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Old 06-20-2012, 04:01 AM   #21
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It's really not that hard to figure out how to pre-zerk and start the match with more hp, people are just too lazy or ignorant to do it. Just because it's not handed to you with a simple weapon switch doesn't mean it's impossible. Played my titan alt in Oly for years and never once had an issue with pre-zealot, could even do it without OtB and start the match at full cp.
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Old 06-20-2012, 04:04 AM   #22
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Suck it up and take it like a man when they remove Duelist Spirit.
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Old 06-20-2012, 06:25 AM   #23
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Shunsui this isnt c4 c5 when zealot and frenzy use to be op where you one shot people and have amazing attackin speed. The only reason i am complaining cause i am a competitive player who does oly all the time, and when you go from 400 + points to 250+ is and big disappointment. And its not because of how i play it is because i am forced to use berserker rage during a battle which either two things happen. Either it gets cancelled, or I die because its so long of a cast even with BSSR since it is a magic skill. I am just saying that its messed up how one they dont give tyrr warriors any updates, two the berserker rage when it levels from 1 to 3 it doesnt get any better look at tht stats they stay the same AND lastly they now mess it up so you can no prezerk unless you take off your gaiters. I even went out my way to sacrifice one of three legendary 5 str dyes i had to get +4 dex -3 con thinking the -3 con will let me prezerk. Just goes to show you how much prezerk really helps. I am just saying you might not be a competitive person and you might like pve but, I am a PvP animal. I just want to know if they will fix this or not. Duelist spirit isnt even removed when its suppose to be in the ninja patches when it says 3rd class change skills dont stack with 4th class change skills cause they still do. My main concern is that since tyrr warriors arent as op as titans i would still like to start out with 80 % percent compare to 40 % just saying.

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Old 06-20-2012, 07:43 AM   #24
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okay, first of all titan with prefrenzy needed low hp (30%) while tyrr even with rage it's better to start with as many as possible (more than 80%)
second, decreasing con will worse the thing, human dwarfs and especially orcs don't have this problem because of their high con (you can try putting +3/6 con and i think it will work)
third the problem is that conversion and health don't work on current hp and ignore the passive, so it works like this:

Before:
16k hp - - - - conversion to 9600hp (60%) - - - - health to 20k hp (125% max hp) - - - - TOTAL = ~10k hp of 20k (50-55%) - > Rage

Now:
16k+5k hp - - - - conversion to 9600 + 5k hp (73%) - - - - health to 20k +5k hp (125% max hp) - - - - TOTAL = ~16k hp of 25k (63-67%) - > no Rage

p.s. if in korea it's like this we'll have to keep it
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:16 AM   #25
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I find it hillarious, when the olympiad gates open and a tyrr comes at me with berserker rage. I simply kite their *** around then pop +15 duelist spirit and boost and wreck them. They then proceed to call me names and say run around more (insert more swear words here) lol.
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:56 AM   #26
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I find it hillarious, when the olympiad gates open and a tyrr comes at me with berserker rage. I simply kite their *** around then pop +15 duelist spirit and boost and wreck them. They then proceed to call me names and say run around more (insert more swear words here) lol.
how many mastery did you use? 2nd class skill has 4% chance to go from +14 to +15 at lvl 99 and 0% at lvl 98...
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:12 PM   #27
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Suck it up and take it like a man when they remove Duelist Spirit.

Oh boy...the amount of QQ we will have on the forums when it gets deleted...the tears will be delicious.
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:31 PM   #28
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Just goes to show you then that ncsoft has made this game worse while before god every question you had they had an answer now to bad it's not even like that anymore good game
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:08 PM   #29
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Shunsui this isnt c4 c5 when zealot and frenzy use to be op where you one shot people and have amazing attackin speed. The only reason i am complaining cause i am a competitive player who does oly all the time, and when you go from 400 + points to 250+ is and big disappointment. And its not because of how i play it is because i am forced to use berserker rage during a battle which either two things happen. Either it gets cancelled, or I die because its so long of a cast even with BSSR since it is a magic skill. I am just saying that its messed up how one they dont give tyrr warriors any updates, two the berserker rage when it levels from 1 to 3 it doesnt get any better look at tht stats they stay the same AND lastly they now mess it up so you can no prezerk unless you take off your gaiters. I even went out my way to sacrifice one of three legendary 5 str dyes i had to get +4 dex -3 con thinking the -3 con will let me prezerk. Just goes to show you how much prezerk really helps.
I'm well aware we're not talking about titans using pre-zealot/frenzy, I'm simply saying if you're as competitive as you think you are, you'd know there are plenty of ways to get your hp down to where you want it to be to pop a skill and then back up to near full using only gear.

I love fighting people in Oly who use their 2-3 second cast skills directly in front of me, just begging to get interrupted. Plan ahead and duck around a corner to pop it.

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I am just saying you might not be a competitive person and you might like pve but, I am a PvP animal. I just want to know if they will fix this or not. Duelist spirit isnt even removed when its suppose to be in the ninja patches when it says 3rd class change skills dont stack with 4th class change skills cause they still do. My main concern is that since tyrr warriors arent as op as titans i would still like to start out with 80 % percent compare to 40 % just saying.
This just made me laugh. I've been camping Oly on multiple toons since it was introduced in C4 and I pvp every day, for years as a fortune seeker and now as a tank.
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how many mastery did you use? 2nd class skill has 4% chance to go from +14 to +15 at lvl 99 and 0% at lvl 98...
Prob spent atleast half a billion adena. I hardly noticed thou since I have so much but hey for what it's worth I hit stupid hard.

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Shunsui this isnt c4 c5 when zealot and frenzy use to be op where you one shot people and have amazing attackin speed. The only reason i am complaining cause i am a competitive player who does oly all the time, and when you go from 400 + points to 250+ is and big disappointment. And its not because of how i play it is because i am forced to use berserker rage during a battle which either two things happen. Either it gets cancelled, or I die because its so long of a cast even with BSSR since it is a magic skill. I am just saying that its messed up how one they dont give tyrr warriors any updates, two the berserker rage when it levels from 1 to 3 it doesnt get any better look at tht stats they stay the same AND lastly they now mess it up so you can no prezerk unless you take off your gaiters. I even went out my way to sacrifice one of three legendary 5 str dyes i had to get +4 dex -3 con thinking the -3 con will let me prezerk. Just goes to show you how much prezerk really helps. I am just saying you might not be a competitive person and you might like pve but, I am a PvP animal. I just want to know if they will fix this or not. Duelist spirit isnt even removed when its suppose to be in the ninja patches when it says 3rd class change skills dont stack with 4th class change skills cause they still do. My main concern is that since tyrr warriors arent as op as titans i would still like to start out with 80 % percent compare to 40 % just saying.
If you wanted to be a competitive tyrr in oly, you'd have duelist spirit...lol
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