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Old 01-09-2017, 12:00 PM   #1
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Default Lets speak about the future Of L2 after bot removal

Distinct future NCWest servers are almost bot free:

1st. Problem

The players which chose not to rmt outside the NCWest servers would face an issue. Unable to sell unopened event boxes.

If in the future there the events will be with litle to no return value(except the couple lottery jackpot winners) the buying power of Ncoins will drop.

The item prices are going to remain same or even start to increase according the supply demand table(new value will be introduced - trades as adena is dead beat currency)

We are having 2 issue - lost revenue for NCWest and damaged economy for all the servers.

Solution -increase the drop for instances and field above 100lv(can be adjusted) zones (bad for bots - cause you need to equip - after each ban it would be harder to maintain the profit for a bot master)

The players would generate enough Adena to create healthy cycle to maintain the buying power of the unopened event items or already exchanged ones.

Can be moved to suggestion field: Modify Eva rune - 5% skill cool-down reduction and 50% exp gained.

The key of a healthy game is healthy economy which drives to cleaner community.
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clearly u never had a lesson about economics on ur entire life, and looks like adminstration is hard for u.

u didnt hit one right. lol!
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i already said that many times and i ll say again:

__the current l2 cant survive without bots and u guyz cant accept that.

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without bots the current l2 ll dry slow,

the adena ll vanish,

so ppl ll stop to buy ncoins, since the primary reason ppl have to buy ncoins is to trade it for boted adena.

ncwest wont be able to keep the high prices from l2 store as it now,

they ll start to lower the prices of l2store goods to a point they ll need to sell too many coin packs for a few bucks,

they ll have to build up new items, since all the big spenders already have it all.

In the end the amount of sales will not be enough to keep the game alive.

after all the freemium consist of this. cya!

(in order to get free of bots they ll need to revert all the bad decisions they did in the past years and the major one is KILL THE ISS CLASS, and u guyz can deal with that, draeck already said that once, he wont play without iss enchanter class and i know for sure is the same for all the new ppl)
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Thus has to end anyway, ppl selling only store items and get equip mainly through the store (gl making +10 sets with just bear).
Sadly the boted adena is drying out and those same randoms are getting panicked atm, since nothing sells, nor there is any other viable way to get adena or w/e you need.
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Old 01-09-2017, 02:51 PM   #6
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Solution ,easy

start selling adena in the l2 store and sell the bot package.Y to fight hackers make it legal.You're welcome.
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ur country cant print money as it see fit, why on earth u think a game can do it?

economy and management 1on1.

jesus u ppl...........
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i already said that many times and i ll say again:

__the current l2 cant survive without bots and u guyz cant accept that.

=======================//=======================

without bots the current l2 ll dry slow,

the adena ll vanish,

so ppl ll stop to buy ncoins, since the primary reason ppl have to buy ncoins is to trade it for boted adena.

ncwest wont be able to keep the high prices from l2 store as it now,

they ll start to lower the prices of l2store goods to a point they ll need to sell too many coin packs for a few bucks,

they ll have to build up new items, since all the big spenders already have it all.

In the end the amount of sales will not be enough to keep the game alive.

after all the freemium consist of this. cya!

(in order to get free of bots they ll need to revert all the bad decisions they did in the past years and the major one is KILL THE ISS CLASS, and u guyz can deal with that, draeck already said that once, he wont play without iss enchanter class and i know for sure is the same for all the new ppl)
You see if you increase the field drop issue is kinda solved BUT!
It will create any other legal means to farm - old school multi pc setup(i doubt that there is a way to notice virtual machine interference which will be abused as it is now) with afk macro doesn`t sound any different - does it?

The biggest issue is i doubt that we will receive a real human recourse to monitor the grounds from cost perspective even without it, it means 100% loss anyway.

L2 in Korea is flop - but not outside of it. Just you need to be more creative to attract returning players and the price tag of 25k for gear doesn't sound attractive at all.
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i already said that many times and i ll say again:

__the current l2 cant survive without bots and u guyz cant accept that.

=======================//=======================

without bots the current l2 ll dry slow,

the adena ll vanish,

so ppl ll stop to buy ncoins, since the primary reason ppl have to buy ncoins is to trade it for boted adena.

ncwest wont be able to keep the high prices from l2 store as it now,

they ll start to lower the prices of l2store goods to a point they ll need to sell too many coin packs for a few bucks,

they ll have to build up new items, since all the big spenders already have it all.

In the end the amount of sales will not be enough to keep the game alive.

after all the freemium consist of this. cya!

(in order to get free of bots they ll need to revert all the bad decisions they did in the past years and the major one is KILL THE ISS CLASS, and u guyz can deal with that, draeck already said that once, he wont play without iss enchanter class and i know for sure is the same for all the new ppl)
They have solution for this. Remember last event? Was designed to full servers with adena. I gambled 5b adena and made them 80 not joking, and many ppl got profit as well. I was senting rewards in grocery store all time to play again and again. Opened 35-40k reward and maybe half of those adena came from grocery/ And now freya event is up and i lost most of the adena i made 1.700 bags = 0 freya,0 kelbim tauti, i got maybe 15% of my adena back and ofc i sell rewards to play again with the hope for my luck to be ''balanced''. 45-50b gone and that never happened Seems nc want to **** the f2p players but ofc it was my bad too, i didnt expect them to be so evil company,i should not trust the event rates xD
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Old 01-10-2017, 06:08 PM   #10
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There are 3 topics about this I discussed recently, can't take it seriously anymore lol.

But since all items dropped in price anyway,even with bots due to l2 store sells of r gems and after the ge ,and following mega events that basicly executed the dead body of the economy droping the prices of everything, on this background bots appear to be harmless

On one end top gear is cheap no adena to buy,on the other the rest is cheap ty for events
Next thing is just start selling top gear package for 6k usd and call it a day

But ofc you know better
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guyz, take a moment to use ur brains before post please. omg..........
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Default Re: Lets speak about the future Of L2 after bot removal

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Distinct future NCWest servers are almost bot free:
I don't see to what u mean. Zaken server is full of bots (less than before but still many of them).
I've started stalking a bot party in GoG and they are there from early december till now...
If u walk through talking island/ goddard/oren/rune u can still see an army of female kamael archer doing the same path over and over again, and even from mentee search u can see lots of names like "asfasf", "okifgsfg"...
And last couple of sieges we felt the same way as it was before nc started to ban pvp scripts.
So, what do u mean by "almost bot free".
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I don't see to what u mean. Zaken server is full of bots (less than before but still many of them).
I've started stalking a bot party in GoG and they are there from early december till now...
If u walk through talking island/ goddard/oren/rune u can still see an army of female kamael archer doing the same path over and over again, and even from mentee search u can see lots of names like "asfasf", "okifgsfg"...
And last couple of sieges we felt the same way as it was before nc started to ban pvp scripts.
So, what do u mean by "almost bot free".
Where do you see it written the communication about current state? ( Meant was the future)
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guyz, take a moment to use ur brains before post please. omg..........
To solve the issue you can do it simply by adding full drop but limiting the % of dropped epics etc so they can be obtained only from store.

Btw do you really think if you can collect the drop from the ground people would need to turn to legal rmt from 85lv? -.-

Btw tell me how in Core they are fighting RMT issues - simple answer they don`t.
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liinu (sunshine clan) Koff (enmity) snickerdoodle (theversusII clan) olwen dalavar all botting for the 8000 quest as we speak HB been here two days and still BOTTING can someone clear the bots out. not fair I have to manually do this they get it easy
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Are you sure that these people are actually botting not using macro?

Cause sometimes it is hard to notice if someone is botting or using some macros, but sometimes it is very easy to tell who is just botting and who is just using in game macro feature.
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liinu (sunshine clan) Koff (enmity) snickerdoodle (theversusII clan) olwen dalavar all botting for the 8000 quest as we speak HB been here two days and still BOTTING can someone clear the bots out. not fair I have to manually do this they get it easy

News flash, those are all macro groups there, nothing wrong with what they are doing, join the club
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To solve the issue you can do it simply by adding full drop but limiting the % of dropped epics etc so they can be obtained only from store.

Btw do you really think if you can collect the drop from the ground people would need to turn to legal rmt from 85lv? -.-

Btw tell me how in Core they are fighting RMT issues - simple answer they don`t.
omg mate, really? let me try again.

FREEMIUM IS ABOUT RMT, NCSOFT NEED RMT TO KEEP THE CURRENT L2. THEY EVEN DESIGN BOT PLACES FOR THE BOTS.......JESUS....

google freemium, again use ur brain... u had been tricked......

adrenaline and adenabuddy working heavy on servers and ppl talking about l2 macro.

ehauehauehaueehauehuaheuaheuahueaheaheuahe!!!!!
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It's kinda stupid to tell ppl to use their brain, cause either they have it and use it,or they don't.Mb you should start using yours.
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omg mate, really? let me try again.

FREEMIUM IS ABOUT RMT, NCSOFT NEED RMT TO KEEP THE CURRENT L2. THEY EVEN DESIGN BOT PLACES FOR THE BOTS.......JESUS....

google freemium, again use ur brain... u had been tricked......

adrenaline and adenabuddy working heavy on servers and ppl talking about l2 macro.

ehauehauehaueehauehuaheuaheuahueaheaheuahe!!!!!
I know how fermium works, but tell me one thing, why NCSoft would take measures NOW by decreasing the amount of bots if by keeping them it would be alot easier to feed the created RMT monster?

Btw tell me what do you find so good in the core server except drop and service pricing which pushed you to leave NCWest?

Also yes adrenaline is in full swing here in NCWest , still people are in huge denial. Btw how Core handles the script/bot situation?

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