Grats First Phoenix Heros

[Shic]

Next month should be even more intersting with all the mmain class changes

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CarpeDiem
Dominator ~ Smokescreen
Storm Screamer ~ Vrag
Eva's Saint ~ ImASweetie
Dreadnaught ~ MadamWhiplash
Elemental Master ~ MysticLance
Ghost Sentinal ~ KoZiiI


NightMare
Fortune Seeker ~ Midge
Titan ~ Flinster
Soultaker ~ CPTJackSparrow
Cardinal ~ Kirith
Eva's Templar ~ Eruan
Wind Rider ~ Mistform
Ghost Hunter ~ Morter
Hell Knight ~ RaptorCore
Hierophant ~ Geral
Mystic Muse ~ Deathie
Doomcryer ~ Saerka
Maestro ~ Mimiko
Soul Hound ~ rmuffin
Arcana Lord ~ ArcaneKnight

ClearlyClueless
Spectral Dancer ~ Gezza
Sword Muse ~ Nostrova
Shilien Saint ~ TyphoonAxe
Grand Khavarti ~ ChosenGuardian02


Ragnarok
Adventurer ~ Adre
Trickster ~ IIPEJlECTb


Divine
Spectral Master ~ Sciblade
Phoenix Knight ~ Karigan
Archmage ~ Evintine
Moonlight Sentinal ~ VeronicaX


Misc
Duelist ~ Lisara (Core Ally)
Sagittarius ~ SilentTery (titan)
Shilien Templar ~ DenyaS
Doombringer ~ Zakfein

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Sorted into major clans/allies, please correct if I'm wrong on one

[Venaja]

Grats

[Jyrki]

A bit more One-Sided than I expected O.o

[Jacent]

[u]My favorites to watch this last month were(in no particular order)[u]:
LordKoron
Saerka
Eruan
ML vs. Kohek matches
Karigan
bOOtleg
Any Dwarf that signs "open"
Flintster
firmament

[u]Least favorite to watch[u]:
SciBlade - It's not exciting to watch a match when we all know what the outcome will be. :p
Any caster that sits in the corner - Seriously folks, move or we're all going to fall asleep. It doesn't work out often anyways so save us all the time and just fight.

[Nostrova]

Zakfein is tagged Memoria as far as I know, and no Denyas aint in NM any longer.

Regarding matches mm dunno really id much rather watch a fight with Sciblade then Bucaluca or whatever. Man what a drag to watch his matches in open ...

[Sunspark]

Is it me or does it seems like there are lot ex Gustin in that list? :)

[Venaja]

yeah, most of them :o

[Choco]

Well......NM, CC and CD are all fairly battle-hardened at this point. I was hoping for a bit more balance than that though.

Anyway, it's just the first round--let's give it a few months.

[MasterFlint]

GF all.

My internet dc/ed 5 minutes b/f heros were announced... Just reading them now...

[Teli]

GJ All~

When I see "Arena 22" I about switched from water to tequila...just saying...

That being said, lots of really awesome matches...some horrible ones (ie: all the ones I died in- yes smart [censored] was pretty much all)... and some awesome crying! Really ya'll know I'm not a trashtalker but, we reached some interesting lows this month and mixed in there was some rather funny smack as well.

I can honestly say though there was much to be learned this month. I saw several people getting rolled, and then bouncing back as they adjusted there game. Made for some entertaining oly :) thanks!

Just grats to all competitors for getting in there and hero's well you'll have all shinyness and " can you shout for me" to show for your hard work. Glory in wonderfulness that is hero zerk!!

*side note* Since I usually am reading off matches to people in vent- can I go halves with a few of you on a name change? Because...seriously... you kill me... Vowels people. Vowels.. I'm begging.

<3 Teli

[DrMabuse]

gf i guess

[Jacent]

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When I see "Arena 22" I about switched from water to tequila...just saying...

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LOL, the "For the love of God, please, just do it and don't question me" voice was center stage serveral times. I know you don't think it's entertaining, but you're hilarious when frazzled.

Spreadsheets+++

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[...]and some awesome crying! Really ya'll know I'm not a trashtalker but, we reached some interesting lows this month and mixed in there was some rather funny smack as well.

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Take a picture folks. Probably as close to being spiteful as you'll ever see Teli be. Sadly, the smack talk bordered on insanity at some points. People who were in the process of being humbled in front of the entire server were mouthing off like it was one of those nutso cable access shows that you can only stomach for 15-22 seconds.

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I saw several people getting rolled, and then bouncing back as they adjusted there game. Made for some entertaining oly :) thanks!

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I was way off base. I thought people would be feeling each other out over the first few days, but even last night there were distinct changes in strategy, some matches that ended up being a lot closer than I thought they would be, and big upsets.

Good stuff.

[MalaSuczka]

hey
gz guys !

[Durgoth]

Gustin is basically awesome.

[FinalJudgment]

idk havnt been too impressed with gustin in oly tbh a lot of those points were most likly traded too and i will say this gustin has a lot more nobles on at that time then hindy

[Jesslynn]

grats guys, it was fun :)

[Jyrki]

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idk havnt been too impressed with gustin in oly tbh a lot of those points were most likly traded too and i will say this gustin has a lot more nobles on at that time then hindy

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Well, let’s be realistic here. I was pretty impressed with the amount of Nobles, and the levels and gear Hinde had, but as time passes it became pretty apparent why. I'm not even going to touch base on the farmer issues the server had, but the state of botting, and the acceptance on the server is amazing. Needless to say, I'm not surprised at this point of the levels anymore.

Don't get me wrong, Gustin had it's issues... but nothing on this level, never...

[Demia]

No FS heroes is just LOL.

grats to those new heroes.

[Husje]

Gj to all.

Which were class based?

[Daik]

Sps, OL, SE, BD, SR, HE, TH ( half at least ) , Glad ( some of it ) , Sws ( part of it ) , some dwarf class, SH, DA,

Those are the ones that come to mind, maybe I am missing a few.

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idk havnt been too impressed with gustin in oly tbh a lot of those points were most likly traded

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Of course alot of the points were traded... Oly is MUCH more about teamwork and organization than individual skill. Trying to trigger safe rounds, knowing how many points ur enemy has, etc etc etc.. those are the things that at least imo show that u know how to play Olypiad.. Having a killer toon and knowing how to play it is always nice and needed, but that alone only takes u so far.. A person can be the best at his class and always beat the opponents of his own class, and still lose hero because the other ppl get stacked by his clan..

That said, Hinde has some amazing Killers... I was specially impressed by the power of their Necros.. they destroy tanks even when their UD is up O.o... That SH badacalucadas or something is also amazing.. and of course they have the damm summoners and titans that always rock. :)

I saw some amazing fights during the month :) hopefully next month we will see even more :)

Gratz all.

[Choco]

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idk havnt been too impressed with gustin in oly tbh a lot of those points were most likly traded too and i will say this gustin has a lot more nobles on at that time then hindy

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Well, let’s be realistic here. I was pretty impressed with the amount of Nobles, and the levels and gear Hinde had, but as time passes it became pretty apparent why. I'm not even going to touch base on the farmer issues the server had, but the state of botting, and the acceptance on the server is amazing. Needless to say, I'm not surprised at this point of the levels anymore.

Don't get me wrong, Gustin had it's issues... but nothing on this level, never...


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Well, let's face it Jigs. On Gustin, Syn made people look pretty silly in the Olympiad for a while. Even after folks had nobles and gear and skill enchants etc., it took a little while for people to get better at playing their class, specifically against others and other classes. It also took a while for Gustonians to learn how and when to throw points and all the Oly management required to have lots of heroes.

So, Gustin has a leg up on some of that, though clearly some folks from Hindemith get it. The downside of imbalance is that the amount of adena that any hero can earn is substantial, so if it stays imbalanced in heroes, it will begin to build imbalance in a more entrenched way.

So...as I said, we'll watch it for a couple months and see if I have to start a big political campaign against whomever is in power. At the moment, I'm not doing anything.

--The Management

[Daik]

Class bases were:
Sps, OL, SE, BD, SR, HE, TH ( half at least ) , Glad ( some of it ) , Sws ( part of it ) , some dwarf class, SH, DA,

Those are the ones that come to mind, maybe I am missing a few.


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idk havnt been too impressed with gustin in oly tbh a lot of those points were most likly traded


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Of course alot of the points were traded... Oly is MUCH more about teamwork and organization than individual skill. Trying to trigger safe rounds, knowing how many points ur enemy has, etc etc etc.. those are the things that at least imo show that u know how to play Olypiad.. Having a killer toon and knowing how to play it is always nice and needed, but that alone only takes u so far.. A person can be the best at his class and always beat the opponents of his own class, and still lose hero because the other ppl get stacked by his clan..

That said, Hinde has some amazing Killers... I was specially impressed by the power of their Necros.. they destroy tanks even when their UD is up O.o... That SH badacalucadas or something is also amazing.. and of course they have the damm summoners and titans that always rock.

I saw some amazing fights during the month hopefully next month we will see even more

Gratz all.

[XxWaroxX]

Wow gustin pwns ;x

[Choco]

Nice technique, Daik. The rebump of the post to counter the strong post (from me) that came after it.

You might make Forum Hero yet!!!

[Jyrki]

Oh Snap Son!

[mswari]

GUSTIN SAYS WELCOME TO THE PWN ZONE
MYSTIC LANCE IN OUR HEARTS FOREVER

[Kazzy]

ML failed us, by losing to Kohe. NO excuses valid!

[Jesslynn]

*cries* poor kohek :(

[Venaja]

hmm.. still noone came with the right answer on my quizz! Not even an attempt. I expect atleast that ML himself figures out the right answer.

[Daik]

What Quiz ???

And thanks Choc, means alot ;). Btw, I might add that the adena that Heros get and how much of an imbalance it generates depends alot on how the clas/ally manages such things, but I agree that the more you win, the easier it gets.

[Venaja]

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What Quiz ???

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The mentioned quiz is in a thread with "august" in it's title.
I want some good attempts on it before i give a hint. It is fairly easy for those who know some about ML and the otherwise clever.
This why i expect ML himself to figure it out. He has knowledge about himself and seems clever :>

[Venaja]

I see you maya!

[MayatheBee]

LOL... I ve readen lots of funny comments... Gustin folks except Saerka, ImaSweety at some point, Eurian (SP the light elf tank hero) did not impress. Basically it was the old Hinde fights at open at least the last week.

Lets see the the heroes one by one:CarpeDiem
Dominator ~ Smokescreen - I guess there was no competition, Cellestia is terrible by default
Storm Screamer ~ Vrag, althout Hitch and Baculuca were better Vrag got well traded
Eva's Saint ~ ImASweetie - very impressed by this guy but he had no real competition
Dreadnaught ~ MadamWhiplash ... no comment
Elemental Master ~ MysticLance, kohek was owning him all month long but Flint made ML hero
Ghost Sentinal ~ KoZiiI.... no comment

NightMare
Fortune Seeker ~ Midge.... no comment
Titan ~ Flinster - the olympiad
Soultaker ~ CPTJackSparrow - HuCaXep was better but ofcourse Flint saved his butbuddie
Cardinal ~ Kirith ... dont know anything about bp hero
Eva's Templar ~ Eruan - nice played and almost impressed, but NM and Flint gave him the hero. Kyzia was better overal.
Wind Rider ~ Mistform ... I suppose traded, flints job again
Ghost Hunter ~ Morter ... no clue, I suppose Flints job
Hell Knight ~ RaptorCore... well played but again traded
Hierophant ~ Geral ... Fathips is classes better than Geral and everyone saw it the matches betwen em. Fathips lost 1000 mp to overcome Geral witch made our old entire alliance to laugh at Geral.
Mystic Muse ~ Deathie... no clue
Doomcryer ~ Saerka - very good player, respect for this one
Maestro ~ Mimiko... no comment
Soul Hound ~ rmuffin... no comment
Arcana Lord ~ ArcaneKnight... no comment

ClearlyClueless
Spectral Dancer ~ Gezza, definetelly the best BD at Phoenix, respect for her too
Sword Muse ~ Nostrova... no clue
Shilien Saint ~ TyphoonAxe.. ppbly traded
Grand Khavarti ~ ChosenGuardian02 - impressed by this guy too

Ragnarok
Adventurer ~ Adre - traded in cb
Trickster ~ IIPEJlECTb - no competition

Divine
Spectral Master ~ Sciblade - no competition
Phoenix Knight ~ Karigan - played well but not a real competiton
Archmage ~ Evintine - LOL
Moonlight Sentinal ~ VeronicaX - traded

Misc
Duelist ~ Lisara (Core Ally) - the only
Sagittarius ~ SilentTery (titan) - nice job for terry
Shilien Templar ~ DenyaS - traded by flint
Doombringer ~ Zakfein - no competition


So yeah... Gustin impress with Flints job... and the oly organized by him... The only ppl u could see trading the last days were mainly Divine at open oly. There was no organization at NM oly almost. CarpeDiem took what they can take. We tryed the same, but failed.

P.S: my comment is based only on observing the last week of the oly.

[caralee]

WTB a real Fortune Seeker Hero next month

[ahaja]

Someone has a flint's complex. lol.

[Typhoon]

lol all about flint making everyone hero.. you obviously have no idea what NM and specifically Telikose do..

Im sure Flint did great but those heroes have been heroes before.. major diff I see is ML needed 400+ points to win which he could not feed to his grp.. so they couldnt get job done on their own..

Most active Oly with best fights I've ever seen.. Lots of close matches..

[MysticLance]

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ML failed us, by losing to Kohe. NO excuses valid!

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I did fail..... in our last epic match, I forgot to do Final Servitor =( But that is no excuse. I still got epically rolled in that last match, haha.......... Looking forward to our matches in the upcoming month though =)

[kandlestik]

I still havent seen an oly match.

[Aaramill]

Gratz to everyone. Sensualism was powering oly this month. sensualism.

[Kazzy]

I think Maya is upset. How is it that g4b used to say? Cry me a river QQ?

There were good fights. Not Nm's fault they are organized and know their [censored], and flint and bootleg and saerka being able to farm and feed points ofc helped a lot.

Maybe you should try to focus on your titans and DC's (and while you are at it, tell them to fight in robes is not the smartest move)

CD lost a great point farmer in Aldemir when he switched classes, and ML having competition and not allowing him to freely pass points also hurts on this side. But Im sure this month they will have a new strategy, plus they were getting used to the main class change event.

Sure some classes (SH) unless you camp CB all month long they will probably get the trades in they need, and the solo player will not get hero, specially if he goes in open not even trying to time his oponents.

But for example you said (TH) traded in CB. yet you fail to mention he did have competition there,and that he beat the oponents, fair and square. what did you want him to do then? go in open and risk his points? That would have been not too bright.

So what you are telling really is: Im not impressed by the quality of the fights gustin puts, but I am indeed amazed by the organization, since they made hero a lot of people that shouldnt have been.

Ofc in my eyes you are wrong, excepting a few cases I think gustin has an amazing set of olympiad players, and an awesome olympiad organization specially on Nm's side.



Lesson for you? Learn teamwork.

Edit: the forums need a fight!

[ackerman_SR]

Maya sorry to say that but i think you are ******ed...
When was the last time you had sex?
Have you got any Flint-complex?Do you like something "special" on him?
About Eruan,if you think about it again,and you stay at your "position" that Kuzya is better,then i think you should check your eyes and your brain.
Kuzya was just lucky and had matches with clan/ally/CD and some "easy targets",comparing to Eruan that had way more hard matches with serious targets.

LOL MAYA LOL

http://www.hovr.com/site/img/7220061110073619_small.gif

[Kazzy]

No need to call anyone stupid imo ackerman.

Maya and Flint probably have issues.

[ackerman_SR]

I think Maya is in love with Flint !!!!!!!!
That's why he is saying all these things about him !

Just a question to Maya and i am out..... :
"Who you think you are" ?

And about Kuzya,i didn't say that he is not good or anything.My opinion is just that Eruan is better than him.They both had good matches,but Kuzya was also a bit luckier.

[Daik]

Some Extra comments on Mayas overview :)

first. most classes need to be fed, thats why Oly is a team effort, if people try to do it alone most of the time they lose (a very good example is baculuca he/she did awesome, but cant compare to a SH that has 8 ppl feeding him ).

also.

Raptorcore = they did DA class based, and Bougi ( CD DA, which is very good, decided not to compete, he was online and doing open, raptor also fought some enemies in there, if his main one didnt want to try to face him nothing he can do )

Deathie = also CB, one or 2 enemie Sps tried to stop us but lost most of the matches, again, if the "enemy" just lets trasnfers go on and on, its not that the toon is a bad players its just that the opposition lacks organization ( I will come back to this )

Cpt = I saw him face Huxa a win.. I didnt see ALL the matches so maybe huxa beat him too, but they seemed to be pretty even. The one that had support from his clan and ally ended up taking the Hero, no surprice there.

Geral = he isnt the best prophet I have seen, but I saw 4-5 matches of Fat and she/he has a lot to learn about Oly fighting.. she fights nukers and doesnt give them BTM to make her drains better ( which made her lose to a Sps once ) she buffed an enemy by mistake once among other things, she isnt a bad player, but I think atm Geral is better.

Typhoonaxe, again CB, only 1 person tried to stop us, and he wasnt even that high on points.. he is a pretty good SE tho.

Gezza = I agree 100% :P she rocks.

ok, Back to the Organization comment, the NO organization by Nm, I believe apart from HE, which they gave up on, no CB happened that they didnt know of , and tried to stop if possible, they worked up to the last day of the month, they knew who they had to feed and how much each person needed, they knew when to put their killers in and managed to trigger alot of "safe" rounds, all that shows a very clear and very effective organization, results of which can be seen by the fact they got as many heros as they did.

[ahaja]

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Maya and Flint probably have issues.

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And teh problem will solve tissues!

yo.

[Daik]

on a side note, I agree with Kazzy, no need to trash talk so much Acker... Maya has her views and u have urs and FLint has his... Kuzya DID have some hard matches and she won alot of them.. I think both TK are pretty good.

[Kazzy]

No hinde forum warriors?

[MasterFlint]

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No hinde forum warriors?

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Seems to me they got pk'ed by the gustin ones :)

Maya is my biggest fanboi. His sister's ex-boyfriend's former college roomate's friend's dog got run over and it was my fault somehow :)

[Choco]

Hmmm.

I was surprised that Kazzygirl didn't come in with the:

EVERY ONE OF THE BEST OLY PEEPS FROM GUSTIN WENT TO TEON SO YOU ALL SUCK, AND SHOULDN'T BE CONGRATULATING YOURSELVES FOR ANYTHING.

Thus, ******* off the former Gustonians who won, and the Hinde's who didn't IN ONE FELL SWOOP!

Apparently, she's not thinking clearly today.

[MysticLance]

Daikyboo, FatHips does give enemy nukers BTS :P He just uses Improve Condition instead of BTS :O Or at least, he did in the fights I saw! :O

[Kazzy]

:( Choco made me cry

[MysticLance]

Choco makes everyone cry. That's why he gets to choose the forum hero! :)

[kenta]

*side note* Since I usually am reading off matches to people in vent- can I go halves with a few of you on a name change? Because...seriously... you kill me... Vowels people. Vowels.. I'm begging.

<3 Teli
vowels are for weaklings!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Andothe]

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No hinde forum warriors?

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Very few of us left, most of the "cool" kids either moved servers or got banned for sailing. [censored] isn't as sensored, so the typical caveman mentality of our pvp based players post there. Maybe if the "gustonians" can fix what the gm's don't care to, then a few of us would filter back to phoenix.

Nice oly matches last night.

BAN THE BOTS !!!!

[MayatheBee]

Again incompetent comments and mainly from NM side. Hai2u. Our ally had 29 heros of 31 possible just before 6 months. We were fighting agiainst Fathips and Kadoo the best oly farmers and Titans were not the best back then but PPs and WCs. So do not talk me about organization. Hugo personally told me that Flint is there to do oly for them.

I would like to ask... how many of the NM guys will sign if they know Flint is against them. 0 is the answere. So putting your organization and teamwork beside Flint is just lol. You won what? 3 Heroes on class based oly... a prove u are not that organized. When we had 29 heroes we won 18 on class based oly. This is called organization.

Let me repeat it again. Capt wont sign if Flint is against him. Geral wont sign if Flint is against him. The comment I read about Fathips is really really from a person that gets 0 clue about the oly and especially the PP fights. Saerka will have like 50 pts max if Flint plays against him. Your tanks wont sign if Flint is in. The talk that ur light elf tank is better than our is again redicilous. I ll tell u why - Kuzya was camping when Flint is in to do his rounds. That made him not to sign in numerous rounds. That made him lose a lot of pts. Now put Flint against Eurian and see how funny it will be. I bet we wont see him even signed. So uhm yeah I havent sleep 48 hours and I forgot what I wanted to say :)

[MayatheBee]

Ah about our titans and wcs - we are mainly EU clans and most of the Titans we got cant even think about oly. The one we had that was active, Lessnick, is a military officer and cant participate at all right now. Our only noble WC is a gurl that plays for fun but not the oly (she was once a hero). So we dont really relly much on them when we do oly.

If I get smth fresh in my head I ll post it in the morning. Bai till then.

[Oranj2]

hinde forum warrior reporting for duty

[Kazzy]

How many Nm guys would sign if they knew flint was against them? Of the top of my head: Saerka, LD, Raptorcore, Eruan, Geral, Asuran.

Then seeing flint inside, they would use their god given brains and trigger a second round for clases flint can easily kill.

Oh I forgot, Flint can be in all the rounds at the same time. He is totally hacks. We should report him for also having his skills available the whole time!


You really should be asking how many Gustin ppl, cause I can mention a few CD aswell. They are good in olympiad, they just didn't focus much on it this month, adjusting to having ML not be able to give free feeds.

Kadoo is the dude that fought in robes, so dont get me started on him. And Fathips is ok, nothing great, makes mistakes here and there. Geral has a ways to go still, but then he has been playing that toon what? 4 months? And its not his main class. I hope fathips isn't a main either.

When you had 29 heroes you won 18 in class based oly, organization where? for CB? Try doing the same [censored] if you cant trigger CB oly, where it is safer than open for a lot of classes.

And I dont care how many heroes you had 6 months ago. Welcome to the new situation.

Look Maya, I am not saying you guys suck, i actually think you are a good player in oly, but maybe this month you guys weren't ready for the situation that presented itself, and probably in the comming month you will make adjustments to compensate.

[Kazzy]

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Ah about our titans and wcs - we are mainly EU clans and most of the Titans we got cant even think about oly. The one we had that was active, Lessnick, is a military officer and cant participate at all right now. Our only noble WC is a gurl that plays for fun but not the oly (she was once a hero). So we dont really relly much on them when we do oly.

If I get smth fresh in my head I ll post it in the morning. Bai till then.

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well, such is life, NM and CD also have euro players who like to stay awake and spend time in olympiad (cause they like it/cause they can/etc).

Good for you for not relying on them in olympiad if they aren't going to be there, since it would make it super hard for if you did depend on them and they dont come.

And it seems you are upset these clans have actual players that wish to dedicate time to playing olympiad and are good at it? as I said before, adjust to it. Im sure if you sit down and consider it for a few minutes a solution will come to that pretty little head of yours.

[Maradona]

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Spectral Dancer ~ Gezza, definetelly the best BD at Phoenix, respect for her too

Trickster ~ IIPEJlECTb - no competition

Spectral Master ~ Sciblade - no competition

Moonlight Sentinal ~ VeronicaX - traded

Doombringer ~ Zakfein - no competition

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1) Some other Ex-Gustin BD's are beter..all the time in oly boxed tbh..

2) I can see some competition (check the monument)

3) watch at point 2

4) He played free olympiad aswell and won against lot of enemies of him (check monument)

5) same as point 2 and 3

[Daik]

How does CB require more organization than open ?? really maya make some better points.

[MayatheBee]

I didnt understand what u said, but the names u put at the first paragraph would not be with more than 50-70 pts if Flint plays against em. First cause they need to w8 rounds where Flint is not in and then that they will get Flint and get drained badly. Still remember me losing ~50 points per round to Flint and KoHeK saying : "$pzdc -45 pts to Flint".

Lets think about anthing else. You got your allaince now in a point of w8ing for 2nd and 3rd rounds where Flint is not signed. Now u lose ur killers and point farmers. Now they will have to sign less which is really bad. If that happens u need tons of noblesses to compensate this losage. Did u think about it? No... Then what else happens - u get with the other ally's olympiad killers who also w8 flint to sign. There u lose more points. Now u need even more noblesses to compensate the losage. Have u tought about it... no

Kadoo quit long time ago. Now someone else owns his account.

Fathips was beating Nya for hero for almost an year long. Now Nya is the best PP on Teon. The oly betwen Teon and Pheonix cant even be compared cause Teon are years infront of us. Again a bad comment here.

Class based oly is way harder to trade than open... learn to do oly pls. If it was so I would do necro oly long time ago.

6 Months ago Hindemith was with a lot more population than Phoenix is now. We actually had sieges with way bigger numbers. The oly was overcrowded too. Wellcome to the situation where Gustin havent been, but Hinde passed by long time ago.

There are finally some right words in your last paragraph. Yes we were not prepared much well, but we didnt put a lot effort in the oly at all. Actually we were aiming for adv,3 tank heroes and sps + SH hero + pony hero (usefull heroes only politic). Unfortunatelly Flint traded to ML his enemie and beat kohek with whom according to lots of ppl he is supposed to work. Then our SH went on vacantion. The tank points were very close. But Flint gave the hero to Denyas, to Eurian and mb we did some misscalculation for the DA hero. Sps hero was lost cause of clan, ally drama.

[Choco]

[censored], kazzy. I didn't mean to goad you into telling the truth.

[MayatheBee]

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How does CB require more organization than open ?? really maya make some better points.

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I know Gustin was low populated server so I ll explain. For class based oly where u feed someone with pts and he cant be passed in open from an enemie later u need like 6-8 noblesses from 1 class. All of this effort can be ruined only by 1 enemie if he/she signs. For open oly u need 8-10 noblesses that are not needed to be from 1 class. Your effort can be succesfully ruined only if u have about the same ammount of noblesses trying to do it or at least 5 playing against u. I am bad at mat but 1/6 - 1/8 < 5/8 -5/10 isnt it?

Did I mention the difference of 1/3 points and 1/5 points?

Putting an example of Hindemiths history. Moon and Targic were our best SRs back in days (now they are/were and the best in Bartz too). They were playing against 10 SR at class based oly. Our enemies SRs were forced to try a trade almost every day cause of only 2 ppl. Not that Moon and Targic were putting much effort but when they put enough they always got the hero spot.

[Kazzy]

for the record Maya, since you do not know this, I am not in NM or in CD.

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I didnt understand what u said, but the names u put at the first paragraph would not be with more than 50-70 pts if Flint plays against em. First cause they need to w8 rounds where Flint is not in and then that they will get Flint and get drained badly. Still remember me losing ~50 points per round to Flint and KoHeK saying : "$pzdc -45 pts to Flint".


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If that is what you think, sure. You also, when you beat him, take 45 points. Example, ML beating flint and getting hero cause of this.

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Lets think about anthing else. You got your allaince now in a point of w8ing for 2nd and 3rd rounds where Flint is not signed. Now u lose ur killers and point farmers. Now they will have to sign less which is really bad. If that happens u need tons of noblesses to compensate this losage. Did u think about it? No... Then what else happens - u get with the other ally's olympiad killers who also w8 flint to sign. There u lose more points. Now u need even more noblesses to compensate the losage. Have u tought about it... no

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In this server the killer is flint (for you it seems) In gustin is was ML for Nm and Saerka for CD. Both clans learned to deal with this situation.

below this paragraph(at the end) you said u guys had shittons of nobles, so making the rounds w/o flint in, should be even easier, given then random people participating :)

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Kadoo quit long time ago. Now someone else owns his account.

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Good, cause if he was your best challenge.... no words.

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Fathips was beating Nya for hero for almost an year long. Now Nya is the best PP on Teon. The oly betwen Teon and Pheonix cant even be compared cause Teon are years infront of us. Again a bad comment here.

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Well, then this fathips certainly didnt wish for us to see her magnificence this olympiad, and tried her best to fool us all with barely standard performances.

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Class based oly is way harder to trade than open... learn to do oly pls. If it was so I would do necro oly long time ago.

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umm? In Cb you need only 5 nobles. You pass points faster since you pass 1/3 points per match. You only face oponents of your same class.

In open, you need 9 ppl to trigger. You also only pass 1/5 of the points. You will face different classes in here.

Do I need to spell it out for you or this was enough?

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6 Months ago Hindemith was with a lot more population than Phoenix is now. We actually had sieges with way bigger numbers. The oly was overcrowded too. Wellcome to the situation where Gustin havent been, but Hinde passed by long time ago.

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seems to have passed right by you the situation, cause it you didnt learn [censored].

I took off your last paragraph cause I dont care about your excuses for your performance of olympiad. if they satisfy you, good for you.

[Kazzy]

reading what you said above, it seems your problems with Class based is low quality players that cant beat the enemy.

edit: and how can not 1 or 2 players ruin your open oly? Same thing, only now, you have, oh lets say an SE facing a Titan/SpS/Archer/Dagger. Yah, the SE's got this. On the other hand, you have and SE facing an SE. Increases the chances of winning dont you think?

[Mekadus]

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for the record Maya, since you do not know this, I am not in NM or in CD.

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I didnt understand what u said, but the names u put at the first paragraph would not be with more than 50-70 pts if Flint plays against em. First cause they need to w8 rounds where Flint is not in and then that they will get Flint and get drained badly. Still remember me losing ~50 points per round to Flint and KoHeK saying : "$pzdc -45 pts to Flint".


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If that is what you think, sure. You also, when you beat him, take 45 points. Example, ML beating flint and getting hero cause of this.


Yea cuz he just can't win flint =/

[Jyrki]

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LOL... I ve readen lots of funny comments... Gustin folks except Saerka, ImaSweety at some point, Eurian (SP the light elf tank hero) did not impress. Basically it was the old Hinde fights at open at least the last week.

Lets see the the heroes one by one:CarpeDiem
Dominator ~ Smokescreen - I guess there was no competition, Cellestia is terrible by default
Storm Screamer ~ Vrag, althout Hitch and Baculuca were better Vrag got well traded
Eva's Saint ~ ImASweetie - very impressed by this guy but he had no real competition
Dreadnaught ~ MadamWhiplash ... no comment
Elemental Master ~ MysticLance, kohek was owning him all month long but Flint made ML hero
Ghost Sentinal ~ KoZiiI.... no comment

NightMare
Fortune Seeker ~ Midge.... no comment
Titan ~ Flinster - the olympiad
Soultaker ~ CPTJackSparrow - HuCaXep was better but ofcourse Flint saved his butbuddie
Cardinal ~ Kirith ... dont know anything about bp hero
Eva's Templar ~ Eruan - nice played and almost impressed, but NM and Flint gave him the hero. Kyzia was better overal.
Wind Rider ~ Mistform ... I suppose traded, flints job again
Ghost Hunter ~ Morter ... no clue, I suppose Flints job
Hell Knight ~ RaptorCore... well played but again traded
Hierophant ~ Geral ... Fathips is classes better than Geral and everyone saw it the matches betwen em. Fathips lost 1000 mp to overcome Geral witch made our old entire alliance to laugh at Geral.
Mystic Muse ~ Deathie... no clue
Doomcryer ~ Saerka - very good player, respect for this one
Maestro ~ Mimiko... no comment
Soul Hound ~ rmuffin... no comment
Arcana Lord ~ ArcaneKnight... no comment

ClearlyClueless
Spectral Dancer ~ Gezza, definetelly the best BD at Phoenix, respect for her too
Sword Muse ~ Nostrova... no clue
Shilien Saint ~ TyphoonAxe.. ppbly traded
Grand Khavarti ~ ChosenGuardian02 - impressed by this guy too

Ragnarok
Adventurer ~ Adre - traded in cb
Trickster ~ IIPEJlECTb - no competition

Divine
Spectral Master ~ Sciblade - no competition
Phoenix Knight ~ Karigan - played well but not a real competiton
Archmage ~ Evintine - LOL
Moonlight Sentinal ~ VeronicaX - traded

Misc
Duelist ~ Lisara (Core Ally) - the only
Sagittarius ~ SilentTery (titan) - nice job for terry
Shilien Templar ~ DenyaS - traded by flint
Doombringer ~ Zakfein - no competition


So yeah... Gustin impress with Flints job... and the oly organized by him... The only ppl u could see trading the last days were mainly Divine at open oly. There was no organization at NM oly almost. CarpeDiem took what they can take. We tryed the same, but failed.

P.S: my comment is based only on observing the last week of the oly.

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Fathips the best PP? LOL... that part alone shows me how little you even watched oly. Fathips is just an overated player, with a plethora of weapons and augments who has no clue how to even use them properly, and makes excuses everytime he loses. He is quite essentially one of the worst PP's I have ever seen in oly. Makes me wish Lyrene would start signing again, lol!

[Jyrki]

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Again incompetent comments and mainly from NM side. Hai2u. Our ally had 29 heros of 31 possible just before 6 months. We were fighting agiainst Fathips and Kadoo the best oly farmers and Titans were not the best back then but PPs and WCs. So do not talk me about organization. Hugo personally told me that Flint is there to do oly for them.

I would like to ask... how many of the NM guys will sign if they know Flint is against them. 0 is the answere. So putting your organization and teamwork beside Flint is just lol. You won what? 3 Heroes on class based oly... a prove u are not that organized. When we had 29 heroes we won 18 on class based oly. This is called organization.

Let me repeat it again. Capt wont sign if Flint is against him. Geral wont sign if Flint is against him. The comment I read about Fathips is really really from a person that gets 0 clue about the oly and especially the PP fights. Saerka will have like 50 pts max if Flint plays against him. Your tanks wont sign if Flint is in. The talk that ur light elf tank is better than our is again redicilous. I ll tell u why - Kuzya was camping when Flint is in to do his rounds. That made him not to sign in numerous rounds. That made him lose a lot of pts. Now put Flint against Eurian and see how funny it will be. I bet we wont see him even signed. So uhm yeah I havent sleep 48 hours and I forgot what I wanted to say :)

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The first line of your post say's it all. Having 29/31 hero's dosen't make you good, means your competion sucked pretty bad. Didn't even bother reading the rest, lol.

[Kazzy]

Go get your own argument Jyrki, this is mine!!

[MysticLance]

When did Flintster trade points to me? I'm confused. (>Q.Q)>

[Daik]

Maya dude.. really.. I mean u first post this

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Lets think about anthing else. You got your allaince now in a point of w8ing for 2nd and 3rd rounds where Flint is not signed. Now u lose ur killers and point farmers. Now they will have to sign less which is really bad. If that happens u need tons of noblesses to compensate this losage. Did u think about it? No... Then what else happens - u get with the other ally's olympiad killers who also w8 flint to sign. There u lose more points. Now u need even more noblesses to compensate the losage

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In which u explain how 1 person ruins ur entire trasfer of points and how hard it is ( seems very hard to organize a safe round in Open Oly, and u only took into account Flint as a killer, in ur heavily populated server, there MUST be more than 1 killer) making it all but imposible to do safe transfer, since u would need a HUGE ammount of Nobles all ORGANIZED to be able to do Safe rounds.

And THEN u post

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I know Gustin was low populated server so I ll explain. For class based oly where u feed someone with pts and he cant be passed in open from an enemie later u need like 6-8 noblesses from 1 class. All of this effort can be ruined only by 1 enemie if he/she signs. For open oly u need 8-10 noblesses that are not needed to be from 1 class. Your effort can be succesfully ruined only if u have about the same ammount of noblesses trying to do it or at least 5 playing against u. I am bad at mat but 1/6 - 1/8 < 5/8 -5/10 isnt it?

Did I mention the difference of 1/3 points and 1/5 points?



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Which I guess is ur explanation as to why CB is harder, but honestly all u say just goes to show how little organization u had when doing CB.. let me explain to u how it goes.

Class Based - You need 5 ppl to trigger, 6 to do a safe round if a person is camping, meaning u only need to coordinate with 5 persons, and tell them when to sign.

Open - you need 9 ppl to trigger, 10 if someone is camping to do a "safe" round. which leadss to the second point.

Open - MANY killers can be signed to compete, its hard to keep track of them all, and therefore hard to avoid them.

CB - you know the names of the main opponents u are facing and can check if they are online, much easier to avoid them, and therefore pass points safely.

Open - you only get 1/5 of the points, meaning u need to put in your "soft" feeders in much more to get them to a decent amount of points.

CB - you get 1/3 of the points meaning u get to a high point count much faster.

Open - the people you are feeding have a chance of meeting killers from classes they cant defeat no matter what they do.

CB - worse case your feeder has to fight his own class. Sometimes its not an even fight, but the person has more chance than againts an Open oly Killer.


For all the above mentioned points, Organizing Open and getting many heros with that is MUCH harder than doing it on Class Based.

[Kazzy]

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When did Flintster trade points to me? I'm confused. (>Q.Q)>

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Don't know, but count your lucky stars!

Edit: You remember when hugo said he was God? Well, God has just met his master!
(-1 for me for bad joke)

[MysticLance]

Hugo said he was god?

[MayatheBee]

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Maya dude.. really.. I mean u first post this

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Lets think about anthing else. You got your allaince now in a point of w8ing for 2nd and 3rd rounds where Flint is not signed. Now u lose ur killers and point farmers. Now they will have to sign less which is really bad. If that happens u need tons of noblesses to compensate this losage. Did u think about it? No... Then what else happens - u get with the other ally's olympiad killers who also w8 flint to sign. There u lose more points. Now u need even more noblesses to compensate the losage

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In which u explain how 1 person ruins ur entire trasfer of points and how hard it is ( seems very hard to organize a safe round in Open Oly, and u only took into account Flint as a killer, in ur heavily populated server, there MUST be more than 1 killer) making it all but imposible to do safe transfer, since u would need a HUGE ammount of Nobles all ORGANIZED to be able to do Safe rounds.

And THEN u post

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I know Gustin was low populated server so I ll explain. For class based oly where u feed someone with pts and he cant be passed in open from an enemie later u need like 6-8 noblesses from 1 class. All of this effort can be ruined only by 1 enemie if he/she signs. For open oly u need 8-10 noblesses that are not needed to be from 1 class. Your effort can be succesfully ruined only if u have about the same ammount of noblesses trying to do it or at least 5 playing against u. I am bad at mat but 1/6 - 1/8 < 5/8 -5/10 isnt it?

Did I mention the difference of 1/3 points and 1/5 points?



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Which I guess is ur explanation as to why CB is harder, but honestly all u say just goes to show how little organization u had when doing CB.. let me explain to u how it goes.

Class Based - You need 5 ppl to trigger, 6 to do a safe round if a person is camping, meaning u only need to coordinate with 5 persons, and tell them when to sign.

Open - you need 9 ppl to trigger, 10 if someone is camping to do a "safe" round. which leadss to the second point.

Open - MANY killers can be signed to compete, its hard to keep track of them all, and therefore hard to avoid them.

CB - you know the names of the main opponents u are facing and can check if they are online, much easier to avoid them, and therefore pass points safely.

Open - you only get 1/5 of the points, meaning u need to put in your "soft" feeders in much more to get them to a decent amount of points.

CB - you get 1/3 of the points meaning u get to a high point count much faster.

Open - the people you are feeding have a chance of meeting killers from classes they cant defeat no matter what they do.

CB - worse case your feeder has to fight his own class. Sometimes its not an even fight, but the person has more chance than againts an Open oly Killer.


For all the above mentioned points, Organizing Open and getting many heros with that is MUCH harder than doing it on Class Based.

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6 nobles is maximum amount of what 150 pts? u must be joking u can get hero with that right?

I was explaining at 2nd post how is the oly overal, not how is the trading. The trading is easy if u want to do it in open. Ig u read again I say u need 1 strong killer and some other strong killers to face u in order to stop u. Having points in open is a bit hard when u lack on really strong killers.

ML how many times did Flint mess up with skills when played against u? This is not the first time Flint "messes up" with skills.

[Jacent]

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This is not the first time Flint "messes up" with skills.

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Probably just poor organization.

[Jacent]

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Hugo said he was god?

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Wait...God? I thought Hugo was the boogeyman?

[ackerman_SR]

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Class based oly is way harder to trade than open... learn to do oly pls. If it was so I would do necro oly long time ago.


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You are totally ******ed . Go to the beach and have some sex.Maybe this way you will manage to think better generally.
I don't understand why they keep you at your clan when you are so [censored] idiot!

I think that you like Flint a lot and you wanna have some "personal moments" with him,that's why you admin/think/say that he is in the center of the world....

But really now....maybe you should stop playing for some period and maybe Alyra should ban you again,so we are fine again without reading all these [censored]...

Have fun.

LOL MAYATHEBEE LOL !

[Jyrki]

LoL at Maya thinking CB is harder to trade points than in open Oly, and whats even more amusing is the fact that you tell us we should learn how to do Oly? What was the Hero count again? ...

[Sunspark]

I see Maya didn't change :p

[N3B]

and then she says, "that is my foot!"

[Daik]

Yes, you can get hero with 150 points if the person going for hero againts u, decides that going in open is a better idea than doing CB and has bad luck and gets an enemy killer. To get 150 in CB is much safer and much faster.

Let me make an example maybe that will make u understand..

you want to stack a SE... a almost useless class in Open. You start putting him in when he has 24 points because u dont want to wait till the end, so

1st match -> 5 points ( he gets his max ) -------- 29pts
2nd match ->6pts ( again his max ) --------------35pts
3rd match ->7pts ( once again his max! ) ----------------42pts
4th match -> 9pts ( he is very lucky ) --------------------51pts
5th match -> 11pts (no enemies yet ! )-------------------62pts
6thmatch -> 13pts ( wow a stacked person again!)------75pts
7thmatch -> 15pts (kinda unreal isnt it ? )----------------90pts
8thmatch -> 5 pts ( awww, but still no enemy! ) ---------95pts
9thmatch ->19pts ( he got Flint ! ) -----------------------110pt

9 matches done, not even AT 150 points, and I think we can all agree that no enemies EVER in open and Max feeds on all his rounds are unreal, so now u have to risk sending him in again and again, with killers all over, because by now they realized what u are doing and are holding back some killers to put in your feeding wave.

10thmatch -> -15pts ! (damm he got a semi-stacked killer! )

we have to put him in again, not close to the "low" 150pts of CB,

11th match -> -5pts (not too bad, but now he is lower.)
12th match -> 10pts ( ok, we got some back, but still not close to the 150 pts ! )


You understand the problem with Open ? as opposed to CB ?? or do I have to do the CB example too so u can see how much easier it is...

[MayatheBee]

You can do clear rounds in open even if u have organized ppl fighting against u. It is almost impossible to do clear rounds in class based unless u got 10 noblesses.

I see why u dont understand what I am talking about. Dont worry soon Flint will scam ur ally too and will leave u once he has his books. You will understand then what I am talking about.

I am going back to my point. It wasnt nm's organization or any of the gustins folks that made NM have so much hero. It was Flint. Ask your hero and best oly farmer MysticLance how easy is to make heroes when u have Flint against u. Mb he will give a better answere than me.

At the RL flame post against me. I do sex very often especially since I am working at the tourism. You know beatifull tourists, beaches, clubs and discoteques it is not that hard to have sex when like 50 % of the young tourists are going to different destinations with that reason. A short statistic - 80 % of the Great Britan young ladies that travel with a tourism purpose without their boyfriend or husband/fionce do sex with someone else when they are on their vacantion. The numbers are about the same for the young ladies from Russia and ex USSR countries. These tourists and Romanians are 90 % of the the total number of the tourist that are comming to Bulgaria this year.
Next time try to do ingame flames instead of offending my real life. I d like to ask Alyra to take some actions about the real life flames as she promised in one PM.

[Daik]

sigh.. its almost pointless to talk to you..

First u tell me
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You can do clear rounds in open even if u have organized ppl fighting against u.

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then u tell me in the same post

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I see why u dont understand what I am talking about. Dont worry soon Flint will scam ur ally too and will leave u once he has his books. You will understand then what I am talking about

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If its easy to do clear rounds even if u have organized ppl fighting againts u, WHY would flint being on our side or againts us matter ??

You cant have it both ways.. Either Flint can destroy Open Oly by himself, making it Harder than doing Class Based, OR its easy to do Clear rounds in Open, no matter who is in, and Flint didnt do all you said he did.

Your call, I am done talking to someone that doesnt even know where he stands.

On a side note, I agree with the RL insults being dumb and out of line. No reason for them.

[Kazzy]

She would have to ban the whole gustin community, plus, it was not a REAL life flame. It is very common among gamers to use the "are you a virgin" or "you need to get laid", to insult the oponent.

If you took it for real, you DO need to learn to relax :).

But you touched a new point for me, tell us the story of flint scamming for those who dont know it.

[Husje]

NM, being my enemies, do know how to organize Olympiad like it or not. Thats why they will continue to get good amounts of heroes. Having Flint is just an extra for them but not a prerequest.

Flint is a strong class for sure but he isn't olympiad god as you are making him to be. Surely his class can beat most classes but even he isn't invisible. Titans for one can't keep going in after important matches and have to wait a couple of min before the skills that make them strong are up.
Flint for two is just flint, he cant control all arena's.

THIS is where organization will come into play, to know when to sign and who to sign. Feel sorry that you still don't grasp this concept yet...

[Kazzy]

Alde, you are my olympiad God now!

ML lost that place when he lost.

[MayatheBee]

You cant trade out points if Flint takes em from your olympiad farmers... Is it hard to get the msg? You cant feed someone with 200 pts if u dont have them. You can trade freely ofcourse but this doesnt mean u ll make the ppl u trade heroes.

Make difference betwen trade, organization, heroes. We did good trade rounds even without anyone to realise we did. E.g Kuzya u said he had luck but we actually did some rounds for him. Same for our SwS.

It is not pointless to talk with me, u are just clueless about the topic olympiad as it is obvious from your posts. I am w8ing for fathips to take action in this topic since olympiad is his favourit topic to talk too. He will make u look funny.

[YsEternal]

Not as funny as him getting leveled afk at bottom FoG by Fatterhips and his bots though... :lol:

[Jyrki]

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You can do clear rounds in open even if u have organized ppl fighting against u. It is almost impossible to do clear rounds in class based unless u got 10 noblesses.

I see why u dont understand what I am talking about. Dont worry soon Flint will scam ur ally too and will leave u once he has his books. You will understand then what I am talking about.

I am going back to my point. It wasnt nm's organization or any of the gustins folks that made NM have so much hero. It was Flint. Ask your hero and best oly farmer MysticLance how easy is to make heroes when u have Flint against u. Mb he will give a better answere than me.

At the RL flame post against me. I do sex very often especially since I am working at the tourism. You know beatifull tourists, beaches, clubs and discoteques it is not that hard to have sex when like 50 % of the young tourists are going to different destinations with that reason. A short statistic - 80 % of the Great Britan young ladies that travel with a tourism purpose without their boyfriend or husband/fionce do sex with someone else when they are on their vacantion. The numbers are about the same for the young ladies from Russia and ex USSR countries. These tourists and Romanians are 90 % of the the total number of the tourist that are comming to Bulgaria this year.
Next time try to do ingame flames instead of offending my real life. I d like to ask Alyra to take some actions about the real life flames as she promised in one PM.

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Your first linevis a lie, remember Flinster stacked our whole ally so it's impossible to do safe rounds, cause he's in every round! Aside from that, since you have proven time and time again how butthurt and clueless you are, I figured the rest of your post isn't worth reading. Just a bunch of endless assumptions, accusations and crying.

[Galaxy]

flint cant do two rounds anymore? what happened to warlock(or sk, or bishop, or se)? O.o



and im gonna wait for history to repeat itself.

[Dafool]

great olym this month, looking forward to several more ++ .

as far s the HK hero i would definatly like to point out that
1. rap did beat you maya before he started getting points in CB, you actually gave him a nice chunk of points for it
2. when doing class based bougiousx was doing open and decided not to sign, not our fault if he dosn't want to fight for hero.

other than that good fight, i did find it odd that CD decided to war a neutral clan just because they helped us to oly. would rather start a war with neutrals than to sign and fight/ruin a CB match?

[Aaramill]

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WTB a real Fortune Seeker Hero next month

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I smell a D-bag! Best Fortune Seeker is our hero

[MayatheBee]

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flint cant do two rounds anymore? what happened to warlock(or sk, or bishop, or se)? O.o


and im gonna wait for history to repeat itself.

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they dont know, G, leave em fail on their own... trow me a pm sometimes when u are on.

[MysticLance]

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other than that good fight, i did find it odd that CD decided to war a neutral clan just because they helped us to oly. would rather start a war with neutrals than to sign and fight/ruin a CB match?

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I've already addressed this once, and I guess I will address it again: Prior to the creation of Phoenix, we already had a one-way war with Imperium2. Seeing TRZNight log to Nightmare Hell Knights only reminded us that that needed to be put back up. And aside from that, class-based tank matches in which 5 people are coordinating against 1.... what are you going to do if you only have 1 set of UDs to use against 5 sets of UD? :P

[MysticLance]

Just to clarify: Not making any excuses for BougiouX, just pointing out that 1 set of UDs is less than 5 sets of UD. In addition, he continued to go in open because he has a fair chance against the likes of Nightmare power classes (i.e. Saerka, Flintster).

[Jesslynn]

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Having Flint is just an extra for them but not a prerequest.

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You mean prerequisite right?

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Surely his class can beat most classes but even he isn't invisible.

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You mean invincible right? Unless flint has silent move now and I don't know?
:p

[MysticLance]

Aldemir has troubles with big English words. True story.

[MasterFlint]

Maya must be referring to my level 80 skill:

Symbol of Flintster: Creates a bubble over the olympiad allowing Flintster to sign in multiple rounds with instant skill reuse.

[MysticLance]

Did you know that if you rearrange the letters in Flintster, you get Frintstel? If you make the "l" silent, it'd be like how an Asian who can't speak English would say Flintster! And it'd be like... Frint! So maybe... you're like Frint...ezza? Raid boss status?

But that doesn't explain why you get a bubble. You'd get songs, like, "Rondo of Flintster" and "Arcane Mazurka" and "Frenetic Flintcotta" o.o

[Jesslynn]

wow lol
i always wondered where you got your name though flint, do you flintknap for a hobby? :)

[MayatheBee]

@ Flint
oh lol... k dont sign at all next month and see if NM pass 8 heroes. We can even bid on it. I am bidding my AM that is arround 2.5-3.5 bil. taking the risk to bid 2 bil?

I d like too see NM having not a real killer against ML and KoHeK. less than 8 heroes for NM if Flint doesnt sign for a whole month. Any challangers?

[Kazzy]

sadly I can't control Flint, but I soooo want this challenge!!

ML and Kohek take care of themselves if you havent realized this by now. They block each other. =)

[Jacent]

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@ Flint
oh lol... k dont sign at all next month and see if NM pass 8 heroes.

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Why stop there? Why not demand that Saerka, Geral, Rap, LD, Eruan, bOOtleg, Natael, Chosen, and CPT stop signing also? Oh, oh NM can only sign Dwarves for the next two months! See, I can make rules too! Yay me!

[ QUOTE ]
I d like too see NM having not a real killer against ML and KoHeK.

[/ QUOTE ]

Geral and Saerka both can and have beaten ML. You...you do know that they were all on Gustin and fought regularly, right? NM got tons of Heroes on Gustin and after the merge nothing changed. Suck it the [censored] up instead of going all G4 on everyone(read: making up new rules because you can't win). You're making a German spectacle of yourself.

[Shinnai]

All I read is Flint Flint Flint... you do realize that we had Ttans too on Gustin and ppl were still doing Oly?

[Jyrki]

Apparently Flinster is the only Titan on Phoenix, and in NM. If I'm not mistaken, dosen't Maya's clan have big ugly Orc's too?

[EbilBaBy]

so many Flinster in this thread

[Kazzy]

Makes you miss us Ebil?

[_HuGo_]

[ QUOTE ]
Did you know that if you rearrange the letters in Flintster, you get Frintstel? If you make the "l" silent, it'd be like how an Asian who can't speak English would say Flintster! And it'd be like... Frint! So maybe... you're like Frint...ezza? Raid boss status?

But that doesn't explain why you get a bubble. You'd get songs, like, "Rondo of Flintster" and "Arcane Mazurka" and "Frenetic Flintcotta" o.o

[/ QUOTE ]

hahahaha ML that was priceless... im laughing my [censored] off! :)

[Dafool]

as it stands statistically skill/gear wise bougiousx technically has a better chance at winning in the class based hell knight matches. however in reality i don't have party UD or any of the other 79 skills and i've beaten him plenty in oly. So i honestly don't see how boug had a better chance at signing in opens unless you want to admit that he sucks playing his character against other Hell knights. I'm not trying to bash the poor guy, but i'm also not going to glorify him when he hides from competing against his own class. Had it been me in his shoes, i would have been signing anyway, at least the playing feild is even against your own class unlike in open.

so asuming those 5 hks were all properly geared and not boxes... lol, boug and any other enemy HK still had the oportunity to sign in and disrupt our point waves here and there. The reality of it is that boug didn't feel he could win against Raptorcore who was definatly high on points and can beat boug almost 100% of the time, consequently dropping 1/3 of his points and ensuring rap's hero. The irony of that however is that boug ended up droping much of his points in open olympiad anyway, so i guess that signing in open couldn't have been much better. so i know your not making excuses for boug ML, but not always having enough UD's comes with the territory of tank CB olympiad, good luck getting bougioux stacked in open oly with all these new olympiad killers.

Sorry i didn't catch the post where u had previously mentioned/explained the war on Trznight, but i was there when he was wared, and it was because of his cooperation in our class base, you couldn't have forgotten about him that long guys seriously. I sure hope you don't prove yourself wrong in the future if another neutral decides to compete with us :P. I don't remember the name of the Hell knight that did sign and fight against rap and I, but that guy deserves some credit for at least having some gile.

[ackerman_SR]

I think the HK Rap mentioned,that fighted agains some of our HK,deserves a full boss jewel set for try :o

[Husje]

Can someone explain me why Ragnarok only got 2 heroes instead of the ususal 29 of the 31 this month if they were that **** good organizing like for example Class based, where it apparently takes more organizing skill ???

About Titans, I feared them more before then now. They could get restored Full HP/CP before and now they start with less.

About Fathips, does multiple people play this character? Sometimes I see him/her own people badly, other times I see him/her make really stupid noobie mistakes...

[Jacent]

[ QUOTE ]
Can someone explain me why Ragnarok only got 2 heroes instead of the ususal 29 of the 31 this month if they were that **** good organizing like for example Class based, where it apparently takes more organizing skill ???

[/ QUOTE ]

Teli can bust out a Power Point presentation and edu-mo-kate everyone.

[ QUOTE ]
About Fathips, does multiple people play this character? Sometimes I see him/her own people badly, other times I see him/her make really stupid noobie mistakes...

[/ QUOTE ]

A. I think the hype regarding FatHips has been debunked. Very good player, but not the boogeyman that Hindemith people made him out to be.

B. I don't think there is account sharing going on. As I was telling folks in Vent, I totally thought that it would take a few days or weeks for the competition to get a feel for each other, but with all the craziness I saw going on even this last week I am of the opinion that most Oly combatants are still trying to settle down, get a complete grasp on how their opposition usually plays, and find their "game". Players who were historically solid tripped a lot, and people who had problems in the past were winning some close matches that use to always go to their opponent.

Again, I think it was just a weird month and all the new competition kept people off balance. If anything organization and communication helped minimize that component and let killers concentrate on the match at hand. Props to Teli, Nerual, Ery, Hugo, and Flintster for being as active as they were in that regard. I am sure there were others that helped, but I only know what goes down in the forum and a little in Vent.

[Choco]

Well, the little-known fact that needs to be revealed, is that three of the Hindy clans hired ME to coordinate their Oly activities. YEP, their level of organization (or lack of it) was really my fault. I did it. I'm sorry. I gave all the money back.

Apparently, I'm really not so good at it.

It'll be better next time when they do it themselves.

[Jacent]

[ QUOTE ]
Well, the little-known fact that needs to be revealed, is that three of the Hindy clans hired ME to coordinate their Oly activities. YEP, their level of organization (or lack of it) was really my fault. I did it. I'm sorry. I gave all the money back.

Apparently, I'm really not so good at it.

It'll be better next time when they do it themselves.

[/ QUOTE ]

Contract work. Nice. That's what we need in this game, more outsourcing. Honestly, seeing how hard Teli works on this stuff you two should totally unionize. Think about it. The hours suck. The pay is...nonexistant. Those stock options will never get exercised because the clans will never go public. Career development and vertical movement? Pfffffft (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM2_ZbGfpuY).

[Choco]

Ah, but there is the benefit of Hugo's good feeling--

PRICELESS.

[Jyrki]

Stick to IT Sir!

[CKJ]

i hate to say it but i agree with maya, w/o flint NM would probably get WC in open, and who knows about the class based (im assuming 5-6 total heros) hopefully now that everyone knows who is noble we will see fair class-based for most this month, then we can really see if gustin is so great

[Daik]

how exacly we will see if GUSTIN is so great ?? I mean Nightmare has a HInde clan, CD has a Hinde Clan, Rag has a Gustin clan... so no matter which ally gets the Heros it will be a joined effort of Gustin and Hinde ppl.

Or u refer to the Killers ?? under that statement Organization plays no part and its all about playing ur toon well in Oly

[Jyrki]

[ QUOTE ]
i hate to say it but i agree with maya, w/o flint NM would probably get WC in open, and who knows about the class based (im assuming 5-6 total heros) hopefully now that everyone knows who is noble we will see fair class-based for most this month, then we can really see if gustin is so great

[/ QUOTE ]

Flinster stacking 15+ other people, fending off all the other alliances out there, while maintaining enough points to get himself hero, strong logic. Think you guys give the man too much credit.

[Smittie]

Shut up Jyrki, Flintster is God, and has been God forever on Hinde. :)

[Choco]

I wonder if Flinster can help my sister to see, and my dog to learn to walk again. I wonder if he can turn my lake to wine and do something to generate some loaves and fishes for the destitute people of the earth.

I wonder...

[Venaja]

Can he lower my ego abit as well? It weights about a ton and can be areal burden at times.

[MayatheBee]

Do u know with how many pts Flint ended before 2 months in Hinde? 700 +. Do u know how many he got this month... I bet arround the same ammount if not even more. For the last 3 days he took only 400 from KoHeK.

Flint has no competition. The other titans are bad but the fact that they are overpowered class they still play some factor. E.g I beat some titans and with others I was in close fight but lost, but with Flint I got destroyed with 4-5-6 k crits.

PLEASE, pretty please. The clueless Gustin guys to be quete when they are incompetent about topics they dont get at all. Ty.

@at the question why we didnt have 29 heroes as usual - we had 29 heroes before the server transfers where our ally had gear which is in Flint atm. We had 29 heroes before the transfers cause we had tons of competent ppl that transfered and now are playing at Bartz in emnity or at Teon in X. Some of them are ruling these servers - cornbread (lexcalliber), Koreangr (koreapl), dukester (dukito), moonsentinel, Frankee (Fuankee), saw619 our oly organizator that quit the game and so on and so on. Good reasons dont u think? And u can ask ebilbaby who are these ppl.

[Jyrki]

Poor organization, and excuses is what I see. Once again, he is one player, and there were a constant 3 rounds the past few days. If you can't play around that, speaks volumes.

You like to say us clueless Gustin guys, but so far all I see is a bunch of excuses, and terrible execution. You like to boast like you have accomplished something, and speak of your past, but we really see nothing special. You like to talk about players that left your server, and thats the difference. Here's a hint, Gustin lost A LOT of it's best players to Teon, and Bartz as well, but unlike you... we're not floundering over it, and making excuses for a poor performance, and their departure is why. I'd say your pretty lucky Synergy left for Teon, and a good majority of others left for Bartz... If not, the end result would have been pretty comical here.

LoL, but no... We're the clueless ones.

[Dafool]

Hell knights arn't clueless!!! what we don't know just isn't worth knowing ^____^

[Choco]

can Flinster beat....




wait for it...






more...























Chuck Norris?

[Dafool]

o.O nobody can beat his round house kick, but maybe flinster should start trying to sell horrible exercise equipment too :O

[MasterFlint]

[ QUOTE ]
o.O nobody can beat his round house kick, but maybe flinster should start trying to sell horrible exercise equipment too :O

[/ QUOTE ]

The stuff I sell is high quality.... :(

[MayatheBee]

[ QUOTE ]
Poor organization, and excuses is what I see. Once again, he is one player, and there were a constant 3 rounds the past few days. If you can't play around that, speaks volumes.

You like to say us clueless Gustin guys, but so far all I see is a bunch of excuses, and terrible execution. You like to boast like you have accomplished something, and speak of your past, but we really see nothing special. You like to talk about players that left your server, and thats the difference. Here's a hint, Gustin lost A LOT of it's best players to Teon, and Bartz as well, but unlike you... we're not floundering over it, and making excuses for a poor performance, and their departure is why. I'd say your pretty lucky Synergy left for Teon, and a good majority of others left for Bartz... If not, the end result would have been pretty comical here.

LoL, but no... We're the clueless ones.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh another clueless one... Please guys learn to read... WE CAN TRADE. THERE WAS GOING TO BE NO POINT TO DO IT. FLINTSTER CAN OUTRADE CAUSE HE HAS MORE POINTS... WE HARDLY CAN STOP FLINT WHEN HE WANTS TO TRADE. This is what I want to say in 13 pages already, but u say u have a good organization. The organization here has nothing to do. If u have a good organization why the hell u did not siege and raid anything till now?

This is not about the organization, this is about the points count.

Your ally that left to Teon are playing the role of the non factors. Our players became major players, but the most of them got borred and quit/ stopped playing actively. E.g look at the situation at Bartz right now. I am not saying that they were the main players but they did what it was expected from them. Did I mention Genesiz lost almost all of its NA players, Russian players, its leaders and officers after the server transfers (clan of 100-150 active members redused to 20)? Braveheart lost 30% of its players too, including officers.

[Venaja]

I demand the long posts stop!
I don't have time to read them when i fast switch between browser and healing my rift party :E

[Jyrki]

lol.

and a big, LOL to your second paragraph.

Remind me once again what you and your alliance have accomplished since the server merge?

[MayatheBee]

Hmm lets see... a castle against 3 times more enemies, while u were doing oly. 1 Antharas, 1 Baium. We kinda tryed to take down this week Antharas... but 4 minions non stop spawn... I think still no one is trying to do anything after Divine left the new coalition.

Remind me what NM did? Leeched out Flints points and did oly during sieges? Ok ... great acomplishments for a pvp oriented ally...

[Shinnai]

Im pretty sure Zenith or Manowar could get (nearly) as much points as Flint.. so no, he wont have enough points to feed 20 guys and still be hero.

[YsEternal]

Lol, Maya, noone does anything unless Flint or your ally is involved right??? :eek: Amusing, think many persons did RB everyday I've been on, and Jyrki was totally right, the persons that left Gustin before merge could def kick your elovers ballzitoes every second of their life with no problem, how convenient to state those things when people are gone... :roll:

PS: I hope all of them come back to show you how wron,g someone can be over the internet!!! :eek:

[EbilBaBy]

the flisnter dont stop!

[_HuGo_]

[ QUOTE ]
Hmm lets see... a castle against 3 times more enemies, while u were doing oly. 1 Antharas, 1 Baium. We kinda tryed to take down this week Antharas... but 4 minions non stop spawn... I think still no one is trying to do anything after Divine left the new coalition.

Remind me what NM did? Leeched out Flints points and did oly during sieges? Ok ... great acomplishments for a pvp oriented ally...

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah we leeched flintsters pts during sieges, you got it right maya.

[ackerman_SR]

Maya,tonight i will try contact Flint to see if he has free time.
If he has,i will try convince him take a plane to your place to have some personal moments,cause i think from what you say you would love to lick him....

Be serious,try to think and stop "Self playing".It can hurt your eyes.

Btw from [censored] someone posted a pic that asked if it was you :
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/5186/shitch3.gif

[olala]

funny... not

[Husje]

[ QUOTE ]
Hmm lets see... a castle against 3 times more enemies, while u were doing oly. 1 Antharas, 1 Baium. We kinda tryed to take down this week Antharas... but 4 minions non stop spawn... I think still no one is trying to do anything after Divine left the new coalition.

Remind me what NM did? Leeched out Flints points and did oly during sieges? Ok ... great acomplishments for a pvp oriented ally...

[/ QUOTE ]
Gz for taking DION castle, being the first at killing 2 raid bosses RIGHT AFTER merge and then completely failing at everything.

WAY

TO

GO

MAYA

RAGNAROK

ROCKZORS

PHOENIX

FO

SHO

Now sush and go sit in your corner oh great accomplisher...

[ackerman_SR]

about Maya,i think it will be the first time i will agree with Aldemir :P

(what corner of the house you prefer Maya? )

[Jacent]

[ QUOTE ]
(what corner of the house you prefer Maya? )

[/ QUOTE ]

I can answer that: the bathroom. It's where the tissues are.

[Venaja]

oww BUUURN! :)

[Choco]

is all of Hinde doing what only Syn previously succeeded at?

(driving NM and CD together with all their heart and soul)

[Husje]

Can you stop being a Syn fanboy for a sec?

[Choco]

LOOL.

um.





















no.


But I've always been a TheGenesis fanboy too, so you want me stop that?

[Choco]

BTW, you all should transfer to Teon. That's where all the Syn folks are having the PVP of their lives.

I was just dusting my shrine to Synergy the other day, and I came accross all my framed screenies of great Synergy moments...and I noticed the one where they drove NM and CD together, and I realized that....




























wait for it.

























Hindemith folks are doing the same thing. "you got more heros therefore you....[censored], [censored], [censored]"

And now, all I'm saying, right, wrong or indifferent, is that the Hinde folks are making this into the "you Gustin people used Flint to own everything and although you won, we are actually better in some way."

[FalseGod]

Choco...







































Stop doing this. kkthnx

[XxWaroxX]

Everyone stop hatin on choc!

[FalseGod]

Get Out!

[Choco]

Phoenix Forumers v. Choc?

[XxWaroxX]

I got ur back choc! <3

[Choco]

[ QUOTE ]
Phoenix Forumers v. Choc + a loyal 13 yr. old?

[/ QUOTE ]

*fixed

[XxWaroxX]

I'm 14 but ok! =D

[shortnsexy]

This post is full of "I'm always right, just ask me"

P.S Choc is a well known pot sturer, but gives me hours of good reading material while stuck at work.

+1 cookie

[MayatheBee]

oh u were so scared to do anything alone that it was funny. ur almighty ally desided to gather 3 more on their side so u can be a factor. PLEASE ACOMPLISHE SMTH ALONE.

I heard u [censored] on ur pants having 26 of us Raiding infront of ur zerg Baium today. This is organization... not bringing 250 ppl and say u rock.

[MayatheBee]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Hmm lets see... a castle against 3 times more enemies, while u were doing oly. 1 Antharas, 1 Baium. We kinda tryed to take down this week Antharas... but 4 minions non stop spawn... I think still no one is trying to do anything after Divine left the new coalition.

Remind me what NM did? Leeched out Flints points and did oly during sieges? Ok ... great acomplishments for a pvp oriented ally...

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah we leeched flintsters pts during sieges, you got it right maya.

[/ QUOTE ]

no you were no where at sieges and u even flame. wat a waste of time u are...

[Husje]

[ QUOTE ]
oh u were so scared to do anything alone that it was funny. ur almighty ally desided to gather 3 more on their side so u can be a factor. PLEASE ACOMPLISHE SMTH ALONE.

I heard u [censored] on ur pants having 26 of us Raiding infront of ur zerg Baium today. This is organization... not bringing 250 ppl and say u rock.

[/ QUOTE ]
Thats why Ragnarok is always with NM and Flint Co (you know the guys you said you would not work together???) going for Antharas right ******? You guys achieved allot alone indeed beebrain. Can you be more clueless pls?

About Baium, be there instead of talking about hearsay pumpkin, it would make you not look so bad time after time after time after time and so on.

Why don't you just SHUT UP and just sit on your pedestal of great achievements, ok idiot?

[Daik]

3 things.

1. Nm has a castle Maya, kinda hard to acomplish is they didnt attend, maybe they just didnt go to the one u were at ? Nm was at Oren and Innadril.

2. Ald, Stop stealing my words, I am the one that calls ppl pumpkin. kk thx, find your own word. ( think it was Champ or something )

3. I am awesome ( always worth mentioning. )

K thant is all.

[ackerman_SR]

[ QUOTE ]
oh u were so scared to do anything alone that it was funny. ur almighty ally desided to gather 3 more on their side so u can be a factor. PLEASE ACOMPLISHE SMTH ALONE.

I heard u [censored] on ur pants having 26 of us Raiding infront of ur zerg Baium today. This is organization... not bringing 250 ppl and say u rock.

[/ QUOTE ]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG !!!!
I FEEL EXCITED !!!!!

LoLMayaLoL did a post without writting Flint/Flintster/Flintezza/or anything similar? :eek: :eek: :eek:

What happened LoLMayaLoL ? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

No love for Flint any more? :( </3

[Choco]

OK...NOW we have opportunity for some really good forums.

Have at it, people!

[Choco]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
oh u were so scared to do anything alone that it was funny. ur almighty ally desided to gather 3 more on their side so u can be a factor. PLEASE ACOMPLISHE SMTH ALONE.

I heard u [censored] on ur pants having 26 of us Raiding infront of ur zerg Baium today. This is organization... not bringing 250 ppl and say u rock.

[/ QUOTE ]
Thats why Ragnarok is always with NM and Flint Co (you know the guys you said you would not work together???) going for Antharas right ******? You guys achieved allot alone indeed beebrain. Can you be more clueless pls?

About Baium, be there instead of talking about hearsay pumpkin, it would make you not look so bad time after time after time after time and so on.

Why don't you just SHUT UP and just sit on your pedestal of great achievements, ok idiot?

[/ QUOTE ]

This one was pretty nasty. Not sure I like you getting so up in Maya's face, given that he has such a cool name, Aldy.

The use of '******' and 'idiot' means you are working hard to provoke good forums though, so I'm glad to see you have our forum interests at heart.

[YsEternal]

I wonder if Ragna could take Baium with the 2 parties they had in when they couldn't hold up their breath anymore with 2 guys porting in and out having some fun with their Force... :eek:
Can swear everyone in CD and their dog was pretty excited to phone their friends to log in to try and prevent them from killing Baiumito, I swear!!! :cries:

[Choco]

Hey, totally different topic...have you seen that peeps are calling "Gracia"

"G A R C I A"

???

[Jesslynn]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
oh u were so scared to do anything alone that it was funny. ur almighty ally desided to gather 3 more on their side so u can be a factor. PLEASE ACOMPLISHE SMTH ALONE.

I heard u [censored] on ur pants having 26 of us Raiding infront of ur zerg Baium today. This is organization... not bringing 250 ppl and say u rock.

[/ QUOTE ]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG !!!!
I FEEL EXCITED !!!!!

LoLMayaLoL did a post without writting Flint/Flintster/Flintezza/or anything similar? :eek: :eek: :eek:

What happened LoLMayaLoL ? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

No love for Flint any more? :( </3

[/ QUOTE ]

please stop posting, your scary posts make me cringe.

[Venaja]

Too busy to read all but. Conclusion: Gustin > Hinde ?
Would Gustin cry this much if Hinde would have turned out on top?
Will this post cause hugs and kisses all over the place?

[Galaxy]

this is a pretty outstanding thread. its like 7th grade recess all over again.

*my clic is less gheyier than your clic*
*no way! my clic could beat up your dads clic*
etc.


if you guys really find that being ******s is that entertaining, why arent you posting all this on bla?

[EbilBaBy]

i heard maya came from the BGs

[YsEternal]

[ QUOTE ]
Would Gustin cry this much if Hinde would have turned out on top?

[/ QUOTE ]

Who cares, we are on Phoenix now, I'm pretty sure there are good and bad guys everywhere... :eek:

[Taz]

[ QUOTE ]
i heard maya came from the BGs

[/ QUOTE ]

I heard Ebil is moving back to Phoenix

[EbilBaBy]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i heard maya came from the BGs

[/ QUOTE ]

I heard Ebil is moving back to Phoenix

[/ QUOTE ]
i heard u will pay :O

[Choco]

WB Ebil.

Now the forums will wake up : )

[Taz]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i heard maya came from the BGs

[/ QUOTE ]

I heard Ebil is moving back to Phoenix

[/ QUOTE ]
i heard u will pay :O

[/ QUOTE ]

Awwww......wasn't de-lvling you at Oren good enough, now you want me to pay......come get some lil elf ;)

[Jyrki]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i heard maya came from the BGs

[/ QUOTE ]

I heard Ebil is moving back to Phoenix

[/ QUOTE ]
i heard u will pay :O

[/ QUOTE ]

Awwww......wasn't de-lvling you at Oren good enough, now you want me to pay......come get some lil elf ;)

[/ QUOTE ]

When did that happen O.o

[Taz]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i heard maya came from the BGs

[/ QUOTE ]

I heard Ebil is moving back to Phoenix

[/ QUOTE ]
i heard u will pay :O

[/ QUOTE ]

Awwww......wasn't de-lvling you at Oren good enough, now you want me to pay......come get some lil elf ;)

[/ QUOTE ]

When did that happen O.o

[/ QUOTE ]

Long time ago. Outside Oren, durning the Raid Boss Event.

[Jyrki]

Oh God, are you talking about like 4 years ago when Ebil use to be in my clan, and she was still B Grade? lol?

[Taz]

[ QUOTE ]
Oh God, are you talking about like 4 years ago when Ebil use to be in my clan, and she was still B Grade? lol?

[/ QUOTE ]

The good old days ;)

[MayatheBee]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
oh u were so scared to do anything alone that it was funny. ur almighty ally desided to gather 3 more on their side so u can be a factor. PLEASE ACOMPLISHE SMTH ALONE.

I heard u [censored] on ur pants having 26 of us Raiding infront of ur zerg Baium today. This is organization... not bringing 250 ppl and say u rock.

[/ QUOTE ]
Thats why Ragnarok is always with NM and Flint Co (you know the guys you said you would not work together???) going for Antharas right ******? You guys achieved allot alone indeed beebrain. Can you be more clueless pls?

About Baium, be there instead of talking about hearsay pumpkin, it would make you not look so bad time after time after time after time and so on.

Why don't you just SHUT UP and just sit on your pedestal of great achievements, ok idiot?

[/ QUOTE ]

Enlighten me pls. We ve been together for one Antharas raid and for one Frintezza raid. We didnt siege together, NM preffered to carebear during the sieges and go to castles which their enemies didnt siege and in the same time to do oly.
We didnt even ever raid together, not to mention that it was close before a day to war em. Pitty kohek is too carebear to war NM too.

So uhm yeah, since we and NM have the same enemies it is not against the rules sometimes to show to fight against u together. Is it a bit logical, mr "I call Maya an idiot and a ****** so I am smart and cool".

As G said move to [censored] where the most of Hinde post and we will make u cry.

[MayatheBee]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
oh u were so scared to do anything alone that it was funny. ur almighty ally desided to gather 3 more on their side so u can be a factor. PLEASE ACOMPLISHE SMTH ALONE.


I heard u [censored] on ur pants having 26 of us Raiding infront of ur zerg Baium today. This is organization... not bringing 250 ppl and say u rock.

[/ QUOTE ]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG !!!!
I FEEL EXCITED !!!!!

LoLMayaLoL did a post without writting Flint/Flintster/Flintezza/or anything similar? :eek: :eek: :eek:

What happened LoLMayaLoL ? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

No love for Flint any more? :( </3

[/ QUOTE ]

OMG OMG I am not surpriced my newest fanboi made another post about me.

[Venaja]

I like you too maya, not just showing it so much :p

[Daik]

once again, Nm did siege, we even fought Cd and friends at Innadril, we did not do Oly, that was Memoria who was not in Nm by then. I didnt see Rag anywhere tho, which castles did u guys go for ? didnt u get Dion ?? who was signed there ?

[Karigan_Imm]

Wow. Don't read forums for a few days and all hell breaks lose. You guys really type too much.

I can honestly say I had a good time doing Olympiad this month. There were tons of new faces and lots of new play styles to adapt to, which made the Olympiad, as a whole, very enjoyable. I gotta admit, I didn't pay attention to the point trading early on in the month as I previously did for various reasons (epic raids, sieges, etc), and as a result at the end of the month we were a little uncertain which classes had already gotten traded and how many points they held. I think we missed out on a couple potential heroes as a result. I also mistakenly pm'd NorthPole and congratulated him on hero, thinking he had gotten traded a lot more points than what he had in reality. Oops.

Organizationally, Nightmare had, hands down, the highest consistent turnout of nobles for Olympiad point trading than any other major alliance out there. Major props to them, this is why they have the heroes they do. I did not see nearly the level of participation from CD or Ragnorak or FS nobles as there were NM. The hero results were not that big of a surprise if you watched Oly throughout the month.

Congrats to the first set of Heroes on Phoenix, and here's hoping for even more fun in the Olympiad for August.

[Husje]

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Enlighten me pls. We ve been together for one Antharas raid and for one Frintezza raid. We didnt siege together, NM preffered to carebear during the sieges and go to castles which their enemies didnt siege and in the same time to do oly.
We didnt even ever raid together, not to mention that it was close before a day to war em. Pitty kohek is too carebear to war NM too.

[/ QUOTE ]
Wow you still continue to amaze me.

Just one Antharas Raid you say? What about Antharas Raid nr 2? (http://files.filefront.com/Antharaswmv/;11328966;/fileinfo.html).
The heroes you just called "the work of flint, cry cry cry" fighting next to your allymates? What about Ragnarok not just PvPing but also PvEing with NM in places like Hellbound?

Seems to me that you sir don't even know whats going on in your own alliance and who is friend & Foe. All you know is to cry on the forums with baseless facts, thats all. You are pathetic really, expected more from you.

Have a nice day Maya

[ackerman_SR]

+1 Aldemir .....

Maybe Maya has no idea what is happening and probably likes only blaming everyone at forum(IG wartags and friends also) without knowing about the political situation of his clan/ally.

As Aldemir said : "All you know is to cry on the forums with baseless facts, thats all. You are pathetic really".

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/846/bcp714691tf7em9.jpg

[MayatheBee]

Next time I ll screen my pms with Hugo, so u mr.Ignorant shut up finally. IT IS NORMAL WHEN WE HAVE COMMON ENEMIES TO BE AT THE SAME PLACE AND SAME TIME TOGETHER. That doesnt mean we work together. Hugo doesnt want. He is a greedy guy that wants everything for him and he is not up to make compromises. We are not working with such a guy. If and when Hugo is up to play on our terms + their terms u can say we work together, but when Hugo wants to play on their terms only.... sorry but u are wrong.

Ragnarock is still raiding and killing anyone in the pvps we got. NM have their useless heroes. CDs + FS are raiding and pvping... so I dont see how only our ally is the garbage here. But well I guess everyone has his own point of view.

I havent seen yet a group of ragna + nm in HB. The only groups from our ally is the constant gdl group and my groups. I remember once the hero sps (bg cool guy with whom I speak in vent often) was exping and ganging near our group and that is all about it.

[Choco]

I blame Aldemir for this entire thread.

[Smittie]

What is a gdl group?

[ackerman_SR]

Maya,better talk with IIP,Tekila,****oman etc etc and cut the [censored]....

[Husje]

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Next time I ll screen my pms with Hugo, so u mr.Ignorant shut up finally. IT IS NORMAL WHEN WE HAVE COMMON ENEMIES TO BE AT THE SAME PLACE AND SAME TIME TOGETHER. That doesnt mean we work together. Hugo doesnt want. He is a greedy guy that wants everything for him and he is not up to make compromises. We are not working with such a guy. If and when Hugo is up to play on our terms + their terms u can say we work together, but when Hugo wants to play on their terms only.... sorry but u are wrong.

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What is this WE you speak of really? Do you even know if you are at the same wave length as your own ally? Looks like lil Maya is either playing dumb or left in the dark :(

Why would NM go into the lair itself with Ragnarok if it isn't for raiding together and sharing the loot afterwards in the second Anthy raid? Just for PvP? Are you FFing kidding me? Heck look at the movie of Flint at the first big Anthy raid video. The guy is TELLING the CC leader to do the bubble for Christ sakes let alone being in the same CC with your ally...
What your ally and NM has is waaaaaaaaay past being at the same place at the same time for a common enemy, you are just to ignorant or plainly stupid to see this. You know the funny part? You are so dumb that you don't realize you are actually flaming your own allies you work with being delusional that there is something else going on. Silly man you are!

[ QUOTE ]
Ragnarock is still raiding and killing anyone in the pvps we got. NM have their useless heroes. CDs + FS are raiding and pvping... so I dont see how only our ally is the garbage here. But well I guess everyone has his own point of view.

[/ QUOTE ]
I never said that Ragnarok is garbage in this thread. Just pointing out how stupid and clueless you are my good fellow. Nothing more :)

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I havent seen yet a group of ragna + nm in HB. The only groups from our ally is the constant gdl group and my groups. I remember once the hero sps (bg cool guy with whom I speak in vent often) was exping and ganging near our group and that is all about it.

[/ QUOTE ]
Well you aren't even around to see things and when you are, you make up your own reality on whats going on there.

Yesterday, Group of Ragnarok with Fahrenheit (ClearlyClueless GK, NM ALLY) in the same party with your buddy Kohek xping at the green field area in HB.
Some time after, the same party + Nostrova (ClearlyClueless SM Hero, NM ALLY). Again ask your buddy Kohek.
The day before, Eruan + Boxed MagicianD & SixtusII in the same party with Ragnarok in HB. No they werent just there cause after the EE PR'ed from us those two went allong.
And many many others...

Gimme more awesome proof so I , "Mr Ignorant", can laugh at you, uhhh sorry "finally shut up".

[Taz]

WOW.....that vain on your forehead is poking out again my friend.....blood pressure, take a few breaths and relax for a min.

[shortnsexy]

What is this thread about again? I'm confusald.

A) 1st batch of Phenix heros?
B) Man Crushes/Man love?
C) Anger management Therapy?
D)Making friends?
E) Ebil LF L2 Sugar Dady?
F) Choc causes mayham from the side lines?
G)none of the above
H)all of the above

[XxWaroxX]

I would say H but then that would include non of the above which wouldn't make sense! o.O

[MayatheBee]

I am a very respected officer in my clan. About a month and a half before I was thinking about quitting and left the clan. I had lots of pms and our forum was flooded to come back. This made me come back, realising I had ppl that like me and care for me. Actually for the last 6 months I was going to quit many times but the ppl in our ally made me not to. So you are wrong about me.

We are fine with CC, they are not what hugo is. We were about the make an ally with CC. They are a good group of ppl. Sad they joined NM seems we were not able to find one language.

Last week I was playing 8 hours per day so I do know what happens. These gdl groups that include gezza, nostrova and the cardi is not a news for me. We ve been playing with gezza and the cardinal from the very begining of the merge. As I already said they are a cool group of ppl to play with even if they are in NM already. Not to mention that Ragna has not much support classes in HB so ppl like them are always welcome.

As I said CC are soon in NM and we are still playing with them. That doesnt include Hugo's and Flints clans. When they both grow up and start thinkin bout their players and the new coalition they are willing to make and are prepared to get off their greedyness, make some compromisses then u can talk about working together. But sadly... u know Hugo and I know Flint. I doubt this will happen.

The first Antharas raid we had NM in the CC. I doubt for the second, althou I logged in when we tryed to go in for the second time in the period betwen 3pm cst-11 pm cst. I remember very good cause at that night I was talking with CC, Imperivm, Divine, NM to join our raid for 3 hours or more. It was a hell of a long night :)

So uhm yeah anything else fella? We are getting no where with that conversation. Lets have it locked or smth and lets see what will happend in the new month.

P.S: when is the **** gracia update I got confused looking for some kind of a news about it?

[MayatheBee]

upss I replied to a wrong person :S

[Jesslynn]

Hi maya ^^ Hm i think the only official news is Sometime this month.

[MayatheBee]

Ty, Jess <3.

[BlitzkriegKnight]

As of right now can anyone tell me the political landscape of Phoenix? I'm not too aware of the major Gustin clans or what happened to the major Hinde clans either.
Ragnarok = Braveheart, xgdlx, ? (war versus ?)
Nightmare = Genesiz, (insert Gustin clans name here) ? ( war versus ?)
CD = (insert Gustin clans names here) ? ( war versus ?)
where does Divine, Impervium, FS and any other Gustin clans that aren't named above settle in this mess? Sorry if I missed anybody, been out of game for a bit.

[shortnsexy]

[ QUOTE ]
Hi maya ^^ Hm i think the only official news is Sometime this month.

[/ QUOTE ]

[Jesslynn]

[ QUOTE ]
As of right now can anyone tell me the political landscape of Phoenix? I'm not too aware of the major Gustin clans or what happened to the major Hinde clans either.
Ragnarok = Braveheart, xgdlx, ? (war versus ?)
Nightmare = Genesiz, (insert Gustin clans name here) ? ( war versus ?)
CD = (insert Gustin clans names here) ? ( war versus ?)
where does Divine, Impervium, FS and any other Gustin clans that aren't named above settle in this mess? Sorry if I missed anybody, been out of game for a bit.

[/ QUOTE ]

Justin!111 You're coming back!? I knew it :)

[BlitzkriegKnight]

Hai GrlFrnd!!!1one
<3 Kentucky.....................Fried Chicken, that is :P

[Choco]

I think "MayatheBee" is a very cool name.

Don't quit.

OK, what we talking about again? Oh Yeah.

HEROESEZ

[Jesslynn]

lol Blitz its amazing I cross the Illinois border into Kentucky and everyone has accents :( mmm chicken

[BlitzkriegKnight]

lol.

So, Jess. Wanna do your part in telling me what I wanna know.....where does errone stand in this game we call life, erm I mean L2.

[Smittie]

I still dont know what gdl groups are >.<

[shortnsexy]

grind/ding/leveling?

shot in the dark ofc.

[Smittie]

Thanks for trying SnS.

[Jesslynn]

[ QUOTE ]
As of right now can anyone tell me the political landscape of Phoenix? I'm not too aware of the major Gustin clans or what happened to the major Hinde clans either.
Ragnarok = Braveheart, xgdlx, ? (war versus ?)
Nightmare = Genesiz, (insert Gustin clans name here) ? ( war versus ?)
CD = (insert Gustin clans names here) ? ( war versus ?)
where does Divine, Impervium, FS and any other Gustin clans that aren't named above settle in this mess? Sorry if I missed anybody, been out of game for a bit.

[/ QUOTE ]
Lol your asking the wrong person but I will tell you what I know (which isnt much) >< I think ragnorok is in war with the crazy looking batman yellow and black colorful tags, I think this is CD (stands for Carpe diem maybe?) And they hate NM ally cuz flint is in it but they work together cuz they have common enemies: CD. Hugo leads NM and nobody likes him cuz he's as greedy as flint? Ragnorok invited some Gustin clan(i think?) into ally after Imperivm left. When Imperivm left Rag ally Divine(includes IN) dropped wars, but we still have war with FS(which will never drop its like permanent), and CD.
lol anyone else wanna elaborate?

[Jesslynn]

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I still dont know what gdl groups are >.<

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gdl groups = groups of players from the clan xgdlx

[XxWaroxX]

CD=Camelot TheGenesis offenvise
NM=Genesis ClearlyClueless Nocturnes
Rag= Braveheart xgdlx Pilgrims

FS and BlackHeavenInc are with CD along with Divine I believe.

So its NM and Rag vs CD, ****edSteel (FS and BlackHeaven) and Divine. Dunno who Impervium is with.

Thats how I see it, correct me if I'm wrong.

[BlitzkriegKnight]

Thanks Jess and Magnanimous.

[shortnsexy]

6CLAN V/S 6 CLAN is how it reads from the outside looking in. Still only 2 sided server but I predict some pretty interesting changes on the horizen.Atm everyone is still getting there bearings and feeling each other out. Greed, pressure, losses, and power strugles can cause big divisions real quick.

This is a proficy more than a prediction but dosent take an oracle to see this comming :)

[ChocoPiie]

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CD=Camelot TheGenesis offenvise
NM=Genesis ClearlyClueless Nocturnes
Rag= Braveheart xgdlx Pilgrims

FS and BlackHeavenInc are with CD along with Divine I believe.

So its NM and Rag vs CD, ****edSteel (FS and BlackHeaven) and Divine. Dunno who Impervium is with.

Thats how I see it, correct me if I'm wrong.

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need a little bit of correction:

it's Carpediem (thegenesis+carmelot+offensive) +****edSteel(FS+BHi) versus Nightmare(norturnus+nemesiz( flint changed his clan's name)+clearlyclueless) + ragnarok (BH,GDL,pilgrim).

-imprivm left ragnarok but still has wars with CD+DS
-divine doesnt work with CD and DS anymore, and they also dropped all wars (except the one with dominion)
-dominion has wars with CD +DS

[XxWaroxX]

Ah thx, but whos dominion? =P

[ChocoPiie]

1-clan ally, the clan name is veritas

[_HuGo_]

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Next time I ll screen my pms with Hugo, so u mr.Ignorant shut up finally. IT IS NORMAL WHEN WE HAVE COMMON ENEMIES TO BE AT THE SAME PLACE AND SAME TIME TOGETHER. That doesnt mean we work together. Hugo doesnt want. He is a greedy guy that wants everything for him and he is not up to make compromises. We are not working with such a guy. If and when Hugo is up to play on our terms + their terms u can say we work together, but when Hugo wants to play on their terms only.... sorry but u are wrong.

Ragnarock is still raiding and killing anyone in the pvps we got. NM have their useless heroes. CDs + FS are raiding and pvping... so I dont see how only our ally is the garbage here. But well I guess everyone has his own point of view.

I havent seen yet a group of ragna + nm in HB. The only groups from our ally is the constant gdl group and my groups. I remember once the hero sps (bg cool guy with whom I speak in vent often) was exping and ganging near our group and that is all about it.

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hehe

I can put up the screenshots if you want...

I simply wanted you to stop making these moronic posts on the boards so yes, I do want to work together but you're in the way :P

[Dafool]

so far maya i think you misrepresent your alliance by spreading pointless and baseless acusations. I'm sure it's very greedy of NM to want drops divided by each alliance in turn. I find it strange, but from what i hear from the past/present when ever Ragnorak hosted the bids for boss jewls recieved from the epics, for some reason a rag person usually won. There's the flaw in your silly closed bid system, its very easy to tell an ally mate what the max bid is before the auction is over, getting a biaum ring for 800mil vs its market price of between 1.5bil to 2bil.

I think you have a lot to learn and to understand about how Gustin players distributed loot from raids. If anything we NM have been very open minded with your annoying closed bid system, you have yet to be as open minded. good day sir.

[Choco]

el Dee, I miss our long moonlight walks....


sigh.

[Dafool]

holding hands on the beach? me too

[Shic]

I never really did understand the whole 'bid for drops' thing I cannot see how it would benefit a clan or an ally, sure everyone might get a bit of adena, but at the same time what you wind up with is who have the most adena no matter what means they get it who wind up with these items, not those who need it most. Distributing the items via discussion among the leaders/rolling of a dice and then allowing the leaders to distribute it to those who need it most makes far more sense, it allows those who cannot afford these auctions a chance at advancement as well.

[Dafool]

exactly shic, i agree

[LucyfurZaana]

i'm saying can we all juss git along jah? i have cookies!

[Shic]

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i'm saying can we all juss git along jah? i have cookies!

[/ QUOTE ]As nice as this might be lol *swipes cookies* It wouldn't be a pvp game if we did

[BlitzkriegKnight]

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Distributing the items via discussion among the leaders/rolling of a dice and then allowing the leaders to distribute it to those who need it most makes far more sense, it allows those who cannot afford these auctions a chance at advancement as well.

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Doing it this way also allows for the leaders to give this items to who they "like" more then who really needs it more. Both systems are flawed imho. I was part of the "bid" system while i was in RD on Hinde. I enjoyed being part of that system because I was able to make sums of adena that I was unable to make otherwise. That adena was then used to buy items gained by proceeding raids. All the adena was basically kept within allys and made the ally stronger as a whole. (eg. in my first 2 weeks in RD i made 80-100 million adena just by doing the raids. This gave me incentive to keep attending the raids)

That being said, I'm not knocking the other system too much only because I havent experienced it yet. During my 4 years on Hinde, I was in 2 major alliances who were capable of doing epics. One ran with the "give" system. This system was epic-ly messed because the clan held onto all the jewels and lend them to people who needed them for oly/pvp. In the end this ally crumbled and the 1 clan leader was left with a WH full of epics. Did he deserve to reap the fruits of the work his entire ally all on his own? I dont think so. In the end what happened to said epics? I bet they were given to the people in caln who he liked (like his wife, her only xp buddy, himself) rather them the people who deserved them.

...sorry for ranting. To sum it all up, both systems are flawed. Which one you use.....is up to you.

[MayatheBee]

I must agree with what BK said. I know hes a very smart guy.

I ll sum it up. Both systems have flawless and strenghts. The problem in ur system is that it is based on thrust and thrust cant be gained in the situation we are at right now and especially having ppl like Flint that scammed our entire ally. Not to mention in order to use this system u need to have a very good and trustfull leadership, that knows its members very good. I will give the perfect example for Hindemith's ppl for what I mean - Tokara. I believe the whole server will remember him for his stealing of Antharas and Baium from core (except for beeing the best oly killer for about 2 years).

In our system the flaw again is the the trust. The other problem is that ppl used to use ur system wont have much of adena to bid on items which again makes a problem.

I dont like our system too. I am trying to change it, but there again is a problem. Our ppl are get used to our old system that u hardly can make em come if u dont give em adena. Yeah I know this is weird even stupid... but this is it.

@Hugo.
Sorry, but I believe KoHeK last told me that u have been greedy and this is why he havent agreed with u to work together. If I was the only one that is behind this I would be asked for a compromise which I would do if all the others are cool with a partnership with ur useless ally. Another option was me to get kicked. So unfortunatelly I think u are wrong.

[Shic]

But in that if you cannot trust your leadership you are in the wrong clan. I know I personally trust my clan and ally leader. I dont believe I've seen favoritism amongst the members in the months I've been here. There may be flaws to each system, but I've heard a number of people tell me in game auctioning also promotes those dumb automated chars which are farming adena which is available online for money.

All in all there is flaws in all sysems, no system will ever be flawless, but I truely believe if you cannot trust your leadership, you better rethink what clan you are tagged with.

[_HuGo_]

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I must agree with what BK said. I know hes a very smart guy.

I ll sum it up. Both systems have flawless and strenghts. The problem in ur system is that it is based on thrust and thrust cant be gained in the situation we are at right now and especially having ppl like Flint that scammed our entire ally. Not to mention in order to use this system u need to have a very good and trustfull leadership, that knows its members very good. I will give the perfect example for Hindemith's ppl for what I mean - Tokara. I believe the whole server will remember him for his stealing of Antharas and Baium from core (except for beeing the best oly killer for about 2 years).

In our system the flaw again is the the trust. The other problem is that ppl used to use ur system wont have much of adena to bid on items which again makes a problem.

I dont like our system too. I am trying to change it, but there again is a problem. Our ppl are get used to our old system that u hardly can make em come if u dont give em adena. Yeah I know this is weird even stupid... but this is it.

@Hugo.
Sorry, but I believe KoHeK last told me that u have been greedy and this is why he havent agreed with u to work together. If I was the only one that is behind this I would be asked for a compromise which I would do if all the others are cool with a partnership with ur useless ally. Another option was me to get kicked. So unfortunatelly I think u are wrong.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wait its greedy to say if we're getting the first baium, you get the first frint and then we roll for the antharas?

What kohek wanted was, if we were to get the first baium then, he wanted the first antharas and roll for the frintezza?

yeah, im greedy.

[Daik]

I am not 100% sure of how the bidding system works, so if someone can please answer a few questions :)

can people that didnt attend a raid bid for an Item ???


Is yes => whats to prevent a person that is very "good" at getting adenas fast to just get all the boss jewles with no effort at all, and how would that benefit the clan as a whole ?

If no => how will a Mage ever get a Frint ?? or they HAVE to have a subclass to play or an alt or something ??

what happens to people that are just not usefull but want to go the raid only for the items ?? are they allowed ?? can a lv 70 toon go to Antharas just because he wants part of the loot money ?? why does he deserve an equal share than me if I am higher lv, more useful and also had to plan the raid ? WHat happens if I already have a specific Epic but want another to sell ? do I get it if I can outbid my clanies ?

in my clan its mostly the same few ppl that raid alot basically because they are the right classes for the raid, so they would get richer and richer, while the people that cant raid due to their class get left behind..

What about people that organize Olympiad ? or castle sieges ? dont they merit something for their efforts even if they cant go to a raid due to the time or he lack of a class thats usefull ?

What if a Nuker wants an AQ and can pay more than an Archer ?? how does my clan get stronger with an AQ on a nuker instead of an archer ?

I dont like the Bid system basically because it seems to benefit only the people that have the most money, which sometimes arent the most helpful and at times they dont really need what they are buying..

If u have a good fair leadership, and u add to that some good officers the "give" system works very well, if u are not confortable with that u can even decide to put it up fo rvote with the general clanies.. but the main thing is, the clan gets stronger by making stronger the people that are most helpful, and benefit the most from what u give.

Just my thoughs :P

[BlitzkriegKnight]

All good points from Daik. If the leadership actually does give out the items to the people who "need" or deserve the item instead of the people who they like the best, it is a good system.

My only concern is the incentive to people to actually attend the raids. My class is a Stormscreamer. I'm no good for Frint, but I go to help the actual frint groups get in through the pvp at IT entrance. Frint necklace helps me a little bit in the resist department. Will I ever be given a neckalce..probably not. Same for Bauim. Dunno the tactic for killing him, but last I checked archers>nukers for him. My cast speed will go up 4%, but its much more benificial to give that jewel to an archer...will I ever be given a Baium? Probably not. So on and so forth. The only jewel that is really benificial to me as a nuker ( I am be wrong 100% here) is the Valakas. And tbh, clan leaders and other more "important" people will have their hands all over that jewel wayyyyy before me as a clan peon on the totempole. So where is my incentive to continue to help in these endevours and never get anything in return. Maybe if I was getting a cut of the 2bil bid on Valakas id be a little more inclined to attend.

Again, I'm not trying to fight anyone here......maybe just stir the pot a bit :P

P.S. an Anth would be nice for me too, but then again I'd probably be diagnosed with totempole-idus again. Also im looking at the stats for each jewel off.... http://interlude.webovastranka.sk/image/1628/15119_Earring_Of_Orfen .....which may be incorrect

[MayatheBee]

[ QUOTE ]
I am not 100% sure of how the bidding system works, so if someone can please answer a few questions :)

can people that didnt attend a raid bid for an Item ???


Is yes => whats to prevent a person that is very "good" at getting adenas fast to just get all the boss jewles with no effort at all, and how would that benefit the clan as a whole ?

If no => how will a Mage ever get a Frint ?? or they HAVE to have a subclass to play or an alt or something ??

what happens to people that are just not usefull but want to go the raid only for the items ?? are they allowed ?? can a lv 70 toon go to Antharas just because he wants part of the loot money ?? why does he deserve an equal share than me if I am higher lv, more useful and also had to plan the raid ? WHat happens if I already have a specific Epic but want another to sell ? do I get it if I can outbid my clanies ?

in my clan its mostly the same few ppl that raid alot basically because they are the right classes for the raid, so they would get richer and richer, while the people that cant raid due to their class get left behind..

What about people that organize Olympiad ? or castle sieges ? dont they merit something for their efforts even if they cant go to a raid due to the time or he lack of a class thats usefull ?

What if a Nuker wants an AQ and can pay more than an Archer ?? how does my clan get stronger with an AQ on a nuker instead of an archer ?

I dont like the Bid system basically because it seems to benefit only the people that have the most money, which sometimes arent the most helpful and at times they dont really need what they are buying..

If u have a good fair leadership, and u add to that some good officers the "give" system works very well, if u are not confortable with that u can even decide to put it up fo rvote with the general clanies.. but the main thing is, the clan gets stronger by making stronger the people that are most helpful, and benefit the most from what u give.

Just my thoughs :P

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Ppl that havent attend the raid can bid.

There is no way to stop that, which actually I dislike in our system. This is why useless ppl like Flint, airi and captjacksparrow are full with epics.

lvl 70 toon hardly can attend a raid unless it is some great exception (lacking sws, bd in archer grp; very bad lack on cardi, ee or se).

Once u have bidded for an epic u cant sell it (it is not good to do it) cause u cant bid again for the same jewel.

It doesnt exist such thing as bidding for AQ.

Basically I dont like our system too. For example I ve been in ally with Flint, Captjacksparrow and Airi and I have at least 20 (if not hundreds) times more pvps than all their toons have together but I have no epics while these guys have every epic in the game. Not to mention that ppl like CaptJacksparrow and airi have almost never showed for siege, pvp or raid or organized anything.

So uhm yeah, our system has lots of flaws and I am the first willing to change it.

[YsEternal]

[ QUOTE ]
holding hands on the beach? me too

[/ QUOTE ]
Wasn't my hand!!! :eek: :love:

[YsEternal]

So you say Hugo is greedy, you hate Flinster and Ragna can do very well on their own (pvp and raids), yet you still have to raid with N because you need them to succeed at doing it... Talk about being an hypocrite... :eek:

[Mysticaylee]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I am not 100% sure of how the bidding system works, so if someone can please answer a few questions :)

can people that didnt attend a raid bid for an Item ???


Is yes => whats to prevent a person that is very "good" at getting adenas fast to just get all the boss jewles with no effort at all, and how would that benefit the clan as a whole ?

If no => how will a Mage ever get a Frint ?? or they HAVE to have a subclass to play or an alt or something ??

what happens to people that are just not usefull but want to go the raid only for the items ?? are they allowed ?? can a lv 70 toon go to Antharas just because he wants part of the loot money ?? why does he deserve an equal share than me if I am higher lv, more useful and also had to plan the raid ? WHat happens if I already have a specific Epic but want another to sell ? do I get it if I can outbid my clanies ?

in my clan its mostly the same few ppl that raid alot basically because they are the right classes for the raid, so they would get richer and richer, while the people that cant raid due to their class get left behind..

What about people that organize Olympiad ? or castle sieges ? dont they merit something for their efforts even if they cant go to a raid due to the time or he lack of a class thats usefull ?

What if a Nuker wants an AQ and can pay more than an Archer ?? how does my clan get stronger with an AQ on a nuker instead of an archer ?

I dont like the Bid system basically because it seems to benefit only the people that have the most money, which sometimes arent the most helpful and at times they dont really need what they are buying..

If u have a good fair leadership, and u add to that some good officers the "give" system works very well, if u are not confortable with that u can even decide to put it up fo rvote with the general clanies.. but the main thing is, the clan gets stronger by making stronger the people that are most helpful, and benefit the most from what u give.

Just my thoughs :P

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Ppl that havent attend the raid can bid.

There is no way to stop that, which actually I dislike in our system. This is why useless ppl like Flint, airi and captjacksparrow are full with epics.

lvl 70 toon hardly can attend a raid unless it is some great exception (lacking sws, bd in archer grp; very bad lack on cardi, ee or se).

Once u have bidded for an epic u cant sell it (it is not good to do it) cause u cant bid again for the same jewel.

It doesnt exist such thing as bidding for AQ.

Basically I dont like our system too. For example I ve been in ally with Flint, Captjacksparrow and Airi and I have at least 20 (if not hundreds) times more pvps than all their toons have together but I have no epics while these guys have every epic in the game. Not to mention that ppl like CaptJacksparrow and airi have almost never showed for siege, pvp or raid or organized anything.

So uhm yeah, our system has lots of flaws and I am the first willing to change it.

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Sorry Maya <3 almost right but not quite. Ppl that come to help in pvp and are in the CC for that purpose get to bid and get a split from the bids, afterall in many cases the raid couldn't be done if not for the ppl there willing to pvp. If someone is exping off in FoG they don't get a thing, they didn't help with anything and by rights shouldn't get the bonus to be able to bid or get money from splits. We did have rules in ally that the boss jewels can not be resold and you had to be in clan/ally a specific amount of time to be able to bid. You can make quite a bit of money, I know a few people who made enough money during Frint splits to bid on and get Baium jewel. Everyone has the opportunity to make money and not just spend it so someone who is already 80+ can be given a Jewel. I know it leads to resentment and fewer people tend to come to raids.

[MayatheBee]

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So you say Hugo is greedy, you hate Flinster and Ragna can do very well on their own (pvp and raids), yet you still have to raid with N because you need them to succeed at doing it... Talk about being an hypocrite... :eek:

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it is exactly the opposite. we dont need much fire power (26 ppl raiding Baium e.g) cause we know how to raid. hugo is the one that needs us. yet we invite ppl when we do not have enough to raid and in order to start a good political relationships with the invited ppl.

[MayatheBee]

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Wait its greedy to say if we're getting the first baium, you get the first frint and then we roll for the antharas?

What kohek wanted was, if we were to get the first baium then, he wanted the first antharas and roll for the frintezza?

yeah, im greedy.

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speak about heros, loot, castles. we give u epics u give us heroes... no. at least this is wat u said.

[_HuGo_]

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Wait its greedy to say if we're getting the first baium, you get the first frint and then we roll for the antharas?

What kohek wanted was, if we were to get the first baium then, he wanted the first antharas and roll for the frintezza?

yeah, im greedy.

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speak about heros, loot, castles. we give u epics u give us heroes... no. at least this is wat u said.

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If you want I can post the 10~ screenshots where we have our conversation where you do nothing but talk in circles.

I can also post the 18 screenshots w/ half the conversation where kohek is talking about nothing but he wants the first antharas and we roll for the frint and we get to keep the first baium.

Please, keep making yourself look like a fool.

edit: ... let me add, who failed antharas twice? oops... you're strong enough on your own... thats right.

[YsEternal]

Hugo please, war Ragnarok, i'll let you the next antharas and Baium... :eek: I'm sure we can all watch and learn a lot from "Hindemytho" finest pvpers/raiders/circletalkers... :rawr:

[TheVrag]

i heard from some ragnarok that antharas drops items at 95% health. btw this thread is trash and choco never stops talking senseless [censored]

[Teli]

You all got Vrag to post more than "lol"....

You should either be honored or ashamed of yourselves I'm not sure which ;)

[shortnsexy]

Be nice mr Bee is starting good political relationships for ragrock.

[MayatheBee]

I ll be glad to have wars up with NM. At least (I hope) u ll be able to find wartags somewhere beside the sieges and the pvps for epics.

Hugo speak bout ur ally that with its great organization and leadership (lol) have done numerious of raids and sieges (sigeing Heine when all castles are free is epic).

[MayatheBee]

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Hugo please, war Ragnarok, i'll let you the next antharas and Baium... :eek: I'm sure we can all watch and learn a lot from "Hindemytho" finest pvpers/raiders/circletalkers... :rawr:

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Lol only FS + ragnarock will make NM and CD brake up. Not mentioning divine cause they have never been much pvp oriented and hardcore pvpers. But I am sure these 2 are always happy when there are more enemies to war against.

[MCPOOOPYPANTZ]

David Hasselfhoff is ****

[ackerman_SR]

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I ll be glad to have wars up with NM. At least (I hope) u ll be able to find wartags somewhere beside the sieges and the pvps for epics.

Hugo speak bout ur ally that with its great organization and leadership (lol) have done numerious of raids and sieges (sigeing Heine when all castles are free is epic).

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I really wonder generally at all your replies-posts,if what you say are representing Kohek's/clan's/ally's opinion or they are just your personal [censored]....

[Jyrki]

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David Hasselfhoff is ****

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Truth.

[shortnsexy]

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David Hasselfhoff is ****

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Truth.

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[Husje]

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

AKA

LOL @ Maya!

thank god for the merge or we would have not have this kind of entertainment. Keep up the good work bro/sis

[Choco]

OK.

Now Aldy, you and Hugo repeat after me:

"I'm just trying to gank everyone off the server so that it will force NCSoft to merge us with Bartz, and I will have a further PVP challenge."

[Jesslynn]

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hahahahahahahahahahahaha

AKA

LOL @ Maya!

thank god for the merge or we would have not have this kind of entertainment. Keep up the good work bro/sis

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omg you are so annoying, please stop.

[Dafool]

you guys better be carefull what you say about maya the baby, he reported me on another forum because i made him feel uncomfortable there :(, he may need a hug.

[shortnsexy]

I will have David bring him a feelings sheet emediatly! (sp)