can Orc Tyrants fight with dual swords instead of fist weapons?

[BMasters87]

Yeahh the topic asked the question, just wondering if I can use swords instead of fists weapons with an Orc Tyrant/Grand...

[Edge]

You can fight with any weapon but you only get bonus according to your passive skills.

Tyrants don't have passive for dual swords.

[Mordukai]

only thing you would be able to use with dual swords instead of fists would be fist fury. wich all in all makes a tyrant pointless if you cant use your totems.

[Eamonn]

Why bother with duals on a Tyrant just make a Gladi. If anything use a pole on a tyrant when your in a pole party so your more helpful than just attacking singles.

[Judas]

you can use tyrant skills so long as you've got the fist weapons equiped.... once you enable a skill switch to another weapon and the skill remains on... bit of a pain to switch back and forth when you need to refresh the skills though.

[AshleyHunter]

Yeahh the topic asked the question, just wondering if I can use swords instead of fists weapons with an Orc Tyrant/Grand...

Yes you can. Just don't.....even a pair of top B fists are better on a level 61 Tryant then a pair of A Grade Duals.


That's like giving a Nerco a Soul Bow and Tell him go PVP with it....:rolleyes:

[Smittie]

Why bother with duals on a Tyrant just make a Gladi. If anything use a pole on a tyrant when your in a pole party so your more helpful than just attacking singles.

So just stick a set of Dual Swords on your Tyrant with heavy armor and you have a duelist Orc. If you stick light armor on a Gladiator every forum troll and in game player will tell you your an idiot. Go heavy on the Tyrant since it's what your looking for.

Oh rly.

[Eamonn]

Oh rly.

Yep a pole with fists of fury on works great on a Tyrant. I know I've already done it once and fist of fury also makes you shoot a bow faster and swing duals faster. Your an S grader with a S grade Tyrant so why don't you already know that?

[Smittie]

Yep a pole with fists of fury on works great on a Tyrant. I know I've already done it once and fist of fury also makes you shoot a bow faster and swing duals faster. Your an S grader with a S grade Tyrant so why don't you already know that?

Try reading the entire post next time. The point of the 2 quotes flew right over your head. I could care less what you did on your tyrant lol.

FYI, I have a 76 duelist, that I have subbed into a so far 64 tyrant. But gimme a month or so, and that tyrant will be S-grade too. I guess you dont really know me though.

You are most likely clueless about what I do or dont know about classes in L2.

[Eamonn]

Try reading the entire post next time. The point of the 2 quotes flew right over your head. I could care less what you did on your tyrant lol.

FYI, I have a 76 duelist, that I have subbed into a so far 64 tyrant. But gimme a month or so, and that tyrant will be S-grade too. I guess you dont really know me though.

You are most likely clueless about what I do or dont know about classes in L2.

Big deal so you don't have a pure Tyrant just a wannabee , and for your information your not in my clan so therefore your a non factor for me caring what you say or do on these forums. Go brag to someone else how many S85's you have i could care less becuase I play differently where lvls don't mean anything.

[Smittie]

Big deal so you don't have a pure Tyrant just a wannabee , and for your information your not in my clan so therefore your a non factor for me caring what you say or do on these forums. Go brag to someone else how many S85's you have i could care less becuase I play differently where lvls don't mean anything.

My subbed tyrant can do anything a regular tyrant can, what makes you think its a "wannabe tyrant"?

I dont have a single lvl 85 toon, where do you get your info?

I play this game to have fun and hang out with my clannies on vent. I could care less about lvls, those are just a side-effect of playing.

[Eamonn]

My subbed tyrant can do anything a regular tyrant can, what makes you think its a "wannabe tyrant"?

I dont have a single lvl 85 toon, where do you get your info?

I play this game to have fun and hang out with my clannies on vent. I could care less about lvls, those are just a side-effect of playing.

Then why you act like your an S85 then and then act like I should care about having an S grade? If i seriousely wanted one i'd stop fiddling arround with D grade toons and stay on 1 of my 2 highest till it's S grade. With constantly having a problem to get game time cards when i started this game ,i have decided why bother having an S grader. So I logg in and play and run my mouth and play my toons untraditionally.

A human as a Tyrant is not a pure Tyrant so it's a wannabe. Now if you had a straight Tyrant that you had lvled from lvl 1 up then It's a true Tyrant. Yes I know it's still a pure Tyrant in the skill set but it's outside is not a Tyrant. So with the outside not a tyrant it's a wannabee. I hope that clears that mess up.

[Smittie]

Awww, you made my duelist/tyrant sad now ><.

If it helps, I lvled up another Tyrant from lvl 1 to 54, to use in lowbie raids. They both had same stats and did equal dmg...

[Eamonn]

Sorry not my fault NCSOFT stuck that lvl penalty on subs. But yes a Tyrant can fight with fists if you get him up to where you can subclass Glad or BD but with the race stats of that subclass. You don't get the BD dance though on your Orc from what i've seen in game which doesn't make any sense. They claim you get the subclasses race stats with the sub so why they don't get a BD dance is beyond me since that is also 1 of those race stats I thought.

[Smittie]

Sorry not my fault NCSOFT stuck that lvl penalty on subs. But yes a Tyrant can fight with fists if you get him up to where you can subclass Glad or BD but with the race stats of that subclass. You don't get the BD dance though on your Orc from what i've seen in game which doesn't make any sense. They claim you get the subclasses race stats with the sub so why they don't get a BD dance is beyond me since that is also 1 of those race stats I thought.

Who exactly are you directing this farce of odd info too? Im not even sure what you are trying to say to be honest...

[Eamonn]

Me either so that's umm what # again of meaningless posts? I've so lost count it's gotta be over a million.

[Smittie]

Maybe you should read the post I quoted again, and try to figure out what you were trying to say. Because its full of fail atm.

[Eamonn]

Isn't full of fail normal for me though? Are you saying you want me to scare everyone by how intelligent i actually am? I thought we wanted New Players? So why do you want me to scare them away? They like laughing at me. It helps thier bad days go smoother.

I was probably trying to state that , if a Tyrant subclasses a Blade dancer he get's the DE race stats. At least that is what i've been told. But what I have actually seen in game on Orc Mages subclassed Sword Singers and Blade Dancers is that they use Orc dances.

Basically in a peanut shell ,it is odd to me that they don't get the Sword Singer or Blade Dancer dances . After i was told they get the race stats of those classes. Shouldn't everything be the exact same on the subclass as it would be for a toon that has that as it's main.

Is this a bit more clearer? Sorry musta been more tired than normal ,so the rambling was way worse than normal.

[Smittie]

Wow, you really need to get a toon up to subclass to see what its all about.

And actually, the female human mystic had both dances and songs animation changed to mimic the classes.