Magmeld is doomed

[Mikael]

Magmeld is dying.
The main reason is the large number of bots that took over the server. MoS, Imperial Tomb, GoG lower, Giants Cave, all these places are infested by limiting them to players lower lvl uping only Toi and while in Crypt of Disgrace, that talking about players who are alone in the server that do not have friends level higher to help him up.
The server is thrown flies because it seems that the staff is not concerned with the excessive number of bots that permeated the server and is literally driving out players here.
Many stopped playing or moved to other servers fuller.
The competition between clans, in my opinion does not exist. Everything is focused on DV vs. Genocide. Clans technically be chosen from the side of one or the other or else keeps neutral.
The market is very weak, the values ​​are outside the realm of many players. But greed is part of being human, can not help.
I do not know the solution to the problem of bots, much has already been posted about this and nothing has been done or proved on the bots reported, but something must be done because it is destroying the server. I do not know if my opinion is shared by other players and would like to know of you about it.
Sorry for my english

[Can'tTouchThisNub]

Seriously I'm sick of hearing this Botting ********. You know nothing is happening so why complain I am doing perfectly fine and I'm not Botting it's just people look for a reason to QQ cause there low level I'm 95 and not having issues yes the server is split into two clans but that's becuz no one has made an effort into try and through these clans both Geno and DV dedicated to run this server no one else has so why complain its not Geno or Dv's fault there organized and well structured so why complain about a clan who has developed since magmeld it is not there faults that no other clan has the balls to step up and every clan you go to has bots in it so why complain you know magmeld has bots so switch server if it's an issue where ever you there will be bots NAIA Chronos Bart's magmeld etc these servers consist of the same issue botters and top clan that everyone is so scared of. If your dedicated enough make a clan ally with others who have the same issue Zerg them if your clan cant take them alone use should ally get levels. Understand this is a PVP Game get that through your head I'm not picking sides or anything it is the truth..

[Rangur]

Oh my. I think any advice to make shorter sentences would be lost on someone choosing to have "Nub" in his forum name.

Becoming a clan with many very high leveled members compared to the rest of the server was not tied to supreme organization or being "dedicated". The reasons some clans have much higher level members are these:

1) Having a headstart in many cases (transfed highlevel geared characters while other players were still struggling without ISS buffs or mentors)
2) Levelling undisturbed in highlevel areas because of 1)
3) Botting main chars
4) Botting additional chars to farm mentee coins

That is all there is to it. Most of the very high levelled players are cheaters, nothing more.

[New_Beginning]

Chronos has tons of bots in all the same places. You'd think NCSoft might get a clue and sweep these areas a couple times a week on each server, but it doesn't seem to be a priority for them.

[Mikael]

The issue is not the fact of Genocide and DV dominate the server, it matters little to me. All servers have bots and to be honest I believe that at least 90% of lvl 95 + are or were botters with rare exceptions, magmeld speaking of course.
It is true that there should be a third force to unbalance the equilibrium between Geno and DV, clans are already strong enough for that, I think, but they lack the courage to do so.
Perhaps it is true that the staff do not see the bots as an urgent problem, and then I wonder what else is discouraging the players magmeld?
Bots? Yes they are a big problem, but the staff does not believe that is a priority to resolve this, maybe.
Well the good areas to drop adena are technically closed by bots and their owners, get adena only in higher levels.
What I wish it is to create a healthy debate about it, the server issues and what we can do for not to leave it as empty as it is now.

[Mikael]

Is it just me or the chance to drop decreased in certain areas? I do not know, maybe it just bad luck.
It could just be my impression that the server is as empty as well and I may be wrong, after all many new areas were created, although they are lvl 95 +.
But I believe there was an evasion of players do not know they moved to another server or quit the game, but I think there's so many players in magmeld as there were two or three months ago.
I'm starting to think magmeld will become a haven for sites adena sellers, if it is not, at all the locations with high drop adena are filled with bots and nobody seems to care.
Will also be forced to resort to bots to succeed in the game since playing honestly do not yield anything and botters seem untouchable?
What do you think?

[Fathia]

there is a ton of action with the smaller clans/spanish clans.

Challenging DV/Geno is a waste of time unless you have the gear/levels/unity to take em on. Eventually it will happen but its gonna take a while.

Unfortunately my problem with the game is how stale/boring it gets past 90. I prefer the grind to what we have today~ I am taking a break from the game, hopefully to return again refreshed and excited. You will notice the steep drop off in players 90+ vs 85-89, unless you have the time for a CP you will be relegated to instances that everyone spends all day camping.


edit: I also miss the chaos of territory wars, best all out pvp event ever next to sieges.

[Imb4Archii]

I dont understand why u ppl complain about our and genos organisation....try to do something urself maybe ? then to qq on forums.Step out show that u have balls for it and stop cry ths

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by Imb4Archii

I dont understand why u ppl complain about our and genos organisation....try to do something urself maybe ? then to qq on forums.Step out show that u have balls for it and stop cry ths

Probably you are a member of DV.
Genocide and DV, despite the arrogance of some players of both clans, are not all I should point out, also contributed positively creating rivalries within the server, the heating market items, despite still being a bit greedy. It's not their fault the other clans fail to meet or deal. This shows that they are pro? I have my doubts, but they got merit of being in the current supremacy.
And no I'm not complaining specifically talking about these clans, but the current situation magmeld server that is empty, boring and want something done to improve this condition.
As I said I want to discuss with you about the server problems, know what others think, your views and please do not wanna hear this talk that I'm crying because of Genocide and DV. I do not care for them.

[Bing]

Originally Posted by Mikael

Probably you are a member of DV.
Genocide and DV, despite the arrogance of some players of both clans, are not all I should point out, also contributed positively creating rivalries within the server, the heating market items, despite still being a bit greedy. It's not their fault the other clans fail to meet or deal. This shows that they are pro? I have my doubts, but they got merit of being in the current supremacy.
And no I'm not complaining specifically talking about these clans, but the current situation magmeld server that is empty, boring and want something done to improve this condition.
As I said I want to discuss with you about the server problems, know what others think, your views and please do not wanna hear this talk that I'm crying because of Genocide and DV. I do not care for them.

i still cant understand people saying the server is dead, there is no pvp, DV + Geno are crap... etc... everyday i get a fair amount of pvp, if i log 4 hours, about 2 hours are for pvp... people, just get some more lvls, war with other clan and have fun, either that or leave ur clan, because if u complain there is no pvp, them prolly ur clan isnt offering what u want, because there still exists pvp here!

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by Bing

i still cant understand people saying the server is dead, there is no pvp, DV + Geno are crap... etc... everyday i get a fair amount of pvp, if i log 4 hours, about 2 hours are for pvp... people, just get some more lvls, war with other clan and have fun, either that or leave ur clan, because if u complain there is no pvp, them prolly ur clan isnt offering what u want, because there still exists pvp here!

Maybe you're right. That feeling I get from the server to be empty can be a dissatisfaction with the way I play or maybe with my clan.
I will make an assessment about it.

[XxDemonxX]

Originally Posted by Bing

i still cant understand people saying the server is dead, there is no pvp, DV + Geno are crap... etc... everyday i get a fair amount of pvp, if i log 4 hours, about 2 hours are for pvp... people, just get some more lvls, war with other clan and have fun, either that or leave ur clan, because if u complain there is no pvp, them prolly ur clan isnt offering what u want, because there still exists pvp here!

Can you describe the kind of PvP your enjoying?Is it normal,fair pvp or a pvp where you use programs to protect your healer,autorez,from 21 enemy's pick the 3 healer enemy's instantly w/o checking what skills the player's use.

Or is the PvP where you are lvl 94 and your enemy's are 98+?

You kinda lost me you know

[Bing]

Originally Posted by XxDemonxX

Can you describe the kind of PvP your enjoying?Is it normal,fair pvp or a pvp where you use programs to protect your healer,autorez,from 21 enemy's pick the 3 healer enemy's instantly w/o checking what skills the player's use.

Or is the PvP where you are lvl 94 and your enemy's are 98+?

You kinda lost me you know

lol, u are kinda outadated... im actually 95+ but honestly i dont think u even know my char since u are always inside town because u are 2 afraid 2 die!!! sides i dont know what is ur concept of fair pvp... i just know that ur nick is just a cover, since u are always crying in the forums intead of flaming like demons do!!! sides, if u get 2 offended by other people using those programs u say they use, why dont u use them aswell??? afterall if u get banned, u wont loose much since u are trading chars all the time, since u dont have the capacity 2 grind or pvp, u just change ur char to a better one after others do all the work u should have done (isnt that kinda botting, but without the program, or at least the propose is the same, since others do your work)... then u realize u are to bad at that class and get a new one 2 see if u play a lil better! honestly, u are a joke to L2!


one more thing about FinalOrder, its odd that i do my grinding in O3 and i dont see a single FO pt there... if ur clan is so good, how come u dont farm at Orbis or Guilotine? i dont see ur members there... and then u acuse people of botting, when u dont even have the clue that at O3 i can get as much as 10m xp per mob, and killing faaaaaaast as hell!!!! get a pt like that and u will see u will lvl in turbo mode!

[XxDemonxX]

Originally Posted by Bing

lol, u are kinda outadated... im actually 95+ but honestly i dont think u even know my char since u are always inside town because u are 2 afraid 2 die!!! sides i dont know what is ur concept of fair pvp... i just know that ur nick is just a cover, since u are always crying in the forums intead of flaming like demons do!!! sides, if u get 2 offended by other people using those programs u say they use, why dont u use them aswell??? afterall if u get banned, u wont loose much since u are trading chars all the time, since u dont have the capacity 2 grind or pvp, u just change ur char to a better one after others do all the work u should have done (isnt that kinda botting, but without the program, or at least the propose is the same, since others do your work)... then u realize u are to bad at that class and get a new one 2 see if u play a lil better! honestly, u are a joke to L2!
one more thing about FinalOrder, its odd that i do my grinding in O3 and i dont see a single FO pt there... if ur clan is so good, how come u dont farm at Orbis or Guilotine? i dont see ur members there... and then u acuse people of botting, when u dont even have the clue that at O3 i can get as much as 10m xp per mob, and killing faaaaaaast as hell!!!! get a pt like that and u will see u will lvl in turbo mode!

A.You just answered my question(You are using the program).
B.2 months ago i was the same lvl as you where.LvL-ed a tank to 91 then stopped playing RL comes first.
C.Me not being the same lvl as you are doesn't mean i'm not capable of lvl-ing or grinding.I did play on a low rate server for 5 years.
D.The reason why i don't use the programz or bot is because i like to play the game as intended,using prgrams to cheat just proves that you are not a gamer but a phatethic player that never realized something in this game so the only way to feel the satisfaction that he is good at something he cheats.
E.No one respects or care's for clan/players that bot.
F.I played o few other class's in this game is true but i did it to see if i like them or not.
And from all the class's i played tank and wiz are to my liking.

About Orbis 3 we have only a few member's that are 95+ and they achieved that lvl w/o boting,witch i'm proud of.
But the majority of our player's are people who have jobs,family's,kids to take care of.
Half of the clan is EU and the other half are USA + BR.This might be the reasons why FO douesn't farm there the shortage of players of lvl 95 or they do farm there but when you are not online.

[Bing]

Originally Posted by XxDemonxX

A.You just answered my question(You are using the program).

lol, right... as if i needed... 1st off im an iss, so why would i need 2 use "the program" to buff and assist on the heals and throw away a couple of debuffs in spam mode and then some that take forever to cooldown?

Originally Posted by XxDemonxX

B.2 months ago i was the same lvl as you where.LvL-ed a tank to 91 then stopped playing RL comes first.

so if i was 91 two months ago, how the hell can u clain i bot, if im 95 now?
have u checked store updates? rune xp 100% + rune xp 50% + all the other vit pots + hourglass?

Originally Posted by XxDemonxX

C.Me not being the same lvl as you are doesn't mean i'm not capable of lvl-ing or grinding.I did play on a low rate server for 5 years.

wow, thats nice... i have been playing this game since C1 and in C2 i had a 56 human tank on old bartz... back then i had 2 make inumerous breaks since i couldnt see grinding in front of me anymore... before GoD i was inactive for 2 years... i came back in last December, so u see, i can lvl up my char, but now i craft the soulshots coz i dont even have the patience to remake all those lvl 0-40 quests!!!! my mind is alone in my iss and thats it!

just one question... why do u pick chars, and then u dont lvl em?

Originally Posted by XxDemonxX

D.The reason why i don't use the programz or bot is because i like to play the game as intended,using prgrams to cheat just proves that you are not a gamer but a phatethic player that never realized something in this game so the only way to feel the satisfaction that he is good at something he cheats.

sometime ago u just stated that u were afraid 2 get banned, now its because u like to play the game as intended??? LoL!!!! just because if u do it like that, its forbidden to share accounts, so u should auto-ban your char!

just one more thing, in what place u can deduct i use the bot? since u dont even see me grinding or pvping? u and ur BS clan are to cawards to show up and loose a pvp!

Originally Posted by XxDemonxX

E.No one respects or care's for clan/players that bot.

no one respects you or your bs posts because you are to much of a cry baby...

Originally Posted by XxDemonxX

F.I played o few other class's in this game is true but i did it to see if i like them or not.
And from all the class's i played tank and wiz are to my liking.

why are u using a healer now??? ur tank was to much of a low lvl because u never actually lvled it... so you had to pick a healer that someone else lvled for you??? account share again?

Originally Posted by XxDemonxX

About Orbis 3 we have only a few member's that are 95+ and they achieved that lvl w/o boting,witch i'm proud of.
But the majority of our player's are people who have jobs,family's,kids to take care of.
Half of the clan is EU and the other half are USA + BR.This might be the reasons why FO douesn't farm there the shortage of players of lvl 95 or they do farm there but when you are not online.

about that, i hit orbis before 95... i was powerlvled there as some other member of my cp are beeing aswell... when u lvl fast, it doesnt exactly mean you use bot... it can mean u are smart... and i say you because im setting an exemple... since i really dont see smartness in you... at least as a L2 player!

[XxDemonxX]

Check pvp counts on my clan,then say we are afraid to pvp.
I don't see a sentence where i accuse you of boting.I accuse you of using a program in pvp but not bottling.

I may be a cry baby but that doesn't mean that what i post is not true.

Did you ever think that me saying that i was afraid to get banned was on ironic post since no one actually does get banned!

I'm not using a healer,i logged 1 for siege since we where in need of healer's.
It was 01:00 AM afterall.

My thank is doing fine its true that is low lvl so what?Are you accusing me of what exactly?Are you mad that i don't bot to make my char lvl 98 like the rest or what cause i don't get you?

You don't get angry when you spend hours in game to lvl up and others just log on set up bot go to sleep,or out whit their gf and at the end of the day they still have more lvl then you?If that doesn't bother you then you don't have a backbone,you don't have the guts to say what it bother's you.OR YOU BELONG TO A CLAN that you know they bot and don't want to accuse your clan mates of cheating.

Your smartness can be put to question,Since you are talking crap and accusing me of things i didn't say.That's because either you can not read properly or you have difficulty's precessing the information.

And just to slap you one more time,you are not setting on example for the fair players.You are not defending the legit players you are defending bots.

Last reply to you since you are either drooped on the head when you where a child or a guy that is in love whit bots.Have a nice day Einstein.

[Bing]

Originally Posted by XxDemonxX

Check pvp counts on my clan,then say we are afraid to pvp.
I don't see a sentence where i accuse you of boting.I accuse you of using a program in pvp but not bottling.

I may be a cry baby but that doesn't mean that what i post is not true.

Did you ever think that me saying that i was afraid to get banned was on ironic post since no one actually does get banned!

I'm not using a healer,i logged 1 for siege since we where in need of healer's.
It was 01:00 AM afterall.

My thank is doing fine its true that is low lvl so what?Are you accusing me of what exactly?Are you mad that i don't bot to make my char lvl 98 like the rest or what cause i don't get you?

You don't get angry when you spend hours in game to lvl up and others just log on set up bot go to sleep,or out whit their gf and at the end of the day they still have more lvl then you?If that doesn't bother you then you don't have a backbone,you don't have the guts to say what it bother's you.OR YOU BELONG TO A CLAN that you know they bot and don't want to accuse your clan mates of cheating.

Your smartness can be put to question,Since you are talking crap and accusing me of things i didn't say.That's because either you can not read properly or you have difficulty's precessing the information.

And just to slap you one more time,you are not setting on example for the fair players.You are not defending the legit players you are defending bots.

Last reply to you since you are either drooped on the head when you where a child or a guy that is in love whit bots.Have a nice day Einstein.

10x LOL! as i said before i dont use ****... and i dont defende bots! off course i get p1ssed when my pt goes into pvp and we got ganked by people that i know they have been using less legit stuff... however in the end of the day, this is a game, i play it because there are people i like 2 play it with and sides it gets my steam off! honestly when i came back i knew what i was goin 2 catch so i really don't make to much noise about something that i was used 2 see everyday i played L2!!! honestly do u really think i give a **** if some1 in some random pt i join to make kartia or soa bots? i dont, as long as if i talk to him/her, he/she is there and answers back... why? easy! because u have the rules, u know u can get banned if you break em BUT everyone is free to do what they want because this is a game, not a real life situation where actually people get killed or loose all their stuff!!!!! the only thing i dont understand and i never will is the why of bringing this war to the forums where it doesnt really matter!!!! u feel good reporting people, then do it... just dont bring it to the forum, since that to is against the rules!

one more thing, those that u say they bot, war them and kill their afk pts!!!!

[Walkirye]

by returning to the purpose of the thread.

I think that the biggest problem of the server is the market, since before lvl 86 is a little hard for newbie ppl to learn how to make money.

As you see, if you focus on lvl up, you need to do kartia, if you dont use vita pots, allways is better to keep vitality until they banish (and thats is form Wednesday to +/- sunday, after that, there is no much places to make adena, even if your in cp/clan.

So, compare to the ridiculous prices of a twi set, its a little crappy for newbie players.
I dont understand, why the prices in magmeld are arround 50% more expensive that in all others servers.

That, and the fact that, most of the players who come to magmeld, come for private servers, and they quit the game, when they see how hard is to hit 90/95.

About bot, I see that bots are best for all, adena sellers, newbie players, pro players, an even ncsoft, so the bot will be there ALLWAYS, the ppl need to understand that.

Even if ncsoft try to use the "hammer", and beging doing mass bans, the bot will return, in max 1 week.

PD: Sry for my bad english

[Little1]

more 85+ xp spots

like whats the point of elven fortress who actually grinds 1-20 thats what the quest are for and they dont take you to elven village at all. Forgotten Temple as well never used. The need to revamp the under 40 xp spots that arent being used in the quest theres are lots of them.

Then even if people are botting there are more options. This also cause the higher clan that want to greif ppl to go to more locations.


I dont think botting is why the server is dying, but rather boredom of going to the same 1-2 xp spots easily being able to gank ppl cause they can only be 1-4 spots and to be honest hardly anyone in fairies these days. SoS is only used for quest. So most live players are gog upper, GF, or orbis. 97+ hellfire but that it limited to few ppl on magmeld.

The instance raids drop **** now drop rate suxs, and xp is mediorce. kama is good pre 90 after 90 make more xp grinding in that time period in a group.

I think the biggest reason ppl resort to botting is boredom of limited choices of what to do and where to go. Sitting in the same spot everyday gets old fast.

[AcidRain]

Originally Posted by Little1

more 85+ xp spots

like whats the point of elven fortress who actually grinds 1-20 thats what the quest are for and they dont take you to elven village at all. Forgotten Temple as well never used. The need to revamp the under 40 xp spots that arent being used in the quest theres are lots of them.

Then even if people are botting there are more options. This also cause the higher clan that want to greif ppl to go to more locations.


I dont think botting is why the server is dying, but rather boredom of going to the same 1-2 xp spots easily being able to gank ppl cause they can only be 1-4 spots and to be honest hardly anyone in fairies these days. SoS is only used for quest. So most live players are gog upper, GF, or orbis. 97+ hellfire but that it limited to few ppl on magmeld.

The instance raids drop **** now drop rate suxs, and xp is mediorce. kama is good pre 90 after 90 make more xp grinding in that time period in a group.

I think the biggest reason ppl resort to botting is boredom of limited choices of what to do and where to go. Sitting in the same spot everyday gets old fast.

Agreed.