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Old 11-22-2017, 10:27 AM   #1
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Exclamation To Neutron: Faction Lvl. 6 Mimir quest & Salvation raid changes.

Dear Neutron / Hime,

The quest at faction level 6 is impossible to complete.
Giant cave faction is on Maximum level and the raid boss Mimir is never alive. I have seen the plan to randomize raid spawn, but for a casual player we are always to late. Even if you would try to get a party for the raid. By the time you get there a top clan already have killed it. This is competition we can never win! We are trying to get Mimir for Eternity now without succes! We the casual player would really like to be able to obtain this beautifull mount that has stronghold teleport to this specific faction.

Is there any way you could be able to help our clan?
Is there a way to succeed in quest with only a specific nr. of mobs to kill?

Any check or understandig from the nc staff would be really appreciated!

Below are the quest details:
The red lines shows the bottleneck in the quest!

Quest: To Weaken the Giants
Level: 100+
Quest type: Onetime quest
Restrictions: Giant Trackers Amity level 6 or higher.
Location: Giant's Cave / Aden Territory
NPC: Krenaht

Description
Talk to Giant Pursuer Leader Krenaht on Kamael base in Giant's Cave.
Stop Mimir by destroying his servants of the lower floor in Giant's Cave.

1. You need to defeat Mimillion Bathus, Mimillion Carcass, Mimillion Kshana.

Go back to Krenaht on Kamael base in Giant's Cave.
Krenaht wants you to defeat Mimir as he's getting stronger day by day.

2. Destroy Enhanced Mimir.
3. Superion Scouts will appear, and you need to defeat them as well: Delta Kshana - 200 mobs, Delta Bathus - 200 mobs, Delta Carcass - 200 mobs.

Go back to Krenaht on Kamael base in Giant's Cave.

Thank you!
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:40 AM   #2
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Default Re: To Neutron: Faction Lvl. 6 Mimir quest & Salvation raid changes.

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Dear Neutron / Hime,

The quest at faction level 6 is impossible to complete.
Giant cave faction is on Maximum level and the raid boss Mimir is never alive. I have seen the plan to randomize raid spawn, but for a casual player we are always to late. Even if you would try to get a party for the raid. By the time you get there a top clan already have killed it. This is competition we can never win! We are trying to get Mimir for Eternity now without succes! We the casual player would really like to be able to obtain this beautifull mount that has stronghold teleport to this specific faction.

Is there any way you could be able to help our clan?
Is there a way to succeed in quest with only a specific nr. of mobs to kill?

Any check or understandig from the nc staff would be really appreciated!

Below are the quest details:
The red lines shows the bottleneck in the quest!

Quest: To Weaken the Giants
Level: 100+
Quest type: Onetime quest
Restrictions: Giant Trackers Amity level 6 or higher.
Location: Giant's Cave / Aden Territory
NPC: Krenaht

Description
Talk to Giant Pursuer Leader Krenaht on Kamael base in Giant's Cave.
Stop Mimir by destroying his servants of the lower floor in Giant's Cave.

1. You need to defeat Mimillion Bathus, Mimillion Carcass, Mimillion Kshana.

Go back to Krenaht on Kamael base in Giant's Cave.
Krenaht wants you to defeat Mimir as he's getting stronger day by day.

2. Destroy Enhanced Mimir.
3. Superion Scouts will appear, and you need to defeat them as well: Delta Kshana - 200 mobs, Delta Bathus - 200 mobs, Delta Carcass - 200 mobs.

Go back to Krenaht on Kamael base in Giant's Cave.

Thank you!
If you are from Freya then you know that MAX are killing Helios every 2 weeks the same day (Saturday afternoon), +- the same hour. Then you know that you can going in giant cave to wait the spawn when you see them porting inside Helios instance.
Beside that smart actions, you can also friendly ask one / few members from MAX when the Helios raids will be killed. To get Enhanced Mimir.

For normal Mimir, the respawn time, is 12h, after the rb's death. Open your map, check when he's up, or camp on giant cave. When he spawn go fast on it (he will die in less than 40s), then now you know who's farming it. You can friendly pm them to let you kill/hit one minion on next spawn to get the quest.

Is that hard ?
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Old 11-22-2017, 11:27 AM   #3
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If you are from Freya then you know that MAX are killing Helios every 2 weeks the same day (Saturday afternoon), +- the same hour. Then you know that you can going in giant cave to wait the spawn when you see them porting inside Helios instance.
Beside that smart actions, you can also friendly ask one / few members from MAX when the Helios raids will be killed. To get Enhanced Mimir.

For normal Mimir, the respawn time, is 12h, after the rb's death. Open your map, check when he's up, or camp on giant cave. When he spawn go fast on it (he will die in less than 40s), then now you know who's farming it. You can friendly pm them to let you kill/hit one minion on next spawn to get the quest.

Is that hard ?
Yes it's hard to understand this is normal for you.
Waiting 2 weeks for a boss and be able to obtain something that is killed in 40 seconds. When I open my map all field raids are dead and when I'm lucky (really lucky) I see 1 raid boss for 1 min on map and 1 minute later it's gone.

I'm not asking to give the raid kill I already gave up on that.
I only wish that the quest is more friendly to complete.

The answers I get when I pm for any information on raids from Max; is you're wasting your time.

I really hope that the nc staff will read this thread and have any power in their hands to make this quest more friendly for the normal player.
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Old 11-22-2017, 11:42 AM   #4
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Default Re: To Neutron: Faction Lvl. 6 Mimir quest & Salvation raid changes.

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Dear Neutron / Hime,

The quest at faction level 6 is impossible to complete.
Giant cave faction is on Maximum level and the raid boss Mimir is never alive. I have seen the plan to randomize raid spawn, but for a casual player we are always to late. Even if you would try to get a party for the raid. By the time you get there a top clan already have killed it. This is competition we can never win! We are trying to get Mimir for Eternity now without succes! We the casual player would really like to be able to obtain this beautifull mount that has stronghold teleport to this specific faction.

Is there any way you could be able to help our clan?
Is there a way to succeed in quest with only a specific nr. of mobs to kill?

Any check or understandig from the nc staff would be really appreciated!

Below are the quest details:
The red lines shows the bottleneck in the quest!

Quest: To Weaken the Giants
Level: 100+
Quest type: Onetime quest
Restrictions: Giant Trackers Amity level 6 or higher.
Location: Giant's Cave / Aden Territory
NPC: Krenaht

Description
Talk to Giant Pursuer Leader Krenaht on Kamael base in Giant's Cave.
Stop Mimir by destroying his servants of the lower floor in Giant's Cave.

1. You need to defeat Mimillion Bathus, Mimillion Carcass, Mimillion Kshana.

Go back to Krenaht on Kamael base in Giant's Cave.
Krenaht wants you to defeat Mimir as he's getting stronger day by day.

2. Destroy Enhanced Mimir.
3. Superion Scouts will appear, and you need to defeat them as well: Delta Kshana - 200 mobs, Delta Bathus - 200 mobs, Delta Carcass - 200 mobs.

Go back to Krenaht on Kamael base in Giant's Cave.

Thank you!
Syndra finaly you try open their eyes. I made lvl 6 faction with gc and i maded all but i realy wonder when random or low clans can kill enchanted mimir. Anyoane from the big clans tell uss if you guys succeded to finish lvl 6 faction with giants cave pls. And NC SOFT you should think about to modify this. Also dont touch garden of spirits, why you dont make a new zone? LVL up garden of spirits mobs lvl its not nice. Tell uss NC soft how we will farm there? your trailers guys are very nice but when a non donator can kill this? Also you can put 1500 Royal mobs even that a player with normal items can handle.
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Old 11-24-2017, 10:18 AM   #5
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Syndra finaly you try open their eyes. I made lvl 6 faction with gc and i maded all but i realy wonder when random or low clans can kill enchanted mimir. Anyoane from the big clans tell uss if you guys succeded to finish lvl 6 faction with giants cave pls. And NC SOFT you should think about to modify this. Also dont touch garden of spirits, why you dont make a new zone? LVL up garden of spirits mobs lvl its not nice. Tell uss NC soft how we will farm there? your trailers guys are very nice but when a non donator can kill this? Also you can put 1500 Royal mobs even that a player with normal items can handle.
Thanks for your support! I really like to shine a light upon this problem. I really hope when the nc staff has some free time they can take a look into it.

We had the same problem with quest mobs in the old days.
Standing and waiting up to 3 or 5 hours to be able to kill 1 quest mob.
Then weeks later more quest mobs where added to the zone.

Is it possible to make (a second) Mimir and / or enchanted mimir to be like Cabrio at Seal of Shillen to be quest only? Maybe add it permanent close to raid spawn?
Then add like 1 hour respawn?

I really think Garden of Spirit (GoS) will be the same story like Enchanted Valley (EV). Once upon a time back then I nearlllyy had Faction lvl 6 then they updated and required level 102. Unable to complete the faction. It really felt like a knife in the back. I had to wait a long time untill my character was level 102. I wonder if GoS will be the same story..
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Default Re: To Neutron: Faction Lvl. 6 Mimir quest & Salvation raid changes.

try to offer them 500kk for a slot
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Old 11-30-2017, 12:22 PM   #7
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Hello,

For some time now, raid bosses have been hoarded by a small number of players making it extremely difficult for anyone else to participate in this content or gain any rewards and gear upgrades.

In Salvation - First Chapter field raids will be changed to help address this.

1.) The re-spawn time on field raid bosses will be randomized much more so that predicting the spawn will be more difficult.

2.) Lv. 100+ Field raid bosses will now have a shield that requires a minimum number of hits to break through or the raid will fail. These raid bosses will be much more difficult to kill with small groups.

With these changes, certain class and item builds designed to farm this content may no longer be viable the same as it was before.

We also recognize that some players may have come to depend on the income generated by this and may be negatively impacted by the changes, once the update is released.

As we have learned from recent changes, giving a short amount of warning time can lead to a lot of frustration. Going forward we want to make sure aqueduct warning is provided when changes happen that could drastically change the way the game works.

We hope that you will understand these kinds of changes are intended to improve the overall game experience for all players. Please let us know your feedback on these changes once they are live and if there are still issues with the re-spawn timers or issues with raid boss farmers.

Thank You
Will this apply to enhanced mimir? or is not an field RB? ... if u simply make it spwam randomly many other players should have an option that now havenīt ... iīve achieved lv6 GC more than 6 months ago and canīt complete this (and i tried camping many times, but unless u are into big clans who have info about the spwam time, seems almost imposible)
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Old 12-05-2017, 06:12 PM   #8
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Thanks for your support! I really like to shine a light upon this problem. I really hope when the nc staff has some free time they can take a look into it.

We had the same problem with quest mobs in the old days.
Standing and waiting up to 3 or 5 hours to be able to kill 1 quest mob.
Then weeks later more quest mobs where added to the zone.

Is it possible to make (a second) Mimir and / or enchanted mimir to be like Cabrio at Seal of Shillen to be quest only? Maybe add it permanent close to raid spawn?
Then add like 1 hour respawn?

I really think Garden of Spirit (GoS) will be the same story like Enchanted Valley (EV). Once upon a time back then I nearlllyy had Faction lvl 6 then they updated and required level 102. Unable to complete the faction. It really felt like a knife in the back. I had to wait a long time untill my character was level 102. I wonder if GoS will be the same story..
Snipeer good troll.
But, he's talk good. That's quest unreal to be complete w\o full pt, and only when any of that server farming helios (2+ stage) < 24h to be after any reach battle vs Helios at stage 2 or 3.
As i know - you at Freya also - so, w8 when max goes farm Helios, then find a full cp, bcos mobs are not for solo.
UPDATED: not randoms... for farm that mobs are hard, need ppls with PVE gear.
with randoms are high chance to fail.
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