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Old 02-13-2009, 11:39 AM   #1
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Default LvL 81 skills -> lvl 83 skills soon?

Hi,
i heard that NCsoft wants to change the lvl 81 skills into lvl 83 skills , so that we would only get stuff like fighters will on lvl 81..
If thats true...
W T F !?
Dear NCsoft, did you EVER try to lvl up a tank to lvl 81+ on your own, and then you got told its basicly for NOTHING !?
I hope thats all a misunderstanding or...-.-
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:46 AM   #2
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Hi,
i heard that NCsoft wants to change the lvl 81 skills into lvl 83 skills , so that we would only get stuff like fighters will on lvl 81..
If thats true...
W T F !?
Dear NCsoft, did you EVER try to lvl up a tank to lvl 81+ on your own, and then you got told its basicly for NOTHING !?
I hope thats all a misunderstanding or...-.-
Gonna get new skills at 81.
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:50 AM   #3
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Default Re: LvL 81 skills -> lvl 83 skills soon?

old news thou and yes tanks get new skills at 81 and the old ones are moved up a bit, see for more info the below link with courtesy of EllieBellie

http://www2.elliebelly.net/index.php...viewforum&f=15
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:46 PM   #4
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Default Re: LvL 81 skills -> lvl 83 skills soon?

Obviously they should stop catering to whiners and delete the skills on players who are below that level, but they won't.
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:59 PM   #5
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lol. you are a cynic Trensharo. No way they should remove the skills. Once you have them, they are yours. But those who dont have the skill, level, or don't have the book will not be able to get them until 83, is all.
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Old 02-13-2009, 02:06 PM   #6
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I may be wrong..but i read somewhere that you get the SP back which you spend on those...but i may be completly wrong and confusing this issue with a nother one.
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Old 02-13-2009, 02:16 PM   #7
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Default Re: LvL 81 skills -> lvl 83 skills soon?

no sp for those skills
they should just remove the skills from all the ppl that have them now and replace them with the book so they can relearn when they are 82/3
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If they don't bring parity to all 'like' skills, it's just another example if NC screwing with whatever little balance their game actually has.

Oh my learn level on said skill is 81. Mine is 83.

How the hell can this be quantified as anything but a stupid decision? Giving people who don't have the skills a free +2 just because they got there late/legit and screwing the natural balance of the skill enchant system is just wow...
These people need to be fired. While it potentially screws over botters, which is cool, it messes up the game system which is far more important for consistency. How any designer worth their salt can not appreciate that is beyond me.

I personally fell sorry for all the people who already have the 81 skills...
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Old 02-13-2009, 05:33 PM   #9
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They bring new skills?
oh right that skill for lvl 60... >
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I looked on Ellybelly but i did not see how the GK skills 81+ are being moved. any info?
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Old 02-14-2009, 05:38 AM   #11
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They bring new skills?
oh right that skill for lvl 60... >
Every class gets pretty uber 81 passives....
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This is stupid, it's a direct example of helping those that are at the top, and hurting those that aren't there yet.
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Old 02-14-2009, 04:57 PM   #13
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no sp for those skills
they should just remove the skills from all the ppl that have them now and replace them with the book so they can relearn when they are 82/3
Bah to u! Although, if the books were put in inventory, that wouldn't be so bad. Those books are harder than hell to get. However, I don't see them removing already learned skills.
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Old 02-14-2009, 05:33 PM   #14
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Default Re: LvL 81 skills -> lvl 83 skills soon?

They put a notice "bot moar lol" in the inventory too because they are funny, aren't they ?
I'm curious how many chars are 83+ because after all the next update is dedicated to them
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Old 02-14-2009, 08:12 PM   #15
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Actually I know a nice group of people, perfectly legit, that are 83+. Most of them play a lot, true. But please, can we stop with the tedious associations of high levels with botting. It's a little boring. In fact, I'm almost 82, and depending on when Final comes out, I could be 83 by then. I really want the bishop skill that's been reported.
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Wow you caught me and passed me in two levels
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Bah to u! Although, if the books were put in inventory, that wouldn't be so bad. Those books are harder than hell to get. However, I don't see them removing already learned skills.
yeah thats the problem
it's not that it's hard to get to 81 but i could have been 81 for the past 6 months and still not have a book while anyone with a credit card could go out and buy em at 6x in the hopes that years down the track they might ding and be able to use it
really really bad game design imo
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Actually I know a nice group of people, perfectly legit, that are 83+. Most of them play a lot, true. But please, can we stop with the tedious associations of high levels with botting. It's a little boring. In fact, I'm almost 82, and depending on when Final comes out, I could be 83 by then. I really want the bishop skill that's been reported.
You did the association. The point is how many players reached it. I don't care if bobshappyfarm.com has a bot train of lvl 85.
If there are only a dozen, then NCsoft is clearly saying "bot moar".
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Old 02-15-2009, 03:01 PM   #19
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What, that wasn't your insinuation? So it's all me? Come on.

I'm not denying there are high-level players that were botted up there, however, it is the natural evolution of the game to have the number of players at the highest levels much fewer than the median. And there are those that have gotten there without "assistance."
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Old 02-17-2009, 12:51 AM   #20
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Can somebody explain to me this:8hours sleep,8hours work and lets say 8hours play L2.

How the hell out someone can go by pressing F1,F2, for 8 hours(optimal) continiously,form 79lvl to 83lvl?I know some who are allready 84lvl.

HOW? When you said in another post that 79--->80 requires at least 2 billions of exp and raising on next lvls.

Do you know something that we don't know?
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