View Full Version : Exploits - Just Say No
We were recently alerted to a bug in the Olympiad involving the irregular use of clan skills during Olympiad matches. Those who have used or gained benefit from this bug are being punished. Players who continue to use this bug to gain an unfair advantage will be permanently removed from the game.
If you hear of a bug or an exploit that is being abused in-game, the best course of action is to immediately report it to the GM team. While we understand there may be some curiosity or even a sense of duty to verify a bug or an exploit, it will always be more beneficial to report the issue rather than try to test or confirm it. When these types of things are discovered and we check our logs, we have no way of confirming whether a player is testing/confirming the bug or abusing the bug as an exploit. Additionally, we have an outstanding QA team whose sole purpose is to verify these types of reports.
No one wants to play a game with cheaters. Anytime someone cheats, uses an exploit, or gains an impossible and unfair advantage over another player, everyone suffers from it eventually. Do your part to keep your game exploit and cheat free: write a petition!<o>
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Ykara
08-24-2010, 07:11 PM
Make it perma. :x
Julie
08-24-2010, 08:05 PM
There is actually a way to distinguish players that were abusing this bug and players that testing if its true, by your logs which will show the abusers using it permanently, and the testers using it once or twice max.
there was no other way that we could know if they used this bug or not but testing if this works, the first time we tested it only the squad skills were activated and clanskills weren't, the second testing showed us that all skills were enabled randomly.
Sometimes either only the Squad skills were activated and clan skills not, and the second testing showed that all skills were enabled randomly..
Draecke
08-24-2010, 08:38 PM
please unban those that reported the exploit as from what I heard those also got hit by this temp ban which is a bit harsh
PentAh
08-24-2010, 08:59 PM
i don't understand why the verification proccess between real cheaters and testers is not confirmed by their logs. Simply: - Testers used this bug a couple of times maximum, and - Bug users used this bug on its max.
testers: and they didnt got benefited from it, Bug users: they got full benefits on points
also, silenthorros first reported this bug, fact that indicates that this clan wasnt aiming to benefit from it
but to solve it.
Ykara
08-24-2010, 09:14 PM
Lets make a deal.
Perma ban the exploiters.. and perma remove CP and QHP pots from radar users.
We were recently alerted to a bug in the Olympiad involving the irregular use of clan skills during Olympiad matches. Those who have used or gained benefit from this bug are being punished. Players who continue to use this bug to gain an unfair advantage will be permanently removed from the game.
If you hear of a bug or an exploit that is being abused in-game, the best course of action is to immediately report it to the GM team. While we understand there may be some curiosity or even a sense of duty to verify a bug or an exploit, it will always be more beneficial to report the issue rather than try to test or confirm it. When these types of things are discovered and we check our logs, we have no way of confirming whether a player is testing/confirming the bug or abusing the bug as an exploit. Additionally, we have an outstanding QA team whose sole purpose is to verify these types of reports.
No one wants to play a game with cheaters. Anytime someone cheats, uses an exploit, or gains an impossible and unfair advantage over another player, everyone suffers from it eventually. Do your part to keep your game exploit and cheat free: write a petition!<o>
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How would a player know the bug exists if they don't test the bug themselves? If a bug is being privately exploited, few other players become suspicious, then find the bug themselves, report it only to get banned themselves. How is that supposed to encourage players to report future bugs which are discovered. Should players just not report the bugs to avoid getting banned?
Ykara
08-24-2010, 09:38 PM
Simple.. report as possible exploit.. and let the GMs do some work once in a while.
You people know as well as me.. that nobody in a top clan.. is as clean as you are trying to make SH look like.
Speaking of which.. I just saw a SH.. on bot mode, doing epic quest... didn't even attack a wartag. :)
Emilie
08-24-2010, 09:51 PM
Current Politics doesn't seem so clear, as they make players even more reluctant to report further bugs in case they even accidently use them. Players logs would clearly separate bug abuser from a bug tester.
Also, clan RedStorm knowing that bans after abuse may occur, they had the chance to transfer their clan leadership while we (SilentHorrors Clan) didnt and they will enjoy benefits of Clan Leadership at sieges and territory wars despite the fact that their leader used this bug. We wont be able to use clan leader privileges because we tested the existence of this bug and reported it first to gm's.
Moxie
08-25-2010, 12:56 AM
We do not want to discourage people from reporting bugs or potential exploits. We greatly appreciate these types of reports, however, it is not necessary for players to use an exploit in an attempt to verify it before reporting it to us. We do want to discourage players from trying out a bug or exploit they've heard about. As the original post said, we have an outstanding QA team that has a long history of figuring out bugs and exploits with small bits of information. They have many tools at their disposal to figure things out.
Regarding this situation, I will make a statement one time and further posts will be removed. Had the this scenario been a "tested it once or twice max" situation, we may have considered some leniency. However, we checked logs thoroughly and found that once or twice was definitely not the max. In the spirit of fairness, the same punishment was given to all players who were involved. This decision will not be reversed.
-Moxie
Simple.. report as possible exploit.. and let the GMs do some work once in a while.
You people know as well as me.. that nobody in a top clan.. is as clean as you are trying to make SH look like.
Speaking of which.. I just saw a SH.. on bot mode, doing epic quest... didn't even attack a wartag. :)
It was reported when it had been discovered. And if you would like to let GM's do some work once in awhile, maybe you shouldn't be trying to speak on their behalf as you aren't part of NCSoft. Not once in my post did I try to make SH look "clean". I clearly stated facts. If the facts point to SH being clean, then thats how you view it. If you saw some SH on bot mode doing a quest, then go petition it or take care of that issue where it should be and not in this thread.
Smittie
08-25-2010, 02:01 AM
Wouldnt it be easier to just monitor what the top clans on Teon are doing every 3 months or so?
That seems to be where the exploits/cheats come from.
Hint to GM's raise/lower their cp randomly, watch the autospam :D
TiredOrc
08-25-2010, 02:59 AM
No one wants to play a game with cheaters. Anytime someone cheats, uses an exploit, or gains an impossible and unfair advantage over another player, everyone suffers from it eventually. Do your part to keep your game exploit and cheat free: write a petition!<o>
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ohh the irony...and yet the game is full of bots and they been ruining the game for years...but I guess as long as it brings money in house...nobody complains...what a joke
Sa1en
08-25-2010, 03:24 AM
hm, how to dont use clan skillz in the oly match ? :O they r passive :X
hm, how to dont use clan skillz in the oly match ? :O they r passive :X
I've been wondering that same thing. Maybe the passive skills became active buffs? somehow..? Really wish they would give a description of what happens so i could maybe tell if my opponent is using it or not, and it would just be interesting to know what it did and how it occured. Even after the issue is resolved, just a short post explaining what happened when you did certain action.
Draecke
08-25-2010, 04:23 AM
Hint to GM's raise/lower their cp randomly, watch the autospam :D
This already happens through random checks for a long time, has happened to me on a regular basis which can be awkward when aoeing but besides that not an issue.
The Oly bug is simple that a clan can have quite a lot of passive skills & guard unit skills as well wards that significantly boost certain stats/resists..
check the below link for what boosts they give when your in a lvl11 clan with everything added ie all top clans on Teon have and wards aka say +3 CON or +3 STR is a big boost to have over someone who doesn't have them aka 99% of all Oly players..
http://lineage2.rochand.com/Knowledge/clan.php?type=skills&level=5
http://lineage2.rochand.com/Knowledge/clan.php?type=squad&level=7
the chance of using the bug/exploit by accident is close to null and can only be initiated by the clanleader which is why those have been banned for 14 days versus the rest for just 7days.. imo I still think those who got Hero that way should be taken away their Hero (or at least the ill gotten Oly points) really..
Krissa
08-25-2010, 05:03 AM
hm, how to dont use clan skillz in the oly match ? :O they r passive :X
They are passive, but they are blocked for oly participants. However, NCsoft programmers are too lasy to think what they are doing, so with the help of your clan leader you can overcome these blocks.
Am i missing something or what...
How can a clanleader exploit something that is passive?
Right now it sound more like a bug than an exploit to me (without an explaination how it works)
Only thing that comes to mind is moving a clanmember from one part of the clan to another part of the clan during oly, is that how it works?
missTyrael
08-25-2010, 06:23 AM
Stan, I think if you want to test something, first you need to inform NC about it. Like "I think there are bug with NPC XXX allowing me to get unlimited adena. Today I want to check if it works or now. If you want to participate in this test - please join me today at XX:XX" so NC will be sure that you do not use it for your benefit coz you announce it before.
I have found some bugs in past, but first what I did - transfer all information about it to NC (for example by Sace, because I thought that this will attract more attention to this data than written petition =) )
I think most problem was not clear description in EULA about bugs. All know that using bug is bannable but not all understand that even testing possibility if bug exist or not is also banneble.
Btw you need to decide what to do with people who fully understand that they use bug and who was ready to be banned (all stuff from toon was sended to alt, CL was in process of transfer to alt and so on ...)
Draecke
08-25-2010, 06:36 AM
there's still an huge difference between those who have done this so many times that they managed to get easy hero and those that tried to verify what the hell was going on..
also the bug as such is so childish simple to do you really should add a very clear warning to the login screen explaining that it's not working as intended and is actually a bannable offense..
btw on a side note as it was not mentioned but when the skill oe expliot took place those who benefited from it had their hero removed, is it safe to say the same will happen now and all their oly points as well for this month or will you just let that slip and they still have another month of easy hero in September ?
guess it's to much to ask to give the exploited oly points to their opponents when the abuse took place ?
Draconz
08-25-2010, 06:46 AM
I mean, why test a bug/exploit when you know there are rumors of its existence? Why you want to test its existence? Doesnt make sense to me....Just ban them all.
Fereveldir
08-25-2010, 08:13 AM
ANOTHER IMPORTANT QUESTION to the NCSoft staff
What are you going to do to the people that, thanks to this exploit,
got 7d ban but, in the previous days, managed to collect many points
from olympiads (and, because of this, are going to take an unlegit hero status)?
Are you going to reset their hero status like you did some months ago to the people that cheated with +30 skills?
LOOKING FOR OFFICIAL REPLY.
another example of how this affects people is how the bot problem is being handled as I heard last night in vent that player was afk botting in MoS while being on perma Hide mode (ranger option) and all you could see was his oop support & mobs dieing around him (mobs can't hit players on Hide mode) so I asked if they report it and the answer was "no as we couldn't target the player and there's no point in it either" so they let it go and moved to another xp spot..wow, that's hilarious
Draconz
08-25-2010, 08:44 AM
there were no rumors, people found out about it and wanted to confirm if it worked as intended as unlike the case with the skill oe exploit this oversight from the development team does not require the use of 3rd party software but just a shady clan leader that's willing to enter the grey area of what's allowed as long as it means beating the competition.
the punishment handed out here is not the issue as what is a 7 day ban now really, that punishment is a joke considering the benefits it gained the offenders be that profit from selling stuff obtained with their oly tokens or usage of hero skills at raids/pvp when they shouldn't have been hero in the first place but it will mean folks will stop bothering to report issues like these.
another example of how this affects people is how the bot problem is being handled as I heard last night in vent that player was afk botting in MoS while being on perma Hide mode (ranger option) and all you could see was his oop support & mobs dieing around him (mobs can't hit players on Hide mode) so I asked if they report it and the answer was "no as we couldn't target the player and there's no point in it either" so they let it go and moved to another xp spot..
the above was a clear example of an exploit in progress that actually could be proven easily unlike the Oly one but yeah people stop caring..
Lolz..that sux....Didnt knew about that one...
The Hero situation will be addressed accordingly.
ZoeSureShot
08-25-2010, 11:38 AM
No one wants to play a game with cheaters. Anytime someone cheats, uses an exploit, or gains an impossible and unfair advantage over another player, everyone suffers from it eventually. Do your part to keep your game exploit and cheat free: write a petition!<o>
</o>
Ban all the bots running rampant on the servers so I can believe what you are saying there. :P
Kal_o_q
08-25-2010, 11:40 AM
Ban bots? They can't do that! That'll be half NCSofts income gone.
Fereveldir
08-25-2010, 12:58 PM
The Hero situation will be addressed accordingly.
Sace, what does this mean? In short terms please, we have hero statuses to try to recover.
Thanks for your time.
Ykara
08-25-2010, 01:17 PM
She means.. the banned heroes get status revoked.
And the farmed points will probably set to 0.
Possibly no more fights until the end of the month.. for those people.
Considering they will only probably get released in September.. no fights for them in September as well.
So.. fights for hero, for that people.. only in October.
We wait update 10 mounth and got bugs? Why we shoud see who use bug or who no, please make some work Ncsoft West have so much GMs. Last year NA servece go down time by time(
Godiva
08-25-2010, 04:21 PM
So it is true then - it pays off to cheat in this game. Coz the cheaters may be banned for the whooping 14 days but they keep all the adena they farmed for all this time from the oly; all the rewards they earned being non-stop heroes etc...
So if we compare it to the real life it is like robbing a lot of banks and when caught to get the severe sentence - "two weeks on Havai".
Of course they are the same cheaters which were cheating with the skills OE exploit...
I wonder how many bannable offence some people must do to be really banned? And why the cheating of some players is tolerated... no, not tolerated - it is actually encouraged? Because how else you will call this when soem players know they may break the rules as they like and be sure no real punishment will follow?
Possibly no more fights until the end of the month.. for those people.
Considering they will only probably get released in September.. no fights for them in September as well.
So.. fights for hero, for that people.. only in October.
Oh, no! You mean they will have to wait to till October to start cheating again? This is really too harsh for them.
__Terry__
08-25-2010, 04:29 PM
This already happens through random checks for a long time, has happened to me on a regular basis which can be awkward when aoeing but besides that not an issue.
The Oly bug is simple that a clan can have quite a lot of passive skills & guard unit skills as well wards that significantly boost certain stats/resists..
check the below link for what boosts they give when your in a lvl11 clan with everything added ie all top clans on Teon have and wards aka say +3 CON or +3 STR is a big boost to have over someone who doesn't have them aka 99% of all Oly players..
http://lineage2.rochand.com/Knowledge/clan.php?type=skills&level=5
http://lineage2.rochand.com/Knowledge/clan.php?type=squad&level=7
the chance of using the bug/exploit by accident is close to null and can only be initiated by the clanleader which is why those have been banned for 14 days versus the rest for just 7days.. imo I still think those who got Hero that way should be taken away their Hero (or at least the ill gotten Oly points) really..
Im not trying to defend anyone, but isnt this just bad game develop? Developers made all these bonus to stack with the wards, seems preaty coerent to choose all skills that will give more boost. Maybe im missing something.
Xalya
08-25-2010, 04:47 PM
Im not trying to defend anyone, but isnt this just bad game develop? Developers made all these bonus to stack with the wards, seems preaty coerent to choose all skills that will give more boost. Maybe im missing something.
the problem is that normaly any clan skills are deactivated during Olympiad. ppl had found a bug thought that let them keep ward bonus and clan skills in Olympiad wich gives a fairly big boost in a "low buff" competition.
Cabbie
08-25-2010, 05:51 PM
Where does it say that some got a 7 day ban and some got a 14 day ban????
Also if it is only a x day ban that is really a slap in the face to a lot of people, the accounts should be perma banned otherwise what is the point?
Kal_o_q
08-25-2010, 06:00 PM
Where does it say that some got a 7 day ban and some got a 14 day ban????
Also if it is only a x day ban that is really a slap in the face to a lot of people, the accounts should be perma banned otherwise what is the point?
+1
sercatum
08-26-2010, 03:51 AM
Draecke[/B]]another example of how this affects people is how the bot problem is being handled as I heard last night in vent that player was afk botting in MoS while being on perma Hide mode (ranger option) and all you could see was his oop support & mobs dieing around him (mobs can't hit players on Hide mode) so I asked if they report it and the answer was "no as we couldn't target the player and there's no point in it either" so they let it go and moved to another xp spot..
That is amazing combination of all tools.
Bot in Hide.
Sace can we count as exploit and ban at least for 14 days? :)
On topic.
SH report bug of using TW wards .... after they loosed all :)
Yup fair game :eek:
Krissa
08-26-2010, 05:19 AM
As the original post said, we have an outstanding QA team that has a long history of figuring out bugs and exploits with small bits of information.
l2.bin? :rolleyes:
Xalya
08-26-2010, 07:12 AM
Where does it say that some got a 7 day ban and some got a 14 day ban????
Also if it is only a x day ban that is really a slap in the face to a lot of people, the accounts should be perma banned otherwise what is the point?
from what i understand its a 7 and 14 day ban + removal of any olympiadpoints.
7 day for anyone that benefited from it, 14 day for the ones that caused the bug to happen.
as it wasn't using any 3rd party programs i personally think its all fair.
Xalya
08-26-2010, 07:20 AM
@Pellegri
Regarding this situation, I will make a statement one time and further posts will be removed. Had the this scenario been a "tested it once or twice max" situation, we may have considered some leniency. However, we checked logs thoroughly and found that once or twice was definitely not the max. In the spirit of fairness, the same punishment was given to all players who were involved. This decision will not be reversed.
-Moxie
and only 4 SH was banned from what i heard.
so yeah we must have used it as extensively as X did....
w00tz0r
08-26-2010, 10:26 AM
Who can be more butthurt than pellegri and shoe :(
Too bad this handless Shoee didnt count rare maj set +6 that elusory was taking from arcanit :>
Draecke
08-26-2010, 10:29 AM
SH report bug of using TW wards .... after they loosed all :)
Yup fair game :eek:
well if we go by the assumption that the GM/Development team now have enough leads on how to check their logs for this particular abuse it shouldn't be hard to check also previous Months and if that's the case then why are only 4 SH banned for this if they were doing the same thing as X when they had the wards right ?
none of the top clans are saints but it's understandable that once SH found out about it they wanted to make sure their enemies would lose the advantage this exploit was & has been giving them..
L2 on Teon so reminds me of the Cold War with it's ongoing arms (exploit/3rd part soft) race, wtb lot's of Glasnost & Vodka ^^"
WE LOVE THE PERESTROIKA o0
Pellegri
08-26-2010, 10:38 AM
Who can be more butthurt than pellegri and shoe :(
Too bad this handless Shoee didnt count rare maj set +6 that elusory was taking from arcanit :>
and why should I be ?
Loshata
08-26-2010, 10:38 AM
We do not want to discourage people from reporting bugs or potential exploits. We greatly appreciate these types of reports, however, it is not necessary for players to use an exploit in an attempt to verify it before reporting it to us. We do want to discourage players from trying out a bug or exploit they've heard about. As the original post said, we have an outstanding QA team that has a long history of figuring out bugs and exploits with small bits of information. They have many tools at their disposal to figure things out.
Regarding this situation, I will make a statement one time and further posts will be removed. Had the this scenario been a "tested it once or twice max" situation, we may have considered some leniency. However, we checked logs thoroughly and found that once or twice was definitely not the max. In the spirit of fairness, the same punishment was given to all players who were involved. This decision will not be reversed.
-Moxie
There is one thing that I am failing to understand - WHY ARE YOU BANNING EXPLOITERS FOR 2 WEEKS now, and from now on you are going to ban permanently anybody who uses the known exploit? Why? What is the difference between the 100 people who already took advantage from it and somebody who would try to take advantage in the future?
Krissa
08-26-2010, 11:15 AM
Now they are warned.
Ykara
08-26-2010, 12:26 PM
2 of SH that should've been long banned.. are the ones that profited RL money for selling the safe +30 enchant exploit.
Rumour says it was around 10k euro..
w00tz0r
08-26-2010, 01:01 PM
2 of SH that should've been long banned.. are the ones that profited RL money for selling the safe +30 enchant exploit.
Rumour says it was around 10k euro..
Rumour says they were banned 6 months ago.
And another one says they bought a flat for all the money they got, I'd kill them irl! :(
Ykara
08-26-2010, 03:09 PM
Rumour says they were banned 6 months ago.
And another one says they bought a flat for all the money they got, I'd kill them irl! :(
No they weren't.. I saw one of them running around in Rune.. detagged and wearing tallum robe .. not long ago.
Cabbie
08-26-2010, 11:54 PM
/emo drunken rage on
So using an exploit is ok since you only get a 7 to 14 day ban (as stated by people on this forum and on other forums, yet to be confirmed by NCNA staff) - ie, EVERYONE should start using exploits and then when you get the slap on the wrist go and take a RL vacation for a week per NCNA - NCNA, really...that is how you are handling this...
So that has to mean that botting is now 100% accepted (long believed that it has been accepted as long as you do not make a big deal about it in game or on the forums) since that is also against the rules, but NCNA has shown that currently only a slap on the wrist is what they are willing to do - so f it being legit anymore.... since botting/using exploits are only a temp ban... you all will excuse me while I download a few programs and get to level 85 on the main and level 80 on the subs.....
Sace/Moxie - grow a set and tell the new Producer (or we all will on his FB page - he still has yet to lock to down btw...) that this has been an issue with for a long time and to stick his ground with the bans instead of this "wanna be" bans which just piss off the few legit player base.
/emo drunken rage off...
Smittie
08-27-2010, 06:53 AM
Ya. Teon cheaters competing again who can cheat the most.
It's like the serer is full of ppl just experimenting what else they can break in game to get an edge.
It's a very sad sad server.
DarkDrag0n
08-27-2010, 03:58 PM
MMOs aren't supposed to have exploits, and have them fixed as soon as possible... usually within a couple of days. It shouldn't even be a question and known that any unfair advantage is most likely a punishable offense, if abused. It is good when someone finds a bug and reports it without personal gain, to make the game more pure. I don't really feel this whole thread is a good representation of what a good MMO is supposed to be.
ShellShock08
08-29-2010, 12:42 AM
we have an outstanding QA team that has a long history of figuring out bugs and exploits with small bits of information.
Thank goodness after 6 years they finally figured out how to block bot programs. Oh wait, they didn't....
nathar
08-30-2010, 04:06 AM
We were recently alerted to a bug in the Olympiad involving the irregular use of clan skills during Olympiad matches. Those who have used or gained benefit from this bug are being punished. Players who continue to use this bug to gain an unfair advantage will be permanently removed from the game.
The point my dear Sace is that you should have noticed it from the beginning.
How do you expect to have a good service when you don't play your own game...
make a toon...log in Olympiad to see whats going on...
take a couple of GMs and go out for pvp with normal toons to see whats going on...
sercatum
08-30-2010, 05:07 AM
Btw.
I need thank the involved clans for your combined work :)
As result top clans eliminated themselfs from last TW/Sieges :p
Last weekend was very nice.
Instead of rushing to all castles to set up alt clans, they were hiding inside castle praying that no-one take it :D
Again gratz to ALL of you!
Btw.
I need thank the involved clans for your combined work :)
As result top clans eliminated themselfs from last TW/Sieges :p
Last weekend was very nice.
Instead of rushing to all castles to set up alt clans, they were hiding inside castle praying that no-one take it :D
Again gratz to ALL of you!
I always loved a good happy ending. :)
Julie
08-30-2010, 10:46 AM
Btw.
I need thank the involved clans for your combined work :)
As result top clans eliminated themselfs from last TW/Sieges :p
Last weekend was very nice.
Instead of rushing to all castles to set up alt clans, they were hiding inside castle praying that no-one take it :D
Again gratz to ALL of you!
Not really. one clan took giran from one of the involved clans and the other kept dion. Id say the first got what they deserved.
nathar
08-31-2010, 03:08 AM
Not really. one clan took giran from one of the involved clans and the other kept dion. Id say the first got what they deserved.
id say that you play another game...the 1st and the 2nd clan are doing this since wards
appeared. The thing is who petitioned the other in the best possible moment( teon )...
Julie
08-31-2010, 09:30 AM
id say that you play another game...the 1st and the 2nd clan are doing this since wards
appeared. The thing is who petitioned the other in the best possible moment( teon )...
id say im not playing another game since im in one of those clans and im pretty sure i have alot more of a clue of whats going on than you.
nathar
08-31-2010, 09:43 AM
id say im not playing another game since im in one of those clans and im pretty sure i have alot more of a clue of whats going on than you.
im sure about it...you know also about the ranger that synchronizes players target through php scripts...and maybe the no sp/adena +30 enchants? or maybe the duplicated items?
there is no big clan in teon that deserves anything...
Godiva
08-31-2010, 09:56 AM
Now they are warned.
Everyone WAS WARNED from the very beginning about using expoits.
missTyrael
08-31-2010, 10:28 AM
It's too late to fight with all unlegit stuff. Spam start good campain but he come too late and leave too early. So only thing can be done - ban ppl who are visible with using unlegit stuff. But perma ban can be painfull for server and server will lost a lot of players. Like if on server X will be banned Y players from one side and ZZ from second side, server can become 1-side and this will cause him to lost all online. Also the problem is - no chance to catch exact person who make/use bug coz usualy they dont play at all.
Mardonius
09-02-2010, 05:35 PM
Everyone WAS WARNED from the very beginning about using expoits.
You are warned at login every ******* time or is there something I am missing when I click agree?
nathar
09-03-2010, 04:12 AM
Who can be more butthurt than pellegri and shoe :(
Too bad this handless Shoee didnt count rare maj set +6 that elusory was taking from arcanit :>
yea sure SH didn't use wards in olympiad...it was just the rare maj set from arcanit...
i've heard that the rare majestic set of poett is better, and the rare majestic set of
oskits is the best of all...
MaoMao
09-22-2010, 03:23 AM
I mean, why test a bug/exploit when you know there are rumors of its existence? Why you want to test its existence? Doesnt make sense to me....Just ban them all.
It is not that simple. Most of the situations a bug is discoverd happen by accident. And we also dont have clear explanations on how it is supposed to work in some situations.
For example, recently i was trying to delevel my wolf for rb. I was sending it to attack guards randomly in dion because i was deleveling the tank too and was spawning randomly. After a while I discovered that is killed by Harlan, the wolf does not lose exp. This is just silly but, hey, if we are to be that strict, I gained an advantage, the wolf did not lose exp on death, which is a good thing for me and not intended by programmers, therefore I should be banned... I reported the bug, so they know for sure i did it, so, I am as good as gone...
I am not sure one size fits all and I am not sure this talibanistic approach wont discourage some legits, because bots can get away with it since the start of the game here.
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