I'm Desperate....

[MrsDestinyV]

I've got a SE lvl44(refer to signature below). I'm low on money and I want you to tell me a place to exp this lil SE.
I'm Desperate. I've got a Common weap and Divine set.
LF Responses please :(

[vikobe]

Do some quest to get pets, for exemple kokaburra or wolf

don't forget to take the repetable quest

But the most important it is the quests to get the wolf or kokaburra :)

[Smittie]

Do some quest to get pets, for exemple kokaburra or wolf

don't forget to take the repetable quest

But the most important it is the quests to get the wolf or kokaburra :)

She is low on money, how do you expect her to have the ability to care for a wolf or kookaburra then?

My tip: If you cannot find party, go nuke green mobs in inquisitor, try to find ones where you dont necessarily need to use shots.

[Archaya]

Yea... been in your situation before. To be honest, if you don't have a lot of parties do what Smittie said. I can't tell you how long I leveled without using shots. It sucks, but sometimes you've got to do it just to get your head out of the water.

Secondly... From what I noticed myself is that in C grade its going to cost you more then you'll make leveling with Inquisitor w/ shots. It sucks, but its what I found. I'd just keep doing Kamas, make sure the party is random drops. Also try to get yourself a mystery box for the cubics, and hope to get lucky.

The life of a solo SE is a bear imho until you can go to FoTD around 6x. Then you can make some pretty decent adena. You'll just have to kind of stick through the hard times of getting there :x

[vikobe]

She is low on money, how do you expect her to have the ability to care for a wolf or kookaburra then?

My tip: If you cannot find party, go nuke green mobs in inquisitor, try to find ones where you dont necessarily need to use shots.

food is no expansive and i can ask you another stupid question if she is so poor how she can buy weapon and armor ?? :)

and so she is se, does she need to get a weapon or d robe to buff and heal her wolf ?? :)

[Smittie]

food is no expansive and i can ask you another stupid question if she is so poor how she can buy weapon and armor ?? :)

and so she is se, does she need to get a weapon or d robe to buff and heal her wolf ?? :)

She has a common wep and a divine robe set, as stated in the OP.

The wolf wont do her any good until its atleast 55, and then only if she can afford gear. Which brings us back to the point where she said she was poor.

The wolf isnt gonna kill anything for her in the near future, so why even give that advice.

She needs to party party party, to make some money, or go kill stuff without any cost (aka no shots).

Telling her to get a wolf is like telling the homeless guy everything is gonna be fine if he can only figure out how to play the stock exchange, with his non-existant cash....

[vikobe]

well when i subbed my bishop at level 40 i used my mini dinosaur to help me to leveled, while i healed him he was my dd, so she is se is no so hard for her to use wolf with her buff and heal, and if you complaint than wolf is useless for her i dont think your strategy is better in inquisitor mode against green mobs without shots, i had did what you suggest in the past and i die often and dont get so much money when i was dark wizard

and dont tell me she cant buy food for her wolf, food is no expensive, in 1 h of farm she can get enough money and mat to buy 100 food for her wolf

and even if she go in inquisitor the kokaburra can be big help for her :)

and remember miss smittie she dont need to pay for teleportation, so she dont lost so much money to go where she want :)

[Thalenduros]

Forest of mirrors... ghosts are undead and thus weak to holy. Very easy at 44 and indeed can be killed before then. They give decent XP due to their abilites (high evasion) but that does little good against your nukes. (lvl35 undead nukes or inquisitor)
They drop adena and herbs more often than not and shouldn't break the bank.

Given how easy they are you can indeed kill them without shots, but you will have downtime if herb drops are not favorable.

Avoid attacking the mirrors (they are not undead, nor weak to holy) until you are a little stronger.

[Smittie]

well when i subbed my bishop at level 40 i used my mini dinosaur to help me to leveled, while i healed him he was my dd, so she is se is no so hard for her to use wolf with her buff and heal, and if you complaint than wolf is useless for her i dont think your strategy is better in inquisitor mode against green mobs without shots, i had did what you suggest in the past and i die often and dont get so much money when i was dark wizard

and dont tell me she cant buy food for her wolf, food is no expensive, in 1 h of farm she can get enough money and mat to buy 100 food for her wolf

and even if she go in inquisitor the kokaburra can be big help for her :)

and remember miss smittie she dont need to pay for teleportation, so she dont lost so much money to go where she want :)

Ok, a new wolf dont kill stuff at all, had u actually lvled one you would know this. It needs 55 before it is anything but a 1-3 shot for mobs. Its just not doable prior to wolf being 55, and the road to 55 wolf for her is very long, since she is short on cash as well. Not to mention, she will not be able to buy proper equipment for it any time soon, since that costs millions.

She most likely can buy all the food the wolf needs, but it wont do anything for her, since a wolf is useless to her and will only take her exp.

As for kookaburra, yes, that one will help her, and will even help when she inquisitor nukes once its 55.

As for ports, the OP said she is 44, which means she has inquisitor already, but most importantly, she is high enough to pay for ports as well.

Why dont you rethink the whole "giving advice" thing and actually go learn some basics about the game?

[vikobe]

Well miss smittie you and your big clan dont need pets because you have your big clans to leeched to get money and xp :)

But for a solo se pet is very usefull since you have box and dont take a real se to play with you

so if you are unable to help random se or random pp, the pets are there to help them

If she cant buy proper equipment do you really think she can buy proper equipment for her and go nuke your green mobs ??

[Archaya]

Well miss smittie you and your big clan dont need pets because you have your big clans to leeched to get money and xp :)

But for a solo se pet is very usefull since you have box and dont take a real se to play with you

so if you are unable to help random se or random pp, the pets are there to help them

If she cant buy proper equipment do you really think she can buy proper equipment for her and go nuke your green mobs ??

You should seriously stop giving advice.

Pets cost a lot of adena, especially at a low level. If she's broke as it is, buying a pet, paying for food/gear... They get expensive fast. You playing a subclass is tons different then having a new character. Especially without a clan or good friendslist.

[vikobe]

You should seriously stop giving advice.

Pets cost a lot of adena, especially at a low level. If she's broke as it is, buying a pet, paying for food/gear... They get expensive fast. You playing a subclass is tons different then having a new character. Especially without a clan or good friendslist.

Do you know you can get pet from quest :confused:

Do you really think i have started my toon with 1 billion ??, i know the pain to be alone without clan with new character and be fored to leveling without shot with no grade gear until level 48, so you are no in position to say You playing a subclass is tons different then having a new character

I didnt knew a super over power shilen saint as you cant buy some food for your poor pet with a low gear, maybe than if you dont spend all your money for your s equipment, epic jewel and bsss you will have enough money to buy some food for your kokaburra or wolf

I have a pet it is no so expansive, but so i imagine you will help her to get money and help her to levelling if she play in same server than you, so do you will invite her in your clan to help her or you will let her play alone??, if she play alone her best friend it is her pet

ps this post is for smittie too, especially the last paragraph

[faiien]

she needs to make a destroyer or a dwarf alt, and take it to catacombs to farm ancient adena. common gear + newbie buffs will do just fine at lower levels for the fighter.

when you started making alittle bit of money, go back on SE and closely study the manor system, and start using it.

when you make the dwarf, crystalise all the D grade drops you will get from kamaloka, and craft some D shots, and sell them in Dion, for extra cash

ill be honest, making money on a low level se is almost impossible, especially for a brand new player

ohh and! join a decent clan. the will most likely help you

by the way, what server are you on?

[Archaya]

Do you know you can get pet from quest :confused:

Do you really think i have started my toon with 1 billion ??, i know the pain to be alone without clan with new character and be fored to leveling without shot with no grade gear until level 48, so you are no in position to say You playing a subclass is tons different then having a new character

I didnt knew a super over power shilen saint as you cant buy some food for your poor pet with a low gear, maybe than if you dont spend all your money for your s equipment, epic jewel and bsss you will have enough money to buy some food for your kokaburra or wolf

I have a pet it is no so expansive, but so i imagine you will help her to get money and help her to levelling if she play in same server than you, so do you will invite her in your clan to help her or you will let her play alone??, if she play alone her best friend it is her pet

ps this post is for smittie too, especially the last paragraph

Ok, so a pet from a quest. The only one that doesn't cost adena is the wolf one. All the others require you to buy a item to get the pet. Secondly the pet you get will be either level 15, or 25. So since she is 44 now, that pet will be drastically useless to her.

Also, I never said I was super over powered with BSSS and 5/5 epic jewels, i'm just saying that you can't expect a new player to get a pet, buy it food, buy it gear, level the pet, make sure it doesn't die.... And yes, me at 76+ has enough adena to pay for my kookabura food. However, when I was a 44 SE I didn't. Also, if you haven't played a support toon from scratch with no help, then I think its you that has no idea how hard it is without a clan or friends to help you.

Also yes, I would help him/her if they are in my server. Its not that hard to give someone a clan, and a party or two to actually help them get going.

[Theegs]

Listen to Smittie and Thal. Sound advice. What server are you on?

[vikobe]

Ok, so a pet from a quest. The only one that doesn't cost adena is the wolf one. All the others require you to buy a item to get the pet. Secondly the pet you get will be either level 15, or 25. So since she is 44 now, that pet will be drastically useless to her.

Also, I never said I was super over powered with BSSS and 5/5 epic jewels, i'm just saying that you can't expect a new player to get a pet, buy it food, buy it gear, level the pet, make sure it doesn't die.... And yes, me at 76+ has enough adena to pay for my kookabura food. However, when I was a 44 SE I didn't. Also, if you haven't played a support toon from scratch with no help, then I think its you that has no idea how hard it is without a clan or friends to help you.

Also yes, I would help him/her if they are in my server. Its not that hard to give someone a clan, and a party or two to actually help them get going.

Good for you i hope miss smittie help her if she play in phoenix and don't call his se box or he will be hypocrit with his find friend

I know the pain to be alone without clan and friends with new toons, i have been forced to use shadow weapon or no grade weapon without shoot with no grade gear, so don't worry i know her pain

I don't remember i must buy items to get my mini dinosaur, the big dragon near spore sea only ask me to care his egg

And i don't remember i must pay for items to get my tiger

Off course have a pet is no guarantee you don't die or your pet don't die, but i ask you, are you never dying when you raised your toon 1 to 76 ??

If you don't have money for food i doubt you have money to buy at least d grade common

When i got my mini dinosaur i was level 48 and my mini was level 35, in some weeks he up to level 55 and me i was level 59, so don't worry when she will get level 60 her pet will be 55, when she will pass to 45 i am sure her pet level 15 will get 10 levels

And so if she follow the advice of faiien, she can spare her pet with her dwarf or destroyer to level it :)

It is no so hard to raise a pet to level 44 :)

[faiien]

about pets.....

the baby pets (the chicken, cougar and buffalo) are very useless untill level 55, and to complete the quest you need to give the NPC a quest item worth 500k adena.

yes

and for SE, the only good pets are Koukabourra and wolf, the dragon is not a usefull pet at all. thats the pet i made when i 1st started and its now gathering dust, replaced by a great wolf.

it doesn't do allot of damage, and cannot take 3 hits. and the gear is still expensive, for absolutly nothing

for now, forget the pet, and use a newbie dwarf to "get your head out of the water", sell seal stones, ancient adena, D and C shots

by selling seal stones, you will make some money fast.

now, once you have about 1 million adena (not allot, with a catacomb farmer it will go fast) you should do a quest for a pet.

a wolf or a koukabourra

take it with you, on whatever toon you are playing (swap between toons when changing to alt) and level it. food doesn't cost allot till level 55, and the seal stones will easily pay for it. DONT buy any pet gear, just let it leech you.

do not bother buying B grade at level 52, you can easily make it on C grade and will save money.

when the pet reaches level 55, you should be around level 60 on your main, thats when you SELL it, and make 50 mill adena. that + what you saved up before should help you get A grade gear, at least armor.

[Smittie]

Good for you i hope miss smittie help her if she play in phoenix and don't call his se box or he will be hypocrit with his find friend

I know the pain to be alone without clan and friends with new toons, i have been forced to use shadow weapon or no grade weapon without shoot with no grade gear, so don't worry i know her pain

I don't remember i must buy items to get my mini dinosaur, the big dragon near spore sea only ask me to care his egg

And i don't remember i must pay for items to get my tiger

Off course have a pet is no guarantee you don't die or your pet don't die, but i ask you, are you never dying when you raised your toon 1 to 76 ??

If you don't have money for food i doubt you have money to buy at least d grade common

When i got my mini dinosaur i was level 48 and my mini was level 35, in some weeks he up to level 55 and me i was level 59, so don't worry when she will get level 60 her pet will be 55, when she will pass to 45 i am sure her pet level 15 will get 10 levels

And so if she follow the advice of faiien, she can spare her pet with her dwarf or destroyer to level it :)

It is no so hard to raise a pet to level 44 :)

You seriously need to start reading before typing, miss vikobe.

If I party someone or not is up to me, what I do with my time. That doesnt mean Im a hypocrite if I dont. But I am still allowed to give advice.

A wolf is useless to her, she will be unable to get the gear for it that makes it even kill 1 mob.

She is asking advice for what to do on her SE, not a dwarf or destroyer. She most likely wants her SE to be able to do it on her own. On her own, she cant lvl a pet, nor afford gear...

As for pain, I lvled a dwarf back in prelude, you will never know as much pain as me lol :D

As for gear for strider, are you saying your hatchling killed mobs FOR you without any gear whatsoever? And survived?

My advice to miss Vikobe. Go out and get a wolf, gear it up with TOP wolf gear (its not that expencive, its not great wolf gear). Then have it kill mobs for you at lvl 15.

Then come back and tell us how THAT went.

[MrsDestinyV]

Thank you all guys for your advice. :)
I mentioned "low on money" in my first post to indicate that I need someone to suggest a place with easy mobs to kill without having to hit one thousand times in order to be killed, thus spend a lot of money on BSSC.

I already have a kookabura, but it's still low on lvl (26, shame that I didn't care to exp it more with my main) :(
And yeap, I already have a spoiler and now I'm on my way to create a crafter also,but I have stuck in the quest Jumble,Tumble,Diamond Fuss...something like that, as I have the recs for BSSD and SSD already got with the spoiler.

+1 to Thalendorus post. I wanted a place to exp, but you also gave me some ideas so thank you a lot.

And, I'm playing in Teon if someone cares to invite a SE in his/her clan.

PS: I suppose that both Kookabura and Tiger demanded some money in order to "start" the quest (the NPC insisted on giving him a weapon worth around 500k)

[Ryne]

I've got a SE lvl44(refer to signature below). I'm low on money and I want you to tell me a place to exp this lil SE.
I'm Desperate. I've got a Common weap and Divine set.
LF Responses please :(

find someone to aoe with. seriously. C grade sucks you will be hard pressed to kill on your own with any sort of efficientcy. The undead area's are not herb areas, and without invo you run out of mp fast. Even in herb areas you run out of mp fast. The best way to get out of c grade fast is to find someone, anyone to duo with. The cheapest being someone who aoe's or a nuker since you won't need to use shots on the recharges.

The only things that can help you solo better are:

- walk, it helps mp regen.
- make your own shots, its way cheaper than buying them
- to balance mp & cost I'd use one cast with shots per mob and finish them off with out shots
- finish off mobs with your weapon...instead of wasting mp on another nuke


Pets won't help you now...unless you can borrow a friends 55+ kookaburra or great wolf. I mean levelling up the one you have now is great cuz it will be helpful later...but for the time being they just die and kinda heal you.

Also try to find raids or kama's they will level you up quickly with minimal cost.

Sadly i'm on devianne so i can't help you. would if i could :-/ But yeah c grade sucks for the solo se :(

[Krissa]

Forest of mirrors... ghosts are undead and thus weak to holy. Very easy at 44 and indeed can be killed before then. They give decent XP due to their abilites (high evasion) but that does little good against your nukes. (lvl35 undead nukes or inquisitor)
They drop adena and herbs more often than not and shouldn't break the bank.

Given how easy they are you can indeed kill them without shots, but you will have downtime if herb drops are not favorable.
They also level soul crystals to stage 4 (and then Harit Lizardmen nearby level them to stage 5, for Mysterious Sword/Acumen, Crystal Staff/Mana Up etc.).

[Megatron]

And, I'm playing in Teon if someone cares to invite a SE in his/her clan.

No Remorse are always looking for live supports!

http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=207021

[MrsDestinyV]

Uuuuuummmmm....Megatron as I see you don't accept people less than lvl76.
My SE is lvl44. :(
And what I'm looking for is a clan with players around my levels to party with so I can exp and become "independed" in some way. You'll tell me now, buffers cannot be independed from other classes, but well, I saw that my AW wasn't needed anywhere so I decided to make the SE(supposed that it would be easier to exp, but it's not as it seems).
If someone has any friends in Teon that look for a healer in ,let's call it, "semi-constant" party for Kama or Raid Bosses, preferably in weekends(school all the week long), and if they are around levels 40-50, then tell them that a SE named Meliaduel is looking for a party and is willing to join.
Any PMs here or to Meliaduel/MrsDestinyV/PetitCraftette/Dorostalitsa(my chars xD) are welcome.

[Megatron]

I know your lvl.

We take lower lvl ppl as well. :)

And we have the right party for you.. :)

[vikobe]

You seriously need to start reading before typing, miss vikobe.

If I party someone or not is up to me, what I do with my time. That doesnt mean Im a hypocrite if I dont. But I am still allowed to give advice.

A wolf is useless to her, she will be unable to get the gear for it that makes it even kill 1 mob.

She is asking advice for what to do on her SE, not a dwarf or destroyer. She most likely wants her SE to be able to do it on her own. On her own, she cant lvl a pet, nor afford gear...

As for pain, I lvled a dwarf back in prelude, you will never know as much pain as me lol :D

As for gear for strider, are you saying your hatchling killed mobs FOR you without any gear whatsoever? And survived?

My advice to miss Vikobe. Go out and get a wolf, gear it up with TOP wolf gear (its not that expencive, its not great wolf gear). Then have it kill mobs for you at lvl 15.

Then come back and tell us how THAT went.

Ok miss smittie admit they dont care the randoms se or random prophet because he have his personal slave box buffer and he dare to suggest buffer and healer dont take a pet :)

I guarantee you her wolf will be more usefull for her than you, because at least the wolf help her you no, but wathever she have kokaburra, so now she only need to pay for the food

Maybe destroyer not, but have dwarf as second character can be usefull for money

Because you think dark wizard is more easy ??

I did it with my bishop and have bought very cheap armor and jewel, so he was not one shoter by mob and i used him when my nuke was too low and my heal more usefull, off course i share my mini dinosaur with my others characters

I already have dinosaur and i already tested him, but wathever, i didnt suggest her to use dinosaur and she have kokaburra so now she just need to care aout food and i never see someone be enough crazy to use kokaburra to be tank or fighter so she dont really need to buy set armor and set jewel, only the minimun to avoid the one shot

I think megatron is in teon, he can help you destinyV, i hope, so i heard his clan is nice and have good people, so good luck if you join him :D

[Kareshi]

I've got a SE lvl44(refer to signature below). I'm low on money and I want you to tell me a place to exp this lil SE.
I'm Desperate. I've got a Common weap and Divine set.
LF Responses please :(

I could use a 40+ SE to cover my back in dungeons ..pm me (or mail) in game and let's make a party somewhere^^

Like cata or necro...that earns some nice money

[Smittie]

Ok miss smittie admit they dont care the randoms se or random prophet because he have his personal slave box buffer and he dare to suggest buffer and healer dont take a pet :)

I guarantee you her wolf will be more usefull for her than you, because at least the wolf help her you no, but wathever she have kokaburra, so now she only need to pay for the food

Maybe destroyer not, but have dwarf as second character can be usefull for money

Because you think dark wizard is more easy ??

I did it with my bishop and have bought very cheap armor and jewel, so he was not one shoter by mob and i used him when my nuke was too low and my heal more usefull, off course i share my mini dinosaur with my others characters

I already have dinosaur and i already tested him, but wathever, i didnt suggest her to use dinosaur and she have kokaburra so now she just need to care aout food and i never see someone be enough crazy to use kokaburra to be tank or fighter so she dont really need to buy set armor and set jewel, only the minimun to avoid the one shot

I think megatron is in teon, he can help you destinyV, i hope, so i heard his clan is nice and have good people, so good luck if you join him :D

I also have toons on teon, I could easily send her a few mil adena, but that isnt gonna help her in the long run. She needs to learn how to play the game on an SE and still make money.

I think if vikobe is on teon he should buy her a wolf, and the gear for it. He seems to think its gonna help her.

I did at one point lvl a new SE sub from 40-61 in 12 hours, using bday buff and a wolf. But that wolf was 57 when I started at 40, and all I did was stigma for it and heal it.

Doubt she can afford the 55 wolf (around 70m on teon), nor the top gear for it (roughly 160m). Remember, she stated she was poor...

As for your little incoherent rant about hatchlings, I could care less.

[vikobe]

I also have toons on teon, I could easily send her a few mil adena, but that isnt gonna help her in the long run. She needs to learn how to play the game on an SE and still make money.

I think if vikobe is on teon he should buy her a wolf, and the gear for it. He seems to think its gonna help her.

I did at one point lvl a new SE sub from 40-61 in 12 hours, using bday buff and a wolf. But that wolf was 57 when I started at 40, and all I did was stigma for it and heal it.

Doubt she can afford the 55 wolf (around 70m on teon), nor the top gear for it (roughly 160m). Remember, she stated she was poor...

As for your little incoherent rant about hatchlings, I could care less.

She already have kokaburra why she will need wolf ?? :)

You are alway the first to spam find friend or clan to new prophet or new healer, because your precious buffer box are more importants than new players and sometime you suggest them to reroll, so do your own advice and give her some millions :)

At least with your millions she can be fine with bss for very long time, so dont be greedy smittie and apply your advice for one time forget your precious box for at least some years and party with her and the others news prophets and buffers :)

don't proove than your are more useless than her kokaburra because you said kokaburra is useless for her, so if kokaburra is useless for her, what about you??, what is worst than useless ??

[MrsDestinyV]

I know your lvl.

We take lower lvl ppl as well. :)

And we have the right party for you.. :)

Then who shall I pm :)?
(About my schedule, when I log in, refer to the reply below)

I could use a 40+ SE to cover my back in dungeons ..pm me (or mail) in game and let's make a party somewhere^^

Like cata or necro...that earns some nice money

Ok Kareshi. Tell me your in game char name and I'll pm you. I'm logged on Fridays at about 3 p.m. Saturdays the same and on Sundays after 12 o'clock p.m. I mentioned before that I rarely log in on week days (Monday - Thursday) because of school.

PS: I don't accept adena. I want to develop the char by myself :)

[Smittie]

She already have kokaburra why she will need wolf ?? :)

You are alway the first to spam find friend or clan to new prophet or new healer, because your precious buffer box are more importants than new players and sometime you suggest them to reroll, so do your own advice and give her some millions :)

At least with your millions she can be fine with bss for very long time, so dont be greedy smittie and apply your advice for one time forget your precious box for at least some years and party with her and the others news prophets and buffers :)

don't proove than your are more useless than her kokaburra because you said kokaburra is useless for her, so if kokaburra is useless for her, what about you??, what is worst than useless ??

Read.
Think.
Write post.
Spellcheck.
Post it.

Do it in that order pls.

I never told her kookaburra isnt good for her, just that its a waste of time and adena for her atm. She needs to party and make some cash.

I dont help ppl by just throwing cash at them. That doesnt help them in the long run. They are just gonna use it up and then ask for more...

If I choose to box buffers or not does not involve her, or her need for adena. Who knows, we might not even play during the same hours of the day.

I have already given her advice, so now she can choose to listen to me, or she can listen to you and then its up to her to figure out what advice is the most sound.

On the plus side, my advice was coherent :D

Have fun learning english Vikobe.

[Megatron]

Then who shall I pm :)?

Ykara, Marant, Juho, Ghost1walker, Orpheus1. :)

[vikobe]

Read.
Think.
Write post.
Spellcheck.
Post it.

Do it in that order pls.

I never told her kookaburra isnt good for her, just that its a waste of time and adena for her atm. She needs to party and make some cash.

I dont help ppl by just throwing cash at them. That doesnt help them in the long run. They are just gonna use it up and then ask for more...

If I choose to box buffers or not does not involve her, or her need for adena. Who knows, we might not even play during the same hours of the day.

I have already given her advice, so now she can choose to listen to me, or she can listen to you and then its up to her to figure out what advice is the most sound.

On the plus side, my advice was coherent :D

Have fun learning english Vikobe.

And why she cant be party with you and made adenas with you ??

I can ask same question about new prophets too

So if kookaburra its a waste of time and adena for her why you dont do and be better than her kokaburra, you only proove you are more useless than her koka, because your box is more important than her :)

[MrsDestinyV]

Thank you a lot guys. All of you for your advice :D
I haven't logged in yet, just to exp my dorf till 18lvl, but I'm sure I'll log in on Friday and try to follow your advice. It seems that I have already found someone to party with and a clan so I thank you a lot.
Any other advice are welcome, though. :)

Kisses,
MDv.

[Smittie]

And why she cant be party with you and made adenas with you ??

I can ask same question about new prophets too

So if kookaburra its a waste of time and adena for her why you dont do and be better than her kokaburra, you only proove you are more useless than her koka, because your box is more important than her :)

Has she said what times she play? Am I even on same time as her?

Do I have toons around her lvl?

Do you know anything about me?

Atleast I tried to give her sound advice, where as you were leading her on a wild goose chase and slowing down her exping for no reason.

The fact that you are trying to put the burden of exping her on me instead of giving her good advice, kinda shows how you fail at giving advice.

So my advice to you is: Dont try giving ppl advice.

[vikobe]

Has she said what times she play? Am I even on same time as her?

Do I have toons around her lvl?

Do you know anything about me?

Atleast I tried to give her sound advice, where as you were leading her on a wild goose chase and slowing down her exping for no reason.

The fact that you are trying to put the burden of exping her on me instead of giving her good advice, kinda shows how you fail at giving advice.

So my advice to you is: Dont try giving ppl advice.

My question is more general, because in many posts you boast about your precious box and than the news se or news prophet must reroll if they come here to complaint or want pty with you

I only see than your are hypocrit, arrogant, elitist, egocentric, egoist, have big mouth, but thiny maker, so it is the only things you show to me

My reason it is buffer and healer need pets, because too much people are like you, prefer their box and dont want play with real buffer

and my second reason it is you are more useless than the pets :)


And you, you fail to follow your own advice, because you dont want play with randoms se and randoms prophets

So my advice to you is: Dont try giving ppl advice if you cant respect your own advice :)

[Smittie]

My question is more general, because in many posts you boast about your precious box and than the news se or news prophet must reroll if they come here to complaint or want pty with you

I only see than your are hypocrit, arrogant, elitist, egocentric, egoist, have big mouth, but thiny maker, so it is the only things you show to me

My reason it is buffer and healer need pets, because too much people are like you, prefer their box and dont want play with real buffer

and my second reason it is you are more useless than the pets :)


And you, you fail to follow your own advice, because you dont want play with randoms se and randoms prophets

So my advice to you is: Dont try giving ppl advice if you cant respect your own advice :)

I dont know how you can keep missing one key element. She is poor. Wolf is more than costly, the gear alone for a wolf is at least 60m or so, and thats not even top gear, just decent gear.

Telling a broke lvl 44 SE to get a wolf is BAD ADVICE no matter how many ppl out there box SE or Prophet or ANYTHING.

How I choose to play this game doesnt affect her, and it most certainly doesnt affect you.

So got off my case.

If you wanna flame the advice I gave her go ahead, but since you have missed the whole point of my initial post, just leave already.

If you wanna flame the way I play this game, then you can go make a post where you cry about ppl boxing.

[MrsDestinyV]

I've read about boxes that you say here.
It's a way out of topic, but I would like to add something.
As it isn't the first time to play SE neither Lineage (5 years Lineage II, 2 of them almost on SE, but not on Official)., I would like to say here it's indeed a problem about people who box prophets/SE/EE. If any DD/Nuker started having from behind SE/Prophets then, it makes some classes, and they aren't few, truly lifeless, I mean that no more active players will use such classes, so it would be hard to find an "alive" supporter.
Part of the responsibility, I believe, has NCSoft too. Why? Because supporters are depended to other players, so it makes them hard to level up (now, it leads to bots).
But in any way,we are already into a vicious circle, so there won't be any "salvation" from this.

Well that was all I wanted to say here.

[faiien]

i always box stuff with me, no matter what level i am, i usually have a 78 SE and most of the time a 78 warcryer following me around

if i am playing a level 40-50 alt/sub, and group up with a level 40 SE, my 78 SE is by far superiour with overenchnated skills, big loads of recharge etc.

BUT!!!!

my 78 boxed Se cant heal me when i need to, this is why i usually have no problem at all grabbing a random lowbie live support class that is played live.

i can box a level 79 cardinal, but the heals from the level 40 SE will remain superior, because they come IN TIME, unlike me having to change windows, target my toon from out of party and THEN heal, and hope it will make it there in time. also, i am not fighting or doing damage while im screen-swaping.

that means that for some people, having boxed characters doesn't eliminate grouping up with lower lvl supports, the high level boxes are there to give superior buffs and recharge, thats all. that not only means that the lowbie support will save their mana (not have to buff) and will have better abilities (superior buffs), the live lowbie playing support will be more efficient healing then healing myself from a 2box.

it is not the ability of people to box toons that is ruining the game, its the people's attitude about it that is. people are greedy, they think they get to earn more XP if completely on their own. Sure i can go AOE 10 mobs at a time on a level 40 BD, too bad that if i had a live healer i could maybe AOE 30 and end up with allot more XP in the long run. and i wont even go into AOEing on a nuker who doesn't have the benefit of VR and decent P def

[vikobe]

I dont know how you can keep missing one key element. She is poor. Wolf is more than costly, the gear alone for a wolf is at least 60m or so, and thats not even top gear, just decent gear.

Telling a broke lvl 44 SE to get a wolf is BAD ADVICE no matter how many ppl out there box SE or Prophet or ANYTHING.

How I choose to play this game doesnt affect her, and it most certainly doesnt affect you.

So got off my case.

If you wanna flame the advice I gave her go ahead, but since you have missed the whole point of my initial post, just leave already.

If you wanna flame the way I play this game, then you can go make a post where you cry about ppl boxing.

Ghaaa she have kokaburra and i suggested to get kokaburra or wolf

I assure you how you choose to play affect someone, you are the first to post in the topic about the box or prophet, many members suggested to remove box because it ruin the games and you come to say to them to reroll or buy another account

Well you are the first to flame in this post, not me, you begin to quote my post and start the hostilitie, i hope you enjoy with that and whatever i bet while you flame with me you continue to flame with 3 others people in 3 others subjects, just show me one post you dont flame with people, only one, every time i see your posts you already have problem with someone :)

And so are you so embarrassed i show your hypocrisy about your eternal find friend ?? you say find friend and in same time you say i love too much my box to play with new prophet or new buffer :)

[KnightOfDarkness]

I didn't read many of the answering posts as a lot of it was ignorant and irrelevant information.

Ok take this from a player from Open Beta when having your stuff at your level was considered rich. (I know it's common but unless you enchant your equipment, there's no difference but a few lost mp in divine set).

So one, put the SE on standby and make a dwarf and go scavenger and then bountyhunter. Spoil and sweep every mob. Dwarves can level fairly easily in common equipment which is not at all expensive when you start to need it because you are spoiling extra money. Sell the trashy recipes and junk and save all the basic materials such as animal bones, steel, and etc and store them in your warehouse. Keep the soulshot and spiritshot recipes. When you happen to acquire the soulshot and blessed spirit shot recipes for grades D, C, B etc. make another dwarf and go artisan into warsmith and give the recipes to him. Then you can craft these and not only have cheap bsps for your SE to nuke with, but you can sell leftovers in private shops when you're gonna be afk for a while. You could craft a lot and sell out over night and make good profits every night and as the weeks go by, you will have a nice sum of money. You want to level your two dwarves to at least 61. A grade will be difficult as common will be drop only so you will need to buy from other players but by then you should have enough money from spoiling and selling shots to have enough money to equip yourself in common A grade. Then when you have that done, you can continue your SE and you should now be able to get that wolf everyone talked about and raise it to a great wolf now that you have the money to afford equipment for it. When you and the wolf hit 55, you can stop using inquistor and evolve the wolf, get it a little better equipment and you can play as a summoner, buffing and healing the wolf while it fights. Using beast ss is a lot cheaper than using bsps and you have more bsps to sell overnight to make more money. So then you can level your SE and wolf and can level your bountyhunter with spoiling and you should be set into S grade. Now this does sound like a lot of work, but that's just it. This game is a lot of work! There is a reason why people took years in the beginning to make it to 78. Now it's easier for you because you have newbie buffs, common equipment, battle pets, herbs, vitality.

If you think this is too much, then you should consider another game because you would have not made it when the game first came out where you fight undergeared with ss/bsps used for pvp or emergencies only, no common equipment, no newbie buffs, no adventurer guides, no strong pets (man no one could afford the weak pets), no herbs, people ksed you, people griefed you, people scammed you, people pked you, people ganked you, you could drop any equipment that took you weeks or months to get just by dieing to a mob or another player, there were no augments or any of that, no vitality, no CP!, B grade used to be the old S grade, the first equipment where you had to unseal stuff??? A grade was like s80...powerful, rare, and expensive but so worth it in pvp for that 25% pvp damage. And SE's did not have inquisitor so they HAD to party or DD on self buffs in light armor, fighter weapon the whole ordeal. So consider yourself in L2 easy mode.

So yea, do all of that and you will be fine afterwards and can level even easier. Also try to stick to a primary character to work with, your only alts should be your two dwarves. Keep to your main character untill S grade + when you can keep your character up to date and can afford to feed another mouth. By then you could subclass and skip levels 1-39

[faiien]

I didn't read many of the answering posts as a lot of it was ignorant and irrelevant information.

Ok take this from a player from Open Beta when having your stuff at your level was considered rich. (I know it's common but unless you enchant your equipment, there's no difference but a few lost mp in divine set).

So one, put the SE on standby and make a dwarf and go scavenger and then bountyhunter. Spoil and sweep every mob. Dwarves can level fairly easily in common equipment which is not at all expensive when you start to need it because you are spoiling extra money. Sell the trashy recipes and junk and save all the basic materials such as animal bones, steel, and etc and store them in your warehouse. Keep the soulshot and spiritshot recipes. When you happen to acquire the soulshot and blessed spirit shot recipes for grades D, C, B etc. make another dwarf and go artisan into warsmith and give the recipes to him. Then you can craft these and not only have cheap bsps for your SE to nuke with, but you can sell leftovers in private shops when you're gonna be afk for a while. You could craft a lot and sell out over night and make good profits every night and as the weeks go by, you will have a nice sum of money. You want to level your two dwarves to at least 61. A grade will be difficult as common will be drop only so you will need to buy from other players but by then you should have enough money from spoiling and selling shots to have enough money to equip yourself in common A grade. Then when you have that done, you can continue your SE and you should now be able to get that wolf everyone talked about and raise it to a great wolf now that you have the money to afford equipment for it. When you and the wolf hit 55, you can stop using inquistor and evolve the wolf, get it a little better equipment and you can play as a summoner, buffing and healing the wolf while it fights. Using beast ss is a lot cheaper than using bsps and you have more bsps to sell overnight to make more money. So then you can level your SE and wolf and can level your bountyhunter with spoiling and you should be set into S grade. Now this does sound like a lot of work, but that's just it. This game is a lot of work! There is a reason why people took years in the beginning to make it to 78. Now it's easier for you because you have newbie buffs, common equipment, battle pets, herbs, vitality.

If you think this is too much, then you should consider another game because you would have not made it when the game first came out where you fight undergeared with ss/bsps used for pvp or emergencies only, no common equipment, no newbie buffs, no adventurer guides, no strong pets (man no one could afford the weak pets), no herbs, people ksed you, people griefed you, people scammed you, people pked you, people ganked you, you could drop any equipment that took you weeks or months to get just by dieing to a mob or another player, there were no augments or any of that, no vitality, no CP!, B grade used to be the old S grade, the first equipment where you had to unseal stuff??? A grade was like s80...powerful, rare, and expensive but so worth it in pvp for that 25% pvp damage. And SE's did not have inquisitor so they HAD to party or DD on self buffs in light armor, fighter weapon the whole ordeal. So consider yourself in L2 easy mode.

So yea, do all of that and you will be fine afterwards and can level even easier. Also try to stick to a primary character to work with, your only alts should be your two dwarves. Keep to your main character untill S grade + when you can keep your character up to date and can afford to feed another mouth. By then you could subclass and skip levels 1-39


THIS is a good advice.

you wont make allot of money playing SE, you need money making alts regardless what everyone says.

[Smittie]

Ghaaa she have kokaburra and i suggested to get kokaburra or wolf

I assure you how you choose to play affect someone, you are the first to post in the topic about the box or prophet, many members suggested to remove box because it ruin the games and you come to say to them to reroll or buy another account

Well you are the first to flame in this post, not me, you begin to quote my post and start the hostilitie, i hope you enjoy with that and whatever i bet while you flame with me you continue to flame with 3 others people in 3 others subjects, just show me one post you dont flame with people, only one, every time i see your posts you already have problem with someone :)

And so are you so embarrassed i show your hypocrisy about your eternal find friend ?? you say find friend and in same time you say i love too much my box to play with new prophet or new buffer :)

Not agreeing with Vikobe and showing how her advice was bad=hostile.

If you cant take a different opinion then dont post here, seriously.

You talked about me boxing, not the other way around. You are also the first one to start flaming, trying to make me feel guilty about the way I play.

I dont care about anyone outside of my clan as far as parties are concerned. How am I to know if the person playing the support isnt just gonna give up on it when it gets to 60 instead of 44. Why waste my limited time?

I was out lvling today in Alligator island on my newly made kamael. A shillien oracle shouted when I was about to log.

I stayed and made sure he got a full lvl.

Out of guilt? No, because I'm a nice person. And to top it off he had a 36 hatchling leeching the whole time.

Had you only told the OP to get a kookaburra, I could have agreed to a certain extent, but you told her to get a wolf.

[vikobe]

Not agreeing with Vikobe and showing how her advice was bad=hostile.

If you cant take a different opinion then dont post here, seriously.

You talked about me boxing, not the other way around. You are also the first one to start flaming, trying to make me feel guilty about the way I play.

I dont care about anyone outside of my clan as far as parties are concerned. How am I to know if the person playing the support isnt just gonna give up on it when it gets to 60 instead of 44. Why waste my limited time?

I was out lvling today in Alligator island on my newly made kamael. A shillien oracle shouted when I was about to log.

I stayed and made sure he got a full lvl.

Out of guilt? No, because I'm a nice person. And to top it off he had a 36 hatchling leeching the whole time.

Had you only told the OP to get a kookaburra, I could have agreed to a certain extent, but you told her to get a wolf.

Maybe but it is no me have problem with the half of this forum, i can show several posts about you have troubles with the others members only in this month :)

Oh the baby smittie begin to not have argument and want escape to ask me to stop post and take off his insanities :cool:

Well now baby smittie want show to everyone he is victime from evil vikobe, even if he have the reputation to look troubles :cool:

If you can have time to waste here, i think you have time to waste for what i asked you in the page 1 of this topic

Ok you have obsession about the wolves, ok sorry if many se use wolves too, didnt knew wolf it is insult for you or you fear the wolves

Just a stupid question have you be traumatized by Little Red Riding Hood or Three Little Pigs when you were child ?? i think in sweden we can find many wolves :)

[Smittie]

Wow, thanks for using up my patience.

But that incoherent rambling mess you call typing takes to long for me to translate to readable.

I wont be arguing with someone who cant even form readable sentences and does nothing but personal attack when wrong.

No, Im not afraid of wolves.
No, there are no wolves near where I live in Sweden.
No, Im not trying to make you stop posting, just to post coherent stuff, that ppl can understand.
No, Im not trying to appear a victim.

GL & HF

[pix]

On the subject of wolves the quest doesnt cost u anything u just kill 50 low lvl mobs and answer a few questions - u really only need to take it in a few kamas which wont cost u very much if anything in food and then sell it - depends how patient u are on teon a no name wolf at 15 u will probably get 500k for n by 55 as someone said u will get several mil.

"And why she cant be party with you and made adenas with you ??

I can ask same question about new prophets too"

ur being ridiculous its neither smitties or anyone elses duty to xp them - only to offer advice as asked :-S

personally ive always tried to help active buffer/healers but on many occassions ive invested time adena whatever only for them to quit or reroll at which point i decided to box one because for me its more consistant - all down to personal choice ><

[Kordesh]

Go in front of a rich clans Clan Hall & yell:

Will Dance For Adena. :)

[vikobe]

Wow, thanks for using up my patience.

But that incoherent rambling mess you call typing takes to long for me to translate to readable.

I wont be arguing with someone who cant even form readable sentences and does nothing but personal attack when wrong.

No, Im not afraid of wolves.
No, there are no wolves near where I live in Sweden.
No, Im not trying to make you stop posting, just to post coherent stuff, that ppl can understand.
No, Im not trying to appear a victim.

GL & HF

I am sure you have fun to arguing with me, because even if you say the opposite you continue and don't cry smittie you wished to talk with me, so now you happy don't whine if you don't like it :)

Oh be happy you have new fan in your fan club with pix :)

[KnightOfDarkness]

Vikobe and Smittie... really. it's not that serious.

[Pirotesa]

Wow, thanks for using up my patience.

But that incoherent rambling mess you call typing takes to long for me to translate to readable.

I wont be arguing with someone who cant even form readable sentences and does nothing but personal attack when wrong.

No, Im not afraid of wolves.
No, there are no wolves near where I live in Sweden.
No, Im not trying to make you stop posting, just to post coherent stuff, that ppl can understand.
No, Im not trying to appear a victim.

GL & HF

HAHAHAHAHA!

Vikobe got him to Shut Up, LOL.

Good Job Vikobe!!!


I would say something constructive, but I'm an SE from the old age where I had to whack away at the mobs in Melee style with LA and Mace or better, Duals to lvl. Right now, it's **** easy to lvl an SE using Inq Stance. Even one hour a night with Vit though lvl 40-50 you can level on greens without sps. Lvl up that Kooka when you can, I wish I could have done so. After lvling my hatchling, I'm done with pets (Lvling hatchlings to strider long ago was a REAL PAIN!). If you have a wolf though, lvl it up when you can afford to. I had a friend loan me one without armor or weapons and even though it was 15 lvls below me, It would kick some serious butt! I just had to stigma and heal some. It wasn't my style though, I would have played a summoner otherwise.

Mrs DestinyV, At your lvl you should find someone to party with. Even though it's much easier to lvl an SE now, it's much more fun to lvl with friends.

If you are feeling adventurous though... keep trying. I will say one thing, someone mentioned that until Forest of the Dead, you will not make much adena, but more importantly, will not get Buff Herbs. Using Inq Stance helps you to wipe out undead mobs much more easily, but it also wipes out your MP. Undead mob areas until to FotD do not drop buff herbs. So start testing out same lvl LIVE mob areas and see which ones will give you the best dmg/MP/exp ratios. You may make less exp on these "live" mobs, but the herbs they drop can keep you going as some of them are MP Herbs. I would love to specify an area where you could try this, but as I said, it was a different time for me. I used Devotion set until past lvl 40 and barely ever used spiritshots back then. Good luck Mrs DV!

[MrsDestinyV]

I've already found a place to exp. Forest of Mirrors more precisely ^^.
So thanks a lot for your advice ^^

[Smittie]

I am sure you have fun to arguing with me, because even if you say the opposite you continue and don't cry smittie you wished to talk with me, so now you happy don't whine if you don't like it :)

Oh be happy you have new fan in your fan club with pix :)

Randomly thrown together words again. Really, try to make more sense vikobe.

[Smittie]

HAHAHAHAHA!

Vikobe got him to Shut Up, LOL.

Good Job Vikobe!!!


I would say something constructive, blah blah blah, I had it so hard lvling up, blah blah blah.

Noone gets me to shut up. I can't always check forums every day.

So you havent quit game yet Piro?

I play on both Phoenix and Teon now, and guess what, I made a new SE to BOX on Teon too :D

SE sure is a nice class to box, and so easy too.

Thank you NCsoft for making them so easy to box.

Have a good day, Pirobota.

[vikobe]

Randomly thrown together words again. Really, try to make more sense vikobe.

It is no my fault if you do not understand :)

[Smittie]

It is no my fault if you are not enough intelligent to understand :)

It's actually the other way around.

[Sace]

Please keep insults and personal attacks out of the forums. :)

Edit: Since the OP found the answers they wanted, this thread has served its purpose.

/locked