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Old 12-11-2013, 09:02 PM   #1
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So I checked today, and with the skill updated, with seraph robe +4 I get the same p.def as with seraph heavy +6.

Good right?
WTS Seraph heavy +6.
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:26 PM   #2
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So I checked today, and with the skill updated, with seraph robe +4 I get the same p.def as with seraph heavy +6.

Good right?
WTS Seraph heavy +6.
and why i still see aeore with heavys on game? :P
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:28 PM   #3
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He's a little off.
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Old 12-12-2013, 12:28 AM   #4
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He's a little off.
Unbuffed this is actually true, however, with buffs it is not. I have a +6 seraph robe set, and a +4/5/6 seraph heavy set. Unbuffed robes beat heavy by around 400-500 pdef. But with full PvP buffs, rose, turtle, etc. Heavy is still winning by around 1k.

It is really going to depend on what fight you are in, if it is mage heavy definitely take the robes, as they will add about an extra 1k mdef to the situation over heavy. If it is mostly physical damage, it is really still up in the air. Robes will net you less pdef but significantly more HP (5kish).

I'm still undecided as to which I will prefer right now, and I need to do some tests still until I decide.
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:11 AM   #5
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Default Re: No more heavy for healer

Well, I-m referring to this valiance patch notes:

The Superior Armor Mastery skill effect for all Awakening classes has been increased:
Aeore - Superior Armor Mastery
P. Def. +109 -> +1126 (Robe)
P. Def. +73 -> +809 (Light Armor)

Aeore Healer - Superior Armor Mastery
M. Def. +300 -> +610

I just tryed it without and with iss 95 buffs (wizard harmony) in K95 and was pretty good with robe, I mean was better then heavy.

What are pvp buffs? rose turtle and?
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Old 12-12-2013, 05:12 PM   #6
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Edit: my armor mastery is enchanted to +7
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Old 12-12-2013, 07:37 PM   #7
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Default Re: No more heavy for healer

No matter what, heavy benefits the most out of multiplier defense buffs, so for end game chars, hvy will still give more defense over anything else.
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Old 12-12-2013, 08:15 PM   #8
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Default Re: No more heavy for healer

This is correct, however at the same time you are sacrificing HP & Mdef, among several other things for the added pdef. It is truly a personal choice and situational to what you are fighting that will decide what you wear. Even moreso now than before.
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Old 12-12-2013, 08:53 PM   #9
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Well now you must consider this. Will this set save me from daggers?
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Old 12-13-2013, 02:49 AM   #10
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Edit: my armor mastery is enchanted to +7
How can you have so high cast speed with heavy and knight , I dont even come close to that ><
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Old 12-13-2013, 03:35 AM   #11
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How can you have so high cast speed with heavy and knight , I dont even come close to that ><
Get dyes.
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Old 12-13-2013, 06:43 AM   #12
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Have +5 WIT +10 CON don't think replacing the CON with WIT will bring me up to 1900, have to check and see.
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Old 12-13-2013, 07:10 AM   #13
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Need a bit more than +5 wit for cap cast speed.

Unless you are perhaps a light elf?

I havent checked it, mines a dark elf.
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Old 12-13-2013, 08:29 AM   #14
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Max cast speed with knight's harmony with +10 WIT. Made pvp bearable in Lindvior. Now even that's not enough.

Also I tried an eternal robe set, an eternal light set and an eternal heavy set all equalish enchants with knights and divine elixir (the standard pvp setup) I have the most p.def with eternal heavy. Might make a tyrr now that tyrr weapons and armor are on sale in that auction house now that everyone's selling their heavy armors and healers.
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Old 12-13-2013, 09:23 AM   #15
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yea it's a LE, im capped with wizard and robe and robe + knight is 1900 wit lvl 1 iss buffs.
I will try tonight to replace one CON dye with WIT and see how much it gives and then give myself lvl 3 ISS buffs or something.
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yea it's a LE, im capped with wizard and robe and robe + knight is 1900 wit lvl 1 iss buffs.
I will try tonight to replace one CON dye with WIT and see how much it gives and then give myself lvl 3 ISS buffs or something.
You should be easily capped with robes since it gives 20% cast speed.

With robes on my healer I can use S grade duals with knights and delete daring and probably still be capped, if not I can just get another WIT dye or get +3 WIT octavis bracelet.
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You should be easily capped with robes since it gives 20% cast speed.

With robes on my healer I can use S grade duals with knights and delete daring and probably still be capped, if not I can just get another WIT dye or get +3 WIT octavis bracelet.
It's not about being capped with robes, its having 1900 cast speed with heavy armor and Knight im trying to get.
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It's not about being capped with robes, its having 1900 cast speed with heavy armor and Knight im trying to get.
Get WIT dyes.
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Get WIT dyes.
You don't really read things and just post, right?
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I read what you typed. I'm reiterating my advice.
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