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Old 02-13-2006, 08:01 AM   #1
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Anyone know with the new raid bosses and C4 expansion if the loot tables have changed any? For example are there any raid bosses (or even mobs for that matter) that would drop a Majestic Circlet? In C3 it was not on any loot tables so only way to get it was via the TOI quest. Wondering if in C4 NC Soft woke up and added it to any of the raid bosses loot tables. Having failed two crafts now of the circlet I am hoping there is another option now to get the blasted thing.
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Old 02-13-2006, 06:14 PM   #2
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Hi lvl mobs in C4 drop A stuff now. On pts in Blazing swamps I was getting all kinds of parts but not a hole drop except 1 majestic neckless. But friends of mine got hole drops of armor/gloves/helms. Clan member got A wepdrops from mobs in new areas but dont remember what mob. But remember this was all on pts. Hopefully is all the same on live server. I imagine the drop rate is horrible though just like everything else.
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Old 02-13-2006, 06:19 PM   #3
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Theres lots of new spoils in the new areas, a 62 BH friend of mine was getting A grade mats pretty regularly on mobs up there.

As for full drops, I immagine that there is a chance of a full maj circlet drop but I wouldnt know which mobs/bosses drop it. And the rate is probably so low that you would want S grade by the time you got the drop...
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Old 02-13-2006, 11:14 PM   #4
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From what I have seen so far, Raid-Bosses dont give fulldrops anymore. With C4, 90-95% of them only drop key-mats!!!
Horrible, horrible, horrible change

At least a definite plus for Warsmith, they will have lots of work now...
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Old 02-14-2006, 12:15 AM   #5
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yeah im keeping an eye on this
yesterday in forest of the dead i got 12 stem from a 1x hp mob
yet to see more than 1 varnish or anything besides thread but if they make the mat drops abit more reasonable you might actually see me craft something besides ss
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Old 02-14-2006, 12:46 AM   #6
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I was talking of Raid-bosses, not normal mobs.
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Old 02-14-2006, 01:11 AM   #7
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quite aware of that but someone said raidbosses dropping blades is a + for ws's
only if normal mobs drop more mats

might be off topic but w/e i guess
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quite aware of that but someone said raidbosses dropping blades is a + for ws's


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Sure it's a plus for WS, how can you argue?
Every Ally that is doing raids will value their WS even more after this change....

To your side-note:
A WS is meant to CRAFT, not to gather all mats alone by himself

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still going off topic but here goes
in c3 say we got 100 a grade weapons
50 of those would come from raids the other 50 would be crafted
in c4 say no weapons come from raids only blades
we still need 100 weapons but the problem may be that we still only have enough mats to craft 50

add in the quests that sucks 1000's of mats out of the econemy (ears and wedding)
so where do all the extra mats come from?

like i said i got 12 stem from a single mob but have yet to get more than 1 varnish

so where do the extra mats come from?
certainly not from legit spoilers since they are out of order right now
manor? nope

someone has to supply the ws's
but yes you are right its prolly a + for ws's
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Old 02-14-2006, 02:57 AM   #10
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I understand your concern about increased need of base mats.
So maybe, C4 will really be the age of the WS and BH??

BH of course only if the sweeping-bug will be fixed before C5 arrives
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got some good news for the poor spoilers
since you guys cant spoil in party
and you cant kill mobs solo
i thought id check it out lets just say its almost worth a ws spoiling the new mobs, got tallum boots mats phoenix and maj gems and swept up to 8 varnish from 1 mob

so once that tiny tiny bug is figured out looks to be the age of the spoiler
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Old 02-14-2006, 04:30 AM   #12
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We did about 15 raid bosses yesterday. We got 1 weapon, 2 pieces of armor, lots of parts to armor and weapons, about 3 useful dyes, 1 blessed enchant armor, 5-10 enchant armors, and 4-5 enchant weapons.

Contrast this with C3 where we'd do a dozen bosses, and get dozens of EA's, a few EW's, a weapon or three, and several dozen armor pieces. Raid bosses got beat silly with the nerf stick.

The thing that annoys me is that the raid bosses no longer drop any mats at all. So that kind of sucks. BTW, these are all low-level bosses.
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Old 02-14-2006, 06:22 AM   #13
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To answer the actual question: Nephilim Commanders and Lilim Court Knights have both Nightmare helm and Majestic circlet listed as drops. lvl 80 mobs, have fun
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Thanks for info...where are those mobs though in disciples or something?
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Old 02-14-2006, 10:10 AM   #15
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About Raid bosses, i've got the stupidest question, but... how do you kill them ?
I once ran into one, the succubus in the fortress, i started to hit her but she didnt lose any HP ! So i thought i first had to kill all of her guards, which i did, then i started hitting her again, but still she didnt lose anything !
So, ultimately, she just killed me
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Old 02-14-2006, 10:13 AM   #16
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hehe^^

You need to have a lot of people to kill one. Typically done by alliances, or clans of nukers.

Edit: But I hear that raid bosses are easier in C4.. So maybe you need less people than you did before.
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Old 02-14-2006, 10:20 AM   #17
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Oh, ok !
But she was yellow to me, and all of her guards were white, and there didnt seem to be so much guards, so i thought i could give it a try ("cool, i can kill a raid boss by myself" )!
So there's no way you can actually kill a raid boss alone ?
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Old 02-14-2006, 10:26 AM   #18
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lol, dont worry. You should have heard people when they first introduced raid bosses "Well, it was blue to me, so I figured I could take it"

Short answer, no you can't kill one by yourself.
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Old 02-14-2006, 11:50 AM   #19
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I'm not so sure of that anymore. A fully buffed up low level toon with well-plussed up gear against a light blue boss....maybe its possible? I know that C4 raid bosses have been dropped by as few as 12 people, and I've heard second hand stories of less.
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The raidboss in dimension rift can be dropped with a 9 man party, also the C3 minibosses that were turned into raidbosses are easy and as such I think can be dropped with 12 man or so.
Not that C3 bosses needed much more since the farmers seemed to do bosses with pretty few ppl >.>
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