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Old 10-31-2017, 06:55 PM   #1
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After Euro server made a post about a sneak preview about the clan changes neutron posted on here like seriously neutron did you just read their post and decided hey oh this is the changes that's gonna happen next update I'm gonna write it in our forums and make the sheeps think that we're actually making progress sweet baby jesus just post the link here maybe? lmao jesus christ....

Oh and any reaction to Neutron's "Update"

https://eu.4gameforum.com/threads/653754/ much more informative post than what our dear neutron posted lmao
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:06 PM   #2
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that's not at all how I think about things. I simply read the patch notes and came to the same conclusion that warning should be given. We will provide more information on the update just as we always do once we are ready to do so.
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Old 10-31-2017, 10:06 PM   #3
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Neutron, can we schedule a live Q&A period after you guys post the patch notes, like, hey guys the thursday after the patch notes get posted, our team will be live here in the forums from 5-8pm EST to answer any questions real time, or something like that, as there are invariably going to be a ton of questions the patch notes are going to raise.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:38 AM   #4
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Zero info has this post anyway.

Yet, about 1 week ago there, on the forums of innova the information about salvation had been posted, with a little details but you could get a point - few words about the clan system, iss' and tank's updates, etc; but in Russian.

That means yes, neutron shared almost nothing, but so innova did. Thank to people like laby and yiuidao we know much more of the russkies.
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Old 11-01-2017, 10:08 AM   #5
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Neutron, can we schedule a live Q&A period after you guys post the patch notes, like, hey guys the thursday after the patch notes get posted, our team will be live here in the forums from 5-8pm EST to answer any questions real time, or something like that, as there are invariably going to be a ton of questions the patch notes are going to raise.
This is a tremendously great idea. In an era where other games head people are always doing QnAs and discord sessions on the regular. This would be a great step in making the community feel included. Just have answers and ideas to respond with and not vague politician statements. Also if you have actually played the game recently, this would help as well since you would be better able to field questions with your RL experience in game.

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Old 11-01-2017, 10:15 AM   #6
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Neutron, can we schedule a live Q&A period after you guys post the patch notes, like, hey guys the thursday after the patch notes get posted, our team will be live here in the forums from 5-8pm EST to answer any questions real time, or something like that, as there are invariably going to be a ton of questions the patch notes are going to raise.
+1 to this idea!
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Old 11-01-2017, 01:14 PM   #7
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Anxiously waiting for this update!
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Old 11-01-2017, 06:56 PM   #8
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that's not at all how I think about things. I simply read the patch notes and came to the same conclusion that warning should be given. We will provide more information on the update just as we always do once we are ready to do so.
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Old 11-02-2017, 07:10 AM   #9
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PTS server, some day?
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Old 11-02-2017, 09:13 AM   #10
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PTS server, some day?
Yes soon!

But in another Galaxy
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Old 11-02-2017, 12:13 PM   #11
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PTS server, some day?
There will not be a PTR i'm afraid. This was after several months of back and forth and trying to bring it back. While the cost of it is not high, the amount of time needed to run and support is not something we have the bandwidth for.
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Old 11-02-2017, 12:51 PM   #12
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...the amount of time needed to run and support is not something we have the bandwidth for.
These words from an employee working at a multimillion company sounds like a...big joke, really.
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Old 11-02-2017, 01:13 PM   #13
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These words from an employee working at a multimillion company sounds like a...big joke, really.
Sorry SpOO i'm not from NA so english isn't my first language.
May I know what time has to do with bandwdith?

Oh well I suppose that there aren't, in Vegas, no homeless John Doe or Jane Doe that the dev team, while doing their 10 years vacation, may use to offer you, as a ncfraud customer, a better support for a daily milkshake.
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Old 11-02-2017, 01:21 PM   #14
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It is so simple. Every single thing in this life, sadly, cost money.

Same goes and with bandwidth and whatever else comes in your mind. Time, bandwidth, support, etc. You name it.
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Old 11-02-2017, 01:30 PM   #15
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It is so simple. Every single thing in this life, sadly, cost money.

Same goes and with bandwidth and whatever else comes in your mind. Time, bandwidth, support, etc. You name it.
I still can't get it.

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There will not be a PTR i'm afraid. While the cost of it is not high
The problem shouldn't be the PTR's cost but

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the amount of time needed to run and support
and this has nothing to do with

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bandwidth.
I may be wrong on this one but they are shutting down everything because there isn't time and support, aka employers.

Who cares
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Old 11-02-2017, 01:40 PM   #16
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Well, at least I tried.
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Old 11-02-2017, 01:50 PM   #17
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Well, at least I tried.
Hold on mate. I got it.
NCfraud doesn't have the money to pay new (more than 1) employers.

This takes me to another question.
What have they done with Aizen's money?
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Old 11-02-2017, 06:59 PM   #18
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Hold on mate. I got it.
NCfraud doesn't have the money to pay new (more than 1) employers.

This takes me to another question.
What have they done with Aizen's money?
dem women are expensive nowadays. Considering amount of carrots in giran with 0 droprate there should be atleast a new yacht .
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I still can't get it.

I may be wrong on this one but they are shutting down everything because there isn't time and support, aka employers.

Who cares
We've not had a PTR for several years, I inquired if the current teams had capacity to manage it and they simply don't. We're not reducing any existing resources we simply cannot add additional work load onto an already extremely busy server admin team it's as simple as that. Hiring a person to temporarily run a PTR is not feasible since the PTR is only operational for a 5-6 weeks a year.

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Old 11-02-2017, 11:20 PM   #20
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These words from an employee working at a multimillion company sounds like a...big joke, really.
It is, but it's isn't their fault necessarily. All L2 revenue gets gobbled by the Korean parent company, and in return they give NCwest a paper thin budget allocation for Lineage.

A more in-depth/proactive team would likely increase player retention and revenue. But the corporate bigwig actually in charge of expense authorization likely doesn't care about the small slice of pie we represent.

L2 has been on a skeleton crew staff with a downward spiral cash-in model for years now. Corporate couldn't care less if L2 died or not. Neutron is just playing the hand he was dealt.
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