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Megatron
01-04-2010, 10:51 PM
Note.. this is not a QQ post.. just something I tried out..

Background..

2 Accounts..

79 STS
78 SD

XP party with STS Pulling in PI(SE and PP buffs)

I make about 0.05-0.07 per buff round with vit 0.. on STS

XP party with SD pulling in DoE (DC Buffs.. no CoV)

I make about 0.10-0.12 per Buff round with vit 0... on STS

In all my L2 life, Nukers used to pull "bards" and other non-DD classes.. are things changing.. or did NC flop hard on XP per mob.. in PI ?
True that in DoE.. we get those "debuffs", that help a lot.. but even so, the Damage Per Second a SD does.. is nowhere near the damage a nuker does...

Just food for thought..

No need to guess.. where I will be leveling my SD and my STS, right?

BigHalvie
01-05-2010, 10:16 AM
i hate people that box dancers/singers :)

bel
01-05-2010, 12:17 PM
too much abbreviations, can't understand..

Megatron
01-05-2010, 12:27 PM
i hate people that box dancers/singers :)

Its not a box.. that's just the most important of my mains.. :P

Spudnik
01-05-2010, 05:43 PM
too much abbreviations, can't understand..

essentially he is saying he used a melee to pull the mobs for a nuker to AOE in region X, compared with no pulling for that same nuker on region Y

although it may just be me, but i am not familiar with DoE... what region is that?

if this area isnt on Primeval isle, then we arent drawing comparable conclusions....

BordrX
01-05-2010, 05:57 PM
Den Of Evil ^

Megatron
01-05-2010, 05:59 PM
essentially he is saying he used a melee to pull the mobs for a nuker to AOE in region X, compared with no pulling for that same nuker on region Y

although it may just be me, but i am not familiar with DoE... what region is that?

if this area isnt on Primeval isle, then we arent drawing comparable conclusions....

Melee didn't pull anything for a Nuker to AOE.

Case 1:

SD stays on Auto Follow and STS does the killing in Primeval Island.

Case 2:

STS sits on floor.. in the center of a Den.. while SD kills... around the Den.

Smittie
01-05-2010, 06:01 PM
Melee didn't pull anything for a Nuker to AOE.

Case 1:

SD stays on Auto Follow and STS does the killing in Primeval Island.

Case 2:

STS sits on floor.. in the center of a Den.. while SD kills... around the Den.

That was fairly easy to understand from original post. What made u have to explain it?

*Looks up*

Oh those 2, nvm...

Spudnik
01-05-2010, 07:57 PM
That was fairly easy to understand from original post. What made u have to explain it?

*Looks up*

Oh those 2, nvm...

having now understood that DoE means Den of Evil i can somewhat understand, however i think its still not a fair comparison.

on PI, you have PP and SE, in DoE you have DC. 3ppl vs 4 ppl this would surely account for the exp differential?

olgen
01-05-2010, 08:11 PM
you must be doing something wrong there, while duo I get 0.13 per buff each, and thats without my offparty SD and I pick all drops with a nuker, which takes a alot of time.

you don't really have to pull anything, just go out there and nuke nuke nuke. when there are 5+ mobs, mass nuke. avoid tyranosauruses. thats about it. easy enough...

I did not try DoE though as my SD is 76 so he probably wont be able to pull it off..

Ok I admit this is possible with following healer so you might have to be more careful without one. SD is so great in DoE because of the insane crit rate buffs so he crits half of the time.

ShellShock08
01-05-2010, 08:11 PM
but the drops on PI now are insane

Megatron
01-05-2010, 11:43 PM
you must be doing something wrong there, while duo I get 0.13 per buff each, and thats without my offparty SD and I pick all drops with a nuker, which takes a alot of time.

you don't really have to pull anything, just go out there and nuke nuke nuke. when there are 5+ mobs, mass nuke. avoid tyranosauruses. thats about it. easy enough...

I did not try DoE though as my SD is 76 so he probably wont be able to pull it off..

Ok I admit this is possible with following healer so you might have to be more careful without one. SD is so great in DoE because of the insane crit rate buffs so he crits half of the time.

Prob with PI on Teon.. is that bots KS you.. so.. 30-50% of my mobs are shared with bots... and the STS just can't be faster. Today I was able to make .15.. but only once.

SD at 76 can do it... but 150 holy duals are a must.. and they work like a charm.. just put everything on crit (500) and hack away. I crit 80% of the time.. 5 dances up. Fury, Fire, Warrior, VR, Light(Holy duals.. ^^).

Spud: Buffers are staying OOP. Only members in party are SD and STS.

Nanashi_Naomhan
01-06-2010, 01:52 AM
unless you are 89ish then you only crit 50% of the time :P

olgen
01-06-2010, 01:58 AM
are you talking about PI field or PI forest? because I thought bots wouldn't survive in Forest due to tyranosauruses... forest has much more exp than the field.

Jyrki
01-06-2010, 02:43 AM
Never-mind!