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Old 07-01-2013, 06:28 PM   #1
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Default Lab Test 87 - S80 vs R99 Two-Handed Sword Weapons

~Request by socketka~

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Testing: Damage with different weapons on Tyrr
Question: I would like to know what is difference in damage of Tyrr skill Mega Strike +10 Duel with momentum and shots ON while using these weapons: +15 Lava Saw PVPed, +4 R99 Slasher with one SA, +4 R99 Slasher with two SA, +4 R99 Dark Slasher with two SA
Reason: In game I dealing more damage with S80 +4 than with R99 +4. I would like to know if it's correct.
Testing: Difference in PvP Damage with S80 and R99 Two-Handed Sword Weapons.
S80 Weapons:
+15 Lava Saw
+15 Lava Saw Focus
+4 Lava Saw {PvP}
+15 Lava Saw {PvP}
+15 Lava Saw {PvP} Focus
R99 Weapons:
+4 Amaranthine Slasher
+4 Amaranthine Slasher Focus
+4 Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste
+4 Dark Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste
Character A: Dwarf Level 99 Tyrr Maestro
Character A Status: No Armor/Equipment with Soulshots
Character B: Dwarf Level 99 Tyrr Maestro
Character B Status: No Armor/Equipment with Soulshots
Skill: Megastrike (lvl 8) with Max Momentum and +10 Duel
Results:
+15 Lava Saw – 36,390 Damage
+15 Lava Saw Focus – 38,210 Damage
+4 Lava Saw {PvP} – 39,212 Damage
+15 Lava Saw {PvP} – 40,028 Damage
+15 Lava Saw {PvP} Focus – 40,120 Damage
+4 Amaranthine Slasher – 37,230 Damage
+4 Amaranthine Slasher Focus – 39,092 Damage
+4 Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste – 41,046 Damage
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste – 41,312 Damage
+4 Dark Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste – 48,044 Damage
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Old 07-01-2013, 10:34 PM   #2
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Ty for the test Juji
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Old 07-02-2013, 09:16 AM   #3
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Default Re: Lab Test 87 - S80 vs R99 Two-Handed Sword Weapons

The thing about old weapons is that some old s/s80 weapons get +10% damage boost when you {PvP} them. This is based on the SA.. generally speaking the more useless in pvp the SA (eg magic hold / Crit Stun) the higher probability that the devs gave it a 10% pvp mod.

Old S80 dual daggers / dual swords were 10%
Certain Poles were 10% (eg dynasty crit stun)
Some magic hold mage weapons.

Since it is so cheap to get augments on those grades it was trivial to farm passive duel might and then pvp the weapon for a 15% add.

From what we saw when certain lists were posted, and excluding what was said above with dual daggers/dual swords no weapon with acumen, no bow with focus, no sword with haste or health, no single dagger with crit power got the extra 5% add (10 total).
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:40 AM   #4
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Thanks a lot for test!
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:21 AM   #5
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Default Re: Lab Test 87 - S80 vs R99 Two-Handed Sword Weapons

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Originally Posted by Juji View Post
~Request by socketka~

Testing: Difference in PvP Damage with S80 and R99 Two-Handed Sword Weapons.
S80 Weapons:
+15 Lava Saw
+15 Lava Saw Focus
+4 Lava Saw {PvP}
+15 Lava Saw {PvP}
+15 Lava Saw {PvP} Focus
R99 Weapons:
+4 Amaranthine Slasher
+4 Amaranthine Slasher Focus
+4 Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste
+4 Dark Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste
Character A: Dwarf Level 99 Tyrr Maestro
Character A Status: No Armor/Equipment with Soulshots
Character B: Dwarf Level 99 Tyrr Maestro
Character B Status: No Armor/Equipment with Soulshots
Skill: Megastrike (lvl 8) with Max Momentum and +10 Duel
Results:
+15 Lava Saw 36,390 Damage
+15 Lava Saw Focus 38,210 Damage
+4 Lava Saw {PvP} 39,212 Damage
+15 Lava Saw {PvP} 40,028 Damage
+15 Lava Saw {PvP} Focus 40,120 Damage
+4 Amaranthine Slasher 37,230 Damage
+4 Amaranthine Slasher Focus 39,092 Damage
+4 Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste 41,046 Damage
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste 41,312 Damage
+4 Dark Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste 48,044 Damage
Nice one Juji, really appreciate it, thanks!
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Old 07-27-2013, 03:00 PM   #6
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Default Re: Lab Test 87 - S80 vs R99 Two-Handed Sword Weapons

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Originally Posted by Juji View Post
~Request by socketka~

Testing: Difference in PvP Damage with S80 and R99 Two-Handed Sword Weapons.
S80 Weapons:
+15 Lava Saw
+15 Lava Saw Focus
+4 Lava Saw {PvP}
+15 Lava Saw {PvP}
+15 Lava Saw {PvP} Focus
R99 Weapons:
+4 Amaranthine Slasher
+4 Amaranthine Slasher Focus
+4 Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste
+4 Dark Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste
Character A: Dwarf Level 99 Tyrr Maestro
Character A Status: No Armor/Equipment with Soulshots
Character B: Dwarf Level 99 Tyrr Maestro
Character B Status: No Armor/Equipment with Soulshots
Skill: Megastrike (lvl 8) with Max Momentum and +10 Duel
Results:
+15 Lava Saw 36,390 Damage
+15 Lava Saw Focus 38,210 Damage
+4 Lava Saw {PvP} 39,212 Damage
+15 Lava Saw {PvP} 40,028 Damage
+15 Lava Saw {PvP} Focus 40,120 Damage
+4 Amaranthine Slasher 37,230 Damage
+4 Amaranthine Slasher Focus 39,092 Damage
+4 Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste 41,046 Damage
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste 41,312 Damage
+4 Dark Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste 48,044 Damage
I see...but may you test even the +4 Lava Saw Focus {PvP} please? :O as far as i know SA bonus was 10% and PVP also gives a 5% , that should be a 15% in total..umh umh
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SA is 5%, PvP is 5%
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Old 07-28-2013, 04:16 AM   #8
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SA is 5%, PvP is 5%
Not for all weps :P

There's PvP lvl1 to lvl4. Duals have lvl3. So it's 10%.
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Old 07-28-2013, 04:40 AM   #9
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When the SA is giving 0% PvP is giving 10% o/
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Not for all weps :P

There's PvP lvl1 to lvl4. Duals have lvl3. So it's 10%.
gf pro... xD

Check this out

Description:
a. Magic Lvl
b. Atk Count Max
c. PvP Physical Dmg
d. PvP Physical Skills Dmg
e. PvP Magical Dmg

http://base.l2j.ru/img/icons/skill0297.pngSpecial Ability: PvP Damage lvl.1
Inflicts additional damage during PvP.
a. 64
b. 0
c. 1.05
d. 1.05
e. 1.05
http://base.l2j.ru/img/icons/skill0297.pngSpecial Ability: PvP Damage lvl.2
Enables the character to attack multiple opponents. Inflicts additional damage during PvP.
a. 64
b. 4
c. 1.05
d. 1.05
e. 1.05
http://base.l2j.ru/img/icons/skill0297.pngSpecial Ability: PvP Damage lvl.3
Inflicts additional damage during PvP.
a. 74
b. 0
c. 1.1
d. 1.1
e. 1.1
http://base.l2j.ru/img/icons/skill0297.pngSpecial Ability: PvP Damage lvl.4
Enables the character to attack multiple opponents. Inflicts additional damage during PvP.
a. 74
b. 4
c. 1.1
d. 1.1
e. 1.1

Source: http://base.l2j.ru/index.php?p=19&skid=3552
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Default Re: Lab Test 87 - S80 vs R99 Two-Handed Sword Weapons

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~Request by socketka~

Testing: Difference in PvP Damage with S80 and R99 Two-Handed Sword Weapons.
S80 Weapons:
+15 Lava Saw
+15 Lava Saw Focus
+4 Lava Saw {PvP}
+15 Lava Saw {PvP}
+15 Lava Saw {PvP} Focus
R99 Weapons:
+4 Amaranthine Slasher
+4 Amaranthine Slasher Focus
+4 Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste
+4 Dark Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste
Character A: Dwarf Level 99 Tyrr Maestro
Character A Status: No Armor/Equipment with Soulshots
Character B: Dwarf Level 99 Tyrr Maestro
Character B Status: No Armor/Equipment with Soulshots
Skill: Megastrike (lvl 8) with Max Momentum and +10 Duel
Results:
+15 Lava Saw 36,390 Damage
+15 Lava Saw Focus 38,210 Damage
+4 Lava Saw {PvP} 39,212 Damage
+15 Lava Saw {PvP} 40,028 Damage
+15 Lava Saw {PvP} Focus 40,120 Damage
+4 Amaranthine Slasher 37,230 Damage
+4 Amaranthine Slasher Focus 39,092 Damage
+4 Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste 41,046 Damage
+4 Blessed Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste 41,312 Damage
+4 Dark Amaranthine Slasher Focus+Haste 48,044 Damage
good job thanks
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The thing about old weapons is that some old s/s80 weapons get +10% damage boost when you {PvP} them. This is based on the SA.. generally speaking the more useless in pvp the SA (eg magic hold / Crit Stun) the higher probability that the devs gave it a 10% pvp mod.

Old S80 dual daggers / dual swords were 10%
Certain Poles were 10% (eg dynasty crit stun)
Some magic hold mage weapons.

Since it is so cheap to get augments on those grades it was trivial to farm passive duel might and then pvp the weapon for a 15% add.

From what we saw when certain lists were posted, and excluding what was said above with dual daggers/dual swords no weapon with acumen, no bow with focus, no sword with haste or health, no single dagger with crit power got the extra 5% add (10 total).
ive got an eternal core sword. So, if i choose SA HEATLH or Focus, I don`t get a 15% pvp bonus? how much bonus do i get? thanx.
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Heelo Juji, thanks for the test. I have a question, how can i ask for a same test, but testing the S80 PVP Bow, which i believe the skull carnium PVP, compared with the Apocalypse Thrower/Blessed Apocalypse Thrower/Specter Thrower/Blessed Specter Thrower. Obviously with Soulshots ON. If you could answer it would be great, thanks
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hey can u add Tauti Axe dmg on this test as they are the same kind of weapon and use same passives
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