High rate retail

[Aconyte]

Originally Posted by Pacal

exactly, if you don't like it, don't play it, but if there are 20 000 players who like high rates for any reason they can have, why didnt give and option ?

It's amazing how dense someone can be.

Do you realize that posting your suggestions in the forum is as useful as farting in the water?
Do you realize that NCwest cannot change a thing in the current game design, nor can it change the ways it's being managed?
Do you realize NCKorea doesn't care about your "20000 players" at all? You can make them all come here and vote a million times a day, just to see the zero outcome.

Or maybe you're the only smart one who wants to tell them how to run their business? Ok make a phone call to Seoul, maybe they'll listen.

Guess what, if NCKorea wanted to do something, they would have done so. If they don't want to, they won't. And when they decide to shut down the servers completely, they'll do it. In due time. And you can't do anything about this, you can only accept and/or move on.

[MasterMiku]

Thats not true, you should visit a site named change.org and you will see how the masses can make things to happen, at the end this is a business, ncsoft is managed by persons like anybody else and if there is enough people to make them make money they probably do it, and I dont think 20k is even a fair number, should be a lot, lot more.

As stated before, I think this post is not to interfere with current gameplay but to make a separate service for other kind of people who are willing to spend money to have some fun.

Originally Posted by Aconyte

It's amazing how dense someone can be.

Do you realize that posting your suggestions in the forum is as useful as farting in the water?
Do you realize that NCwest cannot change a thing in the current game design, nor can it change the ways it's being managed?
Do you realize NCKorea doesn't care about your "20000 players" at all? You can make them all come here and vote a million times a day, just to see the zero outcome.

Or maybe you're the only smart one who wants to tell them how to run their business? Ok make a phone call to Seoul, maybe they'll listen.

Guess what, if NCKorea wanted to do something, they would have done so. If they don't want to, they won't. And when they decide to shut down the servers completely, they'll do it. In due time. And you can't do anything about this, you can only accept and/or move on.

[Tiferet1]

Originally Posted by MasterMiku

Thats not true, you should visit a site named change.org and you will see how the masses can make things to happen, at the end this is a business, ncsoft is managed by persons like anybody else and if there is enough people to make them make money they probably do it, and I dont think 20k is even a fair number, should be a lot, lot more.

As stated before, I think this post is not to interfere with current gameplay but to make a separate service for other kind of people who are willing to spend money to have some fun.

Let me repeat once more: NCKOREA DOESN'T CARE ONE BIT.

That's because they're the bosses. NCWest can't even breath without their permission.
And they're not even aware of the existence of the suggestion board.

[Bryce]

Originally Posted by Tiferet1

Meh. Do you play with your eyes closed, by any chance? Or only with a cp? That would explain a lot.

I'll take my time explaining things.

First, most of new players completely overlook the importance of attributes on armor and weapon and go around with no enchants, complaining with the healer that they die a lot.
Most of it done with bad English skills.
Not to mention that they don't have any knowledge of their class, their skills, and simply spam whatever they get and/or don't use the most basic ones (I've encountered Tyrr Warriors who didn't even know they had self buffs to increase damage, because they leveled fast forward to 85 without taking a single glance to the skill bar. The leveling process is still important to grasp the bases of one's class).

I don't think people over look the attribute system it's just too expensive for new players to gather that many stones or crystals to get it done. Or they don't have the time to mentee 7 characters to get enough coins either, not everyone can get online 6 hours a day never mind the 8-12 needed to be someone. Pretty sure the age range of this game is 23+ at least it what it is in most online games.

On the complains I will aggree with you on that, and that is because a lot is expected of players more than ever. NC fault, an error from a players prospective, to much dedicated to parties, there is not a real good solo option like their use to be. I have left a party because yes one time I had to learn to do a instance and people are like you don't know, yeah cause we are just born with knowledge, we are all "noobs" at some point.


About not knowing the classes you play, well the game chances dramaticly after 85 most skills go bye bye and most of the population is new . I see it more as the the older players seem to rush more than ever, it's why I see Fortuna parties fail people want what they want and want it now.

lol so that is just a catch 22.

And to be honest there is no skill really in l2 anymore at least form my point you learn what skills do and use it, if that is skill **** I am good. Good gear, enchanted skills, full buff and watch the other person hp go down pretty simple concept. Or you can do what more than half do, use a program to play for you.

But this is nor here or there this is about a high rate server, if we are trying to debate about drops, well there is a solution, with high rate it also means drops spoil, and I only assume they would make it so you have the option to click a button to stop exp gain, it's what I would do.

[Aconyte]

Go talk directly to NCKorea. Talk to them about profitable business, democracy, slavery, and lots of other things of which you have "your own opinion" (the all-important one). Good luck


P.S. Guess what, they do have the so-called "relaxed servers", roleplaying servers, and lots of other good things out there in Korea.
They do, we don't.


"Mommy, can I please have that candy?"
"No you can't!"
"But why?"
"Because you CAN'T!!!"

[Bryce]

Originally Posted by Tiferet1

I created my Aeore Healer in November and I'm 91, while not having a cp, not using vitality-related items, not using a single xp rune.
If I can do that, everyone can do it as well.

I think you act like that is something to brag about think you wrote this a few weeks back also which makes it worse, still 91. Anyway I guess that is what you overlook it's not good, for one you a healer one of the most needed classes should always get a party, and at the rate your going you'll be at such a gap with players that can level faster than you will either quit or won't find parties eventually, it won't be like the population will wait for you.

[Tiferet1]

Originally Posted by Bryce

I don't think people over look the attribute system it's just too expensive for new players to gather that many stones or crystals to get it done.

I've seen people (even on these boards) saying that attributes aren't important. I wonder what became of them, after trying their theories on the field.

About not knowing the classes you play, well the game chances dramaticly after 85 most skills go bye bye and most of the population is new . I see it more as the the older players seem to rush more than ever, it's why I see Fortuna parties fail people want what they want and want it now.

Wait, not so dramatically. Some new classes still share a bit of gameplay with their old ones. I found no difficulty whatsoever while evolving from Shillien Saint to Aeore Healer, because I already adjusted my bar for the most important skills and I just needed to adjust to some new ones (like the tree).
Besides, some classes share their skills with the new ones, i.e. Tyrants, Gladiators and Warlords evolved into Tyrr Warrior get an improved version of their previous skills. An ex Grand Khavatari would find no difficulty into adjusting to the new Feral Cries, as well a Duelist can retrieve his Spirits.

Originally Posted by Bryce

I think you act like that is something to brag about think you wrote this a few weeks back also which makes it worse, still 91. Anyway I guess that is what you overlook it's not good, for one you a healer one of the most needed classes should always get a party, and at the rate your going you'll be at such a gap with players that can level faster than you will either quite or won't find parties eventually, it won't be like the population will wait for you.

I don't strive for end game. I stopped lvling my main for a while, I don't even go to Kartia, Fortuna or Spezion unless some clannies are involved as well.
My point is that you can make your own way, slow or fast, but if you're the impatient type, just buy stuff from the Store, instead of demanding new servers that can't be opened.
Besides, what's wrong with being 91?

[Bryce]

Originally Posted by Tiferet1

I don't strive for end game. I stopped lvling my main for a while, I don't even go to Kartia, Fortuna or Spezion unless some clannies are involved as well.
My point is that you can make your own way, slow or fast, but if you're the impatient type, just buy stuff from the Store, instead of demanding new servers that can't be opened.

Deleted all the other usuless stuff, it don't matter how you level, what will matter is that you either level or you will be left in the dust. Players are going to out level you and I am guessing soon the level gap will have to be increased even higher, if that happens unless they make it easier to level again you're outta luck.


On another note no one is demanding anything don't be so dramatic, we just give our ideas, not everoyne is going to like the ideas gave, that is not the point. The point is a lot of people do want this and even though the no is winning on the forums, most people don't read the forums as we saw with the draco event of not knowing items would be deleted. So who knows what it would be like if this poll was done ingame, I bet you'd be surpised. Just sayin!

[Tiferet1]

Originally Posted by Bryce

Deleted all the other usuless stuff, it don't matter how you level, what will matter is that you either level or you will be left in the dust. Players are going to out level you and I am guessing soon the level gap will have to be increased even higher, if that happens unless they make it easier to level again you're outta luck.

You still haven't gotten my point.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT ALL OF IT.
I play with my friends, all in my same level range. while joining random parties to do stuff while they're not online.
I don't grind.
I play casual.

Got it now?

[Bryce]

Originally Posted by Tiferet1

You still haven't gotten my point.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT ALL OF IT.
I play with my friends, all in my same level range. while joining random parties to do stuff while they're not online.
I don't grind.
I play casual.

Got it now?

What I get is unless the players do exaclty what do, what are you going to do when those friends out level you so much they need a higher level healer.

Casual is fine, but least be realistic, are you guys really just logging in game waiting for eachother to level? From all you said so far a high level server would suit your play style which is really ironic when you think about how you are against it. LOL

[Sace]

There are no plans to have NCsoft West servers with different rates. This has been posted in the past and will likely be posted many times in the future. Although the suggestion comes up from time to time, the decision against having "high rate" servers remains.

As you can see players greatly disagree about this topic for many reasons, and everyone's experience and opinion of current server rates is their own. The game is Truly Free, is already significantly "easier and faster" than in previous game versions, and players always have the option of partaking of the NCoin store if they wish to enhance their gameplay with boosts. How you play is up to you: you have options.

This thread is being locked as the suggestion will not be realized in any foreseeable future, and due to extensive off-topic derailment, arguing about arguing, and other non-constructive content.