one thing that everyone likes to see. Makes our day. What I'd like is to have some of our older players roll a newbie toon and just spend a few lvls making a gold field in their favorite newbie zone. It doesn't have to be much, 5 or 6 lvls of killing, but it does make things fun for new players just starting out. Pick a server, doesn't have to be your home server, pick a newbie zone and just kill for awhile. Yes, I know we have some players who would be jerks and clean out that freshly made field, but maybe they might remember how it felt when they first started out. Make it a kind of pay back time. Maybe someone helped you out with gear or a weapon or adena when you first started out. This would be a way of passing along that feeling. Remember that feeling when you got your first full drop? Non-grade pants! Whooooohooo!!!

[DrakkosIV]

This is a fun idea!

Just remember that maintenance will wipe clean any drops laying around.
That's not a problem, per se--it just means that if you want the glitter field to be around for the max time that it would be best to create the glitter field right after Tuesday maintenance.

This doesn't guarantee that your adena field will last till the next tuesday since even a brief unplanned maintenance will clear the ground--but it at least gives a better chance for the glitter field to last longer.

[xDarwinx]

Yeah, make the feild, then hide behind a tree and kill all the nooblets that try to pick it up. And yell about how they are trying to steal your drop.

[Trensharo]

Why waste time and effort doing this when it will only be old players running alts through the zone with a nostromo spamming pickup to make adena?

Also, why would a new player do this when they can come read these boards and find out that you can make 100x more stealing from legit players grinding in higher areas?

[MelaQuinn]

Do you remember the first gold field you found?

That OoooOOoo feeling?

Thats what I want to give a few newbie players. Yes, there may be some rerolls being jerks, but I would hope that true new players would benefit from the giddy joy of finding a small field. Im not suggesting you spend hours and hours, just a few lvls. 1-7 takes about 15 minutes and you leave behind, at the most, a few thousand adena worth of drops. Not much, but a fun help to fresh players.

[MysticMare]

LOL :P i remeber cleaning up a farmers adena field one night, ended up loosing like 8% exp (because they kept pking me xD) doing it but gained 8mil in the process, was fun :P

[Spudnik]

i frequently leave adena in Nornil's cave.

just go down there and blast blast blast with a higher lvl toon for the sake of making adena drop even tho it rarely drops.

i take a Paladin + SE box, and train like 3/4 of the place into one particular corner, and pull out a pole.

ys it only hits 4 mobs at a time, but more adena drops that way.

[Mournelythe]

I would often go to the starting point of a race, and drop a few thousand adena on the ground. I'd drop them in stacks of 50, and spell out the words "Welcome to Lineage!".

[NoldorMight]

New players might think it's NCSoft's treat. Now, you don't want them to get the wrong idea, do you? :D

[DrakkosIV]

I STILL love glitter fields. Recently I picked up 2.2 million in Fotd. No one around over 3 evenings I logged in there.
Always nice to get a pay bonus that was not expected!

As for higher players with rerolls--are you kidding? (lol)
When I reroll an alt I'm not going to waste 20 minutes picking up 20k in piles of 112 adena!
I'm thinking most others would see it the same.

[NoldorMight]

I agree with the idea, just not quite with the "Welcome to L2" part -- unless you take the time to sign it, "Your fellow players".

[___Darkrich___]

Sometimes I go to noob areas, drop a few k stacks and some heal potions or something, just for fun in the hope maybe some new player will see it and go wtf, cool.

Of course some bot or alt probably gets its most times, but you never know.

[Tamoh]

I'd have to agree, finding glittering fields of treasure is fun...at least for me...regardless of my level. :) As far as leaving treasure for others, I've been doing this for the past two days on one of my lowbie toons, actually. I'm playing a nuker so it's easy to do since the process of nuking then running to pick up is annoying after awhile, but I also felt it would be fun to leave everything there for someone to pick up. A gal actually came through and started to pick up my treasures and stopped when she saw me, but I pm'ed her to let her know it was okay. :) She sounded excited to claim it all. It sure made my day. :)

I especially think it's a good idea for us folks with higher toons (be it agrade or sgrade) to leave the drops when we roll low toons since (as other have already stated) I really don't see the point in picking up thousands of piles of 12 adena when it's really not going to benefit me like it would someone just starting out. I've made a habit of it. My only concern is the potential lag it might cause, but emptier low-lvl areas don't seem to suffer from it...so it's all good! :)

It's great to do a service to others when I remember all the times it was done for me...yay for Karma!

[wringlin]

+1 gold field on Hinde!!!!

i loved this idea cuz i know how much fun it was starting put to find those random fields. :)

[Neumond]

I always had the feeling gold fields are not claimed any more nowadays by anyone and just get deleted at maintenances :(
So mostly I pick them up when I see them, even though I am far from needy *emberassed*

Anyway my earliest association with gold fields is not one of "ooooo" but of stern warnings of my clan friends to never ever pick them up with any player near, cause people would use it as an excuse to PK me. T_T

[CrushMaster]

Its still fun to find these gold fields. Can easily get 1-2mil at a time.

[Gaarheid]

come on when ur cdling its not fun

[UpiryGirl]

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Anyway my earliest association with gold fields is not one of "ooooo" but of stern warnings of my clan friends to never ever pick them up with any player near, cause people would use it as an excuse to PK me. T_T

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I've also been told this.. can I ask a dumb question? I've never understood why a player would leave all their adena lying around if they want it? Does it slow leveling down THAT much? Who wants to spend all that time running around afterwards picking it all up?

/confused

[Spudnik]

consider the following math:

for a nuker or archer with oop buffs and good gear

kill time = 4 seconds (2 shot). running to pick up loot = 12 seconds. total kill time = 16 seconds.

so its BOOSTING your exp per hour by not picking up loot by a factor of 4.

[UpiryGirl]

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consider the following math:

for a nuker or archer with oop buffs and good gear

kill time = 4 seconds (2 shot). running to pick up loot = 12 seconds. total kill time = 16 seconds.

so its BOOSTING your exp per hour by not picking up loot by a factor of 4.

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I never play as a ranged fighter, so maybe that's why it's never made sense to me.

And I hadn't considered buffs! I was just thinking "you're going to have to pick it up eventually, and waste the same amount of time doing it..." But when you're fighting the clock against your buffs wearing off... I guess it makes a lot of sense to leave it and come back.

[AshleyHunter]

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consider the following math:

for a nuker or archer with oop buffs and good gear

kill time = 4 seconds (2 shot). running to pick up loot = 12 seconds. total kill time = 16 seconds.

so its BOOSTING your exp per hour by not picking up loot by a factor of 4.

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I never play as a ranged fighter, so maybe that's why it's never made sense to me.

And I hadn't considered buffs! I was just thinking "you're going to have to pick it up eventually, and waste the same amount of time doing it..." But when you're fighting the clock against your buffs wearing off... I guess it makes a lot of sense to leave it and come back.

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Some don't even care and never come back.

That's when I come in :D

[CimexusSH]

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I was just thinking "you're going to have to pick it up eventually, and waste the same amount of time doing it..."

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Buffs is half the reason why that reasoning is wrong. But there's another reason too.

After killing in the same spot for a few hours, the density of adena on the ground is such that in one little area, there are going to be multiple adena piles. SO you don't really spend the same time in total picking it up, because walking to point X, you can pick up 5 adena piles there instead of just 1, if you were doing it 1 at a time. With a /pickup macro you can clear even a fairly large area in a few minutes.

But if you walk to each drop as it's created, you tend to do a lot of 're-covering the same ground', so it's wasteful.

[Gecklar]

I still hold to the belief that the drops have a timer for you to pick them up, once that timer is up they are fair game. If you want to make a field and get ****** at someone for picking it up its your own **** fault. The loot is protected for you to pick it up for a time after it drops for a reason. If it goes beyond that, its mine, fair and square.

[SneezingTiger]

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consider the following math:

for a nuker or archer with oop buffs and good gear

kill time = 4 seconds (2 shot). running to pick up loot = 12 seconds. total kill time = 16 seconds.

so its BOOSTING your exp per hour by not picking up loot by a factor of 4.

[/ QUOTE ]Maybe. if you walk and if you don't get WW and get slowed and one of the slowing prophecies.

Does not take 12 seconds to run 900 range.

[UpiryGirl]

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I still hold to the belief that the drops have a timer for you to pick them up, once that timer is up they are fair game. If you want to make a field and get ****** at someone for picking it up its your own **** fault. The loot is protected for you to pick it up for a time after it drops for a reason. If it goes beyond that, its mine, fair and square.

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That's kind of how I feel about it... also, the size of the area kind of matters too. If you're grinding/leaving drops around in an area so big that I don't see you, then how important could the drops really be to you? Example: I've seen Alligator Island completely covered all over... and I grind for a while and don't see anyone, so I start picking up drops because who doesn't like free adena? ...only to discover later that the party is on the other side of the island..

[Avanthris]

I am very new to the game, and have found many feilds full of Adena and lowbie items, always wondered how it got there and why. Now I know!

[GreatnessElite]

Anyone know any good high level adena fields for the higher level but still VERY poor :)??

[populus]

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consider the following math:

for a nuker or archer with oop buffs and good gear

kill time = 4 seconds (2 shot). running to pick up loot = 12 seconds. total kill time = 16 seconds.

so its BOOSTING your exp per hour by not picking up loot by a factor of 4.

[/ QUOTE ]Maybe. if you walk and if you don't get WW and get slowed and one of the slowing prophecies.

Does not take 12 seconds to run 900 range.

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as a nuker xping... you *do* walk o.o

[Coeus]

When I started L2 again, earlier this month, I found one of those fields outside the Elven Village.

I loved it.

And I love the idea of doing that for someone else too. Even if there is a chance of it being wasted on a bot. It wasn't wasted on me? So, I feel it is a good chance to take.

[SneezingTiger]

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consider the following math:

for a nuker or archer with oop buffs and good gear

kill time = 4 seconds (2 shot). running to pick up loot = 12 seconds. total kill time = 16 seconds.

so its BOOSTING your exp per hour by not picking up loot by a factor of 4.

[/ QUOTE ]Maybe. if you walk and if you don't get WW and get slowed and one of the slowing prophecies.

Does not take 12 seconds to run 900 range.

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as a nuker xping... you *do* walk o.o

[/ QUOTE ]My point was that unless you have all 4 of those slowing you down it does not take 12 seconds to walk 900 range.

[Gecklar]

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consider the following math:

for a nuker or archer with oop buffs and good gear

kill time = 4 seconds (2 shot). running to pick up loot = 12 seconds. total kill time = 16 seconds.

so its BOOSTING your exp per hour by not picking up loot by a factor of 4.

[/ QUOTE ]Maybe. if you walk and if you don't get WW and get slowed and one of the slowing prophecies.

Does not take 12 seconds to run 900 range.

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as a nuker xping... you *do* walk o.o

[/ QUOTE ]My point was that unless you have all 4 of those slowing you down it does not take 12 seconds to walk 900 range.

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Some people like to stop and take a nap on the roses though.

[Shinnai]

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Anyone know any good high level adena fields for the higher level but still VERY poor :)??

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Chromatics...get some kind of Stealth tho :p

[Trensharo]

With the new M.Crit rate on nukers, it's even worse.

You 1 (in 2 shot areas) or 2 shot (in 3-4 shot areas) so many mobs that you have to run even further and more over a grind session to pick stuff up.

I still don't worry about it, and just keep on top of my Sin Eaters.

Especially for those "High level players that are really poor and need adena", the full % loss PKs can be painful.

So hop on over!

[purp]

You know what really got to me the other day... I was heading over to the Festival Guide to teleport through to the rift and what did I see... adena, everywhere...! INSIDE the **** Festival room. I was like Pepe Le Pew (http://www.purp.co.uk/l2/CT2/PepeLePew.jpg)... **** you... who needs adena sinks when you have 70+ without a care in the world?

:confused:

[Trensharo]

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You know what really got to me the other day... I was heading over to the Festival Guide to teleport through to the rift and what did I see... adena, everywhere...! INSIDE the **** Festival room. I was like Pepe Le Pew (http://www.purp.co.uk/l2/CT2/PepeLePew.jpg)... **** you... who needs adena sinks when you have 70+ without a care in the world?

:confused:

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I never understood why people feel that they don't need their adena, but I think I have come to the realization as to why.

I do allow people to pick up my drops when I don't have that much time left to be online (I can get more XP if I let them pick them up) or when I'm questing (I did that when I was doing Alliance Quest and 700 MOBs). But on a leisurely afternoon, I am very territorial and high agro when people pick up drops that belong to me.

99% of the time when people ask before touching I let them have it simply to reward them for their kindness and courtesy.

Your Pepe Le Pew picture is Funny :)

[Smittie]

It's so much easier to just shout for help. Invite some random guy to party, and share the xp while he/she picks up for you :)

[Aeowen]

i remember my first adena field... no one was around... pick up pick up pick up... CDL from behind..... as someone says my drops. too bad i was dead and again they wernt around for like 5+ minutes... went to town to grab shots i guess.. but i had over half the field picked up.... be careful lowbies... sometimes people are just lazy jerks

[Shinnai]

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But on a leisurely afternoon, I am very territorial and high agro when people pick up drops that belong to me.

99% of the time when people ask before touching I let them have it simply to reward them for their kindness and courtesy.

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Hehe dito. On my main I always pick up, no space for discussion there. But on alts I only start picking around the late 40es. Now if theres a guy that asks if he can pick, I let him. But if someone just comes and starts picking there is a high chance I'll pk him for impoliteness, even tho the drops were supposed to be picked up.

[syler]

Im new to the game and would love to see one of these adena fields!! but after reading this, i now know to look around for the owner before picking!! thx all :P

[ElpyKing]

I think gold fields are to indirect and therefor not effective in helping a new player. Want to help a noob? Get him in an academy and hook em up with D crystals for oath armor. That is the best thing you can do for a new player. Saves you time on killing Gremlins/kelters and not to mention how little they will get from the gold is sad. It is so sad that I do not even pick up anything lvl 20-. Be a good player, adopt a noob! 8)

[Romanec]

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But on a leisurely afternoon, I am very territorial and high agro when people pick up drops that belong to me.

99% of the time when people ask before touching I let them have it simply to reward them for their kindness and courtesy.

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Hehe dito. On my main I always pick up, no space for discussion there. But on alts I only start picking around the late 40es. Now if theres a guy that asks if he can pick, I let him. But if someone just comes and starts picking there is a high chance I'll pk him for impoliteness, even tho the drops were supposed to be picked up.

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One time I was picking up items in the ground and the "owner" attacked me. For his surprise, I took him down and a silly war was almost declared. Tbh, what's impolite is leaving all the items in the ground, creating item lagg and then when every one else can picke them up, claiming they are "yours". Have anyone been in VoS lately? There are (and I am not exagerating) THOUSANDS of arrow drops. It is just impossible to even grind in some spots there.

If you can pick up anything... then it's yours. If it's not yours then you will read "Failed to pick up item".

[Trensharo]

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But on a leisurely afternoon, I am very territorial and high agro when people pick up drops that belong to me.

99% of the time when people ask before touching I let them have it simply to reward them for their kindness and courtesy.

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Hehe dito. On my main I always pick up, no space for discussion there. But on alts I only start picking around the late 40es. Now if theres a guy that asks if he can pick, I let him. But if someone just comes and starts picking there is a high chance I'll pk him for impoliteness, even tho the drops were supposed to be picked up.

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One time I was picking up items in the ground and the "owner" attacked me. For his surprise, I took him down and a silly war was almost declared. Tbh, what's impolite is leaving all the items in the ground, creating item lagg and then when every one else can picke them up, claiming they are "yours". Have anyone been in VoS lately? There are (and I am not exagerating) THOUSANDS of arrow drops. It is just impossible to even grind in some spots there.

If you can pick up anything... then it's yours. If it's not yours then you will read "Failed to pick up item".

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Arrow drops are left by bots, not real players. To even associate those arrow drops with most real players who pick up in the manner that we are discussing is foolish.

It takes more time to cherry pick adena off the ground and leave the arrows than it takes to spam pickup everything and just destroy the arrows after you are done.

Arrow trash != the work of a player who leaves their drops on the ground until they leave.

Also, you can turn off item drops, so it is not our fault that you choose to keep them on. The items that drop from the mobs that you kill kill still show for the same amount of time that an herb is available on the ground, so you won't miss anything.

Pot -> Kettle

[Shinnai]

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One time I was picking up items in the ground and the "owner" attacked me. For his surprise, I took him down and a silly war was almost declared. Tbh, what's impolite is leaving all the items in the ground, creating item lagg and then when every one else can picke them up, claiming they are "yours".

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Now why would I care if someone got "item lagg" on MY spot of xp? Also whats impolite in making my xp more efficient by picking up in the end? If you ever played a ranged class you'd know how much timesaving it is to pick up in the end.

[Trensharo]

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One time I was picking up items in the ground and the "owner" attacked me. For his surprise, I took him down and a silly war was almost declared. Tbh, what's impolite is leaving all the items in the ground, creating item lagg and then when every one else can picke them up, claiming they are "yours".

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Now why would I care if someone got "item lagg" on MY spot of xp? Also whats impolite in making my xp more efficient by picking up in the end? If you ever played a ranged class you'd know how much timesaving it is to pick up in the end.

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Don't think they will understand.

It's especially painful when you're the slowest class in the game with this nerfed pickup spam (which makes it now take over half a buffround to pick up an adena field).

I hope they lag badly with agro on them when they see my field and die as a result.

:)

[Rapetout]

What's on the field belongs to the one who picks it up, that's very easy. I never care about people claiming things as their own, even THEIR spot :)

[purp]

The end of gold fields is nigh.

10 minutes and POOF, they're gone.

[TarnVeda]

Only items will disappear - gold remains. Will be nice to not find mass fields of arrows though.

I left a gold field in IT Crater last night. I DC'd, and when I logged back in, some toon was picking up the gold. He apologized and stopped, but I told him it was ok. It felt good.

Why would a nuker not want to pick up the gold? For me, 2 main reasons

1) I don't really need the money. Sure I need to get S grade gear, but a few hundred k is not gonna do much. I make better profit from my dwarf craft and sell shops.

2) It's just so much **** FUN!!

I level a 7x glad, and other toons, it is such a rare treat to play a mid 40's nuker, 1 shot mobs, and make good XP. It is addictive, and I just don't wanna stop killing. I only go out of my way to pick up good drops and mana herbs, and only so I can keep on killing LOL.

And that is why I play the game, to have fun. If you want to find gold fields, just look for TarnAlishia on Aria. I'll be using her at ToIC for several levels yet.. When she's out, the gold is yours if it's not glittering. (* just leave the common item drops for my dwarf to crush ).

[Trensharo]

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Only items will disappear - gold remains. Will be nice to not find mass fields of arrows though.

I left a gold field in IT Crater last night. I DC'd, and when I logged back in, some toon was picking up the gold. He apologized and stopped, but I told him it was ok. It felt good.

Why would a nuker not want to pick up the gold? For me, 2 main reasons

1) I don't really need the money. Sure I need to get S grade gear, but a few hundred k is not gonna do much. I make better profit from my dwarf craft and sell shops.

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Few hundred k?

It's millions of Adena at high 6x levels. I leveled my SPS sub in VoS this week to get my SE a couple levels, and one of my fields had over 5M Adena, tonz mats, 8 lifestones (3 mid grades), and 4 common itmes (kesh and 1 light + 2 robe bottoms). That is not just a few hundred k. Level 4x toons don't really have to worry about fields, but those fields are factorable cash at higher levels. That's why people will PK you for stealing from them...

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2) It's just so much **** FUN!!

I level a 7x glad, and other toons, it is such a rare treat to play a mid 40's nuker, 1 shot mobs, and make good XP. It is addictive, and I just don't wanna stop killing. I only go out of my way to pick up good drops and mana herbs, and only so I can keep on killing LOL.

And that is why I play the game, to have fun. If you want to find gold fields, just look for TarnAlishia on Aria. I'll be using her at ToIC for several levels yet.. When she's out, the gold is yours if it's not glittering. (* just leave the common item drops for my dwarf to crush ).

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Nukers still have to pay for shots and other things to level.

On Devianne the average cost of SBSpS is like 1800-1900 adena and 360a per cursed bone. I'm not 1 shotting mobs at this level. The only way you will 1 shot mobs above level 48 or so is if you have some rather awesome gear in which case you don't need the fields anyways, and they will seem small.

But in level 6x and over the fields are not a few hundred k, they are millions of adena.

Nobody cares about the fields of a level 4x toon. You hardly lose anything grinding at those levels, and what you pick up can't be sold for much of anything, anyways. But at higher levels those fields can equip a level 4x toon, in some cases (depending on how long you've been at a spot).

My fields would probably d/c someome who complains about lag.

On Bartz there were level 4x SM Daggers that used to pick up drops. Since they didnt' like getting PK'd multiple times (PK with SE and just rez her with a scroll :P) they started giving me half of the adena they picked up. I'd still make millions of adena per day on top of my leveling cost + the quest in VoS.

[Silver_Incubus]

If I find a reasonable source of income from adena farming someones spot I use an alt if it dies or gts pk'd return and repeat u lose nothing port fees are made 1000x fold as well as any cost for mob deaths that incur the debuff if you wanna be lazy and not pick ur drops thats cool if I get pk'd enough times I just pay a visit with something that makes em think twice about incurring so many pks ^.^

[Trensharo]

If I find a reasonable source of income from adena farming someones spot I use an alt if it dies or gts pk'd return and repeat u lose nothing port fees are made 1000x fold as well as any cost for mob deaths that incur the debuff if you wanna be lazy and not pick ur drops thats cool if I get pk'd enough times I just pay a visit with something that makes em think twice about incurring so many pks ^.^

Lol.

That sounds pretty stupid.

That, or you think people are stupid.

PK the low levels with an SE (Inquisitor, and pick up drops on main). You can kill he SE and rez with an EE to wipe the Karma.

People who don't have OOP buffers are usually the ones who pick up all their drops anyways, because they don't have a reason to rush.

There are some places (like some camps in FoTD/Valley of Saints) where a low level just can't go in and steal adena, though. The agro mobs will **** them for you.

When I was on Bartz leveling my Necro to 74 in FoTD the mobs would kill all low level toons trying to steal the adena. I could go afk at the port-in for like 2 hours and come back and my field was still there. I remember one of them asking me for a rez, lol.

[SolInBlue]

I just started and feel quitting because i can't get equipped because i dont have adena, would love one of this fields.... where should I look?

[Trensharo]

I just started and feel quitting because i can't get equipped because i dont have adena, would love one of this fields.... where should I look?

Yep, cause 1 Adena field will buy you B Grade, A Grade, or S Grade weapon. You'd have to camp fields and hope someone doesn't PK you on the spot for weeks just to get B Grade gear from Adena Fields. That alone is like 40M or more from the Luxury Shop (Doom/Blue Wolf Sets are much more than the Lux Shop sets, up to like 70M'ish).

For A Grade you're looking at 350-500M+ (depending on server) for a set of gear (Armor Set, Jewels, and Weapon + SA).

If you need adena that bad (if you are not A Grade, you do not need Adena that bad, btw), you should look in your friends list. I joined a clan at level 6 until it imploded when I was 6x, and I didn't have to buy my own gear until I was in A Grade (Almost 7x level). I wore Black Ore Jewels until I was level 70 and had a Homu until 68 when I traded it for a Spiritual Eye w/ Acumen and later sold to buy an SoM at level... 72, IIRC.

That is the way people are meant to progress in this game. Not generate masses of adena to be able to afford everything on the spot. With your attitude, I can see you in top gears within a week, prolly with some epics for later, too.

C Grade can get you to A Grade, for almost every class. I know, cause my roomate's Warsmith just dinged 61 last night with a Full Plate set and a Common Yaska mace + Common C Jewels.

So just go ahead and quit or stop crying about adena. Game has too many whiners already.