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Old 07-15-2013, 10:04 PM   #21
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lol - 97 healer:
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Bound Seraph Light +3 / baium ring / istina neck / 2x +4 r95 earring / +4 r95 ring / dual class 92 underwear (togle frantic is active) / lvl 4 iss buffs + knight + turtle+6con-2str;+3int-1wit + dualclass hp bonus +16%

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Question about HP Heavy x Light or Robe
18727hp x 34339hp... heavy is a good choice?
I really have no clue how you get those digits guys. Armor mastery passive +10? For me it goes like this:
1. Eternal Bound Heavy Set +6 +3 +6 +6 +3, turtle buff, clan buff, lv 3 buffs+knight harmony, no Iron Aura, without daring, Glorious T-Shirt 6283 p def (I have got dual class skill - Light of Protection - no bonus pdef applied in stats above)
2. Bound Seraph Light set +4 +4 +4 +4 +5 the same buff setup 4674 p def + 4200 HP

Jewels 2x +5 seraph rings, 2x +5 seraph earrings, istina necklace
1. Heavy set noted above 3997 m def
2. 4263 m def

If I were not a dark elf, but let's say light elf, it would be better but still... are you on divine elixir? Or Rose buff?
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:53 AM   #22
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If I were not a dark elf, but let's say light elf, it would be better but still... are you on divine elixir? Or Rose buff?
I get those stats with Divine Elixir/Art of Seduction and I'm amazed at these pics Oo
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:57 AM   #23
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cancelled my dal class skills, got +hp (12% HP), put +4 con, used a robe set eternal (and a light twilight -this ive lol), and my hp dont go up 25k-26k. note that eternal robe is +6 so i should have a little hp bonus from it.
now, how the hell you have 34k? lol what race are you?
3.5k p.def in eternal robe+knight, 3.6k p.def in twilight light (lol)+knight.
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Old 07-16-2013, 05:02 AM   #24
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Eternal Robe set +6 + Knight Harmony + Istina Necklace

On elexir around 6.5k p.def and almost 7k m.def. In my opinion best balance against feoh/archer. But I know I am outsider because I dont run in heavy set (anymore).
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:58 AM   #25
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i'm in robe too, and i think its better then heawy how say Martyi with elixir its not easy to die elixir price is 5 kk per 60min? i think its not so much expensive then ... i think robe is better
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:07 AM   #26
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Elixirs last 30 minutes...
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:45 AM   #27
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Elixirs last 30 minutes...
yes but craft costs around 5-6kk and it gives 2 elexirs so it is for 60 mins
1 elexir is 2.5kk around if you have craft for free.
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:49 AM   #28
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For pvp eternal hvy set +4/+5 + knight + istina neck + istina ring + daring sonata

With rose and tank aura i have around 9,5k pdef, mdef around 5-6k i think (not sure)

Btw pvp based healer use elixiers and we know why, we no need to explain this to pve healers.

And about robe btw, i dont know how you pvp, but i'm mostly main target of archers/daggers, i cant survive in robe. Mby if i had con +++, con pend + blessed set +6 ...

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Old 07-16-2013, 08:55 AM   #29
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So, nice results guys ....

I made some tests on myself:

Char: Aeore Cardinal (Human Wizard) lvl 99, +12WIT -6MEN Dyes
Buffs: Lvl 1 ISS buffs, Turtle buff, no Rose/elixir, no Colector Gift, no Party solidarity.
Gear: Bound Seraph Sigil +6, Talisman Annihilation, Glorious T-Shirt (+465 HP, 60 P.def), Enhanced Octavis Bracelet (+1WIT,+1DEX), Istina Neck +5 .... +4 Eternal Robe/Heavy set! (2x Bound parts on heavy)

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18088-heavy
21352-robe

(P.def/M.def/Casting speed)

WIZ/Daring
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4630/4242/1672 -Hvy
3201/4951/1926 -Robe

Knight/Draring
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6640/3750/1550 -Hvy
4581/4403/1785 -Robe

Knight/No daring
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6841/4184/1436 -Hvy
4718/4887/1654 -Robe

So .... 4630/4242/1672 : +100% M.crit Rate, Skill Cooldown -20%, -7.6% Recived Critical damage
or .... 4718/4887/1654 : +3.3k HP, 30% Shield Defense rate (if you use it),10% recived Healing ... ?

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Well ... test it. There is too many opinions. Depends also on your party setup and if you have second healer in party. For me is important survive - if i'm alive, my second healer and my party is alive.
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And about robe btw, i dont know how you pvp, but i'm mostly main target of archers/daggers, i cant survive in robe. Mby if i had con +++, con pend + blessed set +6 ...
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Old 07-16-2013, 02:21 PM   #32
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Btw pvp based healer use elixiers and we know why, we no need to explain this to pve healers..
Burned in pve can afford elixirs.
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Btw pvp based healer use elixiers and we know why, we no need to explain this to pve healers.
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@Colorado: ***, the img you've posted is broken to me, I cant see it. Anyway, did you go all your dualclass skills for ++ hp? And how +CON is working at pvp?

I have Istina Earr, then unless tyrr/tank, I hardly get any stun than last any longer (not even from yuls), but I'd like to now how +CON should affect theses stats on a healer: chance to avoiding lethal/stun/knockdown/paralyse.
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@Colorado: ***, the img you've posted is broken to me, I cant see it. Anyway, did you go all your dualclass skills for ++ hp? And how +CON is working at pvp?

I have Istina Earr, then unless tyrr/tank, I hardly get any stun than last any longer (not even from yuls), but I'd like to now how +CON should affect theses stats on a healer: chance to avoiding lethal/stun/knockdown/paralyse.

CON does not affect stun resistance (not sure about the others)

test of innova : https://4gameforum.com/showthread.php?t=15092
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@Rubu, ty for the info. It lays down my plan to get some extra protection with a low dye of CON.
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CON -Increaces max HP, HP regen, Weight, Breath, Shield def success rater and resistance to physical debuffs.
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