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Old 05-29-2007, 10:40 AM   #1
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First of all I've gotta say "What a great game." I've just been playing it for 4 days now and have been very impressed by many of this games features & I've played ALL of the widely known MMORPGs. I've been on a rant trying to bring in new players getting them upto speed on this games concept and playability. But when asked of any glaring flaws with the game, I was completely stumped. Nothing came to mind. Yesterday my best friend came over to check out the game in person and was also amazed at the game. But when he went to roll up a Human, he was shocked he couldnt be black or Brown or any other shade to our dismay. How did this huge over sight happen??? It's now the second person I tried selling the game to that ended up saying they'd rather not play or concede to play another race to try and get around this issue. For me, i had no problem cause im a sexy grey toned DarkElf. But if theres room to create green skinned Orcs...you couldnt make something as simple as a Human with color variation? Perhaps you guys have all discussed this before. I just think this company is potentially losing out on a huge player base & monthly sales if they dont work on this.

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Old 05-29-2007, 10:48 AM   #2
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Default Re: Human skin color O.o

You might notice that the human starting area is a temperate zone. The environmental conditions necessary to create a "black" ethnicity don't exist. Aden doesn't have a desert/arid-dwelling culture, Goddard I guess coming closest but, being that the city is rather far north, I suspect those are cold-weather deserts (such as the Yakima desert which sees snowfall every year) and lack the environment that created the Negroid race in the real world.
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:52 AM   #3
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we need to respesent the black people!
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:10 AM   #4
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I'd be shocked if people didnt want to play a *game* if they coudnt be dark skinned.

I mean, come on :X
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:15 AM   #5
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True enough. I can understand a planet and it's evolution and such, but wow. How hard would it be in another expansion to do something as simple as that? I feel many players want to imagine themselves running on those fields, and that character being their avatar in the world of Lineage.
Like I said, Im still going to play (I love this game) but I know others that wont over something as simple as a color tone.
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:21 AM   #6
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That's just wierd ....
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Old 05-29-2007, 12:03 PM   #7
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From the costume design, I believe that Orcs are meant to fill that role.
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Old 05-29-2007, 12:53 PM   #8
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Thanks Wardancer. Your earlier explanation does work for me & I can see that in all honesty. Maybe I can try to get him to play a Half Orc. They do look pretty awesome.
Good luck & thanks for your post all.
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Old 05-29-2007, 12:57 PM   #9
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But if theres room to create green skinned Orcs...you couldnt make something as simple as a Human with color variation?
You cannot create a pink-skinned Orc either.

Orcs in L2 are green. Humans in L2 are orange. If you cannot live with something as simple as this, there would be a lot of other reasons for you not to play L2.
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Old 05-29-2007, 01:10 PM   #10
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I think this is the first time, anyone has complained about skin color here o.O Seriously.

Hair styles yes. Hair color yes. Face limitations, yes.

But skin tone? Pretty sure this is a first.
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Old 05-29-2007, 01:37 PM   #11
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Also, judging by the setting, world exploration had not begun in earnest at this time. Thus all the other races of human are happy in their own lands waiting to be discovered and disrupted by the interferring orange people.
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Old 05-29-2007, 01:44 PM   #12
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Welcome to the game PennyDreadful and gratz for playing it.

I don't see why there should be provision for different colour skins to match the real world in an unreal fantasy world. We have five races that happen to be very white, white, shades of grey and Orcish green.
We all take on different personas in this game although some of our own traits still come through :P I never wear blue knickers in real life but 'Bints Full Plate shows them off rather well !
I play this game to get away from the real world as much as possible. We're getting political correctness shoved down our throats in Britain atm, the last thing I want is it appearing here.
If someone can't play a game because of skin tone then its a pretty sad world.
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Old 05-29-2007, 03:15 PM   #13
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it might sound harsh but WE ARE NOT F(edit) PLAYING WoW!
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Old 05-29-2007, 05:00 PM   #14
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That is interesting...I have never thought of this myself. I don't think the question is of real world human regional genetic mutation, but rather of the setting. The reason you don't have Negro style characters is the same as why you don't have Arabic, and Oriental type characters. This game is built on "high fantasy." This genre of art/writing/games/etc. stems “mainly” from the folk stories, myths, art, and history of Medieval European cultures.

As such, there are no Samurai, African Tribesmen, or Moorish Raiders. Any of these could have been drawn on by the developers, but they chose not to. They stuck to the rather Tolkien model of humanity from the perspective of the Germanic, Roman, and Greek ideals. *Shrug,* perhaps Gracia will indeed be a kingdom based on eastern influences. I could see the art department making some real captivating architecture, and landscape if it is. I would heartily welcome this in fact, but it is all ultimately in the hands of the developers sculpting the world we play in. Thus far they have chosen to stick to the above mentioned things.

Also, I know this may be politically incorrect (political correctness being something I do not buy, or sell.) If someone wants to have the skin tone/look of a true African Negro character do they also want to fight a Gargoyle with a loincloth and javelin, or the armor of a traditional Abyssinian Warrior?

With plate and maille armors, long swords, and shields comes the European Knight himself. Yes, it is a game, and you could have a Negro Knight, but you can see the image that the Korean developers were going after for the Aden-Elmore Humans. They are every bit the bigot ridden, power hungry people that they mimic from our world.
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Default Re: Human skin color O.o

Well I am as black as you can be and never had a problem with the skin color of any of the races, but indeed will fun for character customization to be able to change the skin color tone a little bit lets say humans from pale white to a sexy African or Caribbean black skin, DE from grey to ligh blue kind of skin, LE from pale white to a light tan color, orcs from light green to really dark green, and dorf from white to dark tan, once again is not necessary for the game but will be a really easy and cool customization for the game
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Old 05-29-2007, 07:41 PM   #16
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The simple truth is white is more mainstream in many forms of "pop culture". Get used to it. Nevertheless, a black skin for humans would be cool though ^^
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:59 PM   #17
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korean made game...
fantasy game (omg there'll be green and gray people around!)

and seriously... why do you have to care about skin colour? I thought those "minorities" were the ones asking that skin colour be "ignored".

tbh I think these things get hyped up for no reason, there is no benefit to it other than that the end result makes one side feel better about their own appearances.
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:59 PM   #18
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I think this is the first time, anyone has complained about skin color here o.O Seriously.

Hair styles yes. Hair color yes. Face limitations, yes.

But skin tone? Pretty sure this is a first.
Nope. I didn't make this picture for nothing, two and a half months ago.
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:31 PM   #19
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I belive someone noticed back a few months ago about someting similar to this as far as diffent color hair and armors. Had something to do with keeping game lag to a min.

If in times of huge lag, log in and port to giran. You will notice how u see similar chars all appear in groups at the same time same hair race etc... Imagine how long it take to refresh if each char was so unique in color as well?
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:23 AM   #20
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If in times of huge lag, log in and port to giran. You will notice how u see similar chars all appear in groups at the same time same hair race etc... Imagine how long it take to refresh if each char was so unique in color as well?
Exactly the same time. Pixel shaders FTW. And you can turn it off if you want, too.
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