If so Aria really will end up a carebear RP server.

[AshleyHunter]

Ok I'm still looking for the bad part in this Quote?:D

[Spudnik]

i like it.

[jkoster]

Works for me!

[Rohirrim]

I hope NCSoft finaly turns Aria into an official RP/PvE server since it has been it unofficial for a looong loooong time.

As for Aria. I hope it turns into the way it was before the merge. Low price on everything, good exp spots taken by players and not by bots, free rooms in catas/necros, less drama and many many other good things.

[DrakkosIV]

I hope NCSoft finaly turns Aria into an official RP/PvE server since it has been it unofficial for a looong loooong time.

As for Aria. I hope it turns into the way it was before the merge. Low price on everything, good exp spots taken by players and not by bots, free rooms in catas/necros, less drama and many many other good things.

As I mentioned many times in the past--there were some great features on Lionna before the merge if you were a real player of the game.

There were "fewer" bots than many servers. The economy worked. The manor worked!!!!!--and real players could buy and turn in fruits!

It wasn't perfect and it wasn't PvP heaven--but it had a lot of positive things going for it.
~D~

[LuciusTheEternal]

I still buy and turn in seeds...gotta be on your game.

[DrakkosIV]

I still buy and turn in seeds...gotta be on your game.

Who said I wasn't?

It is still very much possible to manor on Aria. It was easier on Lionna before the merge.

[LuciusTheEternal]

I for one hope they dont make it "offical." I mean, whats the point? If someone starts this game looking for the RP aspect then I'm sure with half a brain cell they can find where they need to be.

As for being a PVE server lol. NC is not gonna make a server off limits to pvp, if thats what they wanted they would have done it when they launched the game, or when they merged servers. If you want just pve then stay clear of it. Dont hunt/raid or help any of the big boy clans and the others will for the most part leave you alone. Dont siege, as this is pvp. Dont take a fort or any of the CH you need to fight for.

There problems solved. You can leave your thanks here for me, or give me a pm. I would give you a name but atm I am playing a bunch of different alts so just shout in dion "Thanks Lucius, you are so smart I dont know what I would do with out you and your awsomness."

[AshleyHunter]

As for being a PVE server lol. NC is not gonna make a server off limits to pvp, if thats what they wanted they would have done it when they launched the game, or when they merged servers.

No one ask for a Off limits PVE server. were are you getting your Info?

are you smoking something? if you are the rules are clear.....puff puff pass

[Rohirrim]

I for one hope they dont make it "offical." I mean, whats the point? If someone starts this game looking for the RP aspect then I'm sure with half a brain cell they can find where they need to be.

As for being a PVE server lol. NC is not gonna make a server off limits to pvp, if thats what they wanted they would have done it when they launched the game, or when they merged servers. If you want just pve then stay clear of it. Dont hunt/raid or help any of the big boy clans and the others will for the most part leave you alone. Dont siege, as this is pvp. Dont take a fort or any of the CH you need to fight for.

There problems solved. You can leave your thanks here for me, or give me a pm. I would give you a name but atm I am playing a bunch of different alts so just shout in dion "Thanks Lucius, you are so smart I dont know what I would do with out you and your awsomness."


I'm in a PvE clan.

We do raids (non-epics), we sign up for forts that NPC's hold (hitting NPC's is PvE last time I checked), we used to sign up for Hot Springs CH (hitting chests is PvE if I'm not mistaken).

We sometimes do sieges if the ones attatcking/deffending the castle can leave the drama on the siege field and not war us after the siege.

We sometimes do epic raids if we are invited by some other clan.

We party with everyone on the server, even with the most PvP oriented clans but we make it clear to them that we won't assist them in PvP in any way.

We have been around for over 4 years without a single two-way war (others has wared us, speialy farmer clans that we train now and then to get a spot to hunt on) and we will still exist in 10 years.

Reason I stay in a clan like that:
It's one of the very few legit clans on the server, botters gets kicked without a 2nd chance and no way to return to te clan. If they bot afk and have auto rez or run back to location on we train them over and over again and when the death penalty is high enough they just die by them self trying to kill mobs.


edit:
btw I never said to turn Aria into a pure PvE server, but many clans on Aria are focusing mainly on PvE and PvP only when they have to.

and even IF they turned Aria into a pure PvE server, you would still have sieges, fortress sieges, arena, olympiad, duels and territorial wars (comming in CT 2.3) so there would still be alot of PvP content left.

[Megatron]

Just keep in mind that botters are the biggest carebears you'll ever know.. they untag to XP in peace... from siege to siege. ;)

[LuciusTheEternal]

I hope NCSoft finaly turns Aria into an official RP/PvE server since it has been it unofficial for a looong loooong time.

As for Aria. I hope it turns into the way it was before the merge. Low price on everything, good exp spots taken by players and not by bots, free rooms in catas/necros, less drama and many many other good things.

I was going off the first sentence right here, what else would the "official" pve server be if not off limits to change it from all the other servers?

While a pve clan can do all those things if they want to really stay nuetral they need to avoid anything that clan lead to pvp.

As for epic raids if you want to stay nuetral thats a big no-no. Maybe things have changed since last I played, but I know LP as a clan would not like nuetral clan A showing up to do bauim/anth with the bad guys. And I know it works the other way around too. I was in a little clan that did a few raids with Inv and because of it we were made targets.

[Rohirrim]

I was going off the first sentence right here, what else would the "official" pve server be if not off limits to change it from all the other servers?

While a pve clan can do all those things if they want to really stay nuetral they need to avoid anything that clan lead to pvp.

As for epic raids if you want to stay nuetral thats a big no-no. Maybe things have changed since last I played, but I know LP as a clan would not like nuetral clan A showing up to do bauim/anth with the bad guys. And I know it works the other way around too. I was in a little clan that did a few raids with Inv and because of it we were made targets.


we have partied with WO, LP and BW several times and not gotten into any problems even when the oposing clan showed up and ganked the party we where in they usualy left us alone and let us rez the dead after they left the area.

I have been at Antharas 2 times and both times few from LP was just standing there watching us and didn't interfiere, but they didn't allow theyr enemies to join us on the raid and that is ok by me.

we have been a target by few of the major PvP clans and theyr alt clans, but after ignoring them for a few days/weeks they left us alone again and most of the clans knows that by now so we rarely have any problems with them...altough there are 2-3 from few clans that PK us now and then, but it only happens once or twice a month.

[DrakkosIV]

While a pve clan can do all those things if they want to really stay nuetral they need to avoid anything that clan lead to pvp.

As for epic raids if you want to stay nuetral thats a big no-no. Maybe things have changed since last I played, but I know LP as a clan would not like nuetral clan A showing up to do bauim/anth with the bad guys. And I know it works the other way around too. I was in a little clan that did a few raids with Inv and because of it we were made targets.

Most of us in so-called "neutral clans" understand that there is really no such thing as truly neutral.
You don't have to play this game very long to find out that anyone can war you or run up and kill you for any reason at all (or for no reason at all).

Neutrality (from Lionna) was always an often-argued term since no one really had one, single definition for it.
For a long time it meant "not aligned with Chaos or Invincible" (and then whatever "big 2" came along after).

We are a neutral, RP clan and we do many of the things that other clans do. We have also been tagged by as many as 3 other clans for wars at once.
Because in this game, you could run onto a siege field to die for fame points and have some idiot declare war on your clan.

Neutral is widely defined. Maintaining the neutral stance is not always up to the neutral clan.
Just having a member hunt somewhere can earn you a war tag from a clan you can't compete with!

In general I think of "neutral" as being defined as "Not intending to initiate PvP actions with other clans or to take sides in conflicts". Others will define it differently.
However it's defined, if you work to stay 'neutral' you learn that others can and will choose to make you a target anyway.

[LuciusTheEternal]

I know its hard to stay nuetral, as I said, or maybe I didnt I have been on both sides of the coin. I remember LP warring clans that helped the bad guys in raids. And while I am not 100% sure we warred clans over it Im sure people have been pked for rezing dead bad guys that they were grouped with. I hope thats clear...so if you are hunting with say WO and LP comes to kill them, you /sit and do nothing during the pvp. After its done you rez. Im pretty sure such actions have resulted in death by pk, if not war.

Dont take my post as bashing though, that is not what I am trying to do, merely give you my views on the subject. Like you and I both have said, it is hard to really be nuetral. I dont know about other servers but Lionna has aways had a very fuzzy line, most of the time being crossed without you knowing about it at all!

My ideas were simply ways one can avoid becoming a target. It limits some of the things you can do, but in the end that is what you are trying to do anyway...limit the pvp aspect of the game.

If they did change the server to a "closed" pvp server (ala pvp only at sieges/forts/etc) then I would seriously hope that NCsoft gave the option for a free trasfer to another server.

[BlakWulf]

Lucius, after the merge with Kain, targeting neutrals for war or pk that partied with enemies has become much less common. It's not nearly as hardcore as Lionna used to be where we held huge grudges against anyone who partied with enemies. As it is now, I'll take a note of what clans and toons are partied with enemies and kill them if flagged in pvp, but it's up the individual player to pursue it and most don't. However we do send a lot of one-way wars to suspected enemy alt clans or neutral enemy assisters, but it is usually just a reminder to watch your back when you see the one fist over their heads. And maybe if really bored pk them.