WC pvp

[crusty]

Hey,

I am lvl 78 doom crier and till now have not thought a lot about pvp: grind grind grind...
I was curious how can I boost my damage in pvp.
I have AM acumen fire and MA robe.

Tried draining the jesus out of the opponent, but it seems like I can't even kill a bishop(i ran faster out of MP, than he lost HP).

I am interested in 1v1 and mass pvp. So far I just try to stay alive and occasionally stun. Can I do more?

[FidgitTheClown]

there was a thread about overlords and pvp, the principal is pretty much the same.

steal essence is nolonger a good way to pvp.
the mana cost is too much for the damage... compared to nukers.
over enchanting it for damage doesn't change it that much...
also since it doesn't have an elemental attribute, no bonuses...
but i actually consider that to be beneficial as it becomes harder to resist.
meanwhile the melee damage also isn't strong compared to DDs.

a good start might be to use burning chop, which is new...
but otherwise i think chaining stun is a better option.
too bad we can't enchant hammer crush.

i play a dominator myself, so there are some significant differences in strategy, but i think warcryers are more straightforward with it.
not having to worry about which seals to use n junk.

try watching some oly battles and seeing the tactics used therein.
i believe older threads involving pvp with orc mystics involved getting multiple mage weapons with augments including elemental nukes,
then ++ing the elemental attribute of the nuke.


general consensus though is that 1v1 is just not friendly for orc mystics.
maybe a great wolf can help out your damage output... but rez can be annoying.
... i was really hoping for lessor orc summons for overlords though...

[crusty]

Well I did watch pvp between WCs in oly.
They were using drac bow and armor which seemed mighty strange at that time.

So you suggest maybe getting a fighter blunt since I won't be draining much?
What about Tats: can I take the hit from -8 STR/+4 CON +4 DEX ?

I wanted dex for run speed since chasing down anyone is not a trivial task...

[AndreasK]

If you define PvP by "doing significant damage in order to kill someone", WC falls far from the description. Almost all classes will kill you without effort (CP/QHP pots make sure of that). Maybe some other soloing buffer can die from you but the rest of the classes will have no problem killing you 1 vs 1. WC is a support class anyway, so you shouldn't be surprised.
On party vs party PvP you can help kill or disable some opponents, but you are not going to be the key damaging factor.

Personally, I don't mind that I can't kill anyone. I do mind though that our disabling skills are so gimp. Only dreaming spirit can be skill enchanted and it is resisted easilly through passives, toggles, boss jewels and buffs (our natural low INT only makes things worse). I wish NC would remember us in a next update.

[crusty]

If you define PvP by "doing significant damage in order to kill someone", WC falls far from the description. Almost all classes will kill you without effort (CP/QHP pots make sure of that). Maybe some other soloing buffer can die from you but the rest of the classes will have no problem killing you 1 vs 1. WC is a support class anyway, so you shouldn't be surprised.
On party vs party PvP you can help kill or disable some opponents, but you are not going to be the key damaging factor.

Personally, I don't mind that I can't kill anyone. I do mind though that our disabling skills are so gimp. Only dreaming spirit can be skill enchanted and it is resisted easilly through passives, toggles, boss jewels and buffs (our natural low INT only makes things worse). I wish NC would remember us in a next update.

That is exactly my target: some soloing buffer :D
So far they kick my ***. What can be done?
Also some guy suggested that I use AS with pvp enchantment cause that way I also get to cancel people. Wrth the investement?

[AndreasK]

That is exactly my target: some soloing buffer :D
So far they kick my ***. What can be done?
Also some guy suggested that I use AS with pvp enchantment cause that way I also get to cancel people. Wrth the investement?

First of all PvP requires multiple weapons. I assume you can afford at least 2 weapons. Second, I assume we are talking for relative proximity in buffs, levels and gear.

Recently pvp damage of Inquisitor stace skills has been reduced (I think it went down to 60% of what it was). That means that steal essence can do more damage than their skill, but costs more MP. In general, against an SE/EE/BP you have more CON and STR but much less INT (that means that you should carry much more CP pots and output more physical damage, but you magical attacks hit for less and land harder). The best tactic is to get a bow, turn on soul cry and start shooting. You can do a lot of damage that way to a robe user. Occasionaly you can switch to mage weapon, use steal essence (to gain back some HP) and back to bow. If you run out of mana, try to land sleep and go near to melee them. Don't waste mana to land freezing flame (or any other worthless skill). Fear is good if it lands (forget it in high levels). Usually at every PvP is who lands what first. If you play smart, opponent will run out of CP pots before you do. If you have enough mana at that point you can litteraly "steal his essence" :)