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FatRat420
08-18-2008, 06:43 PM
of the 2 what class is the "easiest money maker with not alot of time nor effort put into it" i need a alt to support my main :)

cheers!

Nanashi_Naomhan
08-18-2008, 09:02 PM
here we go again...
BH is the best with the least effort, sure it sucks but at lvl 20 you can at least make some cash spoiling crap and NPCing it
WS apparently makes the most once you get high lvl since all you need to do is spend a couple of billion on recs and after a few short months of afk craft shops you will be rolling in the dough

AshleyHunter
08-19-2008, 03:10 AM
Both classes really don't start making real good money till 55+ however a BH will make a lot more at first during the time your leveling up to 55. WS will make a lot more once it hit's 55 and get the right REC. mostly because you can buy all the D and C (except shots) stuff and don't need a WS but for top B and up.

Also at 55 on a WS you can craft SSA and BSPSA which are in demand ;)

Moneta
08-19-2008, 05:52 AM
BH all the way they have the crystallize skill since Gracia it was the only advantage the WS had when crafting shots.

Jacent
08-19-2008, 06:43 AM
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of the 2 what class is the "easiest money maker with [u]not alot of time nor effort[u] put into it"

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Artisan

- Roll a Dwarf
- Do the starter quests and class change
- Spoil the D-SS and D-SpS recipes(pretty **** easy if you know where to look)
- Stay at level 20 and use free ports to stock up on cheap Soul/Spirit Ore
- Buy some cheap robes(for MP pool)
- Pick a spot, crystalize cheap [censored], click away like crazy making shots and then sell them

If you have TONS of shots at the same price in the same convenient location everyday then people will buy them. Total time commitment would probably be about 2 hours. As others have or will tell you the money per shot really sucks and you'd be competing with the other 800 people who had the exact same idea and are probably will to spend more time at it.

The only way I know to consistently make good money is to expend more time and effort than others are willing to. The folks who got their Dwarves making C-SS make more than those legions of players that can only craft D-SS. So on and so forth.

Spoiling? I love my BH but I'll never be able to compete with the automated players, nor would I want to. Hell, I give my spoiled mats away to friends because they represent a drop in the bucket in regards to the amount that is actually needed and the money I would make from selling them doesn't seem worth my time. Everyone wants shots...only a portion of players actually craft and how many of those really want a handful of suede? Nah, the real goodies I get are enchant scrolls and other items of equal value. The 300a basic material drop doesn't excite me no matter how many I accumulate.

Again, in my mind the cost benefit analysis favors spending either a negligible amount of time to make a level 20 crafter or going whole hog and getting that bastard to a serious level so that you aren't one of 30 Dwarves in Giran offering the exact same service.

Just a thought.

Moneta
08-19-2008, 07:29 AM
Don't spoil mats spoil mat recipes ;)

Jacent
08-19-2008, 07:32 AM
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Don't spoil mats spoil mat recipes ;)

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I spoil enchant scrolls, shot recipes, and dyes. In the process of doing that I get basic mats also. Again, those mats aren't worth my time.

Mc_kzimir
08-20-2008, 08:58 PM
Atm to make profit with my dwarf i spoil mats ;)

Nanashi_Naomhan
08-20-2008, 09:51 PM
to make a profit on a dorf atm i farm fire stones
if i had been and archer i'd be farming divine stones for 200 mil a day but i guess i'll just have to be happy with 40 mil ><

Mc_kzimir
08-21-2008, 04:14 AM
I can't solo at iop even with my 75 PP , what is your gear nana ?

Nanashi_Naomhan
08-21-2008, 05:31 AM
+3 tallum and ms/focus
bunch of S grade jewels and some boss stuff

75 PP might struggle there but at high 70's it shouldn't be much of a problem

Mc_kzimir
08-21-2008, 05:33 AM
Gonna try to craft taeto then ~~

Nanashi_Naomhan
08-21-2008, 07:08 AM
throw on elemental and resist aqua and you'll make my overenchanted tateo look like a joke

Rohirrim
08-21-2008, 08:54 AM
with 76 WC buffs, maj heavy, maj jewerly and top b weapon I could solo at IoP without any problems on my WS (without the golem).

Nanashi_Naomhan
08-21-2008, 09:17 AM
bad move not using the golem imo
the amount of stones you get will make up for the cost and you always get more xp with it than without

Mc_kzimir
08-21-2008, 10:28 AM
I can solo , but i get pwned easy by a weird lighthing atk ~~

Nanashi_Naomhan
08-21-2008, 10:37 AM
keep away from the lightning guys
the attack doesn't really hurt me but that and the frontal cone thing they do really stings my poor WC :(

head towards parmasus and make a dash for the water and you should find some better mobs although they are a few lvls higher

shortnsexy
08-22-2008, 11:48 AM
I put alot of time into my Meistro, but hey I like pain. Anyway it pays off pretty good. Current project is to get all the S grade armour recs into my book, so I basically live at Varka atm. I can sit on my butt during downtime and get anywhere from 5-20 mill in a night depending. Now that the S grade armour market is a little slower still around 5 mill so still good enough for me. This chron jelwery is the thing everyone wants the special jewlery or a chance to maby get a special item so the 40 crafter dwarves in Giran should be doing well for themselves atm.

Nanashi_Naomhan
08-22-2008, 09:54 PM
yo wolfie can you fill me in on what varka is like now?
patch notes say that ketra and varka has been improved for melee classes but from what i see ketra is exactly the same except the mobs seem to spam SS more which makes the place even harder

also you still making cash crafting? before the merge you were one of only a few crafters and now giran is jam packed full of em

shortnsexy
08-28-2008, 11:35 AM
Varka is full of sailors atm. but when i convince a few to share it is good xp and they are eaisier to kill. The animals there no longer agro and there evation seems to be lower as they are alot esier to hit. I can rack up 100 varka mains in a 2 hour play sesion using my gollom and a profit. This is in the General spot neer the noble port. pre patch I could keep only a small field clear, since the patch I can eaisly keep 2 fields clear.

S grade crafts are going for 1 mill each atm, but it is the tat jewlery at 200k a click that is the adena maker for me atm. In a single night I am getting b/t 2 and 6 mill. Not to shaby for sitting on my butt. I'll never see level 4 vitality mind you but i'll live lol.

Hope that helps :)

Nanashi_Naomhan
08-28-2008, 08:22 PM
haha
yeah looks like they screwed me over at ketra
i doubt i could pull 100 teeth in a day and i usually roll with a bd and WC