Player & Staff Focus Chat - May 2011

[Moxie]

Hello All,

I'd like to welcome you to Player & Staff Focus Chat, the first in an ongoing series of threads dedicated to casual, open conversation between players and staff. I will be opening up these threads in the coming months to discuss recent topics of note within our community. Topics may range from heated discussions on the forums to regular chatter we see in-game. This first post might be a little longer than usual, as it's my first opportunity to compile recent activities and open up discussion with you. You may see responses and conversation from many of the staff members in these threads, including myself, Cryo, Sace, HGM Will, and others. Keep in mind, as all threads, we encourage you be honest with us, but still remaining constructive.

To start the thread, I want to give a hearty "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" to the game we all love! In April and May, we offered many ways to celebrate seven years of Lineage II. This included the Letter's Event, seven days of double xp/sp, two separate gift boxes full of seven types of rewards, a subscription promotion to reward players with in-game items, and some fun GM interaction on our actual anniversary day. There was a minor hiccup in delivering all of the subscription promotion rewards, however, we were able to quickly resolve this and get the well deserved rewards into the hands of those who participated! We put a lot of thought into providing you with a celebration worth remembering and I hope you were able to enjoy some of the events of the last several weeks. We were all very excited to share so many great things with you!

You may have heard about our Lineage service closing on June 29. I was very sad when I heard this news. My colleagues who have worked on Lineage over the last couple of years have poured their souls into making the game fun for their players. Many other people have also put a lot of effort into Lineage over the last ten years. With the game closing, I want to express my complete respect to the Lineage Team and all Lineage players for the dedication and spirit they have shown for so long. As players from Lineage II, hearing of this closure may be disheartening and, of course, it's natural to wonder about the state of your own game. Lineage II is not involved in the closure of Lineage in any way and our players have nothing to worry about with this news. There are many great things being planned for Lineage II, including the biggest update in the history of the game, Goddess of Destruction.

I was able to spend quite a bit of time with the development team in Seoul recently, including several hours of play time in the game. I can say that, while there are some big fundamental changes coming, the new additions to our wonderful game world are refreshing, exciting, and most of all, FUN! I will be sharing some of the information I learned during our discussions, and I hope you'll all take some time to learn more about the new chapter in Lineage II history.

Goddess of Destruction has been a big topic for our players recently, both in-game and on the forums. I know that there are translated news pieces available through fansites and from players who can translate Korean. I sincerely appreciate the efforts these individuals make to provide news from the development team and I’m happy to share that we will also be able providing official information on our new Goddess of Destruction website. Keep checking back for regularly added update details, screenshots, videos, and more. In the mean time, if you haven’t read it yet, we have put up our Q&A session we had with the Development Team, based on questions submitted directly from our own community! Be sure to check it out (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=216011)!

But enough from me! Let's open up discussion! I look forward to hearing any questions, comments, or concerns you may have. If you'd like a specific topic included in the next thread, please let us know.

-Moxie

[Laby]

Hello Moxie :)

First, I think it's a great idea to make such threads, it could be very interesting for both players and staff members :D

I would like to start with a "neutral" topic on this thread :) Everybody may know that you play Lineage II as normal character, even if you don't have a lot of free time for playing. May be more staff members play more than others.

I just would like to know, what do you (you = all the staff members, including GM, Quality ) like the most as player, and what do you dislike too. And what is the hardest thing you did ingame (a raid / world boss, getting a specific items, stoling Will's pants) ?

May be I didn't get the main topic of this thread and idea, but it seems for me that this one is open to free questions :)

Cheers !

[Untagged]

I sincerely appreciate the efforts these individuals make to provide news from the development team and I’m happy to share that we will also be able providing official information on our new Goddess of Destruction website. Keep checking back for regularly added update details, screenshots, videos, and more.-Moxie
I dont want to be rude, but if you only update the site once a month and drag it out for 8 months ( 1 class every month according to Sace), then checking regularly will only result in disappoinment. the site should be updated weekly. if you dont have the resources to do this at your offices, there are a lot of talented people on these forums that would love to help out. perhaps its time you tapped into the limitless enthusiasm of the no-lifers here and get a respectable GoD website put up for people to properly hate on.

[Moxie]

Hello Moxie :)

First, I think it's a great idea to make such threads, it could be very interesting for both players and staff members

I would like to start with a "neutral" topic on this thread Everybody may know that you play Lineage II as normal character, even if you don't have a lot of free time for playing. May be more staff members play more than others.

I just would like to know, what do you (you = all the staff members, including GM, Quality ) like the most as player, and what do you dislike too. And what is the hardest thing you did ingame (a raid / world boss, getting a specific items, stoling Will's pants) ?

May be I didn't get the main topic of this thread and idea, but it seems for me that this one is open to free questions :)

Cheers !

Hi Laby,

Yes, pretty much everyone players interact with do play real characters on the live servers. We're no different from everyone else when it comes to real life responsibilities, so some of us are able to spend a lot more time in game than others. Myself, Sace, Cryo, HGM Will, Pommo, Sparse, and even the QA team, play on a regular basis on the live servers. Many of our internal discussions are results of what we encounter during regular play.

Dislikes: This is such a small thing, but when hunting in fields in a party, I strongly dislike people who pick up my MP herbs, as I play an EE. It also makes me "GRRR" outloud when two Superior MP herbs drop at the same time. :p

Likes: This isn't really related to game play, but one of my favorite things to encounter are people who are genuinely nice and caring in the game. It happens a lot, actually, where strangers will go out of their way to do something nice or be helpful. (Getting help with recs, random resurrections, help with a bad pull, sharing of hunting grounds, etc.) I believe we have a great community of players in Lineage II.

Difficult (Mentally): When I did the Wondrous Cubic quest, I wanted to complete it entirely by myself, just to see what the experience was like. I hadn't fished other than when I was testing in QA and it was much easier to fish in QA! I figured out how to do everything myself and by the end of it, I was pretty frustrated. Fishing level, fishing items, quests, fishing shot quest, then actually doing the fishing myself to get be able to complete the "Special Order" quest for the cubic... I couldn't even bring myself to get a few extra fish to sell at the end of it all.

Also, I'm not allowed to talk about anyones pants. :rolleyes:

-Moxie

[Moxie]

I dont want to be rude, but if you only update the site once a month and drag it out for 8 months ( 1 class every month according to Sace), then checking regularly will only result in disappoinment. the site should be updated weekly. if you dont have the resources to do this at your offices, there are a lot of talented people on these forums that would love to help out. perhaps its time you tapped into the limitless enthusiasm of the no-lifers here and get a respectable GoD website put up for people to properly hate on.

Hi Untagged,

The Goddess of Destruction preview site is probably not something that hardcore players will be visiting regularly, as some of the information there will already be available on devoted fansites. As we roll out more content, our goal is to dig deeper into the content and provide a single, official preview site for fans to reference.

In regards to L2 players working on the site, our Interactive Services Team has several job openings here in the Seattle offices. You can see job postings here (http://us.ncsoft.com/en/jobs/seattle.html). If you know of someone that might fit one of these positions, please encourage them to apply!

-Moxie

[Laby]

And do you sometime do party with only Staff members ? Any duels ? =D

And what are the fansite you read the most ? :)

[Retribution]

Moxie,

I was wondering if the discussion of game economics came up during your trip to Korea. As you've undoubtedly seen, there is an on-going and heated debate about whether or not there are too many adena sinks and not enough adena drops in the game. I tend to lean toward the stance that these sinks were put in the game in response to all of the adena that was being generated by the pve bots, and with their recent demise, adena is not in the great supply it used to be, so these adena sinks are now removing too much of the money in game. Of course no changes will be made before GOD, but I would like to know if the Koreans were aware of the issue.

On a side note, are the remaining events planned between now and the GOD update going to be more focused on money/items or on xp/sp?

[Cabbie]

There are many great things being planned for Lineage II, including...



http://www.exquisitecrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/noooo-1.jpg

that is what Nyz said a few weeks before L1 announced that they were shutting down...

/I have extra tin foil hats if anyone needs some...

I will have to say that with you being in the the "Producer" position you have posted more on the forums then all of the people before you... I hope this trend continues.

[Moxie]

And do you sometime do party with only Staff members ? Any duels ? =D

And what are the fansite you read the most ? :)

I play with employee groups and with regular play groups from pickups for Kama's to clan groups. It's definitely easier to play with the people on my immediate team, as we can coordinate play times and communicate a lot easier, but we also understand the importance of being involved directly with the game.

I try to keep an eye on the more active fansites and message boards and occasionally check-in on community boards for other territories as well.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

Moxie,

I was wondering if the discussion of game economics came up during your trip to Korea. As you've undoubtedly seen, there is an on-going and heated debate about whether or not there are too many adena sinks and not enough adena drops in the game. I tend to lean toward the stance that these sinks were put in the game in response to all of the adena that was being generated by the pve bots, and with their recent demise, adena is not in the great supply it used to be, so these adena sinks are now removing too much of the money in game. Of course no changes will be made before GOD, but I would like to know if the Koreans were aware of the issue.

On a side note, are the remaining events planned between now and the GOD update going to be more focused on money/items or on xp/sp?

We did not specifically discuss the topic as you have explained, but we did discuss the negative experience some players have when they spend the majority of their character life broke and unable to afford gear when they move up. The Development Team noted that they understood this and noted that some of the changes regarding drops should address that negative experience.

We are paying close attention to the Korean PTS (as well as participating) and have regular communication with the Dev team to understand how things are going. I don't believe this last round of PTS really gave a good picture in regards to your question, as the intention of the PTS was to get feedback on the Awakening quest specifically.

In regards to events, we have a few events that will allow players to make some Adena if they choose. We'll share more information once those get closer on the schedule.

-Moxie

[Retribution]

I play with employee groups and with regular play groups from pickups for Kama's to clan groups. It's definitely easier to play with the people on my immediate team, as we can coordinate play times and communicate a lot easier, but we also understand the importance of being involved directly with the game.

I try to keep an eye on the more active fansites and message boards and occasionally check-in on community boards for other territories as well.

-Moxie

God, I hope I haven't PK'd you out of a spot... More importantly, I hope I didn't PK Sace out of hers (though that WOULD explain the infractions lol) :D

[Cabbie]

God, I hope I haven't PK'd you out of a spot... More importantly, I hope I didn't PK Sace out of hers (though that WOULD explain the infractions lol) :D

That only happens if you get an PM in game saying "good luck posting.."

/kidding...

[__Terry__]

I would like to ask why is so dificult to NCNA to advertise about l2 arround the countries that are under your responsability, also why is almost impossible to find l2 products like game boxes, those model statues etc? We can´t even buy them at plaync.

Here in Brazil i can find Aion game boxes everywhere but not a single l2 box.

[Moxie]

It's difficult to find Lineage II game boxes because we haven't made one in several years. The cost of creating and distributing the game boxes for each major update ended up not being in our best interest. There are a few exceptions for some countries, like Greece, where we create special disc packages because we know the difficulty in some places around the world for downloading large updates. The boxes that you do find in stores now are likely from the last box run, which I believe were the 4th Anniversary boxes.

As for advertising, there are budget needs for a decent campaign. While we haven't had much flexibility in the past, we are in the midst of using some creative solutions to make some moves in this area. We believe that the Goddess of Destruction update is going to bring positive changes to Lineage II and we want to let people know!

-Moxie

[Laby]

Did any of the staff member experienced and saw programs users (bots for xp or pvp) as player one day ? I mean, you actually see them / pvp them / kill them or anything like that ?

[DodgeThis]

Hello Moxie,

In the high five update notes there was major changes inside olympiad, who also included a feature to be more "balanced", meaning, players with high points will fight players with high points and the low point ppl will get also low point ppl in order for all of us to have fun. Is this feature not working/not implemented ?

Also there is a bug sometimes that certain classes that have summon port inside olympiad without their pet, pet remaining in town.

And last thing about the valakas/beleth raids, is it possible to get GM surveillance while we do these raids in order to see what is happening and why so many ppl get crit error inside, making us unable to complete the raid ? We have done this on PTS server with you, i am wondering if it is possible same thing on live servers.

[Desert_Eagle]

Dear NCsoft Staff!
What do you think about game servers life-cycle:
-Nostalgi server(s) with old chronics? Which update most probable to run on? What is overall possibility of such server(s) creation?
-New game server(s) in EU/NA after GoD live?
-New 'Alt' game server each year or two, merging into 'Main' game server at the end of this period (repeating creation-merge-creation cycle)?

Thank you for such kind of topic existence.

[Dreamer]

Did any of the staff member experienced and saw programs users (bots for xp or pvp) as player one day ? I mean, you actually see them / pvp them / kill them or anything like that ?

Hello Moxie,

this is actually some i wanna know why we NEVER get any word from NC about the pvp bots?
They are one of the main reasons for a sinking player base. And it makes it rly sad that NC looks in the other direction to not see it.

And as for advertising:

Even some small ones at Game Conventions, or some Gaming magazines would help a lot.
There is still a more then huge playerbase outside that never rly heared about L2 / the Vit/xp changes.

[Rosalina]

I'd like to ask about the general trend for updates from Korea coming to US/EU many months after their intial release.

While I understand of course there may be a large amount of text to translate in the game, and I note it was appreciated that High5 wasn't done in 5 different parts (like I think it was in Korea), I would like to ask if there have been any alterations or changes in how you guys can build a client from the Korean base compared to previous updates. Is this time-shift something that is improved upon over time? Do you rely on one or a couple of ncsoft translators based in korea to do the largest bulk of the translation work? It would be interesting and informative to the players if they understood your processes.

[AndreasK]

I really like the idea behind this thread. It will imrpove understanding and communication between community and staff.

In order for this to work, I believe that you need to set an agenda Moxie. Locate certain "heated" subects, come up yourself or ask community for suggestions and try to move forward solutions. I think that this thread should be more than everyone venting out his frustration; it should produce results (within the given authority of NC west of course).

[blondbeauty]

+1 for your idea and effort moxie!
All of my questions have been asked from ppl that posted before me and most of them got answered and i hope the rest will be answered when you relog.
This seems one of the best efforts of the staff to interact with us and i am sad that i live in greece or i would try for some of the job spots you mentioned above :P (chance to meet Sace in real oooohhhh i cant forget her face from the video i am in love :P :P)

[wasted]

hello,

i understand and encouraging your efforts u doing vs exp bots..



but when u ll able all there to reallise that the game's health suffer more than all those years from pvp programms?



why while u still fighting vs exp bots u dont do anything at all vs pvp bots?



why u pretend that u are doing your best vs pvp bots war,but we all know that u just simple close your eyes?




why u thing im gona believe u/sace/hgmwill or any other staff member that u monitoring/working vs pvp bots?




why to believe that this condition gona change?u dont show me any good will.




have u ever realise that ppl are angry/mad about pvp programms,even those who used them?the condition in game is rly sick
why u avoiding always to give a 100% heart answer about why this happen?(i mean close eyes)
have u ever ask koreas help to block pvp progs?
does korea know what is really happening here,or only what "u at ncwest" telll them?myths and fairytales that all running properly..
why u ask on Lineage II Bi-Annual Player Census (https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?hl=en&formkey=dEtEZm5HN1lMSTRRa2Z3eW5FNmRidlE6MQ#gid=0) for the block of pvp programms?u think that ppl want them?u think that the problem is small?if ppl vote allow them,what gona happen?




have u ever realise that not all ppl here have low intelligence?we are not all orcs!

i know im nostalgic and maybe stupid for a lot of u that reading my post,cause that i ask is something similar to ask from usa/china/france etc to stop using nuclears but....

when u gona give me back the ability to enjoy again this game?

[Balduu]

hello,

i understand and encouraging your efforts u doing vs exp bots..



but when u ll able all there to reallise that the game's health suffer more than all those years from pvp programms?



why while u still fighting vs exp bots u dont do anything at all vs pvp bots?



why u pretend that u are doing your best vs pvp bots war,but we all know that u just simple close your eyes?




why u thing im gona believe u/sace/hgmwill or any other staff member that u monitoring/working vs pvp bots?




why to believe that this condition gona change?u dont show me any good will.




have u ever realise that ppl are angry/mad about pvp programms,even those who used them?the condition in game is rly sick
why u avoiding always to give a 100% heart answer about why this happen?(i mean close eyes)
have u ever ask koreas help to block pvp progs?
does korea know what is really happening here,or only what "u at ncwest" telll them?myths and fairytales that all running properly..
why u ask on Lineage II Bi-Annual Player Census (https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?hl=en&formkey=dEtEZm5HN1lMSTRRa2Z3eW5FNmRidlE6MQ#gid=0) for the block of pvp programms?u think that ppl want them?u think that the problem is small?if ppl vote allow them,what gona happen?




have u ever realise that not all ppl here have low intelligence?we are not all orcs!

i know im nostalgic and maybe stupid for a lot of u that reading my post,cause that i ask is something similar to ask from usa/china/france etc to stop using nuclears but....

when u gona give me back the ability to enjoy again this game?

Depends on what is "enjoying L2" for you?
L2 got SO many things to do and to enjoy and everyone does have his/her own favourite things to do.

Just by the way, ever thought about how these programs work? The only possibility to go fully and totally against it is giving them to every for free and legalize them ingame.
It is not just simply a GM goes ingame and bans some ppl who APPARENTLY are using a PvP program. You know spamming CP can be done with reflexes too, so NCsoft bans ppl who didnt do *** but are utterly pro at spamming CP. (I know its absurd but care, its not impossible)
These programs are (from what I know) not even connecting to the game server making it even harder.
Of course some tests can be made but only if someone is rly abusing that program SO hard that its already too obvious to be called random.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not for those programs either but you cant just tell them to bann them already and stop asking stupid questions. I'm sure if there was such an easy solution NCsoft would've already implemented it.

@ontopic:
Overall a great idea but imo. you should start speaking about 1-2 major topics which are being discussed atm and then ask the players community what they think/want/hate, cuz atm. the thread is too chaotic. (Example for such a topic is atm GoD, Adena Sinks, L2 Microtrans. shop).
A OFFICIAL statement on some of those topics would GREATLY help and I think most would agree with me on this point.

[NoOne]

hello,

i understand and encouraging your efforts u doing vs exp bots..



but when u ll able all there to reallise that the game's health suffer more than all those years from pvp programms?



why while u still fighting vs exp bots u dont do anything at all vs pvp bots?



why u pretend that u are doing your best vs pvp bots war,but we all know that u just simple close your eyes?




why u thing im gona believe u/sace/hgmwill or any other staff member that u monitoring/working vs pvp bots?




why to believe that this condition gona change?u dont show me any good will.




have u ever realise that ppl are angry/mad about pvp programms,even those who used them?the condition in game is rly sick
why u avoiding always to give a 100% heart answer about why this happen?(i mean close eyes)
have u ever ask koreas help to block pvp progs?
does korea know what is really happening here,or only what "u at ncwest" telll them?myths and fairytales that all running properly..
why u ask on Lineage II Bi-Annual Player Census (https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?hl=en&formkey=dEtEZm5HN1lMSTRRa2Z3eW5FNmRidlE6MQ#gid=0) for the block of pvp programms?u think that ppl want them?u think that the problem is small?if ppl vote allow them,what gona happen?




have u ever realise that not all ppl here have low intelligence?we are not all orcs!

i know im nostalgic and maybe stupid for a lot of u that reading my post,cause that i ask is something similar to ask from usa/china/france etc to stop using nuclears but....

when u gona give me back the ability to enjoy again this game?

lf answer on that also
the best part of this game(PVP) is destroyed by programs like l2ranger and is not like few ppl are using it...almost everyone who is pvping is using at least cp spam..let's dont speak about complicated scripts




It is not just simply a GM goes ingame and bans some ppl who APPARENTLY are using a PvP program. You know spamming CP can be done with reflexes too, so NCsoft bans ppl who didnt do *** but are utterly pro at spamming CP. (I know its absurd but care, its not impossible)
These programs are (from what I know) not even connecting to the game server making it even harder.
Of course some tests can be made but only if someone is rly abusing that program SO hard that its already too obvious to be called random.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not for those programs either but you cant just tell them to bann them already and stop asking stupid questions. I'm sure if there was such an easy solution NCsoft would've already implemented it.

@ontopic:
Overall a great idea but imo. you should start speaking about 1-2 major topics which are being discussed atm and then ask the players community what they think/want/hate, cuz atm. the thread is too chaotic. (Example for such a topic is atm GoD, Adena Sinks, L2 Microtrans. shop).
A OFFICIAL statement on some of those topics would GREATLY help and I think most would agree with me on this point.

that kind of programs can be easy stoped with strong anty-bot system
if privates servers can do that ,then i think Ncsoft can also

[Dreamer]

There is a LARGE grey area between "can" and "want"
Pretty sure the answer will be as usually: "soon" from NC or simply nothing.

[Balduu]

that kind of programs can be easy stoped with strong anty-bot system
if privates servers can do that ,then i think Ncsoft can also

Too bad barely any private server does have a working Anti-PvP prog. protection.
Mainly thats because the here used program (which should be namely known) is (probably) focusing more on retail.
As soon as NCsoft updates GameGuard or any other protection it'll take the creator of the mentioned program a few days maximum to get it back working.
The effort and money NCSoft would be paying to keep on updating against those programs is most likely too much for them or not even do-able.

[Spudnik]

you all thought i was crazy to have roundtable discussions with NA team.

HA

i have nothing else to say except this: Moxie et al - kudos to you lot for reading and lurking and hearing the voiced concerns even if it isnt actually acknowledged. you have made the current experience a helluva lot better than the previous years, and the events seem to be following that trend. my one suggestion to you all is to be less bureaucratic in language and posting. its all well and good to have a CM and hidden GM team with no posts but i'm sure you can appreciate that without at least some input or replies when someone asks for a GM it looks worse to simply lock and move, rather than reply with something and help the situation out.

the rules say the GM calling out threads will not be met with response but after all this time and with so much change happening do you not think it is time to suspend that rule and actually voice your own concerns?

i mean for a company who produces this game should it not be priority to address the issues players face, that cannot ordinarily be addressed by other players?

@Balduu: Too bad barely any private server does have a working Anti-PvP prog. protection.

the trouble with saying that is you kinda have to know what youre talking about. take it from a person who has played enough of them - i can say its very very easy to block bots, especially as so many servers are java coded. i would venture to say theres a lot more than "few" of these servers taking those steps. this is just my own experience, i am sure other players who havent spun in my circles will know and say differently.

[Krissa]

Dislikes: This is such a small thing, but when hunting in fields in a party, I strongly dislike people who pick up my MP herbs, as I play an EE. It also makes me "GRRR" outloud when two Superior MP herbs drop at the same time. :p
We will need to bring you to a Dragon Valley party :D

It's difficult to find Lineage II game boxes because we haven't made one in several years. The cost of creating and distributing the game boxes for each major update ended up not being in our best interest. There are a few exceptions for some countries, like Greece, where we create special disc packages because we know the difficulty in some places around the world for downloading large updates. The boxes that you do find in stores now are likely from the last box run, which I believe were the 4th Anniversary boxes.
Why is it not possible to buy the serial code from the official site (ncsoft.com)? Have they removed the wrong game (Lineage 2 instead of Lineage) from the shop? :rolleyes:

Also, don't you plan to relax the payment options for L2? Make the serial code available for more countries, allow PayPal payment for Euro accounts... or maybe just remove the differences between US and Euro accounts altogether?

[Moxie]

Did any of the staff member experienced and saw programs users (bots for xp or pvp) as player one day ? I mean, you actually see them / pvp them / kill them or anything like that ?

Yes, we have witnessed them. For the most part, we just /report as normal. Sometimes I will send a follow-up mail to the GM's to let them know. I also test and send reports for bots I find when I am online for events and to observe various reports. I don't personally remove them from game, as it's important for the GM team to keep the process clean. The only time I tend to intervene directly is when I see gold spammers in towns. I will mute them or move them to the GM room and alert the GM team.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

Dear NCsoft Staff!
What do you think about game servers life-cycle:
-Nostalgi server(s) with old chronics? Which update most probable to run on? What is overall possibility of such server(s) creation?
-New game server(s) in EU/NA after GoD live?
-New 'Alt' game server each year or two, merging into 'Main' game server at the end of this period (repeating creation-merge-creation cycle)?

Thank you for such kind of topic existence.

Unfortunately, we will not be running servers with different versions on them.

The main reason for this is the difficulty in managing several different servers with different versions. We currently have QA servers, PTS servers, Live servers, patch servers, and Auth servers. For each live server, we need a QA server that has the exact same version, which we use to test bug reports. When we receive newer builds from the development team, we use another QA server to test/confirm. The PTS version is somewhere between Live and QA, depending on when we push the updates to the live servers. We also have authentication servers for each of these environments, which we have to maintain just like any other piece of hardware. There's also maintenance of database servers for each environment.

If we wanted to run servers with different versions, we would essentially need to have the same setup for each version. Not to mention, we wouldn't be able to get support from the Development team for old versions, so if there were a major issue with one of them, there isn't a lot we could do about it.

I hope that helps in understanding why we stick with the latest version from the Development team.

-Moxie

[Balduu]

@Balduu:

the trouble with saying that is you kinda have to know what youre talking about. take it from a person who has played enough of them - i can say its very very easy to block bots, especially as so many servers are java coded. i would venture to say theres a lot more than "few" of these servers taking those steps. this is just my own experience, i am sure other players who havent spun in my circles will know and say differently.

Of course you're right with saying L2j and L2off server are different. Though the point is if you would make the work testing out the protection of every server just to bypass it if many many customers are from retail anyways?
But we better dont get offtopic too much again, no need for another bot thread :D

I'd like to hear moxies opinion about it tho and not some useless "soon" or "is being worked on" comment.

[wasted]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not for those programs either but you cant just tell them to bann them already and stop asking stupid questions.

@ontopic:
Overall a great idea but imo. you should start speaking about 1-2 major topics which are being discussed atm and then ask the players community what they think/want/hate, cuz atm. the thread is too chaotic. (Example for such a topic is atm GoD, Adena Sinks, L2 Microtrans. shop).
A OFFICIAL statement on some of those topics would GREATLY help and I think most would agree with me on this point.
i dont think that is stupid question,i have the free speach to write whaterver i want,allthought i think that stupid questions is for GOD and all microtransations things.how u want to step up the game without solving the major problems?

There is a LARGE grey area between "can" and "want"
Pretty sure the answer will be as usually: "soon" from NC or simply nothing.
pretty sure the answer will not be as always,or it will come in a pathetic way as happen all this time

[Cryo]

In the high five update notes there was major changes inside olympiad, who also included a feature to be more "balanced", meaning, players with high points will fight players with high points and the low point ppl will get also low point ppl in order for all of us to have fun. Is this feature not working/not implemented ?

I have been monitoring this new feature and it is working as intended. This system is working best when the number of participants in the queue is high as it is easier for the system to find perfect matches. At the low peak of the Olympiad, usually during the week when the Olympiad starts or ends, there are less players in the queue hence it's harder for the system to match players with similar amount of points, so you may end up with a difficult match (or too easy).
It is not ideal but it is a lot better than previously. I have also heard that this feature has been refined in Godess of Destruction based on the data the development team has gathered since its introduction in High-Five.

Also there is a bug sometimes that certain classes that have summon port inside olympiad without their pet, pet remaining in town.
We have reported this issue to the development team and are actively monitoring the progress being made to fix it. As soon as we have something more concrete we'll let you know.

And last thing about the valakas/beleth raids, is it possible to get GM surveillance while we do these raids in order to see what is happening and why so many ppl get crit error inside, making us unable to complete the raid ? We have done this on PTS server with you, i am wondering if it is possible same thing on live servers.

Feel free to pm Moxie or me with the date/time of your raid and we'll make every effort to be there. But also please note that our schedule may not permit us to attend due to work constraints.

[Moxie]

I'd like to ask about the general trend for updates from Korea coming to US/EU many months after their intial release.

While I understand there may be a large amount of text to translate in the game, and I note it was appreciated that High5 wasn't done in 5 different parts (like I think it was in Korea), I would like to ask if there have been any alterations or changes in how you guys can build a client from the Korean base compared to previous updates. Is this time-shift something that is improved upon over time? Do you rely on one or a couple of ncsoft translators based in korea to do the largest bulk of the translation work? It would be interesting and informative to the players if they understood your processes.

This is actually something I have wanted to shed light on for awhile. We see comments from time to time about how easy it should be to just translate the game and launch it. Unfortunately, it isn't that easy.

The first part of this process is translation. We receive files for translation on a regular basis. These translations can take anywhere from a few days to 6 months, depending on how much text has changed or been added to the game. The actual translation is probably much larger than you can realize. After translation, we normally have some time to edit and localize the files before sending them back to the Development team to be added to a build for us.

The next step is receiving the build from the development team. As each territory is a little different (settings, language, features), it takes the Devs some time to prepare, confirm, and deliver the QA builds for new updates to each territory. Once the build is received, our QA team begins working to verify the patch notes. Our QA team spends time verifying patch notes for a few reasons.

Verify translation of patch notes is correct and explains the change/addition appropriately.
Learn about all changes in order to share accurate information with NCWest L2 Teams.
Verify all features are working as intended, and note where bugs exist so we can inform players.


Some of these steps have just started reaching players in the last year or so, as we have been sharing full patch notes and known issues lists not only for all updates, but also for regular weekly maintenance so players are informed.

Once QA has completed their testing, we almost always request one last build to correct any localization or major bugs. From there, the build is pushed to PTS for a predetermined amount of time, and then finally pushed to Live. It's basically the same process for small, weekly fixes and for large updates. The only difference here is the amount of time it takes to go through all of the steps, which is determined by the size of the update.

The process has stayed relatively the same. Setting schedules is a delicate balance between bringing the newest updates to our players and making sure we fully understand everything that is being delivered, with few surprises. As many veterans know, there are times when things are added or removed from the game that may not be documented. We try to verify these things as quickly as possible, however, this is a natural part of game development. More specifically, publishing a game that is developed by another team entirely. We work our best to make the experience as fun as possible for everyone!

-Moxie

[Syndella]

Moxie, I would like to know if you think NCsoft is going to try to remarket the game with the launch of GoD to attract many new players or if Lineage 2 in the West is more or less a closed topic for NCsoft...

I know you said you will try some more marketing things with the GoD update but what is NCsofts take on this - do they intend to revive it or basically let it run it's course?

And when I say "NCsoft" I mean the Korean headquarters that are in charge of funding the specific branches like NCsoft West (right?)

[NoOne]

Can u guys approximate the release date of GoD?

[blondbeauty]

This is what i know from my little knowledge over programing and understood throughmy years of playtime. Given bulk and not as a representative

@NoOne Baldur

Most privates if not all nowdays run L2 in java emulator enviroment which makes them able to alter some coding to their interests. Its also botable but who will give his time for such servers though nowdays some have really big database of active ppl.

A bulk schematic of how bots used to run/ run now days/ and humans.

Human

Human ( eye (from visual interface) hand and brain coordination) <-> Interface game (layers unable to determine) <-> server side

Older exp progs

Human ( eye (from visual interface) hand and brain coordination) <-> Interface game (layers unable to determine) <-> Bot platform <-> server side

Pvp sniffer progs

Human ( eye (from visual interface) hand and brain coordination) <-> Interface game which is a set of layers the last of them is the visual that u see so {last layer...layers... sniffer(able to affect packs so they seem to came from last layer yet sniffs packs from first layer so it can react so fast)... first layer <-> server side

Differences

A human reacts only to the last layer which to create your pc has to put up with the bottleneck of the animation engine that L2 uses aka lags on sieges or when many ppl are interacting and have to obey restricions of time per action created through the layers

Pvp sniffer reacts to the coded packs sent to you to the first layer aka it can see who is targeting you, react 0 latency to counter attack an opposing hit and be able to use skills faster as minimum restrictions apply to that layer. Also u can only check it from the outcome of its action and not easy to actualy find it working.

Sorry for bad English if someone can privide a more appropriate explanation its welcome to correct me and do so.

[unknowndancer]

Moxie
What do you think: free-to-play business model for lineage 2 is good or bad?
Do you have a plans for creating ingame script event which is unique for eu/na lineage 2? Last year we have localised korean script events only.

[Balduu]

This is what i know from my little knowledge over programing and understood throughmy years of playtime. Given bulk and not as a representative

@NoOne Baldur

Most privates if not all nowdays run L2 in java emulator enviroment which makes them able to alter some coding to their interests. Its also botable but who will give his time for such servers though nowdays some have really big database of active ppl.

A bulk schematic of how bots used to run/ run now days/ and humans.

Human

Human ( eye (from visual interface) hand and brain coordination) <-> Interface game (layers unable to determine) <-> server side

Older exp progs

Human ( eye (from visual interface) hand and brain coordination) <-> Interface game (layers unable to determine) <-> Bot platform <-> server side

Pvp sniffer progs

Human ( eye (from visual interface) hand and brain coordination) <-> Interface game which is a set of layers the last of them is the visual that u see so {last layer...layers... sniffer(able to affect packs so they seem to came from last layer yet sniffs packs from first layer so it can react so fast)... first layer <-> server side

Differences

A human reacts only to the last layer which to create your pc has to put up with the bottleneck of the animation engine that L2 uses aka lags on sieges or when many ppl are interacting and have to obey restricions of time per action created through the layers

Pvp sniffer reacts to the coded packs sent to you to the first layer aka it can see who is targeting you, react 0 latency to counter attack an opposing hit and be able to use skills faster as minimum restrictions apply to that layer. Also u can only check it from the outcome of its action and not easy to actualy find it working.

Sorry for bad English if someone can privide a more appropriate explanation its welcome to correct me and do so.

Ye to pretty much keep it short its reading and "showing" (radar etc.) you the hidden packets which ur client/pc receives but you cant see.
But lets not get off topic nao :p

[Moxie]

In regards to PvP cheaters, we know there is a difference between regular farm bots and those who use PvP cheat programs. These users have not seen as much of an impact as the farm bots have, however, this is actually a big topic of discussion for us right now. I won't be able to share any details, but please know that it is something we are beginning to address. I would like you to think of the results we saw when we took a hard approach to the farm bots and please know that we hope to have the same results relating to PvP cheaters.

On that note, I want to remind everyone that it IS a violation of our user agreement to use these types of programs and you can and will be banned for these actions.

-Moxie

[blondbeauty]

Ye to pretty much keep it short its reading and "showing" (radar etc.) you the hidden packets which ur client/pc receives but you cant see.
But lets not get off topic nao :p

Ye pretty much :P :P sorry for offtopic

[Moxie]

I really like the idea behind this thread. It will imrpove understanding and communication between community and staff.

In order for this to work, I believe that you need to set an agenda Moxie. Locate certain "heated" subects, come up yourself or ask community for suggestions and try to move forward solutions. I think that this thread should be more than everyone venting out his frustration; it should produce results (within the given authority of NC west of course).

Hi AndreasK,

I think going forward, we will try to stick to a few set topics/agenda items. As this is the first thread, I'm okay with having more generalized questions. It is a new opportunity for discussion and I'll encourage everyone to try really hard to keep the thread productive.

I see it's getting a little flamey in here and I really do not want to moderate posts here. Let's set a precedent of keeping it clean!

-Moxie

[Krissa]

I won't be able to share any details, but please know that it is something we are beginning to address. I would like you to think of the results we saw when we took a hard approach to the farm bots and please know that we hope to have the same results relating to PvP cheaters.
Please consider testing them in their natural habitat. The artificial tests (for example, dropping their CP when no one around is even flagged) are close to useless against a semi-decent script writer.

[Moxie]

Why is it not possible to buy the serial code from the official site (ncsoft.com)? Have they removed the wrong game (Lineage 2 instead of Lineage) from the shop? :rolleyes:

Also, don't you plan to relax the payment options for L2? Make the serial code available for more countries, allow PayPal payment for Euro accounts... or maybe just remove the differences between US and Euro accounts altogether?

I'm not sure why you are unable to buy a serial code from our site. I see the option myself. It could possibly be related to location, if there are restrictions in place. I can check on this. If you do not see the option (https://secure.ncsoft.com/cgi-bin/Store.pl?dnv=6989214014&action=toggleCategory&category=5), can you let me know what country you are in? Or if I'm misunderstanding, please clarify for me. :)

As for additional payment options, there are several payment options available. I inquired with the appropriate team previously to see about opening up PayPal for European accounts. Unfortunately, there were high levels of fraud associated with these transactions. However, this was quite awhile ago. I will check with that team again to see if it might be a better time to consider it.

-Moxie

[Laby]

In regards to PvP cheaters, we know there is a difference between regular farm bots and those who use PvP cheat programs. These users have not seen as much of an impact as the farm bots have, however, this is actually a big topic of discussion for us right now. I won't be able to share any details, but please know that it is something we are beginning to address. I would like you to think of the results we saw when we took a hard approach to the farm bots and please know that we hope to have the same results relating to PvP cheaters.

On that note, I want to remind everyone that it IS a violation of our user agreement to use these types of programs and you can and will be banned for these actions.

-Moxie

I love this comment, +1

Quicky question about translation : Who does them ? Do any of you speak and read korean at seattle ? Do you use an offline company ? :) Sace told me there are few translators inside NCSoft builind, do you rely on them exclusively ?

[wasted]

amen,finaly an answer about pvp cheater :)

i want that this must be the bigest discion subject on your offices!!

however another question:

are u planing/possible to change the game engine cause is to old/heavy for everyone no matter what pc u have,even if this engine is diference than korea's?

[NoOne]

In regards to PvP cheaters, we know there is a difference between regular farm bots and those who use PvP cheat programs. These users have not seen as much of an impact as the farm bots have, however, this is actually a big topic of discussion for us right now. I won't be able to share any details, but please know that it is something we are beginning to address. I would like you to think of the results we saw when we took a hard approach to the farm bots and please know that we hope to have the same results relating to PvP cheaters.

On that note, I want to remind everyone that it IS a violation of our user agreement to use these types of programs and you can and will be banned for these actions.

-Moxie

In my opinion pvp bots have bigger impact in game than farm bots.
Pvp is the most fun part of this game and is just killed by programs.
Even only cp spam is very big advantage for some1 who is using vs some1 wich is not.
I rly hope ncsoft will do smt about that in the near future so the game will be playable for all.

[Moxie]

I love this comment, +1

Quicky question about translation : Who does them ? Do any of you speak and read korean at seattle ? Do you use an offline company ? :)

We have several people who speak and read Korean here in Seattle, however, the larger translation projects must be sent to another company. The in-house team members assist us with day to day communication and smaller projects.

-Moxie

[Balduu]

In regards to PvP cheaters, we know there is a difference between regular farm bots and those who use PvP cheat programs. These users have not seen as much of an impact as the farm bots have, however, this is actually a big topic of discussion for us right now. I won't be able to share any details, but please know that it is something we are beginning to address. I would like you to think of the results we saw when we took a hard approach to the farm bots and please know that we hope to have the same results relating to PvP cheaters.

On that note, I want to remind everyone that it IS a violation of our user agreement to use these types of programs and you can and will be banned for these actions.

-Moxie

Thaank you. Lets see when it'll take place and in how far.

[Krissa]

I'm not sure why you are unable to buy a serial code from our site. I see the option myself. It could possibly be related to location, if there are restrictions in place. I can check on this. If you do not see the option (https://secure.ncsoft.com/cgi-bin/Store.pl?dnv=6989214014&action=toggleCategory&category=5), can you let me know what country you are in? Or if I'm misunderstanding, please clarify for me. :)
When I follow your link, I see "Lineage(R)" and "Buy from these retailers: (GameStop, Fry's etc.)". I'm behind the corporate firewall that currently gives me an external IP address from Schaumburg, IL (USA)

[Moxie]

When I follow your link, I see "Lineage(R)" and "Buy from these retailers: (GameStop, Fry's etc.)". I'm behind the corporate firewall that currently gives me an external IP address from Schaumburg, IL.

That is actually really weird. I will check with some people to see if they know why that is happening.

-Moxie

[Kalinia]

Wow! Many kudos to Moxie for this thread, I actually never expected this! So, I should've asked that on the dev Q&A thread but anyway, are there any plans to update the engine so that we get better graphics and performance?

Thank you!

Kali

[Laby]

Hey, a new question again =D

What is the hardest thing concerning the cooperation between Seoul and Seattle ? Do you cooperate with Russian, Taiwan, Japanese and others branches of NCSoft too, but it's more like Seoul is the reference and you don't interact really with other branches :)

[Moxie]

I think a few people asked about the engine/graphics updates and that's not really something I can answer. This would be a question for the Development team. I can say that I have not heard of any updates other than graphics in Goddess of Destruction.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

Hey, a new question again =D

What is the hardest thing concerning the cooperation between Seoul and Seattle ? Do you cooperate with Russian, Taiwan, Japanese and others branches of NCSoft too, but it's more like Seoul is the reference and you don't interact really with other branches :)

Time zone difference is the hardest thing to deal with. We definitely manage to work around it and the Dev Team is really great at helping us when there are urgent tasks we need help with, but it's definitely something we have to take into consideration at all times.

We don't have much interaction with the other territories. We mainly only communicate with the Dev team.

-Moxie

[Harny]

I think a few people asked about the engine/graphics updates and that's not really something I can answer. This would be a question for the Development team. I can say that I have not heard of any updates other than graphics in Goddess of Destruction.

-Moxie

Moxie, L2 has a terrible performance and even on new high-end machines, it runs worse then newest games.
The only thing we want to know is, whether it will run smoother on our machines or not.
Because if dev team only upgrades textures to a higher resolution ones and adds a few graphical details, L2 will become totally unplayable especially during sieges.
One of the biggest reason of such high PvP program usage is low FPS rate during sieges for most people.

[Moxie]

Moxie
What do you think: free-to-play business model for lineage 2 is good or bad?
Do you have a plans for creating ingame script event which is unique for eu/na lineage 2? Last year we have localised korean script events only.

I have mixed feelings about a free to play model, but I'll say the market has definitely opened up to this idea in the last year or two. We're seeing more success stories than we would've seen maybe three years ago.

As for scripted events, this is something that can be quite difficult. We do not have the ability to literally create our own script event that interacts with the server and client. We can create GM events, which we have done in the past and are currently planning, but of course these are not as enjoyable as scripted events that everyone can enjoy simultaneously. We can request some specific scripted events and we will be doing so, however, there is quite a bit of development time involved, so we wouldn't be able to, for example, turn around and offer one next month. We hope to have some unique events in the coming years.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

When I follow your link, I see "Lineage(R)" and "Buy from these retailers: (GameStop, Fry's etc.)". I'm behind the corporate firewall that currently gives me an external IP address from Schaumburg, IL (USA)

Krissa,

Can you send me a PM with your account name and the IP address? I'm having someone investigate this. You shouldn't be having a problem being able to purchase a serial code.

Thank you!

-Moxie

[Laby]

Here I come with a new question :D May be it's a bit more for Cryo or anyone from QA, it could be kinda technic :)

Those days, we could see many NPC Server Crash on Naia (I don't know the situation about Chronos). We saw few servers crashes too (last one was last week for naia) and login server could be in trouble several times a month. It's a fact, and I don't want to argue about it.

I'm curious about the hardware and software you use (the more I could know wihout being killed for knowing top secret stuff :D).

- Is Lineage 2 Gameserver always very glutton with ressources from hardware ? Did the new updates change that ?
- The Npc server is oftenly down, but afaik it's running on the same physical machine than the Game Server. Is it so a software problem more than a hardware problem ? Is this Server running in a VM ?
- Do you plan to get a Login server in Europe for European users ? (like Aion's one)
- I already worked for big company, and I know it could be very hard to upgrade software. Do you still use Microsoft Windows 2003 Server x64 or you upgraded to a new version ?
- The maximum players online for a gameserver is caped at 6000 at the moment. Why this limit ? Could you handle more, but it's a bit handy ? If you have to increase the number of slots one day (for exemple, a server full), how many slots could you add ?
- How do you explain the fact that the link between the Login Server and the Gameserver is sometime down ? Is it a problem with AuthD and CacheD servers?
- Is the download limit for the update server is the same for everybody (let's say X Kbits / sec) or it's variable ( you have Y Mbits / sec, if you have 100 people patching at the same time they will all ahve Y/100 Mbits / sec) ?
- If you have one wish about the hardware or software, what would you like to do about it, or to improve ?
- What are the main language you use for operating on Lineage 2 servers and service ?



Thanks :D

[TTaz]

I hope you don't mind me beating a dead horse for a few mins Moxie....

1. Main web page update? Will it ever happen?
If you goto the "Fansite Listing" area, there are a number of links that haven't worked in a very long time. Some (Lineage 2 Stratics for one) takes you to a Stratic page that gives you all kinds of info about New non NCSoft games. Not good if a new person is checking out the links to see what this game is like. It's never good to have dead links or links to info on other (non NC games).

2. I think as of late the GM team have been doing a great job at keeping the bots in check. Much much better than the past years. To the point where the pvp cheats are having a bigger impact on the game than the farm bots. It's not so much the CP/hp pot spam that is the problem. But the anti hide/instat rebuff when buffs are taken away/full party auto target are pvp killers imo.

Personaly I would like to see an option to lock down CP/HP pots kind of like soul shots....that would even the playing field on that part.

3. Game guard....ugh where to start. Do you all talk with Game guard alot about the problem we have been having? I am sure there is some contrat that kind of forces you all to keep useing GG. But is there a way out if the problems keep going. And look into other program options?

[Hels]

Wow... this is what I get for being myopic about only threads I start. What a great idea, Moxie, and a nice way to show that the company actually cares about players:).

I think most of my questions were answered in yesterday's replies... O.O.

[Lald]

Moxie, can u confirm that for GoD a character needs to be 85 100% only to awaken or needs one, 2 or all 3 subs as well to be level 80? Many friends are debating the best course of action in anticipation of the new release.....

Also of great interest is if all 84 armors will be reset to 80 except for Elegia? Again this would help people to better prepare (i.e. Enchant with crystals, farm, ,,)


Thanks

Lald

[Moxie]

Moxie, can u confirm that for GoD a character needs to be 85 100% only to awaken or needs one, 2 or all 3 subs as well to be level 80? Many friends are debating the best course of action in anticipation of the new release.....

Also of great interest is if all 84 armors will be reset to 80 except for Elegia? Again this would help people to better prepare (i.e. Enchant with crystals, farm, ,,)


Thanks

Lald

Level 85 on main to Awaken. Should not require any subclass.

For armors, we were just talking about that today and need to find out for sure about Elegia.

-Moxie

[Lald]

Holy fast reply Bat Man....



TY Moxie


Lald

[Moxie]

The majority of these questions I can't answer, but here goes...

Here I come with a new question :D May be it's a bit more for Cryo or anyone from QA, it could be kinda technic :)

Those days, we could see many NPC Server Crash on Naia (I don't know the situation about Chronos). We saw few servers crashes too (last one was last week for naia) and login server could be in trouble several times a month. It's a fact, and I don't want to argue about it.

I'm curious about the hardware and software you use (the more I could know wihout being killed for knowing top secret stuff :D).

- Is Lineage 2 Gameserver always very glutton with ressources from hardware ? Did the new updates change that ?
I don't actually have visibility to how the server load is and wouldn't be able to answer this. I know that we will need some additional upgrades before Goddess of Destruction and those will come before the update, obviously.

- The Npc server is oftenly down, but afaik it's running on the same physical machine than the Game Server. Is it so a software problem more than a hardware problem ? Is this Server running in a VM ?
We are still working to identify exactly what the issue is. It is intermittent, but we have provided reports to the Dev team for review. Additionally, I'm not able to share the exact specifications for how the hardware is setup for the servers, as I do not have this information.

- Do you plan to get a Login server in Europe for European users ? (like Aion's one)
No plans for this now. If we did this, players who participate on both servers would have to decide which server they wanted to move to permanently. This isn't an ideal situation to put our players in.

- I already worked for big company, and I know it could be very hard to upgrade software. Do you still use Microsoft Windows 2003 Server x64 or you upgraded to a new version ?
I do not know what OS our servers run on.


- The maximum players online for a gameserver is caped at 6000 at the moment. Why this limit ? Could you handle more, but it's a bit handy ? If you have to increase the number of slots one day (for exemple, a server full), how many slots could you add ?
The limit is the default setting from the Dev team, but it is my understanding that this could be changed. I believe this number was set, as it was believed to be near the highest population that could be on the server and still be a fun environment.

- How do you explain the fact that the link between the Login Server and the Gameserver is sometime down ? Is it a problem with AuthD and CacheD servers?
This is also outside of my expertise. I have a good understanding of the setup and the issue you're referring to, but am not confident enough to answer appropriately.

- Is the download limit for the update server is the same for everybody (let's say X Kbits / sec) or it's variable ( you have Y Mbits / sec, if you have 100 people patching at the same time they will all ahve Y/100 Mbits / sec) ?
I believe the limit is the same for everyone, however, the connection is also limited to the players location in correlation to the patch server. We are actually looking at some new ways of downloading via the patcher. I'll share more about this when we are closer to launching the service.

- If you have one wish about the hardware or software, what would you like to do about it, or to improve ?
My one wish would be to eliminate all crash bugs from the face of the planet!

- What are the main language you use for operating on Lineage 2 servers and service ?
Not sure on this, do you mean OS?

[GoddessCandy]

Hello GM Staff, I would like to share some honest comment/sugestion about Lineage 2. Sorry if it should be in the suggesting forum and a bit long. I recently lure 5 of my school friends to play Lineage 2 and they also play everquest 2 extended(F2P) SO they are comparing L2 to EQ2.. They are new player to Lineage 2 but veterian to MMORPG.

1. L2 is all about grouping but to an new player in L2 it really hard to get in a group. Yes we can shout in town and talk to random people or look for friends which can take too much time. Getting group in an MMO should be FAST and easy for everyone. Other MMORPG like EQ2 extended have "party group board" and you get teleported to the group and can have fun in 1 minute. yes in L2 there is party matching but it badly broken. Why player can post WTS item? it should be only for grouping only. Some group has only 1 person and afk for hours, these group should be removed from party matching. Only group that has players that are active and post within 30-45minute should be on Party Matching. Other game incourage the use of party/group board by giving xp bonus and bonus buff for each new player join to the group through this system. For L2 this will make new player see party matching as great tool for grouping annd treat L2 server community as alive and bursting with group and players. I know many people want perfect XP party and max XP/hour but the rest of the normal player just want an lively, FAST, and easy way to group when we have 1-3 hour to play a day.

2. L2 is suppose to be Clan driven game, but for new player why do they need to shout in everytown hoping some recuiter or someone nice in a clan will invite them. My 5 friend try shouting in all big town for 40min and no clan has invite them. Other MMO has guild/clan board where all recruiting clan is listed and new player can pick and look at what each clan offer and want in their members. This is all done INgame without going to internet or forum to see which clan is recruiting. Then in L2 you get another problem as you will need to wait until someone with invite right in that clan to invite. If the clan leader or officer is not online you will have to mail or pm them when they are online next time. Other MMO you click on a clan you want to join and your name get register, no need to remember or see who online to get invited. Offcourse the clan officer/leader still have to approve your request to join the clan. In L2 we do not see any of these feature in game, clan application/forum are external website. Why can't we see in L2 a clan recruiting board and clan info so new player can see how active a clan is and what time where most player are on. my friends has went through 3 clan in a week due to these clan are semi-inactive or does not have any actively that matches play time. Player should have Easy, FAST and Accurate info on Clan they like to Join from InGame.

3. Yes we know L2 is hardcore game but it still a Game, normal player want to log-in group and have fun for 1-2 a day and get decent( not top of line) equiments and not worry about running low on adena due to simple thing as shots and heal pot and teleport from town to town. These 5 friend in common armor and newbie buff in group barely have enough money to supply soul/spirtshot, heal pot, death penalty scroll. SO imagine they go to big town like giran and see Equiment sold for Million and Billions adena. Everyone tell them to creat spoiler dwarf, less group xping and farm adena or play market. Yes to veterian l2 player that is good advise but to new player who play game for FUN - there is no other MMORPG that force normal player to farm adena and play market to just get be able to afford basic supply to xp as an group.
Have an GM and QA Staff even test say an 4 person group with all common gear xp to level 61 A-grade and have more then 1-2M adena? with Shout/healpot and 1 or 2 death scroll it cost each player 300-400k each hour of group play. yes normal noob xp group die often to mob as they alway tried to take on more then they can handle hoping for extra adena drop from mob or extra good item drop so they can use/sell to shop to make money.

Now Even with all difficulty issue, my 5 friends are loving Lineage 2. For an 7 year old game they said the graphic is not too colorful and for kid. Lineage 2 beat so much other current MMO now, the texture/details on their Character, weapon/armor look really great. Fighting with monster and assisting in group control are the best. As we use voice software to talk to each other so it very simple gameplay control to help and assist each other in Lineage 2 compare to other MMO game. They don't mind the Grind, the XP. And are not set out to ownz other player or be the best. But they alway praise the L2 Server GOD's when they get any drop from mob that they can sell to cover their basic supply need. With Determine I can see them many months later in L2 hitting S80 grade in our little 6-7 man group in real (non common)A grade armor and B grade weapon and talk about our wealthy rich characters that massed 10-15M adena. year later they hit lvl 90 and think about finally be able to put an Special Ability to their Mid A weapon.

[Moxie]

I hope you don't mind me beating a dead horse for a few mins Moxie....

1. Main web page update? Will it ever happen?
If you goto the "Fansite Listing" area, there are a number of links that haven't worked in a very long time. Some (Lineage 2 Stratics for one) takes you to a Stratic page that gives you all kinds of info about New non NCSoft games. Not good if a new person is checking out the links to see what this game is like. It's never good to have dead links or links to info on other (non NC games).

Yes, it will happen. It's impossible to even address this question, as we know the site is grossly outdated. This is one of the questions that gives me big ulcers. But it will happen.

I believe Sace is aware the outdated Stratics link and is correcting that. Which other links are outdated that you are aware of?


2. I think as of late the GM team have been doing a great job at keeping the bots in check. Much much better than the past years. To the point where the pvp cheats are having a bigger impact on the game than the farm bots. It's not so much the CP/hp pot spam that is the problem. But the anti hide/instat rebuff when buffs are taken away/full party auto target are pvp killers imo.

Personaly I would like to see an option to lock down CP/HP pots kind of like soul shots....that would even the playing field on that part.
Changing functionality of items is something that would require development work, which we are unable to do ourselves. However, as I mentioned previously, we are working on the PvP cheating issue.


3. Game guard....ugh where to start. Do you all talk with Game guard alot about the problem we have been having? I am sure there is some contrat that kind of forces you all to keep useing GG. But is there a way out if the problems keep going. And look into other program options?
We do have regular communication with (Inca) Gameguard when we have major issues. We do not have plans to stop using it at this time.

[Rosalina]

Thanks for the information about the Korea->NCWest leadtime for updates answered previously, certainly explains the time delay we have, and hopefully enlightened more than just myself :)

Territory Wars: Are there any plans to bolster/update this feature?
Ever since the very first weekend the territory wars decended into a farming exercise of who can log what alt for a party to kill 10x etc. Personally I believe a large part of the problem has been the fact the Territory Wards stay in the previous winning castles and do not revert to their own castles. I find it a terrible shame because Territory wars had such a lot of promise, but after that very first weekend there was no real competition for the Wards anymore. All that happens is basically a seige on one castle that owns them all - none of the other castles get any action. Previously, there was PvP parties all over the map having fun trying to capture wards. Any comment on this or any Territory War related development to make the feature more PvP, more fun, less farming?

GoD questions: 1-85 quests, skills & R grade armors.
1. I read that the GoD update introduces quests to help take you from 1-85. Is there any confirmation possible on this from official channels?
2. I read that OE'd skills will be reset to +0 in GoD (I think in relation to them being 'swapped' for the LvL85+ skills when awakening), if this is true it may affect how people OE their skills until the update arrives. This also raises the question - Do we have to trade in ALL of our pre-85 skills, or do we keep some? Any confirmation or responce to this info?
3. R (85) grade armors - Will they be available through rec drop and spoil/drop only, or will we see armor being presented as quest rewards in the future (in the GoD update)? (Similar to the DV S84 reward?)

[PrecisionX]

what are the odds you guys would run some tv advertisments during primetime


edit: we need to get some players in this game before we can adress issues.

[Laby]

GoD questions: 1-85 quests, skills & R grade armors.
1. I read that the GoD update introduces quests to help take you from 1-85. Is there any confirmation possible on this from official channels?
2. I read that OE'd skills will be reset to +0 in GoD (I think in relation to them being 'swapped' for the LvL85+ skills when awakening), if this is true it may affect how people OE their skills until the update arrives. This also raises the question - Do we have to trade in ALL of our pre-85 skills, or do we keep some? Any confirmation or responce to this info?
3. R (85) grade armors - Will they be available through rec drop and spoil/drop only, or will we see armor being presented as quest rewards in the future (in the GoD update)? (Similar to the DV S84 reward?)
I could avoid some trouble for Moxie, since most of those questions have their answer on http://boards.rochand.com :)

[Desert_Eagle]

Unfortunately, we will not be running servers with different versions on them.

The main reason for this is the difficulty in managing several different servers with different versions. We currently have QA servers, PTS servers, Live servers, patch servers, and Auth servers. For each live server, we need a QA server that has the exact same version, which we use to test bug reports. When we receive newer builds from the development team, we use another QA server to test/confirm. The PTS version is somewhere between Live and QA, depending on when we push the updates to the live servers. We also have authentication servers for each of these environments, which we have to maintain just like any other piece of hardware. There's also maintenance of database servers for each environment.

If we wanted to run servers with different versions, we would essentially need to have the same setup for each version. Not to mention, we wouldn't be able to get support from the Development team for old versions, so if there were a major issue with one of them, there isn't a lot we could do about it.

I hope that helps in understanding why we stick with the latest version from the Development team.

-Moxie

Thank you, Moxie, for an answer. What about questions 2 and 3?
-New game server(s) in EU/NA after GoD live?
-New 'Alt' game server each year or two, merging into 'Main' game server at the end of this period (repeating creation-merge-creation cycle)?

In both cases you will need only one more game server for EU and one more for NA - same configurations, same game update, just like old times was...
Please don't tell me technical issues > active client base!

[Ykara]

Some questions.. that might have been answered.. I didn't go through all topic.

1. Since NCWest distributes this game internationally and not only in the US, shouldn't it live only by International laws.. and not only US ones?

2. In the past years I've noticed that NCWest server team, has major redundancy flaws, are there any plans to fix these?

3. Do you plan to continue making this game easier and WoW-Like.. or will we have Lineage II again.. in all it's glory?

4. When is NCWest going to start advertising LII again?

5. AION, Tabula Rasa, were a flop.. and millions were invested.. but LII endured.. don't you think we, the community deserve a lot more from NCSoft/West?

6. Why not a Veteran Reward Plan like in AION?

7. Can we ask for Charles Porter to come back to L2? I have nothing against Cryo/Sparse, etc.. but Charles had an excellent communitcation with the community. It would be wise that the GMs team(Producer/CM excluded) had an active role and interaction with the community.

8. Why don't you implement the NCCoin stuff from Exteel.. and maybe even the "official RMT" that L2 has in Korea for mounts, etc.. ?

[Xalya]

Thanks for the information about the Korea->NCWest leadtime for updates answered previously, certainly explains the time delay we have, and hopefully enlightened more than just myself :)

Territory Wars: Are there any plans to bolster/update this feature?
Ever since the very first weekend the territory wars decended into a farming exercise of who can log what alt for a party to kill 10x etc. Personally I believe a large part of the problem has been the fact the Territory Wards stay in the previous winning castles and do not revert to their own castles. I find it a terrible shame because Territory wars had such a lot of promise, but after that very first weekend there was no real competition for the Wards anymore. All that happens is basically a seige on one castle that owns them all - none of the other castles get any action. Previously, there was PvP parties all over the map having fun trying to capture wards. Any comment on this or any Territory War related development to make the feature more PvP, more fun, less farming?


i have to say it would rather be more intresting to have flags reset for each TW, so you cant just hoard them easily. but we really have too low population for it to work well, top clans could essentially keep half force at castle defending while rest capture all others.

[Zhanig]

Moxie
Thank you for starting this, I had hoped that others would be saying at least hello here.
I would too like to ask that Charles rejoins us, but I am sure he had his fill here and like the rest of us, wants something new now and again in job land.

I guess one the biggest questions is why and how do you all decide what to give out as permanent in special events and what is transitory.

A good example is some of the special items in Korea for micromoney. I see you all either don't have the necessary tools to do this for us, but you all should really consider anything that is not game changing should be allowed to stay in game forever. I am talking about the horse mounts, and the pirate sword augment, etc.
These were things that add to the player experience without changing anything and in some ways go along way to support leveling and keeping us engauged in game.

The change in the adena market has been quite harsh. With people blowing into A grade and now with the focus on S grade and above, there is so much wealth that has been lost in game, why are you not doing more double drop weekends, etc. to off set it. Those were used in Lineage 1 and they only bliped the economy for a week or two at most but allowed people to generate wealth instead of loosing it all to sinks.

I also feel that your banning policy has hurt more than helped. The people you let back are infact the ones that hurt the game so long ago, but now, it seems that income trumps rules. I know it has to be more than that, but it seems that way from our side.

One last thing, you say this site is being worked on and updated. I guess, being a sys admin for an online and real world publisher, I fail to understand how little things can't be updated all the time instead of this one big update. Surly the armor and weapons are coming out of a database and could be added here and there.

Good luck, I really, really hope to see this work (this forum). A lot of good people have left over the years because of the lack of love from the other side and it would be nice to see us re-grow in the future so we can break the 10 year record of Lineage 1 in the NA / Euro area.

[TetiusRaules]

Hello to all the team.

I would like to know, Moxie, what level is your EE and what is your way to play this class in the game.

This class remains my fav one.


Could we know about all classes the teams play and enjoy the most ?

[Raistlin]

Hello Moxie.

First of all, I want to say what a great idea this is, and how much I appreciate allt he work you and your team do everyday to make this a better, and better esperience for all. That said, I'm sure that spending time addressing the big issues here takes away from other duties, meaning extra hours for you and your team - which we greatly appreciate.

I'll try to keep this short. The focus would be on increasing wealth in game, so that players - mostly casual players (about 20hours a week) can enjoy the game more. This is especially true since, like has been mentioed before, geting through A grade is farily easy - and S-grade seems to be the sticking point where many get frustrated and don't stay.

Basicaly, is there a plan to slightly (not 4.5x or anything like that) a) incresae adena drops more commensurate to level of area we're hunting, and b) increase number of full drops (mostly A grade, and low S-grade) in areas?

I know that this is probably a much more involved process, as been mentioned in previous threads, but I do think a "boost" to the economy might help keep new players, or players returing more intersted in the game ealry on - so that they stay, and can get into bigger clans/progress to stay the "long haul".

I wanted to also offer some solutions, which some have already been talked about for GoD - and some which may be a "bridging techniche" between now and GoD.

1) Matching adena drops with Vitality in GoD. Honestly, I think that this really fixes most of what's been discussed. As a "casual player" I think that it's particularly fair, since it does not "over reward" players who have hours and hours to play, and rewards us on an even level with Vitality. Most new players either play in "casual mode" from the beginning, or soon thereafter. That system of "Vitality Matching" also, I think, "balances the equation" of allowing for faster leveling with getting matching gear. Also, it does cost a little more to try and stay on top of Vitliaty, and that should help. I really think that this may be a 80-90% solution to the problem, which is already coming with GoD.

2) How about some "bridging events" to help with getting some wealth, etc. between now and GoD (or even after GoD)? Someone had mentioned about a double-drop weekend. Here's an idea - for a double xp week/weekend event, match the adena drops to the xp?? It would be a "prelude" to this part of GoD, and would help some out, who really need some help to stay with the geme.

3) Full drops. It seems (I may be wrong here), that many of the full drops (for me - S-grade weapons in Dino Island and A-grade items/mats in Blazing Swamps) seemed to disappear with High-Five. I used to help suppliment my income to buy consubables (shots, Milk, scroll/pots) with these drops, and/or use for other characters at A-grade or soon to be S-grade. Maybe it's just me, but is there a plan to possibly slightly increase drops for those items (not C or B grade - those are relatively cheap now and easy to obtain) in the future?

That's it. Sorry to take so long, but thought it was of interest.

To end on a positive note. There are so many things that are better now than with before (more areas to hunt, rebalancing areas, so many more quests, drastically reducting bots - too many to name). We all appreciate it! Also, the graphics are truly amazing. I have been using the same 6-year old laptop computer (Dell Inspiron) to play the game over the last many years - and it still runs amazing well. This is even true duo-boxing on the same 6-year old laptop that last few months since the anniversary event (I finally got a second account this that event - what a HUGE plus that event gave for us "casual players" and those returning to the game - truly impressive effort there!). To be able to add that much content, keep the standard of excellent so high, and add that much to a game - and still adjust the code for the game where I can play on a 6-year old laptop (absolutely zero is added to that laptop, except a nice mouse - that's it!) with two accounts at the same time. Now THAT is impressive.

- Raist

[MAX500]

Good Gawd Raist!

I think all that he was asking is that if there's any plans to rebalance adena drops, and full drops I think, with Vitality (other than what we heard about in GoD). And if there's any events planned between now and then to help with getting wealth for casual players - mostly.

- Styx

[lotek]

The preview site is currently scheduled to be updated roughly once per month (sometimes less, sometimes more)

1. Why updates are so rare?

[Raistlin]

Good point. However, on the flip-side, if they are good - farily inclusive updates - doing these routinely once a month is a big plus (especially over what we have now). I can't read those Korean updates, and the translations are not so easy to decifer. A good update every monthy would really help, and be a great step in the right direction.

[Moxie]

Thanks for the information about the Korea->NCWest leadtime for updates answered previously, certainly explains the time delay we have, and hopefully enlightened more than just myself :)

Territory Wars: Are there any plans to bolster/update this feature?
Ever since the very first weekend the territory wars decended into a farming exercise of who can log what alt for a party to kill 10x etc. Personally I believe a large part of the problem has been the fact the Territory Wards stay in the previous winning castles and do not revert to their own castles. I find it a terrible shame because Territory wars had such a lot of promise, but after that very first weekend there was no real competition for the Wards anymore. All that happens is basically a seige on one castle that owns them all - none of the other castles get any action. Previously, there was PvP parties all over the map having fun trying to capture wards. Any comment on this or any Territory War related development to make the feature more PvP, more fun, less farming?

GoD questions: 1-85 quests, skills & R grade armors.
1. I read that the GoD update introduces quests to help take you from 1-85. Is there any confirmation possible on this from official channels?
2. I read that OE'd skills will be reset to +0 in GoD (I think in relation to them being 'swapped' for the LvL85+ skills when awakening), if this is true it may affect how people OE their skills until the update arrives. This also raises the question - Do we have to trade in ALL of our pre-85 skills, or do we keep some? Any confirmation or responce to this info?
3. R (85) grade armors - Will they be available through rec drop and spoil/drop only, or will we see armor being presented as quest rewards in the future (in the GoD update)? (Similar to the DV S84 reward?)


In regards to Territory Wars, there are no plans to make changes with the Goddess of Destruction update. I did hear some discussion about it during my visit, but there are no finite plans as of yet.

In regards to the GD specific questions, I will let Cryo answer those for you when he has a moment.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

what are the odds you guys would run some tv advertisments during primetime


edit: we need to get some players in this game before we can adress issues.

The odds of us running ads on tv during primetime are basically nill. That specifically is out of the realm of possibility, but I agree, we need to find creative ways to attract some new players, as well as entice previous players.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

Thank you, Moxie, for an answer. What about questions 2 and 3?
-New game server(s) in EU/NA after GoD live?
-New 'Alt' game server each year or two, merging into 'Main' game server at the end of this period (repeating creation-merge-creation cycle)?

In both cases you will need only one more game server for EU and one more for NA - same configurations, same game update, just like old times was...
Please don't tell me technical issues > active client base!

As for adding new servers, we will have to see what the population looks like after Goddess of Destruction release. This is something we are aware of and will be monitoring for.

I don't think I understand what you mean by an Alt server. Could you clarify this?

-Moxie

[Sanyawd]

I don't think I understand what you mean by an Alt server. Could you clarify this?

-Moxie

He means:

Add a fresh new server every 2 years, so that everyone can get a fresh start. After 2 years you open a new server again, and merge the other one with the older ones.

[Moxie]

Hello GM Staff, I would like to share some honest comment/sugestion about Lineage 2. Sorry if it should be in the suggesting forum and a bit long. I recently lure 5 of my school friends to play Lineage 2 and they also play everquest 2 extended(F2P) SO they are comparing L2 to EQ2.. They are new player to Lineage 2 but veterian to MMORPG.

1. L2 is all about grouping but to an new player in L2 it really hard to get in a group. Yes we can shout in town and talk to random people or look for friends which can take too much time. Getting group in an MMO should be FAST and easy for everyone. Other MMORPG like EQ2 extended have "party group board" and you get teleported to the group and can have fun in 1 minute. yes in L2 there is party matching but it badly broken. Why player can post WTS item? it should be only for grouping only. Some group has only 1 person and afk for hours, these group should be removed from party matching. Only group that has players that are active and post within 30-45minute should be on Party Matching. Other game incourage the use of party/group board by giving xp bonus and bonus buff for each new player join to the group through this system. For L2 this will make new player see party matching as great tool for grouping annd treat L2 server community as alive and bursting with group and players. I know many people want perfect XP party and max XP/hour but the rest of the normal player just want an lively, FAST, and easy way to group when we have 1-3 hour to play a day.

This is something the Dev team focused on while developing Goddess of Destruction. I've seen the new player experience and spent a few hours playing through it. The new experience is drastically improved from the current experience, as everyone begins in the same area and it has been completely revamped to provide good tips and an easy to follow path for progression.

Additionally, the party matching system has been revamped a bit. I believe it will be more helpful than the current party matching system.

2. L2 is suppose to be Clan driven game, but for new player why do they need to shout in everytown hoping some recuiter or someone nice in a clan will invite them. My 5 friend try shouting in all big town for 40min and no clan has invite them. Other MMO has guild/clan board where all recruiting clan is listed and new player can pick and look at what each clan offer and want in their members. This is all done INgame without going to internet or forum to see which clan is recruiting. Then in L2 you get another problem as you will need to wait until someone with invite right in that clan to invite. If the clan leader or officer is not online you will have to mail or pm them when they are online next time. Other MMO you click on a clan you want to join and your name get register, no need to remember or see who online to get invited. Offcourse the clan officer/leader still have to approve your request to join the clan. In L2 we do not see any of these feature in game, clan application/forum are external website. Why can't we see in L2 a clan recruiting board and clan info so new player can see how active a clan is and what time where most player are on. my friends has went through 3 clan in a week due to these clan are semi-inactive or does not have any actively that matches play time. Player should have Easy, FAST and Accurate info on Clan they like to Join from InGame.

With Goddess of Destruction, there will be some greatly improved benefits with the Academy system. I believe this system is actually quite good for encouraging clans to recruit new players. I think with the combined improvements for the Academy system and the revamped newbie area, we will naturally see an improvement for the ease of finding a clan.

3. Yes we know L2 is hardcore game but it still a Game, normal player want to log-in group and have fun for 1-2 a day and get decent( not top of line) equiments and not worry about running low on adena due to simple thing as shots and heal pot and teleport from town to town. These 5 friend in common armor and newbie buff in group barely have enough money to supply soul/spirtshot, heal pot, death penalty scroll. SO imagine they go to big town like giran and see Equiment sold for Million and Billions adena. Everyone tell them to creat spoiler dwarf, less group xping and farm adena or play market. Yes to veterian l2 player that is good advise but to new player who play game for FUN - there is no other MMORPG that force normal player to farm adena and play market to just get be able to afford basic supply to xp as an group.
Have an GM and QA Staff even test say an 4 person group with all common gear xp to level 61 A-grade and have more then 1-2M adena? with Shout/healpot and 1 or 2 death scroll it cost each player 300-400k each hour of group play. yes normal noob xp group die often to mob as they alway tried to take on more then they can handle hoping for extra adena drop from mob or extra good item drop so they can use/sell to shop to make money.

This is also something that should be address with Goddess of Destruction. I specifically discussed the scenario above with the Dev team and they confirmed that these difficulties should be greatly reduced with Goddess of Destruction. There are changes to full item drops, which will help with the availability of gear. The whole experience progression should be more rewarding in Goddess of Destruction.

Now Even with all difficulty issue, my 5 friends are loving Lineage 2. For an 7 year old game they said the graphic is not too colorful and for kid. Lineage 2 beat so much other current MMO now, the texture/details on their Character, weapon/armor look really great. Fighting with monster and assisting in group control are the best. As we use voice software to talk to each other so it very simple gameplay control to help and assist each other in Lineage 2 compare to other MMO game. They don't mind the Grind, the XP. And are not set out to ownz other player or be the best. But they alway praise the L2 Server GOD's when they get any drop from mob that they can sell to cover their basic supply need. With Determine I can see them many months later in L2 hitting S80 grade in our little 6-7 man group in real (non common)A grade armor and B grade weapon and talk about our wealthy rich characters that massed 10-15M adena. year later they hit lvl 90 and think about finally be able to put an Special Ability to their Mid A weapon.

Some great feedback in this post. I appreciate the time you took to share with us!

-Moxie

[Moxie]

He means:

Add a fresh new server every 2 years, so that everyone can get a fresh start. After 2 years you open a new server again, and merge the other one with the older ones.

Ahh, interesting. Has this been done before?

-Moxie

[Zhanig]

Unless something is done in reguards to the clan halls and the loss of all those clans of their halls in the last merge, the merging of multiple servers into fewer seems to be a real bear for those clans who earned a hall and then lost it over and over and over.

Now the halls go for some serious money both in and out of game so that would be a killer unless the instanced clan hall rumor is correct.
imho

[Lald]

Moxie u answered in a previous post that to awaken in GoD u "should" only need 85 100%; after discussing with clannies we r again unsure to focus on Alta to 85 or make sure main toons have subs to 80. Can u confirm best route?

Lald

[Laby]

Some will say Luna was like that, but it's a endless topic :)

I got a question reading answers to other question :
- Do you plan to change the community board (alt+b) so it works like Korean one ? We could post trade offers, announce, recruit thread and others

[Laby]

Moxie u answered in a previous post that to awaken in GoD u "should" only need 85 100%; after discussing with clannies we r again unsure to focus on Alta to 85 or make sure main toons have subs to 80. Can u confirm best route?

Lald

Once again, I advice you to DO something and read the Rochand board, most of answers are here.
To awaken a class, you should be 85 on the class you want to awaken to start the quest
At level 80, there is a quest for sub-classes to get rid of 80 level cap on ONE subclass

[Cryo]

GoD questions: 1-85 quests, skills & R grade armors.
1. I read that the GoD update introduces quests to help take you from 1-85. Is there any confirmation possible on this from official channels?
2. I read that OE'd skills will be reset to +0 in GoD (I think in relation to them being 'swapped' for the LvL85+ skills when awakening), if this is true it may affect how people OE their skills until the update arrives. This also raises the question - Do we have to trade in ALL of our pre-85 skills, or do we keep some? Any confirmation or responce to this info?
3. R (85) grade armors - Will they be available through rec drop and spoil/drop only, or will we see armor being presented as quest rewards in the future (in the GoD update)? (Similar to the DV S84 reward?)

1. From what I've seen, you can quest your way up to level 40 in a few hours. After that there are a lot of new quests in the 40-85 range, however I can't say that you will be able to get to 85 only with questing. The quest rewards have also been vastly improved and there are many new quests for the 85-99 level range. Lastly, I've seen the addition of "Quest Zone" (quests that everyone hunting in the same zone contribute toward to) and "Campaigns" which are world quests that everyone can do during a certain time of the week.

2. Right now depending on your skill's enchant level, you will get a certain amount of "Essence of the Titans" which in return you can exchange for an item to enchant your awakened skills. As for the second part of the question, that is still being worked on by the development team and was one of the important focus point during the first GD PTS. I think we will need to wait a few more weeks to have a definite answer to that.

3. I'm pretty sure both will be available however the quests might be limited to certain armor sets. I'll try to find out more.

[Desert_Eagle]

As for adding new servers, we will have to see what the population looks like after Goddess of Destruction release. This is something we are aware of and will be monitoring for.

I don't think I understand what you mean by an Alt server. Could you clarify this?

-Moxie

Thanks for info!
About alt server, sorry, I've tried to put in one row an idea of my topic http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=214767

I noticed each time after server transfers or merge, there alway was strong impulse for ingame activity and life. Same was each time new server opened.
Thats why I proposed a model with Main and Alt server I mentioned above.

Ahh, interesting. Has this been done before?

-Moxie

Yes, It was alrdy done with L2 EU by natural way:
1) Franz opening
2) Franz transfers > Teon
3)Luna opening
4)Luna transfers > Teon

and artificially
5)Merge> Naia

Unless something is done in reguards to the clan halls and the loss of all those clans of their halls in the last merge, the merging of multiple servers into fewer seems to be a real bear for those clans who earned a hall and then lost it over and over and over.

Now the halls go for some serious money both in and out of game so that would be a killer unless the instanced clan hall rumor is correct.
imho

Yes, It might be now, but instanced GoD clanhalls will fix it for sure. It was only issue rly

[Raistlin]

This is also something that should be address with Goddess of Destruction. I specifically discussed the scenario above with the Dev team and they confirmed that these difficulties should be greatly reduced with Goddess of Destruction. There are changes to full item drops, which will help with the availability of gear. The whole experience progression should be more rewarding in Goddess of Destruction.
-Moxie

Thanks Moxie. That answers the full-drop question, and think the adena matching to Vitality levels has been addressed as well.

Might there by anything planned for increased adena drops, perhaps with a double xp weekend, between now and when GoD hits EU/NA?

[MYSTERica]

As we are having now all the details about the updates listed, would it be possible to list also the size of the particular update? I mean the delta between Tuesday version of the game and Wednesday version. Not all of us are connected via broad lines into internet and it might give your players an idea what to expect.

[Moxie]

As we are having now all the details about the updates listed, would it be possible to list also the size of the particular update? I mean the delta between Tuesday version of the game and Wednesday version. Not all of us are connected via broad lines into internet and it might give your players an idea what to expect.

We haven't gotten an official count yet, but it is going to be a significant increase in size.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

As we are having now all the details about the updates listed, would it be possible to list also the size of the particular update? I mean the delta between Tuesday version of the game and Wednesday version. Not all of us are connected via broad lines into internet and it might give your players an idea what to expect.

We have translated the patch notes and have been making some edits so that it makes more sense. They should be available by the end of next week. Please keep in mind these are ONLY translated patch notes from the Korean PTS and we have not had the chance to verify them ourselves, so we may not be able to answer all questions.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

To awaken a class, you should be 85 on the class you want to awaken to start the quest
At level 80, there is a quest for sub-classes to get rid of 80 level cap on ONE subclass

This is correct.

[Laby]

We haven't gotten an official count yet, but it is going to be a significant increase in size.

-Moxie

I think MYSTERica would like to know if it's possible to know how many data a Wednesday patch will weight (for exemple the patcher downloaded 149Mb of data with the maintenance)

[Moxie]

I think MYSTERica would like to know if it's possible to know how many data a Wednesday patch will weight (for exemple the patcher downloaded 149Mb of data with the maintenance)

Right, which we do not know an official amount yet, only that it will be significantly large. :)

-Moxie

[Moxie]

Some questions.. that might have been answered.. I didn't go through all topic.

Shall I make you look for the answers I've already given? :p


1. Since NCWest distributes this game internationally and not only in the US, shouldn't it live only by International laws.. and not only US ones?
I would have to check with our legal team for a definitive answer here, and that could take awhile. I believe it may relate to the location of a physical office.

2. In the past years I've noticed that NCWest server team, has major redundancy flaws, are there any plans to fix these?
I would need you to be more specific regarding these flaws, as I do not know specifically what you're referring to.

3. Do you plan to continue making this game easier and WoW-Like.. or will we have Lineage II again.. in all it's glory?
The direction of the game will be up to the Dev team, rather than myself. However, we do pass feedback along to the Dev team and will continue to do so.

4. When is NCWest going to start advertising LII again?
Mostly addressed here (http://boards.lineage2.com/showpost.php?p=3070523&postcount=14). Unfortunately, I do not have a specific date to share with you.

5. AION, Tabula Rasa, were a flop.. and millions were invested.. but LII endured.. don't you think we, the community deserve a lot more from NCSoft/West?
I personally think Lineage II deserves absolute attention from every person in the company! However, there are many moving parts within NCsoft West, as you can imagine. Each of those parts have a different focus and perspective. It is our job as the Lineage II team to provide the best experience we can to our players. That is our focus and we try very hard to make it a positive experience for everyone.

6. Why not a Veteran Reward Plan like in AION?
This is a great suggestion. :)

7. Can we ask for Charles Porter to come back to L2? I have nothing against Cryo/Sparse, etc.. but Charles had an excellent communitcation with the community. It would be wise that the GMs team(Producer/CM excluded) had an active role and interaction with the community.
We can ask, but I think he is doing quite well where he is currently. :)

8. Why don't you implement the NCCoin stuff from Exteel.. and maybe even the "official RMT" that L2 has in Korea for mounts, etc.. ?
Thanks for your suggestion with this. We are always evaluating ways that will improve the game.

[Ykara]

I would need you to be more specific regarding these flaws, as I do not know specifically what you're referring to.

2-3 Years ago I reported a Load-Balancing Issue, that happened to me a couple of days ago. See: 090714-000567


We can ask, but I think he is doing quite well where he is currently. :)

I have no doubts about that, but I wonder.. since AION playerbase dropped.. shouldn't valuable assets be moved to more valuable titles? Ofc.. he has the last word to say on that. :)


Anyway. Thank you for your replies, you should do this more often. ^^

[ChikariShu]

Hi Moxie,Sace , Cryo and the whole staff,

well u maybe seen i asked this question manny times along with a couple other players, but you should be able to answer:

Are there new skins for Dynasty/Vorpal/Vesper Robes and light armor for Dwarves and Orcs ?

If not could u please tell them to make some?
Its really not nice to be a dwarven healer for example and u look like a tank in those Dynasty robes/vorpal robes /Vesper robes ...

And if they changed ... could u link a picture please ?

[Raistlin]

[QUOTE=Moxie;3071063]
This is a great suggestion. :)

QUOTE]

I think that many of us would be very interested in the NCCoin concept, or an "Official RMT" system similar to what Korea employs (with limitations). Many of us.

It might also solve several other issues that cause many new players to not stay with the game.

[Rosalina]

Many thanks Moxie & Cryo for your answers, I love this thread! :)

I think that many of us would be very interested in the NCCoin concept, or an "Official RMT" system similar to what Korea employs (with limitations). Many of us.

It might also solve several other issues that cause many new players to not stay with the game.

I also wish to say I would be VERY willing to pay for accessory/vanity items using NCcoin.
I pay for microtransactions in many other MMOs and DLCs for other games etc, it would be nice to have the option.


I have an odd GoD related question next...
Assume I have a character with lvl85&100% main and lvl80 sub. Is it possible, after GoD update hits, to do the awakening on the main kill a mob to get 86, make the sub your dual class, and then do a sub-to-main change? This would mean your sub was lvl86 awakened type char capable of lvl99 and your main was lvl80 but also capable of awakening & lvl99?

[AndreasK]

We have translated the patch notes and have been making some edits so that it makes more sense. They should be available by the end of next week. Please keep in mind these are ONLY translated patch notes from the Korean PTS and we have not had the chance to verify them ourselves, so we may not be able to answer all questions.

-Moxie

Awsome news! I have been wishing for this. We all know that things may change, even after GoD goes live in Korea. In such a big update, a lot of aspects will need constatnt revising until a relatively balanced state is reached. But still an official translation of patch notes gives a pretty good view of things to come.

On a side note, I would like you to focus a bit on providing some insight on the enchanter class. There have been serious descrapncies between patch notes and actual PTS and some clear information from Dev team would really be appreciated. Right now enchanter is the most "shady" awakened class.

[Inpu]

Why does not operate solo-kamaloka.
On all the servers it operates. No to the NA / EU.

[washtak]

5. AION, Tabula Rasa, were a flop.. and millions were invested.. but LII endured.. don't you think we, the community deserve a lot more from NCSoft/West?

If the second most played P2P MMORPG is a flop, what's a working MMO?

[NoOne]

Why does not operate solo-kamaloka.
On all the servers it operates. No to the NA / EU.

what servers u mean?..private servers,ruoff?

[Pumuky]

Is ncsoft aware that any regular skill on a macro works as actually intended while any skill not on a macro has a longer or delayed reuse time?

[Krissa]

Careful with that, or they will "fix" it for macros :rolleyes:

[Pumuky]

was hoping they could fix the actually skills so everything doesnt need to be in a macro

[iDaze]

Is ncsoft aware that any regular skill on a macro works as actually intended while any skill not on a macro has a longer or delayed reuse time?

omg!:eek: ganna make my whole panel all macro when come home after work! ))

[Dazzel]

Good.

[Yidao]

Moxie u answered in a previous post that to awaken in GoD u "should" only need 85 100%; after discussing with clannies we r again unsure to focus on Alta to 85 or make sure main toons have subs to 80. Can u confirm best route?

Lald

Moxie, maybe you should clarify here that you do not need 85 100% but 85 0% to do the Awakening quest (at least it was like this on the Korean PTS). That means some people, especially Soulhounds and Necromancers, who use Dark-attributed weapons which will become useless in GoD, might want to skip S84 equipment completely.

[DrachaVonDrachen]

If the second most played P2P MMORPG is a flop, what's a working MMO?

Which is the second most played P2P MMORPG (http://www.gameogre.com/topmmorpgs.htm)?

[NoOne]

Which is the second most played P2P MMORPG (http://www.gameogre.com/topmmorpgs.htm)?

this top is a bull****

[Spudnik]

Which is the second most played P2P MMORPG (http://www.gameogre.com/topmmorpgs.htm)?

i agree that list is terrible.

[washtak]

Which is the second most played P2P MMORPG (http://www.gameogre.com/topmmorpgs.htm)?

Aion. Your community website publishes a list according to its own criteras:
"Top MMORPGs are ranked based on several factors and some are entirely objective."

I'm talking about active subscriptions.


Note that it's funny how EvE Online seems popular when noone actually plays it.

[DrachaVonDrachen]

Aion. Your community website publishes a list according to its own criteras:
"Top MMORPGs are ranked based on several factors and some are entirely objective."

I'm talking about active subscriptions.


Note that it's funny how EvE Online seems popular when noone actually plays it.

Guess I wasn't entirely clear, where is the list you’re referencing in your post?

[wasted]

does heroes are 1st target on your priorities about cheating?

have u ever read hero shouts by your own w/o any petition?

i ask those 2 cause the situation on Naia is gone from any control.before 10 mins all heroes accusing each other about what prog they use,how they use,what cheat they do or how they do it,especialy inside oly.

regards

[Laby]

I got a question reading answers to other question :
- Do you plan to change the community board (alt+b) so it works like Korean one ? We could post trade offers, announce, recruit thread and others

Up about one of my question, I really think it could be a great feature :)

[Cabbie]

Which is the second most played P2P MMORPG (http://www.gameogre.com/topmmorpgs.htm)?

hahahahahahahahahahha <takes breath> hahahahahahahahahha

From the article:

Top MMORPGs are ranked based on several factors and some are entirely objective. The deciding factors include popularity, playability, expansions, value for the monthly subscription, and community support. Pay-to-play and free MMORPGs are ranked separately.

Sorry Dracha, your list you quoted is invalid.

[Desert_Eagle]

In GoD update there are will be Fame system update, fame will be actual just like adena does.
So, will be bug (or feature?) dead ppls farming fame at siege field fixed at last?

[washtak]

Guess I wasn't entirely clear, where is the list you’re referencing in your post?

It's an observation of charts of subscriptions to mmos. The top first are easier to tell as they count in millions of subs. So basically I was wondering how 3 millions subs was a flop.

[Kezapser]

Dear Moxie,
I agree with all the peoples wanting a new server and merge it with the older server after about 2 years.. and i will tell you why. Im lvl 76 myself and i have used quite a long time achieving lvl 76. and i see everywhere in giran, people with billions of adena and stuff and thousands of materials.. i just think that for all the new players, it must seem unachievable.
I myself can't raise that fast adena. People is lvl 85 everywhere. and there are S84 gears everywhere. and i myself use the 90 days of fortune set dynasty.. i just wish you could add another server with a fresh start and maybe lower prices at start. so that we can build up a society like 2004.. we just want the C5 or C6.. lvling without vitality was pain so i would really love to have that update in C4 if its possible. Because C4 is everyones favourite.
i believe i speak for many players when i say this. and sorry for my english grammar :P it ain't perfect.

[NoOne]

Dear Moxie,
I agree with all the peoples wanting a new server and merge it with the older server after about 2 years.. and i will tell you why. Im lvl 76 myself and i have used quite a long time achieving lvl 76. and i see everywhere in giran, people with billions of adena and stuff and thousands of materials.. i just think that for all the new players, it must seem unachievable.
I myself can't raise that fast adena. People is lvl 85 everywhere. and there are S84 gears everywhere. and i myself use the 90 days of fortune set dynasty.. i just wish you could add another server with a fresh start and maybe lower prices at start. so that we can build up a society like 2004.. we just want the C5 or C6.. lvling without vitality was pain so i would really love to have that update in C4 if its possible. Because C4 is everyones favourite.
i believe i speak for many players when i say this. and sorry for my english grammar :P it ain't perfect.
if u will check this thread u will find the answer of your question

[Dreamer]

Hello Moxie,

i wonder if u could post what hardware u are using, since lot of ppl wonder with all the crashes/lags etc.
Especially for the reaaally slow download speed of the last Maintenance fixes it would be interesting to know.

TY

[Synbios]

Yeah I had to lol at that list

[Dreamer]

Moxie,

can u tell us why we hear say soo often "we are planing" "soon" "working on it" while nothing happens?
I mean this community shows u soo many small bugs and u cant fix it while some of them require max 5min work.
Dont u think it would look at all better to the community if u fix 100 small bugs (like link updates to fansites, Library section at all :mad:, Castle Control info etc) then working endless on 1 thing u have no clue how to solve?

Dont u think this would attract new/restarting ppl more???
I mean coming back after some years break and seeing the site is still outdated... can u imagine what they think?

Also would like to know how u plan such bug fixes etc.? Have u any time window till it MUST be done?
I mean every company works like that, and if the responisble employees
arent finished in that then night shift and if still not done then..... :D

[Smittie]

Dear Moxie,
I agree with all the peoples wanting a new server and merge it with the older server after about 2 years.. and i will tell you why. Im lvl 76 myself and i have used quite a long time achieving lvl 76. and i see everywhere in giran, people with billions of adena and stuff and thousands of materials.. i just think that for all the new players, it must seem unachievable.
I myself can't raise that fast adena. People is lvl 85 everywhere. and there are S84 gears everywhere. and i myself use the 90 days of fortune set dynasty.. i just wish you could add another server with a fresh start and maybe lower prices at start. so that we can build up a society like 2004.. we just want the C5 or C6.. lvling without vitality was pain so i would really love to have that update in C4 if its possible. Because C4 is everyones favourite.
i believe i speak for many players when i say this. and sorry for my english grammar :P it ain't perfect.

If you play for a few years, you will have those billions also. You weren't really expecting to have billions after just a few weeks, right?

[Kezapser]

If you play for a few years, you will have those billions also. You weren't really expecting to have billions after just a few weeks, right?

ive been playing for 2 years... i have taken a break for 8 months so 16 months total.. i have about 200m. im just saying that adena drop should go up just like the xp does. and drop rate so that xp'ing can be made into farming

[Dreamer]

I suggest to go farming where u get best drops/adena and take the lesser XP u eventually get.
Since u already mentioned xping is much faster now. So in the end u trade some xp to get better drops.

****, looks like i solved the problem of all the ppl here :D

PS: Try to keep this Thread on Topic pls

[Krissa]

i just wish you could add another server with a fresh start and maybe lower prices at start.
It doesn't work this way. L2 has a player-driven economy, and the prices on a new server will be higher (because the stuff that is currently considered low-grade will be considered top-grade for a while).

[Smittie]

ive been playing for 2 years... i have taken a break for 8 months so 16 months total.. i have about 200m. im just saying that adena drop should go up just like the xp does. and drop rate so that xp'ing can be made into farming

Bolded for emphasis.

Then you should compare yourself to other players with that amount of time played, and not the ones that have played much longer.

Hope this statement makes you feel a bit better about yourself :D

[Raistlin]

If you play for a few years, you will have those billions also. You weren't really expecting to have billions after just a few weeks, right?

LoL. You elites are so funny. Do you think anyone buys that B.S., especially after starting new or returning and playing for a few week?

Not everyone has billions. And certainly no one with any common sense - or sense of accomplishment outside of a video game - is going to spend endless hours and dollars (accounts, and many other things) to get your billions. I'm glad you're succeeding so well in a video, b/c I'm sure it's costing you a great deal. Most of the rest of us are just standing back and laughing at the poor elites who have to defend themselves all the time. If you think that insn't huring the game, you really are living in fantasy world 24/7.

[Smittie]

LoL. You elites are so funny. Do you think anyone buys that B.S., especially after starting new or returning and playing for a few week?

Not everyone has billions. And certainly no one with any common sense - or sense of accomplishment outside of a video game - is going to spend endless hours and dollars (accounts, and many other things) to get your billions. I'm glad you're succeeding so well in a video, b/c I'm sure it's costing you a great deal. Most of the rest of us are just standing back and laughing at the poor elites who have to defend themselves all the time. If you think that insn't huring the game, you really are living in fantasy world 24/7.

Maybe when you calm down and realize that exping without losing adena doing so for 7 years adds up.

And no, contrary to your belief, most have money saved up because we have been playing the game for this long.

Most of us "elites" are just laughing at you guys, knowing how little it cost us over the years to get to where we are now. And how far you guys have yet to go.

Especially funny is the cries from ppl that we need more adena to drop from mobs, so they can buy top gear too. More adena drops would just mean we will charge more for that top gear, and you would still be crying coz you cant buy it.

[Spudnik]

you really want to be the reason they stop making threads like this, people? stop the flaming and get to actually making insightful questions.

elseways we run the risk of shearing whatever connection to the administration that has already been made.

[Smittie]

I did not write any flames in there, I guess Sace is seeing flames where there are none.

Sorry for speaking up while being accused, I guess.

Next time we could just let the crybabies keep crying, I guess.

[Raistlin]

LoL. You sure aint holding back on your feelings brah.

Maybe when you calm down and realize that exping without losing adena doing so for 7 years adds up.

And no, contrary to your belief, most ppl dont have billions saved up from botting. We just have money saved up because we have been playing the game for this long.

Sometimes it's really just pathetic how you "non-elites" have to lash out at ppl that have done better than you, or just simply played longer. Most of us "elites" are just laughing at you guys, knowing how little it cost us over the years to get to where we are now. And how far you guys have yet to go.

Especially funny is the cries from ppl that we need more adena to drop from mobs, so they can buy top gear too. More adena drops would just mean we will charge more for that top gear, and you would still be crying coz you cant buy it.

So chin up, wipe those tears away and go back to farming.

Well, I have to admit, I over-reacted. And I do respect your thoughts, and you do have some really good posts often Smitte. I apologize Smitte - and to the rest of the elites (maybe more "determined/driven" players, I should say).

I guess the thing that irks me the most, is new players and players coming back getting duped into thinking that attaining good S or S80 gear will happen like is used to, even compared to just a few short months ago (at the rate, it would take years of playing consistently many hours a week - not too many new players get that, though they often figure it out pretty quickly).

I understand it takes a lot of time and commitment,and if you only have 20 hours or less a week, it's going to take a really long time. Things will go faster if you can get into a good clan that farms better gear - but that will take a long time, you're going to have to get good gear and levels to get into such a clan, and you are going to be at the bottom of the barrel for long time in that clan.

New players, and those coming back - forget about ever getting that kinda of experience in the game now. It's not going to happen - or even close to that - if you're just playing a few hours a week (even up to 20hrs) for many years. At least not until GoD arrives - hopefully it will be somewhat better than now. Who knows what it will really be like - or how long that will be. Hopefully we'll still have two servers by then. Maybe, maybe not.


Spud makes a great point. I think everyone, which also clearly includes the team here, wants to game to continue and flourish with GoD. Maybe get back towards the activity of the "old days", like C4. That's what many of us would like to see.

NCSoft has fixed many things - botting, ebaying, etc., and added a lot to the game. It looks like what we asked for towards "tweeking the economy to match Vitality" is happening in GoD. I, and many others, think that a move in the right direction and applaud this change. I'm not "economist" or big time gamer, but it does seem that if there's a way to help the economy - really, I miss the self-satisfaction of crafting and being able to make my own gear too (many people enjoyed that part of the game). I don't know what the answer is - but I think a lot of people on this board have some good ideas, or will have some good ideas. Probably, actually, some of the best ideas will come from the most experienced players (and maybe some new players braving the boards as well). I'm looking forward to it (and will keep my comments constructive - and, thank gawd yes I know, limited).

You know, sometimes I fall into the old trap of posting on L2Orphus by presenting an extreme viewpoint, to get a good counter viewpoint. I'll refrain from doing that from now on.

- Raist

[Smittie]

Why are you saying they cant have the kind of experience that players that have been playing longer than them have?

Nothing but their own commitment level can change this.

Looking for a good clan instead of just randomly joining one also helps.

[Moxie]

I had a busy day yesterday and didn't get a chance to catch up on questions. Will be answering as much as I can today!

-Moxie

[Raistlin]

Why are you saying they cant have the kind of experience that players that have been playing longer than them have?

Nothing but their own commitment level can change this.

Looking for a good clan instead of just randomly joining one also helps.

Very, very good point Smitte. And really, being part of a clan is one of the most important things about enjoying L2. As you, and many others have said, that's what makes L2 so special and enjoyable.

And, like you alude to here, working your way up with a clan - and joining a clan early (if you can), can really add to the experience. Working your way up from one clan to another, as you build your character and skills - is one of the most enjoyable parts of the game. I've never been a clan leader myself (although back in C1-C5 i was often in the top 2 or 3 of a clan), so I sure don't have the best input - although I really enjoyed almost all the clans I've been - staying in all of them until they folded or the leadership left).

I guess maybe what's more important to ask, is looking at what you all think would be best to help clans improve the experience for their players. Missing out on being in a clan, is really missing out on L2 (I know some of the concerns voiced here have been echoed by clan leaders/leadership low-mid level clans as well). Very good point Smitte.

[ChikariShu]

Maybe when you calm down and realize that exping without losing adena doing so for 7 years adds up.

And no, contrary to your belief, most have money saved up because we have been playing the game for this long.

Most of us "elites" are just laughing at you guys, knowing how little it cost us over the years to get to where we are now. And how far you guys have yet to go.

Especially funny is the cries from ppl that we need more adena to drop from mobs, so they can buy top gear too. More adena drops would just mean we will charge more for that top gear, and you would still be crying coz you cant buy it.

And because u havent played in a long time Raistlin u missed up on some big events and some ups in prices that were verry lucrative at some point, i still remember selling my stupid lance for over 100 mill when it was barely worth 20, and selling my bleu wolf set at the price of the top set at that time wich was DC robes for mages...

It's all the things u have missed, now its harder to make monney on the market , nothing to craft annymore.

And that's my question to you then Sace and moxie, what about craft in God ?
Heard ther ebe a lvl 11 craft for Maestro's , but only belts and pouches.
And then again i hear that everyone will eb able to craft shots and armor ?

What's true and what's not ?

[Moxie]

Before I begin, I love your avatar. I usually watch it a few times before moving on. Browncoats!!

Moxie
Thank you for starting this, I had hoped that others would be saying at least hello here.
I would too like to ask that Charles rejoins us, but I am sure he had his fill here and like the rest of us, wants something new now and again in job land.

I guess one the biggest questions is why and how do you all decide what to give out as permanent in special events and what is transitory.

A good example is some of the special items in Korea for micromoney. I see you all either don't have the necessary tools to do this for us, but you all should really consider anything that is not game changing should be allowed to stay in game forever. I am talking about the horse mounts, and the pirate sword augment, etc.

These were things that add to the player experience without changing anything and in some ways go along way to support leveling and keeping us engauged in game.
Some event items have to be removed, if they are specifically rewards or items created for the events. This is because some event items and rewards will be repurposed in the future. Occasionally, we have left some reward items in-game, like buff scrolls and potions, and they were renamed and reused for other events. We try to avoid this, as it can be confusing.

As for the items that are sold in Korea, we have given several of these away for contest rewards and special thank yous, and we gave some away during the 7th Anniversary Celebrations. We do like to share these items, but have chosen to be very selective in which items are given out and how often.

The change in the adena market has been quite harsh. With people blowing into A grade and now with the focus on S grade and above, there is so much wealth that has been lost in game, why are you not doing more double drop weekends, etc. to off set it. Those were used in Lineage 1 and they only bliped the economy for a week or two at most but allowed people to generate wealth instead of loosing it all to sinks.

We will be doing more events throughout the summer that we hope will provide some assistance. For a longer term solution, the Goddess of Destruction information we have seen seems to indicate that it should alleviate some of these stressors as well.

I also feel that your banning policy has hurt more than helped. The people you let back are infact the ones that hurt the game so long ago, but now, it seems that income trumps rules. I know it has to be more than that, but it seems that way from our side.
I'm thinking you're referring to the policy of reviewing accounts banned prior to the three strikes policy that were up for review. While I do understand you perspective, the number of people who were approved for this was very low. If you know of someone who was in this scenario and they are breaking rules, please report them immediately. The reinstatement was conditional on good behavior. Last, income had absolutely nothing to do with the creation or implementation of this policy.

One last thing, you say this site is being worked on and updated. I guess, being a sys admin for an online and real world publisher, I fail to understand how little things can't be updated all the time instead of this one big update. Surly the armor and weapons are coming out of a database and could be added here and there.
There are little things here and there that can be updated manually, mostly by Sace. These are updated regularly. There are other sections which we can request smaller updates for and have done so over the last year. The library section specifically isn't something that can be done in smaller chunks because the process for fixing one section is the same process for fixing them all. It is a matter of all of those sections being updated at the same time. As I said previously, this is not my favorite thing to talk about because there really is nothing I can say about it. I know it is outdated and there is no excuse. All I can do is provide results. I EAGERLY await the day when we can provide results.

Good luck, I really, really hope to see this work (this forum). A lot of good people have left over the years because of the lack of love from the other side and it would be nice to see us re-grow in the future so we can break the 10 year record of Lineage 1 in the NA / Euro area.
Cheers!

[washtak]

Questions about server transfers :
1. Why is there still a big limitation of transfer numbers? Why the transfers from Chronos (status: normal) to Naia (status: light) are blocked?
I understand you may want to avoid chaotic transfers on the first months of the opening of transfers for a server that didn't have them, but now? Is it nice when a group of players decide to transfer and they may have friends stuck alone on the previous server?

2. Will the limitations of the transfer (item transfered etc) be modified to update to the reality of the game nowadays? The needs of players in GoD aren't the same as those when transfers opened. Will it be adjusted?

[Laby]

Questions about server transfers :
1. Why is there still a big limitation of transfer numbers? Why the transfers from Chronos (status: normal) to Naia (status: light) are blocked?

The transfer limitation is technical, not political. It takes time to transfer one character from one server to an other, especially since the two servers are at a far distance, and each character transfered weight a lot of data. You should also run some tests to check the database homogeneous.
More transfer per week = more time on the maintenance, it's simple as that

[Pumuky]

Is there any posibility that the raid map and flag position for the raids in game could be upadted, some of the raids dont exists any more and their flags remain and some of the flags are pretty far from where the actual raids are.

Is there any posibility that you can tell us which of the threads that we make, if any, are read and considered, the suggestions, the comments, the ideas, threads that don't have a single post from any staff member pertaining to ncsoft, or are most forums just made so we argue among ourselves and blow off steam?

Can we expect the manor system to be updated soon, will you take any action against the bots which currently exploit the system?

When a gm goes out to test if people are botting, do they even bother to check if party chat, clan chat, private chat, ally chat, shout chat is being used or is it just some random occurence?

I ask because for the past three months i've barely have had time to xp at all, except the random raid and dungeon and the occasional xp session with clan members, almost all which amounts to what is considered less than a casual player and yet every single time when i go xp, after 2 hours my DD gets bot tested, (reduction of hp/mp/cp).

Even if you don't answer this because of your can't say policy (although if someone is being bot tested for a particular reason i think they should have the right to know, considering that toon is barely in game unless to get pm's from clan members needing anything, and in any case mostly in town or at a fort) thank you for reducing the amount of hp you take from roughly 50% of what i have at that time to something that doesnt get me killed and thank you for not doing it anymore every single time when im trying to zealot.

As for the website sections that are outdated, like the library one, in which you claim not to be able to really say anything about it, how about the truth? there are skills there like nowadays lvl 82 book skills which are still listed as level 81 skills, none of the will skills are there, some clases aparently get nothing after lvl 80 while others have the rune and such books at 81. Dynasty is the top armor as well as the top weapon. Anyone that knows anything about websites knows that it doesnt take a complete update to update lets say 1 page per week, just 1, mainly so returning players can know whats gong on and what to look for as they level, if not maybe take the library off-line and just put a link to a fansite which does take the time to upgrade all those things, either way, something rather than the can't comment, can't say policy.

If not the library, how about the New Player Guide, can you comment why that one is outdated as well? In all the time that newbie buffs can be obtained to level 75 no one has been able to update the page for new players? no one? really?.

"While playing Lineage II, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players." Rule of conduct number 1. So people can't scam, grief o randomly pk others to the extent those others quit game... and yet we get responses from ncsoft staff like:

"This particular situation can't be technically called a scam because all of the truth is plainly visible. Anyone making a purchase from another player is responsible for being careful to check the transaction items and amounts before accepting the purchase/sale/trade.

It's a Darwin test." http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=214067

"The Web Site is an active part of the Service..." So we are all paying for a service ncsoft is not providing and getting nothing in return?

Anyone with a minimum common sense who posts in these forums knows that the part of ncsoft that we deal with has their hands tied by the part of ncsoft which we have no access to, the one that makes and provides you with the game, the updates and many more other things, mainly the korean corporation part of ncsoft, the one all of the koreans complain to and get things acomplished.

Maybe you can give us some emails we can present our complains, queries and concerns to instead of continuing to make attempts that will ultimatly lead to us getting frustrated and you getting frustrated?, either way, starting with a few truths would be nice.

You're overworked, you're understaffed, theres only so many things you can do without having to ask for permission, you can't develop/edit/add/delete parts of the game without permission... these are facts most people here are aware of.

and yet, i'm pretty sure some of the people in this forums would help keep the site updated for the simple fact that we like this game.

[Toasty]

Moxie,

Will there ever be a more leniant proposal to lift bans on players banned in the passed for use of 3rd party programs? I know recently there was a little amount that were let go, ever plan to do that again on a larger scale or? Also if it wasn't for money what was it for as to release just a few people to play again doesn't seem like it was fully worth the proposal.

[PrecisionX]

The odds of us running ads on tv during primetime are basically nill. That specifically is out of the realm of possibility, but I agree, we need to find creative ways to attract some new players, as well as entice previous players.

-Moxie

i think focusing moreso on new players should not be through easy leveling etc because that is already made easy the way it is now, but working on new creative ways of getting
players who have started this game to stick with it, even if me as veteran player got no rewards, i dont care just get these new people in and lock them down somehow, be it though fun and interesting mini games that have excellent replay value and a simplified and rewarding prize system. things like this could have and should have been done with the fantasy island addition, how many man hours were wasted on that. i know this is in the past but hopefully things will go in better directions with development on more important key areas such as customer retention, as well as focusing on conquest customers who may be a bit more challenging to satisfy. i dont play the game as much as i used to because there are not different levels of players anymore, just the elite. and this is the fault on poor decisions.

[Hels]

i think focusing moreso on new players should not be through easy leveling etc because that is already made easy the way it is now, but working on new creative ways of getting
players who have started this game to stick with it, even if me as veteran player got no rewards, i dont care just get these new people in and lock them down somehow, be it though fun and interesting mini games that have excellent replay value and a simplified and rewarding prize system. things like this could have and should have been done with the fantasy island addition, how many man hours were wasted on that. i know this is in the past but hopefully things will go in better directions with development on more important key areas such as customer retention, as well as focusing on conquest customers who may be a bit more challenging to satisfy. i dont play the game as much as i used to because there are not different levels of players anymore, just the elite. and this is the fault on poor decisions.

How do people who can't partake in any of the game features get 'locked down'? Newbies can't afford pet food, shots, dps, heal pots, augments, etc. They have to forego everything worthwhile in this game to afford to play to the next gear level... then they can't afford to buy the gear at the store anyway.

What's the obsession with levels? People don't play for levels, when they start, they don't even know what levels are for... they just want to have fun, and can't, because they can't afford to DO anything but level.

[washtak]

How do people who can't partake in any of the game features get 'locked down'? Newbies can't afford pet food, shots, dps, heal pots, augments, etc.
I'd just want to mention this statement is false. I started a new character left alone on Chronos, solo and without help from alts and for now the leveling of the character and her wolf is going pretty well. Pet food consumption has been changed a long time ago. It's fine now.

[Hels]

I'd just want to mention this statement is false. I started a new character left alone on Chronos, solo and without help from alts and for now the leveling of the character and her wolf is going pretty well. Pet food consumption has been changed a long time ago. It's fine now.

Anything you haven't experienced is false, even if others have? Really?

[washtak]

I don't believe exaggerations of players that others repeat in a forum to emphasize their own point. Well, not anymore. I took a pet with this character because I thought it would be too expensive and wanted to prove it. For now it has a negligible impact. I'll see at 55 when I'll need to change it to a bigger wolf + gear it up.
You mention pet food as a problem of expense. This is particularily false.
You mention augments. I don't see what augment I would need, so I have the feeling that you mix luxury and necessity.
Heal pots are negligible too, if you don't try stupid things like "I wanna xp fastererer on red mobs", as well as DP. If you play warlord, it costs more in DP but warlords are the perfect example of leveling at a very low cost, proving that DP has little to no impact on expenses.
Shots are covered by drops without problem if you don't take a class with a particularily high consumption of shots.

Hence why I say your statement is false.

[Smittie]

Wonder if Hels is just gonna TL;DR that post. It does have more than 3 lines...

[Spudnik]

Wonder if Hels is just gonna TL;DR that post. It does have more than 3 lines...

advice: less flames.

take my advice.

[Hels]

You mention pet food as a problem of expense. This is particularily false.
It is one part of expenses making you unable to afford the next level of gear.

You mention augments. I don't see what augment I would need, so I have the feeling that you mix luxury and necessity.
It is part of the game. Why is it there if by design, low levels it's designed to benefit cannot use it because it is a 'luxury'. You can't afford them can you?

Heal pots are negligible too, if you don't try stupid things like "I wanna xp fastererer on red mobs", as well as DP. If you play warlord, it costs more in DP but warlords are the perfect example of leveling at a very low cost, proving that DP has little to no impact on expenses.
Shots are covered by drops without problem if you don't take a class with a particularily high consumption of shots. Hence why I say your statement is false.
Clarifying. So the statement is false if a newbie who doesn't know better picks certain 'less expensive' classes to level. And newbies should know ahead of time which classes are possible to level without the expenses. Further, newbies who want to test different mob levels,etc, should not, it's not part of the game, meaning there's a right way to play, and you know it, so they are just bad players for not knowing it... and should what? Quit? (well, you explained things perfectly... that's why we have 2 servers of players instead of 13).

Also, the same newbie needs to forgo 'luxuries' in order to play. Luxuries that are meaningless at higher levels, and were designed for them (level 52 life stones), because the game does not drop enough adena to allow them to partake of them. And this is part of the 'fun' of the game? For who?

My last post on this thread that isn't a question directed at the GM's. I should never have jumped in, since it makes it less likely for them to be willing to dig through rubbish to get to questions. My bad.

[washtak]

Ok, the discussion is over. You think that luxuries are for newbie casual players, that sums it up.
Anyone with half a brain will come back to lesser level mobs if they need too much pots or die too much. But generally when they have problems with that, they ask on the forum. The only problem I see is that if they want to go tyrant without having any info on the class, they lose. That's a bit hard.

No really, the problem is about new players not being integrated. When you have to solo, it's not fun. And currently, new players have to solo for a long time. That's not cool.

[Moxie]

Hello Moxie.

First of all, I want to say what a great idea this is, and how much I appreciate allt he work you and your team do everyday to make this a better, and better esperience for all. That said, I'm sure that spending time addressing the big issues here takes away from other duties, meaning extra hours for you and your team - which we greatly appreciate.

I'll try to keep this short. The focus would be on increasing wealth in game, so that players - mostly casual players (about 20hours a week) can enjoy the game more. This is especially true since, like has been mentioed before, geting through A grade is farily easy - and S-grade seems to be the sticking point where many get frustrated and don't stay.

Basicaly, is there a plan to slightly (not 4.5x or anything like that) a) incresae adena drops more commensurate to level of area we're hunting, and b) increase number of full drops (mostly A grade, and low S-grade) in areas?

I know that this is probably a much more involved process, as been mentioned in previous threads, but I do think a "boost" to the economy might help keep new players, or players returing more intersted in the game ealry on - so that they stay, and can get into bigger clans/progress to stay the "long haul".

I wanted to also offer some solutions, which some have already been talked about for GoD - and some which may be a "bridging techniche" between now and GoD.

1) Matching adena drops with Vitality in GoD. Honestly, I think that this really fixes most of what's been discussed. As a "casual player" I think that it's particularly fair, since it does not "over reward" players who have hours and hours to play, and rewards us on an even level with Vitality. Most new players either play in "casual mode" from the beginning, or soon thereafter. That system of "Vitality Matching" also, I think, "balances the equation" of allowing for faster leveling with getting matching gear. Also, it does cost a little more to try and stay on top of Vitliaty, and that should help. I really think that this may be a 80-90% solution to the problem, which is already coming with GoD.

2) How about some "bridging events" to help with getting some wealth, etc. between now and GoD (or even after GoD)? Someone had mentioned about a double-drop weekend. Here's an idea - for a double xp week/weekend event, match the adena drops to the xp?? It would be a "prelude" to this part of GoD, and would help some out, who really need some help to stay with the geme.

3) Full drops. It seems (I may be wrong here), that many of the full drops (for me - S-grade weapons in Dino Island and A-grade items/mats in Blazing Swamps) seemed to disappear with High-Five. I used to help suppliment my income to buy consubables (shots, Milk, scroll/pots) with these drops, and/or use for other characters at A-grade or soon to be S-grade. Maybe it's just me, but is there a plan to possibly slightly increase drops for those items (not C or B grade - those are relatively cheap now and easy to obtain) in the future?

That's it. Sorry to take so long, but thought it was of interest.

To end on a positive note. There are so many things that are better now than with before (more areas to hunt, rebalancing areas, so many more quests, drastically reducting bots - too many to name). We all appreciate it! Also, the graphics are truly amazing. I have been using the same 6-year old laptop computer (Dell Inspiron) to play the game over the last many years - and it still runs amazing well. This is even true duo-boxing on the same 6-year old laptop that last few months since the anniversary event (I finally got a second account this that event - what a HUGE plus that event gave for us "casual players" and those returning to the game - truly impressive effort there!). To be able to add that much content, keep the standard of excellent so high, and add that much to a game - and still adjust the code for the game where I can play on a 6-year old laptop (absolutely zero is added to that laptop, except a nice mouse - that's it!) with two accounts at the same time. Now THAT is impressive.

- Raist

I think your general thought is similar to those that some others have posted. Summarizing answers, full drops will be adjusted with the Goddess of Destruction update, as well as Adena drops, from what I understand. Please know we haven't been able to test the adjusted drop rates yet, but once we can begin testing, we will be able to better answer these questions. We'll also be able to better explain how Vitality is or is not tied to Adena drop amounts.

We do have some events planned between now and GoD launch, including some double drop/spoil periods. We don't have the ability to match Adena drops to Exp, and I don't think this would work particularly well, as high levels get hundreds of thousands of exp points per kill. This would affect the economy, not just drastically, but catastrophically. Perhaps I misunderstood your suggestion?

If I misunderstood any of your points, please correct me. :)

-Moxie

[Moxie]

1. Why updates are so rare?

We have a set schedule for when we update the Goddess of Destruction site. This schedule has a purpose of rolling out details of the update throughout the next several months. Additionally, we are coordinating some regular website updates throughout this time.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

Unless something is done in reguards to the clan halls and the loss of all those clans of their halls in the last merge, the merging of multiple servers into fewer seems to be a real bear for those clans who earned a hall and then lost it over and over and over.

Now the halls go for some serious money both in and out of game so that would be a killer unless the instanced clan hall rumor is correct.
imho

Instanced clan halls are not a rumor. It is coming with Goddess of Destruction. I confirmed this (for the second time) with the dev team last week.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

Some will say Luna was like that, but it's a endless topic :)

I got a question reading answers to other question :
- Do you plan to change the community board (alt+b) so it works like Korean one ? We could post trade offers, announce, recruit thread and others

We would like to make some changes with this, however, there are some technical issues we must address first. I agree that using the in-game system would be ideal and would be helpful for both the players and for us, but we don't know for sure if this will be feasible.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

2-3 Years ago I reported a Load-Balancing Issue, that happened to me a couple of days ago. See: 090714-000567




I have no doubts about that, but I wonder.. since AION playerbase dropped.. shouldn't valuable assets be moved to more valuable titles? Ofc.. he has the last word to say on that. :)


Anyway. Thank you for your replies, you should do this more often. ^^

I'll check on that ticket to see if I can better understand what you are reporting. As for Spam, I will let him know he is missed. I also want to point out what an amazing job the current GM Team has done. :) Let's not forget them!

-Moxie

[Moxie]

Many thanks Moxie & Cryo for your answers, I love this thread! :)



I also wish to say I would be VERY willing to pay for accessory/vanity items using NCcoin.
I pay for microtransactions in many other MMOs and DLCs for other games etc, it would be nice to have the option.


I have an odd GoD related question next...
Assume I have a character with lvl85&100% main and lvl80 sub. Is it possible, after GoD update hits, to do the awakening on the main kill a mob to get 86, make the sub your dual class, and then do a sub-to-main change? This would mean your sub was lvl86 awakened type char capable of lvl99 and your main was lvl80 but also capable of awakening & lvl99?

I'm not sure how the sub-to-main account service will work, as we'll need to run many tests to see how all account services work with the new character options. However, with Dual Class, you'll be able to select one subclass that can Awaken and level up to 99. There will be limitations in place that disallow having a second subclass over 80.

-Moxie

[WamWamWuzzle]

I think your general thought is similar to those that some others have posted. Summarizing answers, full drops will be adjusted with the Goddess of Destruction update, as well as Adena drops, from what I understand. Please know we haven't been able to test the adjusted drop rates yet, but once we can begin testing, we will be able to better answer these questions. We'll also be able to better explain how Vitality is or is not tied to Adena drop amounts.

We do have some events planned between now and GoD launch, including some double drop/spoil periods. We don't have the ability to match Adena drops to Exp, and I don't think this would work particularly well, as high levels get hundreds of thousands of exp points per kill. This would affect the economy, not just drastically, but catastrophically. Perhaps I misunderstood your suggestion?

If I misunderstood any of your points, please correct me. :)

-Moxie


Moxie,

If you do have the ability to adjust the drop/spoil rates now (as your post suggests), then what is the aversion to just resetting the current Pre-GoD servers to an increased drop of items (materials, weapons, armor) during an upcoming scheduled maintenance?

Also, I have often thought that while players should have a high degree of control over the market prices in-game, there should always be a price point set by NCSoft to insure that the market never becomes unfriendly to new players. You have used NPC cats in the past to sell crafting items and materials in town at a set rate. Is it possible to do this on the live servers for base mats, C-grade, B-grade, A-grade, and S-grade parts and materials?

Even if you decide to not do it permanently, it would be interesting to see how changes like these would affect the market and general gameplay. Maybe you could implement either suggestion or both and then leave the changes in-game for a two weeks to a month. We could then have players vote on whether or not to keep the server this way.


Thanks for the chance at an open dialogue with you guys, btw!


WWW

[DrachaVonDrachen]

We don't have the ability to match Adena drops to Exp, and I don't think this would work particularly well, as high levels get hundreds of thousands of exp points per kill. This would affect the economy, not just drastically, but catastrophically.
-Moxie

~ Wisdom
the quality or state of being wise; knowledge of what is true or right coupled with just judgment as to action; sagacity, discernment, or insight.

[Fergu]

We don't have the ability to match Adena drops to Exp, and I don't think this would work particularly well, as high levels get hundreds of thousands of exp points per kill. This would affect the economy, not just drastically, but catastrophically. Perhaps I misunderstood your suggestion?

If I misunderstood any of your points, please correct me. :)

-Moxie

He means increase drop rates at the same rate you increase xp. If there is a double xp and sp weekend, make it a double drop weekend as well

[Moxie]

He means increase drop rates at the same rate you increase xp. If there is a double xp and sp weekend, make it a double drop weekend as well

Ahhh, haha! Of course, that makes more sense.

We can't really do exactly as you've mentioned. We can increase the chance that Adena has to drop from a mob, but we cannot adjust the amount of Adena that drops.

I know it's technically not Monday, but yesterday was a holiday, so it FEELS like Monday... Monday feelings are not my favorite. :D

-Moxie

[Fergu]

Ahhh, haha! Of course, that makes more sense.

We can't really do exactly as you've mentioned. We can increase the chance that Adena has to drop from a mob, but we cannot adjust the amount of Adena that drops.

I know it's technically not Monday, but yesterday was a holiday, so it FEELS like Monday... Monday feelings are not my favorite. :D

-Moxie

Adena drop rate wouldn't be so useful as most mobs have around 80% chance of dropping it, but an increase in the droprate of materials, key materials and complete items would be a real bless for most people. (always talking about 'double' weekends)

[Laby]

We would like to make some changes with this, however, there are some technical issues we must address first. I agree that using the in-game system would be ideal and would be helpful for both the players and for us, but we don't know for sure if this will be feasible.

-Moxie

Thanks Moxie for answering it :)

Laby

[Moxie]

Adena drop rate wouldn't be so useful as most mobs have around 80% chance of dropping it, but an increase in the droprate of materials, key materials and complete items would be a real bless for most people. (always talking about 'double' weekends)

Double drop/double spoil periods would indeed double the drop rates for all items and spoils. (Please note, it does not double the drop amount, just the rate.)

-Moxie

[pix]

i was waiting to see ur response to pumuky, who i thought asked some interesting stuff - but u didnt , so :

when gms bot check, what defines who they check ? and what does moving someone or reducing there cp/hp tell u about there activity ?

[Raistlin]

Double drop/double spoil periods would indeed double the drop rates for all items and spoils. (Please note, it does not double the drop amount, just the rate.)

-Moxie


Thank you for explaining this. I think this small change would make a big difference, especially for new/returning players with only one or even two accounts.

Honestly, a big change in adena drops would probably make a huge issue - it would unbalance things for those playing many hours a day [heck, if I had tons of time and not much else to do - I would probably play a lot more too].

For many new players - a small change - just a better chance to get something that could be used to help them a little bit, would, I think, help keep their interest in L2 and keep them here so that could grow to a higher level and learn the game more. I think a small change like this would go a long ways to helping improve player numbers and satisfaction.

-Raist

[OrochiGirl]

As for the items that are sold in Korea, we have given several of these away for contest rewards and special thank yous, and we gave some away during the 7th Anniversary Celebrations. We do like to share these items, but have chosen to be very selective in which items are given out and how often.

Um, why?

And can you explain why some of the items that are chosen to be given out are on a timer (e.g. Assassin's Bamboo Hat)?

I just want the hat; no timer, no vitality. Just the hat.

[Moxie]

i was waiting to see ur response to pumuky, who i thought asked some interesting stuff - but u didnt , so :

when gms bot check, what defines who they check ? and what does moving someone or reducing there cp/hp tell u about there activity ?

Which question from pumuky? I'm trying not to skip any of the questions that haven't been repeated. It's getting difficult to keep up. :confused: (Edit: I haven't gotten through all of the questions that have gone up. I think I'm almost through page 6. Answering as time permits!)

GM's check characters that are reported, as well as commonly used bot areas, and any reports we submit to them while playing. I've personally sent reports when I spot them during normal game play or during GM visits. They also patrol randomly around the world when time permits.

-Moxie

[Raistlin]

I think your general thought is similar to those that some others have posted. Summarizing answers, full drops will be adjusted with the Goddess of Destruction update, as well as Adena drops, from what I understand. Please know we haven't been able to test the adjusted drop rates yet, but once we can begin testing, we will be able to better answer these questions. We'll also be able to better explain how Vitality is or is not tied to Adena drop amounts.

We do have some events planned between now and GoD launch, including some double drop/spoil periods. We don't have the ability to match Adena drops to Exp, and I don't think this would work particularly well, as high levels get hundreds of thousands of exp points per kill. This would affect the economy, not just drastically, but catastrophically. Perhaps I misunderstood your suggestion?

If I misunderstood any of your points, please correct me. :)

-Moxie


Thanks again Moxie for responding - to what is certainly a long post (apologize for that).

I basically was referring to matching adena drops more with Vitality levels, which seems to have already been addressed with the GoD update notes. It will be interesting to see how that works, and very encouraging.

I have to say, it is very encouraging and refreshing to see these questions being responded to so promptly and with such thought.

For those new players (and returning players) reading the forums - this is something really encouraging for our game of L2 that we enjoy so much! I know in our clan, we have been encouraging new members to look at the forums here.

I hadn't read them much in the past 7 years - but I'll say again, the responses (and posts) are VERY encouraging. Many of us aren't interested in big changes, but small things that will makethe game more enjoyable (I even like the idea of an L2 Shop in game - with limited items, start small - see how it goes from there). Even if not implemented, it means a lot that these ideas are at least considered by you all. We know that you are very busy - and we appreciate it a great deal.

[pix]

GM's check characters that are reported, as well as commonly used bot areas, and any reports we submit to them while playing. I've personally sent reports when I spot them during normal game play or during GM visits. They also patrol randomly around the world when time permits.

-Moxie

how do ur checks determine program use ? if u halfed my hp tbh im not sure id notice other than oo nearly dead click hp pot !

[Desert_Eagle]

Hello, Moxie!
I'm gently remind (c) :>

In GoD update there are will be Fame system update, fame will be actual just like adena does.
So, will be bug (or feature?) dead ppls farming fame at siege field fixed at last?

As for adding new servers, we will have to see what the population looks like after Goddess of Destruction release. This is something we are aware of and will be monitoring for.

I don't think I understand what you mean by an Alt server. Could you clarify this?

-Moxie


About alt server, ... an idea of my topic
http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=214767

I noticed each time after server transfers or merge, there alway was strong impulse for ingame activity and life. Same was each time new server opened.
Thats why I proposed a model with Main and Alt server I mentioned above.

[Dreamer]

Moxie,

can u tell us why we hear say soo often "we are planing" "soon" "working on it" while nothing happens?
I mean this community shows u soo many small bugs and u cant fix it while some of them require max 5min work.
Dont u think it would look at all better to the community if u fix 100 small bugs (like link updates to fansites, Library section at all :mad:, Castle Control info etc) then working endless on 1 thing u have no clue how to solve?

Dont u think this would attract new/restarting ppl more???
I mean coming back after some years break and seeing the site is still outdated... can u imagine what they think?

Also would like to know how u plan such bug fixes etc.? Have u any time window till it MUST be done?
I mean every company works like that, and if the responisble employees
arent finished in that then night shift and if still not done then..... :D

Hello Moxie,

looks like u missed my post(s)
Would be nice if u could answer atleast this.

TY

[washtak]

how do ur checks determine program use ? if u halfed my hp tbh im not sure id notice other than oo nearly dead click hp pot !

One of the check is to reduce a bit CP to see if it triggers an autoCP program. That or there are Nargles out there stealing CP when you XP.

[Dendrobates]

One of the check is to reduce a bit CP to see if it triggers an autoCP program. That or there are Nargles out there stealing CP when you XP.

Nargles! I knew they existed! I bet they're responsible for blowing up my weapons and armor, too! So Moxie, any plans to curb the Nargle infestation?

On a serious note, when it comes to the game emotes, are there any you or other staff would like to see?

[Nasicae]

Nargles! I knew they existed! I bet they're responsible for blowing up my weapons and armor, too! So Moxie, any plans to curb the Nargle infestation?

On a serious note, when it comes to the game emotes, are there any you or other staff would like to see?

I vote for group hug emote. Great for clan and party. There is nothing compares to the warm and fuzzy feeling of endless love (and trust) from the persons you know your life is depended on in a big hunt.

[Moonix]

I tried to read the 9 pages, you said several double exp event are planned before GoD.

Can we know when is the next :) ? Can we hope at least 1 event / month ? more/less ?

Another question, why you don't make Revita Pop tradable with Dimensional Merchant (or transform them into Chocolate cookies), I think I'm not alone to have at least 30+ revita pop on other chars we can't use on our main, a bit frustrating :p

[wasted]

GM's check characters that are reported, as well as commonly used bot areas, and any reports we submit to them while playing. I've personally sent reports when I spot them during normal game play or during GM visits. They also patrol randomly around the world when time permits.

-Moxie
keep in mind that we dont have low IQ,we all know that report someone atleast with bot button or ingame pettion nothing never happen,confirmed by so many ppl.

and i dont understand why u send report while u play and dont bann them by your own,u are the boss there!why protocols are so important for u there?make it simplier and faster for our good.

we still need clear up pvp cheater,we dont care for exp bots anymore,also confirmed by many ppl

edit:have u ever check if any of your reported chars(as normal player) got banned?

[Ykara]

I'll check on that ticket to see if I can better understand what you are reporting. As for Spam, I will let him know he is missed. I also want to point out what an amazing job the current GM Team has done. :) Let's not forget them!

-Moxie

ofc they aren't forgotten. :)

But Spam is Spam.. :)

[HGM Will]

One of the check is to reduce a bit CP to see if it triggers an autoCP program. That or there are Nargles out there stealing CP when you XP.

Not confirming or denying that these types of tests are or can be used to test for PvP cheats, but if someone continuously experiences CP/HP drops, it is most likely due to some sort of character issue as opposed to test for PvP cheating.

The majority of our tests we now use are designed to be less invasive/obvious and will usually go unnoticed.

[Moxie]

Hi Moxie,Sace , Cryo and the whole staff,

well u maybe seen i asked this question manny times along with a couple other players, but you should be able to answer:

Are there new skins for Dynasty/Vorpal/Vesper Robes and light armor for Dwarves and Orcs ?

If not could u please tell them to make some?
Its really not nice to be a dwarven healer for example and u look like a tank in those Dynasty robes/vorpal robes /Vesper robes ...

And if they changed ... could u link a picture please ?

I don't know if there are changes to those armor sets for Dwarves and Orcs. If they are not, we can put in a suggestion for this. The final decision is up to the Dev team and their available resources.

-Moxie

[ChikariShu]

I don't know if there are changes to those armor sets for Dwarves and Orcs. If they are not, we can put in a suggestion for this. The final decision is up to the Dev team and their available resources.

-Moxie

Thanks a lot on behalf of all Orc mages and Dwarves.

[Moxie]

Also, don't you plan to relax the payment options for L2? Make the serial code available for more countries, allow PayPal payment for Euro accounts... or maybe just remove the differences between US and Euro accounts altogether?

FYI - we are able to enable PayPal as a payment method for EU L2 accounts. This should be implemented during NCsoft Website maintenance next Wednesday, 6/8.

Thank you Krissa for bringing this to our attention! I am glad we were able to enable this payment method for our European players.

-Moxie

[Spudnik]

FYI - we are able to enable PayPal as a payment method for EU L2 accounts. This should be implemented during NCsoft Website maintenance next Wednesday, 6/8.

Thank you Krissa for bringing this to our attention! I am glad we were able to enable this payment method for our European players.

-Moxie sweet!!! i will inform some former friends of this.

[Fergu]

FYI - we are able to enable PayPal as a payment method for EU L2 accounts. This should be implemented during NCsoft Website maintenance next Wednesday, 6/8.

Thank you Krissa for bringing this to our attention! I am glad we were able to enable this payment method for our European players.

-Moxie

Maybe you could check dineromail, a payment method Blizzard has recently implemented for latin american players without access to a credit card, this could increase the player base, since most of my friends who play L2 do it on private servers

[Laby]

FYI - we are able to enable PayPal as a payment method for EU L2 accounts. This should be implemented during NCsoft Website maintenance next Wednesday, 6/8.

Thank you Krissa for bringing this to our attention! I am glad we were able to enable this payment method for our European players.

-Moxie
Great news, thx :D

[Pumuky]

HGM Will, what does some sort of character issue mean? because the other day it happened to someone who was farming a fort, twice, and it hapens to me pretty much everytime i go to xp, i even reported it several times and after several petitions the amounts that i lose, hp/cp/mp, have been significantly reduced.

[DrachaVonDrachen]

HGM Will, what does some sort of character issue mean? because the other day it happened to someone who was farming a fort, twice, and it hapens to me pretty much everytime i go to xp, i even reported it several times and after several petitions the amounts that i lose, hp/cp/mp, have been significantly reduced.

You should record the event and post it to the web for us to reference.

[Spudnik]

HGM Will, what does some sort of character issue mean? because the other day it happened to someone who was farming a fort, twice, and it hapens to me pretty much everytime i go to xp, i even reported it several times and after several petitions the amounts that i lose, hp/cp/mp, have been significantly reduced.

i imagine its the same type of issue that occurs when you crit error and your character is stuck. its not your fault, and not the gm's fault, but some glitch happened and struck you like lightning.

same type of issue, not directly the same issue.

[Pumuky]

next time it happens ill post a screenshot, is just hard to believe that after petitioning it happens with the same frequency but to a lesser extent.

[DrachaVonDrachen]

next time it happens ill post a screenshot, is just hard to believe that after petitioning it happens with the same frequency but to a lesser extent.

We need you to make a video of the event screenshots will not do.

[pix]

ive been deleted or ignored when ive previously asked - but ill try again ^^ what rules do gms operate under ?
ingame ones ive been told (by someone thats no reason to bs me) not only buffed him red but moved him to a spot where he could work it off better.
The forum ones so far as i can see mean well i get more deletes without an infraction now but tbh its more annoying when what u said is altered for no particular reason.

what rules govern u ?

[HGM Will]

HGM Will, what does some sort of character issue mean? because the other day it happened to someone who was farming a fort, twice, and it hapens to me pretty much everytime i go to xp, i even reported it several times and after several petitions the amounts that i lose, hp/cp/mp, have been significantly reduced.

If it is happening over and over, it might be a bug. Track the date/time it is happening and when you send in your help ticket, make sure to include that information so we can check the game logs to see what may be happening to the character during that time.

[HGM Will]

ive been deleted or ignored when ive previously asked - but ill try again ^^ what rules do gms operate under ?
ingame ones ive been told (by someone thats no reason to bs me) not only buffed him red but moved him to a spot where he could work it off better.
The forum ones so far as i can see mean well i get more deletes without an infraction now but tbh its more annoying when what u said is altered for no particular reason.

what rules govern u ?

I'm not sure I completely understand what you're saying here, but I'm going to take a guess anyways.

what rules do gms operate under ?

The GM's purpose is to assist players whenever possible as long as we do not interfering with regular game play or game design. This generally requires us to verify reported issues through our system logs before we can help a player to make sure that whatever happened was the result of a game bug. Sometimes our ability to assist can be limited by tools that are available or internal policies.

ingame ones ive been told (by someone thats no reason to bs me) not only buffed him red but moved him to a spot where he could work it off better.

This is not a function of the in-game GM team. We all take our job/responsibilities seriously and if anybody on the GM team is caught doing something like this, they would be seeking new employment (myself included).

People make up stories all the time. If I were a psychologist, I'd try to analyze why, but I'm not so I'll leave it up to your own interpretation.

The forum ones so far as i can see mean well i get more deletes without an infraction

Sace does an amazing job. I think majority of the people here would agree with me. All I can say is if a post/thread got removed or edited, it's because a rule was broken.

[ChikariShu]

HGM Will , i would also like to ask somthing about that.
Some players really pretend or insinuate that GM's help them.
And on some occasions i've actually seen things that's not possible , like a red player being removed when u hit him, not logged off , i really mean removed, and not by summoning.

Maybe need to look further into that, there's some players that "brag" a little too much for the smoke not to have a lil fire burning somewhere, and i would think its time to put it out.

[washtak]

Can the GMs repair a broken rule? :D

Now you announced you were chasing PvP programs, some players become paranoid and think their box was kicked out of the party as a test. Every bug will become a GM test now. Before, bug = feature, now bug = GM test. :p

[mcBuff]

If it is happening over and over, it might be a bug. Track the date/time it is happening and when you send in your help ticket, make sure to include that information so we can check the game logs to see what may be happening to the character during that time.

The funny thing is that it only happens to the main DD (we only need 1). There's always 8 or more characters there, only the main DD is having the issue; never the other characters.

[Nasicae]

HGM Will , i would also like to ask somthing about that.
Some players really pretend or insinuate that GM's help them.
And on some occasions i've actually seen things that's not possible , like a red player being removed when u hit him, not logged off , i really mean removed, and not by summoning.

Maybe need to look further into that, there's some players that "brag" a little too much for the smoke not to have a lil fire burning somewhere, and i would think its time to put it out.

Looks like someone was using program. I would report him.

[Dreamer]

When comes Player & Focus Chat - June 2011 ???

Still some questions (incl. 2 asked by me, 27th) from May arent answered.
We got a silent end already? No words from Moxxie since 1st June ><

[DrachaVonDrachen]

Moxie went on holiday with Sace.

[Syndella]

Moxie went on holiday with Sace.

:)

[Spudnik]

Moxie went on holiday with Sace.

:)

[Moxie]

I'm not on holiday yet! Have just had a busy few weeks. I will get some more answers in before the weekend.

-Moxie

[Spudnik]

HEY you sneaky edited my reply!!

[Syndella]

HEY you sneaky edited my reply!!

lol, without you I wouldn't have noticed - MINE TOO!!!! :P

[Moxie]

In GoD update there are will be Fame system update, fame will be actual just like adena does.
So, will be bug (or feature?) dead ppls farming fame at siege field fixed at last?

We can confirm there will be new items and skill usage associated with Fame. We do not know of any adjustments being made to how you can obtain Fame.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

Dear Moxie,
I agree with all the peoples wanting a new server and merge it with the older server after about 2 years.. and i will tell you why. Im lvl 76 myself and i have used quite a long time achieving lvl 76. and i see everywhere in giran, people with billions of adena and stuff and thousands of materials.. i just think that for all the new players, it must seem unachievable.
I myself can't raise that fast adena. People is lvl 85 everywhere. and there are S84 gears everywhere. and i myself use the 90 days of fortune set dynasty.. i just wish you could add another server with a fresh start and maybe lower prices at start. so that we can build up a society like 2004.. we just want the C5 or C6.. lvling without vitality was pain so i would really love to have that update in C4 if its possible. Because C4 is everyones favourite.
i believe i speak for many players when i say this. and sorry for my english grammar :P it ain't perfect.

While I certainly understand a lot of the good things that could come from opening a fresh server, there are also negative consequences to opening a server when there's no demand for it, population wise. It would be damaging to the population of the existing servers, so, for now, we are unable to open new servers.

Additionally, I think I referenced the latter part of your question earlier, but I'll reiterate. We cannot run a server that has an outdated build on it, as we would not be supported by the Development Team. They can only support the most recent updates across all territories. It would be irresponsible to provide an official server, running and older version of the game, which is unsupported by the Development team.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

Moxie,

can u tell us why we hear say soo often "we are planing" "soon" "working on it" while nothing happens?
I mean this community shows u soo many small bugs and u cant fix it while some of them require max 5min work.
Dont u think it would look at all better to the community if u fix 100 small bugs (like link updates to fansites, Library section at all :mad:, Castle Control info etc) then working endless on 1 thing u have no clue how to solve?

Dont u think this would attract new/restarting ppl more???
I mean coming back after some years break and seeing the site is still outdated... can u imagine what they think?

Also would like to know how u plan such bug fixes etc.? Have u any time window till it MUST be done?
I mean every company works like that, and if the responisble employees
arent finished in that then night shift and if still not done then..... :D

We say that things are being planned and worked on because they are. Things do happen, they are just not often pointed out, likely because of some longer looming things that haven't happened yet. Before the 7th Anniversary, there were questions on the boards as well as in-game when we visited about whether we were going to have an event or not. Our answers were "Yes, we're planning events and we will announce them soon!" Many things happened during the 7th Anniversary Celebrations and I'm really proud of all of our team for planning an executing so well.

Similarly, in this thread alone, one suggestion/question already resulted in a changes that are being implemented. (Paypal payment option for European accounts.)

There are many things that we can accomplish solely within the L2 team and we try to do as many of these things ourselves. There are also many things that can only be accomplished with the assistance of many other departments within NCsoft. These tasks take more planning, coordination, and time to accomplish.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

And because u havent played in a long time Raistlin u missed up on some big events and some ups in prices that were verry lucrative at some point, i still remember selling my stupid lance for over 100 mill when it was barely worth 20, and selling my bleu wolf set at the price of the top set at that time wich was DC robes for mages...

It's all the things u have missed, now its harder to make monney on the market , nothing to craft annymore.

And that's my question to you then Sace and moxie, what about craft in God ?
Heard ther ebe a lvl 11 craft for Maestro's , but only belts and pouches.
And then again i hear that everyone will eb able to craft shots and armor ?

What's true and what's not ?

From the Patch Notes thread (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=216369) shared by Cryo, see below. This is what we have translated only, but have not been able to verify yet. This is the only "Official" information we have at this time.

Craft System

Dwarfs can craft items of R-Grade or higher, regardless of their class.
Level 85+ characters who have completed their fourth class transfer automatically acquire the following skills:

Dwarfs: Create Item Skill Level 11.
All races: Create Common Item Skill Level 10.
All races can craft R-Grade belts, shirts, bracelets and elixirs.
Only Dwarfs can craft R-Grade Soulshots, Spiritshots and Blessed Spiritshots.
Addition of recipes to allow other players to craft R-Grade Soulshots, Spiritshots and Blessed Spiritshots with normal crafting skill. There is a low chance of obtaining recipes from the Adventurers' Guildsmen that appear in certain instanced dungeons by using Seals of Loyalty, Pledge, Sincerity or Spirit.
Conventional materials cannot be used to craft items of R-Grade or higher.
Players acquire "Unidentified" items by crafting weapons, armor or accessories of R-Grade or higher, and there is also a low chance of obtaining "Standard" or "Blessed" items.
The following materials required for crafting items of R-Grade or higher can be purchased from grocers in each village:

Crafting Solvent
Dualsword Craft Stamp - R-Grade.

[Moxie]

Questions about server transfers :
1. Why is there still a big limitation of transfer numbers? Why the transfers from Chronos (status: normal) to Naia (status: light) are blocked?
I understand you may want to avoid chaotic transfers on the first months of the opening of transfers for a server that didn't have them, but now? Is it nice when a group of players decide to transfer and they may have friends stuck alone on the previous server?

2. Will the limitations of the transfer (item transfered etc) be modified to update to the reality of the game nowadays? The needs of players in GoD aren't the same as those when transfers opened. Will it be adjusted?

1. Server transfers are limited strictly because of the time it takes to process them. The transfers should be open to both servers, however, they are both limited in how many can be processed each week.

2. I will check with the Dev team to see if they have any plans to change these limitations with Goddess of Destruction.

-Moxie

[unknowndancer]

Moxie, what about changes in PK(player killing) system in GoD?
There are no words about it in translated patchnotes but changes are very serious(if we read about it through googletranslate on korean powerwiki)

[Laby]

One question, still about GoD :D

Do you plan to do the same type of PTS that Korean had : Our characters on live server transfered to the PTS server so we could try GoD the best way ?

[Profeta]

I would like to ask, that do you plan any westernized changes to the Goddess of Destruction?

Now of course I don't think to, that EU/NA players get 36 4th classes or 9 members parties, because I understand, that can be so huge difference between the regions.

Example, EU players like make PK so they get lower karma or in the new clan war system the maximum of clan war number is 5, so you could make it to unlimited.

These type of changes we can say, don't mean any really difference between the game clients, but these very little changes can give much more fun to EU players.

As we could see in the High Five Promotion video, Steve Chae visited the NCwest and how you Moxie told to us asked you about our play style.

So if we could get this type of changes I think the players could feel, that the developers follow our wishes too.
I don't think, that some little changes in the western GD could mean much time and money, but the respect from this region to NCsoft would be high.

[wasted]

hi,

Moxie,Sace or any other there,can u give us an email or phone from NcKorea where we can comunicate with the ppl who takes dessicions about the LII in all territories especialy those who communicate with NcNA/EU?

im tottaly sick and tired of playing this game,the condition is no under any condrol anymore and im feel sorry if my words hit u,but is the thruth!

i want to get some answers from someone other than u on NA cause all my attempts fall into abyss.

regarding GOD update i want to know honestly if pvp programs gona stop to exist,if ppl who use them gona punished anytime,if we are gona be able to enjoy the new update in all his features.

as i say the condition is worst than any other time,i ll include u a pic from hero shouts from Naia server to prove u that im correct and that u dont simple monitoring anything.

this is from "public" hero shout,so im not gona hide the hero names.everyone on server who was loged was able to see it,thats why im not hide any name

ps)every day same coments-arguments on hero shout goes,even sometimes when gm is online and giving buffs

[Jorge]

What about ppl with 1 or 2 strikes who make a transfer server . It will reset to 0, or they will keep the strikes ban ?

[TetiusRaules]

1. Server transfers are limited strictly because of the time it takes to process them. The transfers should be open to both servers, however, they are both limited in how many can be processed each week.

2. I will check with the Dev team to see if they have any plans to change these limitations with Goddess of Destruction.

-Moxie

speaking about servers transfert

why some reward/collector items are not transferable ?

i can understand mats/adenas/regular stuff limitations but those very rare items we are sure we could not afford to get while playing are hard to loose ...

[Sparse]

What about ppl with 1 or 2 strikes who make a transfer server . It will reset to 0, or they will keep the strikes ban ?

A server transfer does not reset any previous account warning/violations.:)

[Syndella]

A server transfer does not reset any previous account warning/violations.:)

Your post count is a little.... sparse :D

[Sparse]

Your post count is a little.... sparse :D

http://www.ragemaker.net/images/Surprised%20-%20Amazed/surprised%20open%20mouth.png

[Retribution]

Here's a question for Moxie or the GMs. There is that long running thread about adena, and a lot of arguments about whether or not there is any real issue. Is it reasonably feasible for you guys to give us a snapshot of how much adena is on the servers atm and how much was removed from the game by sinks and bans recently? Also, perhaps a comparison to around the time of the merges.

[Rosalina]

Question1:

Is there any chance (whatsoever) that Anakim transforms might be nerfed to combat the rediculas nature of them in Seiges? They're an "iWin" button in Seiges, pure and simple - and it removes any normal form of PvP from the Seiges and turns them into somewhat of a joke.

Question2:

Any idea if the "Inquisitor" and "Vanguard" transforms for helaers & tanks will remain in GoD after the 4th class change?
Ie. Will we be able to use Inquisitor @lvl95, and for it to hit a lot harder than when lvl80 for example?
Does this work, or change even if you don't awaken?

[TetiusRaules]

:confused:
@ Dev + Cm+ Gm team
why my questions don't found any answers ????

[Moxie]

Is there any posibility that the raid map and flag position for the raids in game could be upadted, some of the raids dont exists any more and their flags remain and some of the flags are pretty far from where the actual raids are.
I do not know if this is being updated with Goddess of Destruction. I will send a request to our QA team to see if we can start a project to check and bug the raid flags that are outdated or incorrect.

Is there any posibility that you can tell us which of the threads that we make, if any, are read and considered, the suggestions, the comments, the ideas, threads that don't have a single post from any staff member pertaining to ncsoft, or are most forums just made so we argue among ourselves and blow off steam?
All of the threads are read by one person or another. Our Production team, Sace's Community team, the GM team, we all read them and have quite regular discussions about topics on the boards (not just relating to Goddess of Destruction, but all forum discussions.)

Can we expect the manor system to be updated soon, will you take any action against the bots which currently exploit the system?
I asked about any updates to the manor system for Goddess of Destruction and the Dev Team did not have plans to address it in this first update, but they do have plans to make changes at some point in the future. Nothing definitive yet.

When a gm goes out to test if people are botting, do they even bother to check if party chat, clan chat, private chat, ally chat, shout chat is being used or is it just some random occurence?

I ask because for the past three months i've barely have had time to xp at all, except the random raid and dungeon and the occasional xp session with clan members, almost all which amounts to what is considered less than a casual player and yet every single time when i go xp, after 2 hours my DD gets bot tested, (reduction of hp/mp/cp).

Even if you don't answer this because of your can't say policy (although if someone is being bot tested for a particular reason i think they should have the right to know, considering that toon is barely in game unless to get pm's from clan members needing anything, and in any case mostly in town or at a fort) thank you for reducing the amount of hp you take from roughly 50% of what i have at that time to something that doesnt get me killed and thank you for not doing it anymore every single time when im trying to zealot.
The GM's do regular checks to be sure they are making the right decision with a character being tested. I'm not sure if you read HGM Will's response to the hp/mp/cp issue before, however, he mentioned if you have a reduction of these stats on a regular basis, you may be experiencing a bug and should report it. This may not actually be a GM testing.

As for the website sections that are outdated, like the library one, in which you claim not to be able to really say anything about it, how about the truth? there are skills there like nowadays lvl 82 book skills which are still listed as level 81 skills, none of the will skills are there, some clases aparently get nothing after lvl 80 while others have the rune and such books at 81. Dynasty is the top armor as well as the top weapon. Anyone that knows anything about websites knows that it doesnt take a complete update to update lets say 1 page per week, just 1, mainly so returning players can know whats gong on and what to look for as they level, if not maybe take the library off-line and just put a link to a fansite which does take the time to upgrade all those things, either way, something rather than the can't comment, can't say policy.

If not the library, how about the New Player Guide, can you comment why that one is outdated as well? In all the time that newbie buffs can be obtained to level 75 no one has been able to update the page for new players? no one? really?.
My previous comments were not meant as a way to say that I am unable to comment on the status of the website. Rather, I meant that talking about wanting these changes to happen and telling players that we are working on it (which is true) is not what anyone needs to hear. It's not what I want to say because I know you all have heard that over and over. I would prefer to just get it done and let you know when that has happened.

"While playing Lineage II, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players." Rule of conduct number 1. So people can't scam, grief o randomly pk others to the extent those others quit game... and yet we get responses from ncsoft staff like:

"This particular situation can't be technically called a scam because all of the truth is plainly visible. Anyone making a purchase from another player is responsible for being careful to check the transaction items and amounts before accepting the purchase/sale/trade.

It's a Darwin test." http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=214067

I think the point of Sace's comment is that at some point, players will need to be mindful of what they are doing in-game. We try to intervene and help as much as we can, but there are some instances where players must be mindful.


"The Web Site is an active part of the Service..." So we are all paying for a service ncsoft is not providing and getting nothing in return?

Anyone with a minimum common sense who posts in these forums knows that the part of ncsoft that we deal with has their hands tied by the part of ncsoft which we have no access to, the one that makes and provides you with the game, the updates and many more other things, mainly the korean corporation part of ncsoft, the one all of the koreans complain to and get things acomplished.

Maybe you can give us some emails we can present our complains, queries and concerns to instead of continuing to make attempts that will ultimatly lead to us getting frustrated and you getting frustrated?, either way, starting with a few truths would be nice.

You're overworked, you're understaffed, theres only so many things you can do without having to ask for permission, you can't develop/edit/add/delete parts of the game without permission... these are facts most people here are aware of.

and yet, i'm pretty sure some of the people in this forums would help keep the site updated for the simple fact that we like this game.

Could you let me know where the bolded part is quoted from? I know it is likely in context to your followup, but it's hard for me to respond when I don't know where it came from or what context it was originally written in.

As to the remainder of the comments, the italicized sentence is very true. And while I wish we could invite a gaggle of volunteers to update our website, it's simply not an option we have, given many legal and corporate restrictions.

[Moxie]

Moxie,

Will there ever be a more leniant proposal to lift bans on players banned in the passed for use of 3rd party programs? I know recently there was a little amount that were let go, ever plan to do that again on a larger scale or? Also if it wasn't for money what was it for as to release just a few people to play again doesn't seem like it was fully worth the proposal.

When we implemented a new policy for giving out warnings, we had contact from players whose accounts were banned in the past, without the benefit of the warnings. After consideration, the GM team felt it appropriate to give those players an opportunity for review and for another chance. The process for review was pretty strict and will not likely change in the future.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

I tried to read the 9 pages, you said several double exp event are planned before GoD.

Can we know when is the next :) ? Can we hope at least 1 event / month ? more/less ?

Another question, why you don't make Revita Pop tradable with Dimensional Merchant (or transform them into Chocolate cookies), I think I'm not alone to have at least 30+ revita pop on other chars we can't use on our main, a bit frustrating :p

We mentioned previously that the next Double XP event will be mid-July. The process of changing the Revita Pop to being tradable at the Dimensional Merchant is one that the Dev team would have to make. This is something we might consider in the future.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

keep in mind that we dont have low IQ,we all know that report someone atleast with bot button or ingame pettion nothing never happen,confirmed by so many ppl.

and i dont understand why u send report while u play and dont bann them by your own,u are the boss there!why protocols are so important for u there?make it simplier and faster for our good.

we still need clear up pvp cheater,we dont care for exp bots anymore,also confirmed by many ppl

edit:have u ever check if any of your reported chars(as normal player) got banned?

I don't ban them myself because there are specific procedures the GM's use when checking/banning characters. All of their steps must be documented appropriately. I do not interfere with the documentation process and prefer to let all of these related things stay within the GM team for consistency purposes.

When we send reports to the GM team, they usually let us know what the results were.

We are aware of the issue with people who use third party programs during PvP. This is a high priority for us right now and some adjustments have been/are being made to help combat it.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

speaking about servers transfert

why some reward/collector items are not transferable ?

i can understand mats/adenas/regular stuff limitations but those very rare items we are sure we could not afford to get while playing are hard to loose ...

Items that are not transferable are set by the Dev team. We can make requests for things to be transferable, however, the final decision is up to the Dev team. What items are you referring to? There may be specific reasons for different items, so I would need to know which items you mean in order to answer more directly.

-Moxie

[Moxie]

Moxie, what about changes in PK(player killing) system in GoD?
There are no words about it in translated patchnotes but changes are very serious(if we read about it through googletranslate on korean powerwiki)

We are currently translating the final patch notes and will know if there's more information in there about it. If there's no information in the patch notes, we can ask the Dev team what changes are happening with the PK system.

-Moxie

[DrachaVonDrachen]

Flying carpets... can we get flying carpets for everyone? I am sure everyone will be much happier if they could sit and gaze upon Anghel Waterfall, atop their own magic carpet. Can I get a royal blue pattern please? Oh, I almost forgot, thanks for taking the time to address our questions!

[Laby]

I don't ban them myself because there are specific procedures the GM's use when checking/banning characters. All of their steps must be documented appropriately. I do not interfere with the documentation process and prefer to let all of these related things stay within the GM team for consistency purposes.

When we send reports to the GM team, they usually let us know what the results were.

We are aware of the issue with people who use third party programs during PvP. This is a high priority for us right now and some adjustments have been/are being made to help combat it.

-Moxie
Hello Moxie,

Are these rules applicable when you see somebody doing advertising for a RMT Site ? I remember you (or Sace) saying you could directly ban them when you see them (and it's not really hard to see if somebody is shouting for a RMT site or not :P)

[TetiusRaules]

Items that are not transferable are set by the Dev team. We can make requests for things to be transferable, however, the final decision is up to the Dev team. What items are you referring to? There may be specific reasons for different items, so I would need to know which items you mean in order to answer more directly.

-Moxie
here come answer and a few adding questions :

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From the rules :
What is Non-Transferrable?
The following items will not be transferred.
All items in your inventory that are not equipped.
Items in your warehouses and freight.

I speak about items like (list is not complete) :

- Panda agathion and other rare items given as contest rewards,
- Daewonsoo agathion and others appreciation gifts,
- All agathions from past events (like Cupid one)
- Chrono souvenirs
- cloaks from quests/events
- one shot quest items (raccoon, rabbit and those ears, formal dress, dawn bracelet, palaika rewards...)

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Speaking about formal...
Why not open cloak equipement hability ?
The pearl anniversary one fits nicely with it and i'm pretty sure some players would enjoy to wear both at same time (with level limitations of course).

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I remember Dev team told us, when fantaisy island released, we will got a Wedding feature coming with it. When this feature is about to come ?
Will we get wedding rings as the same as they were existing for Lineage ?

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What will happen to festival exclusive drops like scars and butterfly hairpin ?
They were rare but at least we got a very little chance to get them.
Today with GoD upcoming and catacomb/festival enclose ....

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Thanks again Moxie, Cryo, Will, Sparse for this topic ans your answers.

[Dreamer]

Dear Moxie,

can u give us a list with all the bugs/updates (library, castle control etc.) u are working off/waiting for fixes from Korea and the estimated time till it should be fixed? (Dont belive that in ur company doesnt exist a time limit in which the employees must do their work)

Cos seriously, most of us long players dont trust the "we are working on it" anymore. Too much is way too long known without a fix.
Think this would be a huge step to get the trust back from many paying customers.

Regards

[Sace]

Moxie is out of town on vacation this week. For now, we’re closing this "May 2011" Focus Chat thread to let things settle and the knowledge digest. We’ll open a new thread for more conversation in the near future, and we’ll answer any remaining questions from this thread at that time. :)