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Old 05-16-2013, 06:09 PM   #101
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Edit: screw that, I should have checked the Lindvior preview site first.
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Old 05-16-2013, 06:29 PM   #102
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most of the patch notes from the Echo IV are missing!
PM me about the ones missing because a bunch of them were also included in our current Glory Days version.

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So if you can't get it from crystallizing, is there any new way to get it or they simply turn into even rare item?
There's no new way that I found. You'll still be able to get them from drops.

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what about Tyrr maestro? i tought we getting Golem Transformation back... :S
You don't get 2nd/3rd class skills back when you awaken into Tyrr Maestro.
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Old 05-16-2013, 06:47 PM   #103
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Juji, Does this apply to existing bound gear as well?

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We have changed the list of items earned from crystallizing items that are A-Grade or higher. You may get the following items by chance other than crystals.
A-Grade: Elcyum Powder, Scroll for enchanting general, blessed, and giant's weapons and armor. (A-Grade)
S-Grade: Elcyum Powder, Scroll for enchanting general, blessed, and giant's weapons and armor. (S-Grade)
R-Grade: Elcyum Crystal, Scroll for enchanting general, blessed, and giant's weapons and armor. (R-Grade)
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Old 05-16-2013, 06:56 PM   #104
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Juji, Does this apply to existing bound gear as well?
Yes, this applies to existing bound gear as well.
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:03 PM   #105
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Juji, Does this mean if I have 2.1 billion SP now after update it get reduce by 210M SP point? Or stay at 2.1B SP

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SP cannot exceed 2.1 billion. There is inconvenience of having to use it whenever it is at the maximum. We have reduced the amount of SP held by the character by 1/10.
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:49 PM   #106
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Juji can you tell me what is going to be max attack speed? Currently we have 1,5k however with a simple Haste SA you can get to max speed. After lindvior they introduce additional attack speed skill, e.g. tyrr's fury that absorbs hp upon use, so the question is is there any change regarding max attack speed.
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:57 PM   #107
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i would like to know wat will happen with the 3 cubics of knight and the fairy of life skill...

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Superior Cubic Mastery (Passive) - Can summon up to 3 cubics at once.
that skill is kinda a joke... coz since GOD before awakening you dont need that mastery to have 3 cubics at once... but if that healer cast on you the fairy of life, it count as a cubic, so the 1rst cubic is removed... did someone test it on lindvior??

@BornInHell i think is still the same 1500 but now the Lightning Force trigger will give p.atak instead of attack speed with fists
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:06 PM   #108
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one more question.
what about instances like spezion (both versions); antharas expedition; and others where you can stay until server crash and don't get port outside (only if dead after 1min).
It's really annoying when someone leave his toon afk and ***** all other instances for whole party or command channel. if you get forced port out from all instances after 5-15min, why these have exceptions?
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:08 PM   #109
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Juji, Does this mean if I have 2.1 billion SP now after update it get reduce by 210M SP point? Or stay at 2.1B SP
The amount of SP you have will be reduced to 1/10 of that amount after the update.

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Juji can you tell me what is going to be max attack speed? Currently we have 1,5k however with a simple Haste SA you can get to max speed. After lindvior they introduce additional attack speed skill, e.g. tyrr's fury that absorbs hp upon use, so the question is is there any change regarding max attack speed.
It's still 1500 max.

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i would like to know wat will happen with the 3 cubics of knight and the fairy of life skill...

that skill is kinda a joke... coz since GOD before awakening you dont need that mastery to have 3 cubics at once... but if that healer cast on you the fairy of life, it count as a cubic, so the 1rst cubic is removed... did someone test it on lindvior??

@BornInHell i think is still the same 1500 but now the Lightning Force trigger will give p.atak instead of attack speed with fists
Fairy of Life does not count as a cubic for Knight, so it won't cancel any of the 3 cubics. Tested this again. The Fairy of Life cubic does cancel out the cubic for the knight

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Old 05-16-2013, 08:10 PM   #110
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PM me about the ones missing because a bunch of them were also included in our current Glory Days version.


There's no new way that I found. You'll still be able to get them from drops.


You don't get 2nd/3rd class skills back when you awaken into Tyrr Maestro.
I read in many websites with images about Tyrr Maestro learn a fourth skill after Diversification: Golem Transfromation., they even posted some pics...

http://moy-son.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/golem.png
http://moy-son.com/wp-content/upload...gplem-stat.png

I hope this come in any next update e.e
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:14 PM   #111
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Dominator its OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!

orc rules again go greeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:23 PM   #112
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Some confusions here:
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You may increase the chance of earning Blessed items by using "Elcyum" when breaking the Yoke Status of items that are R-Grade or above.
I imagine that by breaking Yoke Status you mean unbind it with unbind scrolls so how is this possible:
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The new ‘Unbind Scroll’ can only transform a bound item to a standard item. You no longer have a chance to receive a blessed item with the new scrolls.
So there's some confusion here for sure...

Second thing, in the mentor shop list the scrolls appear to be giant ones. No more normal scrolls from mentor shop? Where do we get normal low grade scrolls now? (I assume the Aden Donation system doesn't give it anymore)
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:31 PM   #113
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reputation points and karma will be reset like the last mayor update ?

Any change on pk system specific on debuff with high pk counts ?
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:33 PM   #114
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I read in many websites with images about Tyrr Maestro learn a fourth skill after Diversification: Golem Transfromation., they even posted some pics...

http://moy-son.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/golem.png
http://moy-son.com/wp-content/upload...gplem-stat.png

I hope this come in any next update e.e
Ahhhh, you are correct. Completely forgot about this one since it does not show up under the Learn Skills tab. I'll be sure to add that in now. Thanks!

Siege Golem's Spirit (Active) - Merge with a powerful Siege Golem. For 5 minutes, P. Def/M. Def +50%. Resistance to Bows/Crossbows +50%. Requires 10 R-Grade Crystals.
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:39 PM   #115
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i confused

Dark Eternal (PvP) When you have equipped all 5 armor, you will receive 20% damage deduction from players.

Bloody Eternal (PvE) When you have equipped all 5 pieces, you will receive 20% damage deduction from NPC, increased attack damage by 5%, increased magic attack damage by 10%.

about blood eternal the 5% p atk and 10% m atk is just against npc or is applied for players too?
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:44 PM   #116
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Not possible.
So meaning.. we have 2 employees of NCWest stating different things.

Now the "interesting" thing is:

1) I believed in one and made some changes to my toon, waiting for the next update, spending quite some adena IG, sold jewels because they were useless and now.. I don't get my Tyrr DN back??

2) NCSoft Ruined game by compacting all classes into this mess we have atm.. now they are uncompacting.. and we in NCWest can't go back to what we were, when Korea, Japan, Russia, EU, whatever... can?

Answer me this, so that I can finally decide what to do with toon..
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Old 05-16-2013, 08:47 PM   #117
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reputation points and karma will be reset like the last mayor update ?

Any change on pk system specific on debuff with high pk counts ?
I need to double-check about that.

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Some confusions here:

I imagine that by breaking Yoke Status you mean unbind it with unbind scrolls so how is this possible:

So there's some confusion here for sure...

Second thing, in the mentor shop list the scrolls appear to be giant ones. No more normal scrolls from mentor shop? Where do we get normal low grade scrolls now? (I assume the Aden Donation system doesn't give it anymore)
Reworded the patch note about the unbind scroll and elcyum. The old Unbind scrolls now have a new option that allows you to increase your chance to get a blessed item. Without elcyum you have a low chance, but with Elcyum you get a high chance.

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So the new ones doesn't have the option to use with Elcyum?

Got the impression form all other patch notes that you could use them with the new ones too.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:01 PM   #119
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So meaning.. we have 2 employees of NCWest stating different things.

Now the "interesting" thing is:

1) I believed in one and made some changes to my toon, waiting for the next update, spending quite some adena IG, sold jewels because they were useless and now.. I don't get my Tyrr DN back??

2) NCSoft Ruined game by compacting all classes into this mess we have atm.. now they are uncompacting.. and we in NCWest can't go back to what we were, when Korea, Japan, Russia, EU, whatever... can?

Answer me this, so that I can finally decide what to do with toon..
We asked the devs about getting the special NPC for players who used the Stone of Destiny. I'll let you know if we can get it or not, I'm hoping we do and that they respond quickly.

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i confused

Dark Eternal (PvP) When you have equipped all 5 armor, you will receive 20% damage deduction from players.

Bloody Eternal (PvE) When you have equipped all 5 pieces, you will receive 20% damage deduction from NPC, increased attack damage by 5%, increased magic attack damage by 10%.

about blood eternal the 5% p atk and 10% m atk is just against npc or is applied for players too?
20% is the total amount you get when the entire armor set is equipped. Each piece has their own amount, EX: Bloody Eternal Breastplate has 8% decrease in damage from NPC.

The P. Atk. +5% and M. Atk. +10% are standard stats and are not restricted to PvP or PvE.

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So the new ones doesn't have the option to use with Elcyum?

Got the impression form all other patch notes that you could use them with the new ones too.
The new ones don't have the option, it says in the Echo patches. In the screenshot, the first weapon on the left is for the old scroll without Elcyum, the 2nd (middle) is the new scroll, and the 3rd is the old scroll with Elcyum.
  • The new ‘Unbind Scroll’ can only transform a bound item to a standard item. You no longer have a chance to receive a blessed item with the new scrolls.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:05 PM   #120
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We have changed the damage calculation method for blow skills that will be more appropriate for an assassin.
I heard that DEX will have an impact on Blow type damage in lindvior. Is it what you mean by this sentence?
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