Dark Elf Skills - feedback because there is none

[Orig_Desha]

Hey

Yes, I am new to this game, only lvl 19. I find it very odd there seems no player feedback in here, or in anywhere regarding our skills, what is worth it for various character setups, what isnt.

I would like to just start this topic, if it goes no where so be it, but I personally, and Im sure alot of other new players, would like to see feedback from high level characters as to what is worth investing in and what is not (partly dependant on character setup as well of course)

Feel free to post here, Im more/less just turning this loose to the community.

And lastly, I do have a question regarding a particular skill, that is Drain Health. It is a very Sp costly skill, and ive seen little effect from the lvl 1 version, although I really need some input, as I can forsee this being a 'free' heal during grinding *if* at the skills higher levels it transfers alot of health. I have already seen it is practically worthless for anything but grinding against Pve, and it cant be used effectively any other time than at the start of a fight where there is time to stand there and chant, still, if this skill provides good health transfer, it could be great for grinding by keeping your health up. Love to hear feedback on this, I cant find it in myself to burn another huge amount of Sp on this skill until I see its worth doing.

[Nerukan]

Well many of these skills are in common use, since they're obtained at low levels. Evaluations of them are only necessary to players of your level then, of which there are few.

However your need is great and you asked, so you shall receive. Since I am a dark elf and have been so for three years I can offer you advice on whatever common skill you ask.

Now personally I buy all of my skills. After you die quite a bit, SP is not a problem. SP becomes a problem again at the 76+ skills. I'm not there yet, and I'm not worrying about it, so I like to get all of my skills even if they're generally useless.

The usefulness of Drain Health depends a little on what class you intend on going. Let me know that piece of information and we can expand on it further. It's not the worst Dark elf skill, but I can certainly see where you're coming from. However, it has it's uses and these will depend first on the class.

[Orig_Desha]

Awsome, thanks Nerukan

I was not aware that purchase of skills was even possible, so I do see the lack of information about skills in depth is somewhat irrelavent then, as of course over time one can obtain all. Interesting and good to know

I am lvl 19 about 10% away from 20, (finally ), and plan on moving on with Palus Knight, then potentially blade dancer, although Im not yet sure on blade dancer or Shillien Knight, will take some more investigating, but thats far off.

Thanks for the response, my apologies as I did not know skills could be purchased so I have been under the impression that once u get a skill/dont choose another skill, you may never return to change your mind... Also used to 20 thousand posts per 'proffesion/class' from Swg, newcomer syndrome

[Nerukan]

ah I see

Well yes indeed, skills here basically work like this:

Certain classes can only get certain skills. You get a selection of them every few levels (they're set levels, different for fighters and mages).

Obviously you'll get your first set at 20. As a fighter your next set will be 24, then 28 (the intervals decrease eventually).

From those selections of skills you can get any and all of them from the SP you've collected over time, or don't get one. Even so, like I hinted before, you should have enough to get all of them before your next level interval.

Based on your class info I can say that Drain Health will eventually be useful one way or the other. Just thought I'd answer that now I have your class anyway :P If you want more details on any specific skill, feel free to ask

[Oldfart]

I think by purchasing skills, Nerukan means "spending" SP to get them from a trainer (not adena).

[Savian]

Drain Health is a nice skill for the early game. Specially if you play solo it is worth the sp invested. It gets kindda useless after lvl 40 (and totaly useless in higher levels) but its not a big deal cause SKs get to learn an improved version of it and BDs are party animals so it doesn´t matter.

[Quizap]

I've pretty new as well. I currently have a Human Knight up to 26 but when I looked up the SK's and TK's skills their cubics seem to be a bigger help farther down the road. I was wondering which is a better role to play later in the game respectively? Pal? DA? SK? TK?

Edit: Forgot to mention that I plan on doing both PvE and PvP down the road.

[MrTeedOff]

"IF" you go BD here are the skills I didnt bother to train: confusion, shield block (past lvl1), dance of earthguard and dance of protection. Most of the other skills "can" be useful.

I dont use the drain health skill much, but I still train it. There are always situations when it might make sense to use it.

For example, you are pvping a rogue type class (dagger or archer) and they use ultimate evasion. Swing those swords as much as you want, you wont be hitting jack. Take that time to use your 100% land rate skills (sting, freezing strike, drain health). You will be surprised how much dmg you can actually do to a low mdef class like a dagger.

[Matsumoto]

if you go SK stop learning Drain health, Save the SP.

SK gets a skill called life leach which is a much improved version of drain health. SK also has a cubic that vamps HP from their target.

BD don't get those up grades like SK does, and you will almost never use it unless you're killing 1X hp mobs with little to no buffs.

Sure drain health is useful 20-40, but once you second class you wont need it so much. Also you can use Bsps on them to make the HP return more effective! Even using a high M atk weapon (shadow weapons, 20-52) works well if your going to use the skill for what it's meant to do (return alot of HP). duels, and 1 / 2 handed fighter swords don't have high M atk, unless it's a mage type weapon, then it does.

[Savian]

You will also be surprised how a low Mdef class, like a dagger using UE, will gain most, if not all, his cp back by breaking a handfull of pots before you can land another 100% land skill.

I don't remember C & B grades but at A grade & up you wont get half a descent amount of HP back even with BSpS. Never tryed with a mage wapon but i don´t see many BDs running arround with SoMs either. Again not that it matters, as SK you get a better skill, as BD you should be in a party so who cares... let the healer and the DDs do their thing...

And Mr T is right regarding that other useless skills, at least with its current effect (and I would add poison to this list, it isn't worth the MP it costs)

And regarding the tanks... Right now DA is the best all arround tank People say that a well played SK will have an uper hand in PvP but I dunno I know these are pretty rare to come by... Pal and TK used to be horrible, both got very nice boosts and will likely get more in the future but they are so rare I couldn't say how good they are now. None are Ubber for PvE or PvP though...

[MrTeedOff]

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You will also be surprised how a low Mdef class, like a dagger using UE, will gain most, if not all, his cp back by breaking a handfull of pots before you can land another 100% land skill.

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its better to make them pot than to do 0 dmg to them.

I do agree about the poison thing. Only reason I didnt put it on there is because I did learn that skill >.< The only time I ever use it is when im messing around in the arena and want to land sting / poison to see how fast their hp drops.

[lord]

DA suck with out they cat they nothing
im a sk and i rock s grade DA's and im not even s grade u kill cat no more DA but sk u cant kill sk cubies no no and drain life is awsome u dont get much back on pvp or pve but it does alot of damge when peoepl are runing lol
freeze strick slowing people and does ok damge leech life i use on pve to gain hp with leech life and drain life and my cube i can heal my self up to 1k life in pve in pvp its aout half that
i got hex(lower pdef) and power break(lower Pattck) i land that and my cube get wind shack(attck speed) lol gg
then we got arrest(like root) and LS(para and does damge) which doesnt land more like 40% in pvp but when it does im sorry but GF
then we got are viper cube which does auto posion on people
and if are posion that we do doesnt the cube always posion
then we got sting(bleed effect)that with posion help alot and jugment( lowe crti rate miss up archers and dagger and will any class) and does great damge
i mean sk people say suck but come on what do da have umm let see cat when died what esle do they have (cat die very easyliy always kill cat)
stun and judgement arest and drain life (but they never usedrain life or they heal skill which is a low lvl)
not to much really cuz without cat DA suck lol im not even talking about the skills like guard stance and forest sheild we also (sk) get agies which is passive and its sheild from 360 all around DA get but they have to us mana per sec and stuff so they waste all mana use those ans stuning u and doing hate to get u off cat by the time the cats died he has no mana and he done
when its comes to pve i rock i got so much damge and with hex and my cubie out i can solo hs with self buff pretty easyly with bd or just a pp i can do crazy awsome
and they all right a sk like me its super rare the only sk i know crazy liek me is ether the hero or the ur sk solodragon
umm but sk are very good at soloing
oh yeah one more thing Matsumoto u still in burn ally im looking for u all and ibiteback since he "the new leader" ^^
lol im sorry for this long as thing but im done

[Nightfox]

ugh, english is a good language when you know it..

[MrTeedOff]

OMG I just about punched myself in the face to stop the pain.

[Madders]

Lay off you two, obvious English isn't his first language but you both know what he has written can be understood.

I hate people criticising someone else for at least trying.

[MrTeedOff]

It's not the english part... its that he didn't break it into paragraphs. Soooo hard to read.

[Nightfox]

He is using the typical Hero language on my server.
The typical "I only know online gaming omgpwnd" type of english. Cant help myself when I see that stuff...
It´s almost a 100% connected to botting and ebaying, and underaged people, or people who act underaged.

And yeah, paragraphs for the win (:

But yeah, for being judgemental, I am sorry.

[Matsumoto]

good replay over all.

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oh yeah one more thing Matsumoto u still in burn ally im looking for u all and ibiteback since he "the new leader"

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how does this fit into the discussion?

yes I have a alt in it, but not my main, I moved on..and I've already out lvl ibite main..so w/e man..I'll out lvl you to.

btw who are you >.<?

[jkoster]

One thing that I didn't see here (and to be fair I didn't REALLY look too hard) is that Drain Life works better if you use a blessed spiritshot with it. The casting speed is decreased, and you'll do a bit more damage.

I'm not sure how that will translates back to your hp, but I can assume that it'd be a few more, at least. I know that when I use my assassin's Drain Life I always burn BSPS-d and I actually do some decent damage with it. Great way to pull a 2x mob.

[Nerukan]

It does increase the HP drain too. Pretty sure that's purely based on the damage of the drain, so increases with it.