R.I.P Enigma

[TheGGx]

Self Explanatory ^^
Everyones free to start a discussion of how this "empire" fell

I hope new clans start forming otherwise this server will die completely under Laws control....or at least allow server transfers so other clans can compete with them. Enjoy!

[Rumble]

History is bound to repeat itself. TWO was thought to be unbeatable until it self-destructed and most of us left the game. The same went for Enigma and, eventually, Law. Nothing lasts forever.

Rest in peace, Enigma.

[-Nemesis-]

Deja-vu..

Greetings, Nemesis.

[Papucel]

Maybe is better to say GG Law/bots RIP Bartz ?

[IssO]

Maybe is better to say Papucel missed Enigma bandwagon ;-)

[Waterfallz]

Soooo what happened with enigma anyways? Why would anyone work so hard and then quit when they are on top? It doesn't make any sense to me. There many many rumors going around on how all enigmas top cps got banned for stripped by ncsoft for botting/rmt/eula violations. Is this why enigma broke up? I demand closure dammit

[Eina]

No enigma were baned or kicked due to 3rd part soft using.
Simple cuz enigma is against any of those things user.
people can say what ever they want this is the truth and if any have any proof . i'm open and ready to see it .

That appart. Enigma just reconsider his "clan type expectation" That mean we just went back to the True Roots of Enigma.
A Clan based on Cp. All peopel who joined other clans made there choices alone and noone was kicked from enigma.

[Lucky420]

Originally Posted by Waterfallz

Soooo what happened with enigma anyways? Why would anyone work so hard and then quit when they are on top? It doesn't make any sense to me. There many many rumors going around on how all enigmas top cps got banned for stripped by ncsoft for botting/rmt/eula violations. Is this why enigma broke up? I demand closure dammit

This is the only plausible explanation and exactly what happened.

[ERYahiko]

Originally Posted by Eina

No enigma were baned or kicked due to 3rd part soft using.
Simple cuz enigma is against any of those things user.
people can say what ever they want this is the truth and if any have any proof . i'm open and ready to see it .

That appart. Enigma just reconsider his "clan type expectation" That mean we just went back to the True Roots of Enigma.
A Clan based on Cp. All peopel who joined other clans made there choices alone and noone was kicked from enigma.

If none of you have been kicked out may you explains me why you we're tagless for ~24h and you tried to exp close to Law members without pulling a fight? How come as a proud enigma member have you left and rejoin? I love how did they use you as mere tools, kicking out their best members when they could of had kept you in the clan the whole time. What disapoint me is after you see them doing such a move you still beg in order to rejoins.

[Eina]

Clueless people 'll remain clueles speople whatever may happen.

Enigma before Clean = 150member +
Enigma After Clean = Max 40 people

To Clean your House and remake all your walls, ground, roof etc. sometimes you put everything outside, even people and only worker remain.
After you take back clean, nice, usefull things.

This is what happen to enigma.
Fed up to see after a night VERY INFERIOR against Law cuz a member fed.
Fed up to see NonCP people complaining about gear, stuff etc without doing nothing.

This would be my last post on this topic.

[ERYahiko]

I do not think the problem during that war was your lower levels. You are making your war agains't Law to very inferior every campain and during castle sieges. Last siege score was 657 kills vs 128 death. Its also the fact that your CP is trying to step in orbis and you end up being wiped every time and then u send tagged healers / iss to rezs and by the same time to give us more points.

Dont call that others are clueless when your CP is the main problem in order to win a war.

As I said if you guys wish to exp in orbis, buy orbis pass from us.

[SauceyBoss]

Next Clan Super Power on Bartz after Enigma + Law = Stronghold.

[Sinz]

^+1

[Rumble]

Originally Posted by SauceyBoss

Next Clan Super Power on Bartz after Enigma + Law = Stronghold.

not sure if serious.

the 2 pt of Law still murdered your entire clan + your "friends" 2100 kills to 37 deaths last siege :/

[Sinz]

When certain individuals use certain methods which are not appropriate for a player community, your bragging rights are voided. You have no argument nor do you have a player community within your ranks. You are of no worth to the player community.

[Rumble]

Originally Posted by Sinz

When certain individuals use certain methods which are not appropriate for a player community, your bragging rights are voided. You have no argument nor do you have a player community within your ranks. You are of no worth to the player community.

rofl. your first argument that your clan is the best is voided by the fact that you got pwned. there is no need to argue on my side but to point out the obvious to prevent your non-existent "bragging rights." gf uneducated euro server.

[Truxardor]

Originally Posted by Rumble

...uneducated euro server.

Care to explain?

[Papucel]

U can`t put SH as a top clan or any clans as top,not untill you reach a good lvl to compete with the cp`s who already have 98/99 lvl.Boted or not,it`s not the issue...you just can`t compete..even with odds 3 to 1 you`re still gonna lose couse of the lvl diference.Atm law/enigma and paranormaiii have best cp`s imo.U just gotta wait a little longer untill you can fight for top clan rank

[Rumble]

Originally Posted by Truxardor

Care to explain?

bartz is infested with europeans, especially the greeks, french, etc. north americans like myself are probably the minority here. and no, low lvls who do not siege/pvp do not count toward this population. about the word "uneducated"... well... read his argument and find any sense in it.

Originally Posted by Papucel

U can`t put SH as a top clan or any clans as top,not untill you reach a good lvl to compete with the cp`s who already have 98/99 lvl.Boted or not,it`s not the issue...you just can`t compete..even with odds 3 to 1 you`re still gonna lose couse of the lvl diference.Atm law/enigma and paranormaiii have best cp`s imo.U just gotta wait a little longer untill you can fight for top clan rank

I totally agree, except that it was 10:1 or 15:1 instead of 3:1.

[Papucel]

i was giving a general example,and it`s true,no point in hiding it