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Old 05-06-2017, 02:45 AM   #1
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enchanced shadow fighter VS Bloody Fighter

Shadow has Better SA options +150 att bonus

bloody fighter has 5% more pve dmg and more p.atk

i am wondering after how + bloody becomes better than enchanced shadow.

i guess after +10 with 2 SA ?
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Old 05-06-2017, 09:22 AM   #2
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enchanced shadow fighter VS Bloody Fighter

Shadow has Better SA options +150 att bonus

bloody fighter has 5% more pve dmg and more p.atk

i am wondering after how + bloody becomes better than enchanced shadow.

i guess after +10 with 2 SA ?
I don't see how you figure it has better sa options. If you augment the enhanced shadow fighters with +15% pcrit dmg it has 20% where if you augment bloody they have 30% with just stage 5 sa crystals.. sure the atk attribute is higher they might be pretty close to equivalent to +11 bloody, but ur also missing 5% pve dmg. They are really good fists to get started though for sure, and when ur looking at bloody fists for 30bil+ and those for what, 10-15? I think the answer is clear for a budget player.
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Old 05-07-2017, 08:29 AM   #3
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little test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwyTWD_wvOU not bad for the price
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Old 05-07-2017, 09:45 AM   #4
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I don't see how you figure it has better sa options. If you augment the enhanced shadow fighters with +15% pcrit dmg it has 20% where if you augment bloody they have 30% with just stage 5 sa crystals.. sure the atk attribute is higher they might be pretty close to equivalent to +11 bloody, but ur also missing 5% pve dmg. They are really good fists to get started though for sure, and when ur looking at bloody fists for 30bil+ and those for what, 10-15? I think the answer is clear for a budget player.

100 crit rate
15% atk speed
10% p.atk
5% crit dmg

better SAs than a r99 weapon
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Old 05-07-2017, 10:19 AM   #5
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100 crit rate
15% atk speed
10% p.atk
5% crit dmg

better SAs than a r99 weapon
LOL, you make me laugh, the 15% atk speed is useless as you cap atk speed anyways, same with the crit rate, so it comes down to the 10% patk and 5% crit dmg, both of which are worse. Than the r99 bloody +12 alternate.
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Old 05-08-2017, 02:58 PM   #6
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Drey is the worst eviscerator on Zaken minus the people who just started playing in the last couple months.

Take what he says with a grain of salt.
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Old 05-08-2017, 03:17 PM   #7
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Drey is the worst eviscerator on Zaken minus the people who just started playing in the last couple months.

Take what he says with a grain of salt.
you should see our matches in olympiad. He puts up the bubble, allows me to get into it and nuke him to death, without ever using disp to get away or turning on steal mind. I guess he forgot what steal mind's description is. Imagine that, an evi who forgets he has the steal mind skill.
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Old 05-09-2017, 08:50 AM   #8
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enchanced shadow fighter VS Bloody Fighter

Shadow has Better SA options +150 att bonus

bloody fighter has 5% more pve dmg and more p.atk

i am wondering after how + bloody becomes better than enchanced shadow.

i guess after +10 with 2 SA ?
Shadow fighter, especially enhanced, are the top weapons for PVE until you get to ~+12PVE weapons or better.

So for most people it's going to be the best bang for the buck. The SA's are ok, and make up for lack of good gear/AP options when you are lower level. The ability to shift the SA's on a real weapon is part of their strength. IE: If you cap attack speed and/or crit rate, then those SA's on the shadow fighter are useless.
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Old 05-09-2017, 01:50 PM   #9
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Shadow fighter, especially enhanced, are the top weapons for PVE until you get to ~+12PVE weapons or better.

So for most people it's going to be the best bang for the buck. The SA's are ok, and make up for lack of good gear/AP options when you are lower level. The ability to shift the SA's on a real weapon is part of their strength. IE: If you cap attack speed and/or crit rate, then those SA's on the shadow fighter are useless.

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