PVP

[draco]

I went to a seige the other day. A clan not signed up for the seige hiding on the outskirts of the seige boundry picking off some ppl on the outskirts of this seige boundry. By popping in and running out. That is fine, it is part of the game. I go red to prevent this sort of interruption and to my dismay ppl attacking me (pvp) dont go purple. (???) Going red or attacking a red is a decision like anything esle, involving pvp. For a game that prides itslef on PVP it makes no sense to hinder pvp in this manner. Fine a player is red and ppl gonna attack them for the possible mistake of being over or at 5pks, for a drop. But to attack any player is pvp red or not red. Also, why should a red take another pk count for someone who is attacking them since a pk count is to be for killing ppl not in combat. There is no reason one can not defend themselves if they so should choose to, but to defend or attack is still pvp. PVP is combat and warrants combat status or it is a contridiction of the game that says it promotes pvp. I appreciate the red status of the game for killing ppl not flagged or not in combat. Killing a red has a reward system and going red has some benificial statagy to it at times. Attacking a player ,or a red, is a risk you take for entering combat, period. The red should get a pvp score as well, rather than another pk count.

[Elrohir]

PK != PvP.

There are penalties for going red.

Whites don't flag on reds.

Welcome to L2.

[Gecklar]

Something Like this has been discussed before. The reason that people dont flag anymore when attacking reds is to stiffen the penalty for pking. Used to be that reds would run around with high lvls who waited for people to flag on the red. Then slaughter the flagger. Now, a red can only be defended by another player who will go red if they kill the attacker.

The suggestion has been made to add a third color like green or something, that keeps the person attacking the red from being an open target for much higher lvl toons in league with the red, but allows the red to fight back without getting more kharma or another pk.

[Spudnik]

i used to go to sieges on lvl 1 toons and hang around the border. i would pop in, then out and this would cause me to auto flag for about 15 seconds. when nobody came, i would sit and wait to turn white again and repeat the process.

the 3rd time was always a charm. i woyuld move about 5 feet too far off the siege border and when someone spotted me getting up and going for the border again they would always 1 shot me and i wouldnt have made t to the border yet.

reds during siege = LAUGHING OUT LOUD AT THE NOOBS THAT DIDNT DO SINEATER that drop gear inevitably.

man, thinking back, i msut have gotten at least a dozen people to do this.

[Wardancer]

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he reason that people dont flag anymore when attacking reds is to stiffen the penalty for pking.

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People never flagged for attacking reds. Reds have always been considered mobs with a higher drop rate.

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Used to be that reds would run around with high lvls who waited for people to flag on the red.

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Sure... if you played Korean PTS. I don't believe that ever made it to the NA servers as any more than a thought.

[Orvieta]

PK = PVP...Pompus wasn't it?

[Spudnik]

right. man we burned him into a crisp.