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Old 04-15-2012, 07:06 AM   #1
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Default suggestion to lack of tanks

So each day getting in kartia takes awfully long time, why.. because lack of tanks. No one just wants to play them and can't really blame.

What if Tyrr and Sigel were combined.. tank skills being used when there was shield and tyrr skills when 2handed weapons or something like that. Now every melee could take role of tank to save up peoples time and increase enjoyment of game.

Well not that it will happen ever, but gots plenty of time to make suggestion while waiting to find one tank >.<
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:50 AM   #2
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Default Re: suggestion to lack of tanks

if people are concerned about this, how about you guys just
make a tank alt or sub
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:31 AM   #3
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Default Re: suggestion to lack of tanks

Sure i have tank coming up.. but he is stuck on level 40.

I don't see how that helps my main anyway.. can't play 2 characters at same time, (well unless other is just on follow mode. )

And that doesn't make knights any more interesting or fun to play.
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:04 AM   #4
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Default Re: suggestion to lack of tanks

Lack of tankers and healers is most because people don't like to take supporting roles in a PVE/PVP for the most part of the players. They want to kill, not help someone to kill(not saying that Tankers and Healers can't do it, just saying its not their primary purpose in a party)

Also, they are hard to level in the corrent state of the game, that people have better solo places to level than group places until 85, so most people don't bother.
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Old 04-15-2012, 04:52 PM   #5
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Default Re: suggestion to lack of tanks

So instead of making more tanks play, you want to make it so even less tanks play? lol

Making a tank not needed will kill tanks as a class (again) in the game.

If you want tanks, level some up (recruit them via acad and actually help them level), or make friends with tanks.

Another point that Natalia made is true, but more so in the case of the newcomers of GoD because a vast number of them come from private servers and their mentality is different.

This game is a group/social oriented game, if people keep thinking that they're a "one man show", they'll fail. In order to succeed you need teammates, and in order to gain good teammates you have to make some sacrifices. Helping a tank from 1-85 is a very minimal sacrifice for the amount of potential gains you get.

Also I might have a enchanter trailing me from 1-78 on my new tank, but it's still hella easy to get those levels when I only play a couple hours a day and it's only took 5 days.

Basically, stop making excuse for your own convenience. If you want something, you gotta work for it. If you're lucky and got something without working for it, don't take it for granted, as it might be taken away from you.
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:28 PM   #6
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Default Re: suggestion to lack of tanks

in the update after Tauti, Glory Days, both Tanks & Healers get new skills that will boost their pve ability significantly.. to bad it will take at least 6+ Months before we'll see that here..
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:59 PM   #7
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Default Re: suggestion to lack of tanks

As a tank I can say that solo leveling is a nightmare since your damage sucks and everyone and their mom KSes you, can't talk about party leveling since haven't tried it much, hope things 85+ get better since how they made it.

So take this as a note, don't ks tanks because that ks might be the last drop and they'll end up switching to a DD, same for healers.
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:01 PM   #8
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Trux are you using vanguard stance? Cos with it I can kill most 1x HP mobs with 1 skill chain (Tribunal + cleave + guillotine and if it doesn't kill i use the aoe one)
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Old 04-15-2012, 08:10 PM   #9
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I am and it takes me around 30 secs to kill a sel mahum group (only place where I've seen I can exp at a "good" rate) but thats no use when a pole or an Iss comes, and on 1v1 same thing, sure I can kill then using that skill chain but its no use when the same mob can be killed in a couple of hits (skill and normal from what I've seen) by pretty much anyone (once got ksed by a healer).
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:52 PM   #10
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What if Tyrr and Sigel were combined.. tank skills being used when there was shield and tyrr skills when 2handed weapons or something like that. Now every melee could take role of tank to save up peoples time and increase enjoyment of game.
Is actually not a bad idea, I would support this. Plus it would give tanks some capacity to solo better. I don't think they will do this as tank is really it's own thing but, I can understand if it is sucking to solo level it. But with ppl constantly begging for tank in parties, should not really ever have to solo (85+). Healers and tanks can fill their day with back to back soa daily parties if they want.

Btw anyone knows the ETA of Tauti?
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Old 04-16-2012, 03:25 AM   #11
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Give wynn bears the ability to aoe hate

would solve all tank problems cause in most cases it would be good enough for dailys like kartia and soa
I would still take a real tank if possible cause they have more tools to work with
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:24 AM   #12
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Is actually not a bad idea, I would support this. Plus it would give tanks some capacity to solo better. I don't think they will do this as tank is really it's own thing but, I can understand if it is sucking to solo level it. But with ppl constantly begging for tank in parties, should not really ever have to solo (85+). Healers and tanks can fill their day with back to back soa daily parties if they want.

Btw anyone knows the ETA of Tauti?
Most ex-Hellknights I found said the same thing to me:

The Lion sucks, they wanted the Lion to be good was the panther was in the past, so they could solo better.

IDK, I think too the panther is way cooler than the Lion. The Lion need more damage to justify the P.Def lost by the price of summoning.
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:25 AM   #13
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Default Re: suggestion to lack of tanks

i created a tank because i love being a combat healer using awesome skills like sacrifice,touch of life etc (pre-god). but today, im using my tank as a past time, a stress reliever. not a pt helper anymore. they are not really hard to level as long as you have adena and better gear.
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:31 PM   #14
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they are not really hard to level as long as you have adena and better gear.
or a 2nd account for the a Feoh Wiz or Winn Summoner to p.lvl the tank. lol

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Old 04-16-2012, 05:40 PM   #15
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Lack of tankers and healers is most because people don't like to take supporting roles in a PVE/PVP for the most part of the players. They want to kill, not help someone to kill(not saying that Tankers and Healers can't do it, just saying its not their primary purpose in a party)

Also, they are hard to level in the corrent state of the game, that people have better solo places to level than group places until 85, so most people don't bother.
I loved playing a tank until NC managed to **** them up and turn them into worthless meat shields... i went from having dozens of useful skills and combos to having 4 worthwhile skills and jus mashing them repititiously.
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:16 PM   #16
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truly the Lion looks fricking ******ed, like a big downy shar pei.

old tank panther was indeed way cooler looking :/

fyi the healer summon is also a crap-tastic (= bad) DD. better use for it is as hp pool because it has a ***-ton of hp (25k last I checked)

tanks can level easy mode in harnaks, smash aoe hate button in center of room (and in fact can be boxed like this, lol?) It would also be good to give tanks back some heals.
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:51 PM   #17
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healer summon was never made to DD
what u should say is that its a bad tank, cause thats what it is..
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:41 PM   #18
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Basically, stop making excuse for your own convenience. If you want something, you gotta work for it. If you're lucky and got something without working for it, don't take it for granted, as it might be taken away from you.
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:20 PM   #19
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I would say dont roll a tank as first char,without your own iss and someone to plvl at 77 it will slower,but can be done.
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Join a big clan/alli and u will have groups 24/7

Our higest players are tanks
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