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Remnant Diabolist
Join Date: Jun 2005
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I often see people asking about Eviscerator setup, how their skills work or why theirs sucks compared to others they see. I also see a lot of people selling high OE bloody fists weapons with terrible SA setup, like all crit damage no might, etc. So I thought I'd make a thread and share what I've found.
As My Evisc is mainly a PvE box and I don't PvP on her as much as I do my healer I'll leave PvP out of this. PvE Damage Regular Melee Damage This is the normal swing damage. This is mostly about critical damage on top of the usual p.atk, element, atk speed etc. Heavy Punch The Heavy Punch passive has a chance to land on any standard melee hit whether critical or not. This will add another skill hit on top of the regular hit. If it were a skill it would read "hits the enemy with 5x p.atk power added to p.atk, ignores 30% p.def, critical, over-hit". For example, if you make 2 swings (1 per fist) and Heavy Punch lands on one of these you will see 3 lots of damage in the damage log, 2x normal hit and 1x Heavy Punch hit. It does exactly that, the more p.atk you have the higher the damage, skill damage items/buffs boost it and it can critical or over-hit. Heavy punch has about a 10% chance to land and does require you do do over a certain amount of damage (100 damage orso). Steel Mind On top of adding 30% p.atk, 15% critical Damage, 15% skill critical damage and making you invincible... Steel Mind adds a Heavy Punch hit on top of any melee hit you land. To make thing even more fun heavy punch can also land on top of this, so for 2 swings you can get up to 6 lots of damage, 2x regular hits, 2x Steel Mind hits and 2x Heavy Punch Hits! Maximising Base Damage.
Dual Class Skills:
AP: Warrior tree:
Doing Max Damage to Raids/Mobs First thing is getting your skill chain right and keep all the procs up.
Then you must remember to stack skills right.
My Setup My Evisc isn't the strongest, but I do good damage compared to most. My Fists http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ps2viha9j5.png My Jewels http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psadsyccp4.png Base P.atk http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...pspar65czv.jpg P.atk with backstep trigger http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...pso3bpsijr.jpg P.atk with dual trigger http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psabw900z2.jpg P.atk with both triggers http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psfdgjuuvz.jpg P.atk with all skills up and BR http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psphficivv.png |
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Elpy
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Good guide.
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Heathen Knight
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Not bad, with money easy to make a good eviscerator or any char, is all about items, with a little brain eviscerator is really easy to play and cheap dps compared to any dd with same gears/level problem is trash survivality if want increse ur dps to the max and u dont have pve set, diamond etc...
Anyway i dont see guide usefull for f2p evis...just showing all ur items,stats, but maybe can help some newbie. Is not envy i just want ur items ![]() ![]() |
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Elpy
Join Date: Oct 2015
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no need alot money for play evicerator and make it strong for rb and dailys
with just a weapon R99 +7 make alot difference if you compare to other class |
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Heathen Knight
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Ofc, evis cheapest dps class, the problem is the defense, low survivality but for make a really nice evis with super dps/survivality u need spend money yes or yes...like any class. i have 73k patack with back step, dual 27% patack and br... he get till 260k with all on... now tell me if it is not a big difference and better no talk about P/M deffense,,, ![]() |
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Remnant Diabolist
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There's plenty of terribly geared p2p Evis out there with bad builds, augments and SAs that simply don't work to the toon's strengths. The majority of people playing f2p will never been any good, unless you are amazing at markets and have played for years. If you don't want to buy even small amounts of ncoin, then you're playing the wrong game. For all others you can get a decent setup for less cost if you know what things to aim towards. Last edited by Ferine; 04-18-2016 at 09:24 AM. |
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Heathen Knight
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Small amounts of ncoin are 300-500 bucks x event? ![]() My point is if u reach 500 c. rate with POM/Turtle Buff w/o inside position lv3 on (bonus +40 c. rate more)... ur augment 40 critical rate is useless then dont try to teach nothing if u cant see simple things like this, and advice from completely f2p player... p2w more ![]() Last edited by Yuen; 04-18-2016 at 09:38 AM. |
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Remnant Diabolist
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Last edited by Ferine; 04-18-2016 at 10:01 AM. |
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Heathen Knight
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If atack speed is important (eviscerators sucks on this coz only get 15% pasive fist + 3% light set bonus, instead of tyrrs 25% weapon mastery + 10% pasive light armor + 3% bonus set) why u use tauti ring?
Tauti for pve sucks, u are rich, earth wyrmm + baium soul instead of Tauti for PvE will be nice coz both give atack speed bonus and extra stun bonus, stun useless in kama but good for open fields, just see now checking screens ![]() You even can reach perma 1500 atack speed without rudoplh i cant... ![]() |
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Elpy
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Tauti Ring isn't useless for PvE, it gives a boost to skill power. I invite you to test Steel Mind/Heavy Punch hits with the ring on to see the difference. |
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Remnant Diabolist
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![]() Also, as you said, stun boost is useless when it lands 90% in PvE anyway. |
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Heathen Knight
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without reaching max atack speed baium still x2 better than tauti in pve LOL or u spam skills with eviscerator killing mobs? hahaha even if u make super shots with heavy punch f1 still better... 5% skill power? ![]() ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQHR4ba3Lvs tell me how many times geared eviscerator use heavy punch killing mobs with or w/o steel, just lateral hit + right/left steeps LOL, skills in Pve = waste of dps if u cant see maybe i m not the wrong here. Last edited by Yuen; 04-19-2016 at 05:45 AM. |
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Remnant Diabolist
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As explained in there "Heavy Punch" is a PASSIVE TRIGGER that can give SKILL DAMAGE at a certain rate when melee attacking mobs, "Steel Mind" gives SKILL DAMAGE on top of every melee swing. Tauti boosts the biggest damage you do, during steel mind and battle rhapsody, Baium Soul doesn't (BR = 1500 atk speed guaranteed). ![]() Also I don't know if you've ever seen this evisc before, but he also uses Tauti (albeit real, unlike my fake 30 day one). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19BxPFpcOVI |
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Heathen Knight
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I know he is using too tauti, and i know with heavy punch u can make the max damage in 1 single shot, i just say in pve tauti is a bit useless, i m talking about max atack speed w/o BR ofc.. with BR all reach 1500, tauti good for PvP? OFC!, but for pve if u cant reach perma 1500 i think Baium Soul is a good choice thats all. ![]() |
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Remnant Diabolist
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It's far better to give a 5% boost to the biggest damage the toon has (40s of SM + BR) than to give a 2% boost to attack speed (1470->1500). Of course theres also the point that I also have Rudolph. :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37UK9wtV_ls Last edited by Ferine; 04-19-2016 at 07:09 AM. |
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Elpy
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very good guide.
Tauti Ring is important in both PVE and PVP. If you want to increase the DPS in Steel Mind, there is a more effective than Lindvior Earring.(i think) but, after the Helios updates is better to boost the critical damage. Heavy Punch and Steel Mind skill damage are about 30-40% down. but, P.Atk is increase. normal melee damage is boosted. Now stable in the PVE, but the DPS in PVP is fell. but it's still better than Yul... |
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Remnant Diabolist
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![]() Is all skill damage lower in Helios for all classes (Tyrr/Yul/Evi/Othel/Etc)? The only thing I can think of is that the damage of Steel Mind/Heavy Punch did give an unknown 30% boost compared to a skill of same power (Skill gave P.atk * 5 +30% damage), maybe this was removed! ![]() |
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Thunder Wyrm
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I know this yuen guy..
He buys ncoins for adena from players.. And guess what.. adena come from erthias and wizard orcs He is the lineage 2 wizard of oz...... ![]() ![]() Dont lie man.. |
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Goblin Lord
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Also, what about yul, are they useless in pvp now? |
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Elpy
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Heavy Punch and Steel Mind only lower. |
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