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kpride4eva
05-30-2012, 02:32 PM
Hey fellow enchanters. I have a questioin in regards to kartia solo.

I have no issues running the dungeon till the last room.
CUrrently I have my armors enchanted to +3 and dual blunt to +3 as well.

What would be helpfull for me to do this quest without too many issues.

I keep on getting caught around stage 5 or 6 and that's where i die often.

I tried changing to stone, but i keep on getting hit.

Anyone experienced enough in this quest that can give me some feedback?

Yunalesca
05-30-2012, 05:16 PM
uuh, dont hit anything.

kpride4eva
05-30-2012, 05:17 PM
ok... so let the partners do the job and wait~! ... when boss approaches change to stone?

Display_Name
05-30-2012, 07:05 PM
lol, no need to use pathetic skills like "turn stone", just make enough fire defence attribute, for example, 280 fire resist is enough for me to tank any mobs and final boss too.

New_Beginning
05-30-2012, 07:07 PM
Make sure you're running around a lot. I try my best to group up monsters by running in circles, then run in and hit my two AOEs, then run back out. If you're strong enough, the two AOEs will kill most of the wave. The caster mobs, at least for me, are mostly ignorable unless there's over 4 of them. The melee ones are the danger. Make sure you're bringing the healer NPC too. And use Knight's Harmony. Also, for the boss, don't be afraid to run away until the NPCs get aggro on him again. He'll fear you a lot, so you're gonna be running either way.

Jayntan
05-31-2012, 02:27 AM
tried it 3 times tuesday on my ISS got totally pwned by end boss every time.
1st time didnt save any prisoners
2nd time saved all but 2
3rd time saved all

the prisoners got laughed at at stage 5 in last room or so and got steamrolled by mobs. Even with me NOT hitting anything the end boss would aggro me after first fear and kill me :(
Guess I'll have to try again when my ISS hits 86.
Nursery is a joke though.
On my Sigel (86) i strugle to get 1600+ points
On my Feoh (85) I dont even dare go in there on this paper dude
On the ISS (85) I get ATLEAST 2000 points everytime.

TonyElf1
05-31-2012, 02:32 AM
Consider finding a friend healer to give you salvation until you get the hang of completing Kartia on a regular basis.

When you save the prisoners you want to constantly use chain heal to keep them alive when attacking mobs..

electra07
05-31-2012, 02:47 AM
ok... so let the partners do the job and wait~! ... when boss approaches change to stone?


Are you using DM at all ? It doesn't seem as if you are & this is perhaps where your going wrong.

Use DM after you have completed each round for now, then wait till tank aggros mobs in a nice batch, then spam AOE on the groups of mobs near tank. Recast DM once everything is dead.

brezu
05-31-2012, 03:15 AM
"When you save the prisoners you want to constantly use chain heal to keep them alive when attacking mobs.."


"Use DM after you have completed each round for now, then wait till tank aggros mobs in a nice batch, then spam AOE on the groups of mobs near tank. Recast DM once everything is dead."

good advices , with 8-10 saved prisoners it's realy easy to kill zelaka , spam heal on them and on you, maybe use celestial aegis at the begining of zelaka, you will have imunity for 30 seconds , not sure but when you are in celestial you can't do damage or the buff will be canceled (lf confirm), so just stay and heal the prisoners till the mobs are gone , after that just give zelaka the 2 debufs for attack/defense ( solo or aoe) then heal , repeat, and don't stay between him and the wall , when you get feared zelaka will catch you only with 2-3 seconds of fear remaining so he shouldn't be able to give you more than 1 hit, heal or run and heal, depending on how full your hp bar is; hope it helps :)

Feyd1980
05-31-2012, 05:46 AM
How can anyone struggle in Kartia with an ISS? I am usually more busy checking Internet on my laptop rather than looking at the screen. Devil's movement all the time, cast knight harmony on you, stay away from Zellaka, and cast polymorph and quick escape if needed when he charges to you. That is all.

TBH, my 88 Feoh has more problems than my 85 ISS in that solo instance.

Tiferet1
05-31-2012, 06:01 AM
lol, no need to use pathetic skills like "turn stone", just make enough fire defence attribute, for example, 280 fire resist is enough for me to tank any mobs and final boss too.
Zellaka is dark-aligned, not fire.

kpride4eva
05-31-2012, 09:36 AM
Funny thing was that I completely forgot about DM ROFLMAO Thank you guys.... Noob :rolleyes:

SydBarret
06-01-2012, 02:48 AM
I allways take archer/warri/healer.
Then, for the first part, I use warrior to make it more fast.
in the middle room, use dm before you enter the room. wait for the npcs to kill some monsters and then change to knight and use yours aoe and single in the dimensional keeper moob (the semi raid).

after some hits that npc run to the 3rd stage, dont run agains him, even if you kill him they reapear in the 4 round of the final stage.

For the 1st, 2nd and 3rd round, kill with aoe, then every round use devil before the round start.

Wait for the npc to take agro, and to kills some moobs. then use your AOE skill and focus on the dimensional keeper with debuffs/single skills.
If you do this well, the semi-raid will be killed before the 7 stage. And the only think that you need to do is wait for the npc to kill moobs and run around by healing yourself.
If the semi-raid stay up when zelakas come, run even more , an still focus on the dimensional untill they are killed.

When the moobs was killed by the npcs, stay run untill zelaka takes the aggro of the tank/warri, when that happen, aproach with rush spam your skills, and run again untill the aggro again go to the tank.
Repeat this every time (remember that, after some time, an a small group of moobs will reapear, use mas dark root agains them and run and heal if you need it, then use aoe to kill).

Some tips:

Its much more hard to do the kartia solo until lvl86 (with the immo/requiem from the diplomas), and you dont need that, you can bbe 86 if you only do the party in less than 4-5 days (witout vita).

Dont save the prisionners, you allways loose 3 or 4 of them and they die very fast in the final. And, if you keep them you heal melody will heal you much more less.

Allways use the npcs, the can do a lot of damage if you let him kill.

Never try to kill all by yourself. If you stay in the middle of all the moobs you will die very fast.

Hit and run allways, but not run in line, just run in a circle around your npcs (if you run in line, the npc will be re-positioned in front of you). Try to learn the range of the fear skill of zelaka, and then run outside the range (and he have a aoe skill who do a lot of damage too).

if you take the fear, anticipate to the end of the skill by start target yourselff, so, when the fear gone, you can heal more fast. Remember that, zelaka allways go behind you, so heal 1 time (if you need it) and the quikly move to regroup the npcs.

Be patient, you are an assist pj, so, the kartia will take you more time than a DD, but you can still do this, if you kill in the correct situation.

Good luck

brezu
06-01-2012, 03:23 AM
^^
Dont save the prisionners, you allways loose 3 or 4 of them and they die very fast in the final. And, if you keep them you heal melody will heal you much more less.


if zelaka is dealing damage on prisoners, you won't need heal , and when he casts fear, all npcs including prisoners will get feared ( maybe healer and summoner wont if they keep distance) and they will spread all over the room , so when zelaka follows you , you will have 2-3 npcs in your proximity and will not afect the heal casted on yourself ; saving prisoners it's a must imo, especialy when you're 85 .

Retri
06-01-2012, 08:20 AM
The prisoners are a lot weaker than they used to be. First of all, make a macro for your hot bar. 1st line: /target (your name) 2nd line: (drag healing melody onto this line). Put that macro on your bar. Use wiz harmony and do both aoe skills near a group of the mobs. If that doesn't kill them then go rock and pop back out after they have refreshed.

I see a lot of enchanters putting knights and warriors on, and it's a mistake in most situations. Enchanters are dependent on their skills, and the sooner they refresh the better off you are. Against the final kartia boss, Knights is probably a good idea for most of you, but otherwise just stick to wizards (it will also allow you to kite more easily). I've never tried the DM thing, but I guess it could work for you if you're having issues. I'm a bigger fan of using the rock though.

On the final stage just kite around and aoe the mobs, and don't go near the boss until the other mobs are mostly dead. If you get the boss on you too soon or run low on HP pop into rock to shake off the aggro, then move away to an area with no mobs before coming out of the transform. Remember to use shadow blade on the boss, as well as cripple.

Astarothy
06-02-2012, 03:19 PM
How can anyone struggle in Kartia with an ISS? I am usually more busy checking Internet on my laptop rather than looking at the screen. Devil's movement all the time, cast knight harmony on you, stay away from Zellaka, and cast polymorph and quick escape if needed when he charges to you. That is all.

TBH, my 88 Feoh has more problems than my 85 ISS in that solo instance.

The OP clearly seek for tips to help him, not one's arrogance for sure. serious, some people (like you, tbh) must stop with this trash-talk "i-can-do-with-a-hand-in-my-butt", making it sounds like a fresh piece of cake and everyone is a total failure tryin it. Dont be too proud, Mr. Failure: no way you can manage kartia with a 85 iss too smooth like u dare to say and I'd advice some research on youtube about feoh's kartia solo or even a reroll - sometimes I wonder how ones manage to go too far.

Smittie
06-02-2012, 04:41 PM
How can he have trouble with Kartia 85 on 88 Feoh?

Ive been doing it blindfolded while picking my nose on my Feoh since 85...

:D

Mauricio
06-02-2012, 11:49 PM
The OP clearly seek for tips to help him, not one's arrogance for sure. serious, some people (like you, tbh) must stop with this trash-talk "i-can-do-with-a-hand-in-my-butt", making it sounds like a fresh piece of cake and everyone is a total failure tryin it. Dont be too proud, Mr. Failure: no way you can manage kartia with a 85 iss too smooth like u dare to say and I'd advice some research on youtube about feoh's kartia solo or even a reroll - sometimes I wonder how ones manage to go too far.

I've made kartia on all chars, except for Tyrr and Aeore. I had no troubles to make it on any char at lv85 in Dynasty(no S80 in my time) armor and weapow. Even on dagger or feoh (just had to use my Mount to run from zelaka).
And yes, its very simple to do as Iss Enchanter, compared to other classes.

Its all about knowing how to do the instance using propely each skill.
I know high lvl Feoh that still cant do even on TW set lol

Feyd1980
06-03-2012, 03:48 AM
The OP clearly seek for tips to help him, not one's arrogance for sure. serious, some people (like you, tbh) must stop with this trash-talk "i-can-do-with-a-hand-in-my-butt", making it sounds like a fresh piece of cake and everyone is a total failure tryin it. Dont be too proud, Mr. Failure: no way you can manage kartia with a 85 iss too smooth like u dare to say and I'd advice some research on youtube about feoh's kartia solo or even a reroll - sometimes I wonder how ones manage to go too far.

Sorry to sound arrogant, but yes, Kartia 85 is just a joke with ISS, and yeah I can manage it perfectly fine even with the free Vorpal armor. When you have multiple AFK skills like polymorph and quick escape, and Devil's movement before Zellaka, you can easily do it one handed. As long as you don't go out, make yourself a hero and target out there, it might take maybe 5 more minutes, but it is perfectly doable in 85 ISS.

I did not say I can't finish Kartia in 88 FeoH but there is no way I can handle Zellaka one handed like I do with an ISS because of the stupid graphics, whenever I take the horse or jump and jump, the stupid group members keep falling from the sky all the time (because apparently they have to be close to me), it takes ages to kill Zellaka that way because of the group fear and I have to jump and horse run all the time because I am much more squishy than an ISS who has the skills to drive Zellaka away from him.

Rhyshaelkan
06-03-2012, 01:53 PM
I might be a touch too aggressive in Kartia then. When Zell finally shows up it usually becomes a cycle of debuff debuff, chain heal, debuff debuff, chain heal, Oh he is about to Fear!, Angel Touch, rinse, repeat. Chain Heal to keep the rescued prisoners alive more than myself.