Gracia+ Patch Notes

[statusqou]

http://www.l2guru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123519

Some crazy stuff here....

Vaguard basically gets bizon
SE's gets 2x more love than other 2 healers with new skill link.
No EXP loss on skill OE instead of EXP adenas will be taken... OMG.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by statusqou

http://www.l2guru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123519

Some crazy stuff here....

Vaguard basically gets bizon
SE's gets 2x more love than other 2 healers with new skill link.
No EXP loss on skill OE instead of EXP adenas will be taken... OMG.

Darn...bish with clarity and improved magic (or PR if hell brakes lose)
or SE with major heal, major group heal, clarity and BoA


Lets see how mutch of that will get to live servers....I don't like the adena instead of EXP on skill enchanting.

[statusqou]

It's probably done for adena sink purpose. But I would like to have an option to visit NPC and have EXP consumption as it's now.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by statusqou

But I would like to have an option to visit NPC and have EXP consumption as it's now.

+1

[Rosalina]

lol... All of a sudden the live-played Shillien Saints have something to be joyous over beyond stigma!

[Varaya]

Originally Posted by Rosalina

lol... All of a sudden the live-played Shillien Saints have something to be joyous over beyond stigma!

Because some new in-game mechanics allow them to buy the skills OTHER classes have? That sounds a bit like "we have no clue what to do with this class, let's just give them EE/Bishop skills, then we do not have to think of anything new"

I'd prefer SEs to become more interesting by getting some unique skills of their own (like stigma, which really rocks - and which in gracia+ of course EE and Bishop will have, too), but I don't really complain, since this change will allow SE to be "main healer" again. It is kinda ridiculous when you are a supposed "healer" class and your heals do not even move the HP bar of a tank or destroyer.

Rumours are that this skill link thing only works for 74- skills, so Cardinals still have balance life and all the other high lvl skills and will still be the best healers. It also remains to be seen if there are any other restrictions on the "borrowed" skills (e.g. can you enchant them?).

[Saruon]

Originally Posted by Varaya

Because some new in-game mechanics allow them to buy the skills OTHER classes have? That sounds a bit like "we have no clue what to do with this class, let's just give them EE/Bishop skills, then we do not have to think of anything new"

I'd prefer SEs to become more interesting by getting some unique skills of their own (like stigma, which really rocks - and which in gracia+ of course EE and Bishop will have, too), but I don't really complain, since this change will allow SE to be "main healer" again. It is kinda ridiculous when you are a supposed "healer" class and your heals do not even move the HP bar of a tank or destroyer.

Rumours are that this skill link thing only works for 74- skills, so Cardinals still have balance life and all the other high lvl skills and will still be the best healers. It also remains to be seen if there are any other restrictions on the "borrowed" skills (e.g. can you enchant them?).

WOW!!! I'd take..... Major heal, major group heal, clarity, and trance or PR XD sad thing tho.... nobody will be unique anymore..O.o a bishi with vr..? I hope nobody else gets stigma! like for real a ee or bishi with a skill with the name shilen in it..? O.o

[mcBuff]

This update for the healers are just retarded... Having too many similar skills between support classes is a very bad idea. I am extremely dissapointed to see how clueless the devs are.

[Saruon]

Originally Posted by mcBuff

This update for the healers are just retarded... Having too many similar skills between support classes is a very bad idea. I am extremely dissapointed to see how clueless the devs are.

I agree : o pps should be able to steal like 4 of wcs stuff too tho @_@ that way everybody can have fun with ncsofts retarded mistakes XD

[Varaya]

Originally Posted by mcBuff

This update for the healers are just retarded... Having too many similar skills between support classes is a very bad idea. I am extremely dissapointed to see how clueless the devs are.

Yes, I would prefer it if classes which are supposed to do similar jobs would do it with different skills (unique skills for each class). Then you would have situations where one class is better and another time a different class is better, because of different skills.

If all classes get mostly the same skills, you can have a situation where one particular class ALWAYS trumps the others - they have 90% same skills but one has one added "plus" the others don't have, so why take anything else (e.g. Warcryer vs Prophet). This is bad in a game like L2 where people always want "the best" in their party.

I guess Warcryers can be happy that now people will stop complaining about their overpowered mp leeching, instead people will now complain about overpowered healing classes

[mcBuff]

Originally Posted by Saruon

I agree : o pps should be able to steal like 4 of wcs stuff too tho @_@ that way everybody can have fun with ncsofts retarded mistakes XD

I don't think the combo buffs can be learnt. There's not really a point for pp to get 4 wc buffs. Even it helps in mp, but doesn't really help the class. I see EE is going to be the next mage fav buffpet instead of SE, if EE can learn empower from SE. Hm.... well if SE can learn clarity too @.@ so besides EE having powater and blessing of eva, I think I'll prefer SE more if this happens.

[Varaya]

Originally Posted by mcBuff

I don't think the combo buffs can be learnt. There's not really a point for pp to get 4 wc buffs. Even it helps in mp, but doesn't really help the class. I see EE is going to be the next mage fav buffpet instead of SE, if EE can learn empower from SE.

SE and EE will be practically identical then (SE can get clarity from EE, and the prophecies are both useful for nukers, one gives a bit higher mcrit rate, the other gives higher mcrit damage and more max hp). If you cannot borrow combo buffs, SE still has magic barrier over EE. But seriously, for just going to iop both are about the same.

[Saruon]

Originally Posted by mcBuff

I see EE is going to be the next mage fav buffpet instead of SE, if EE can learn empower from SE.

Hmmm thats fine with me

[sh0ck]

nothing for already dead PP class...

[mcBuff]

Originally Posted by sh0ck

nothing for already dead PP class...

I believe NC disagrees that PP is a dead class, so PP is not a dead class (*Sarcastic emoticon*... the Smiles provided gets me Bad Input all the time!! >:| )

[Varaya]

Originally Posted by mcBuff

I believe NC disagrees that PP is a dead class, so PP is not a dead class (*Sarcastic emoticon*... the Smiles provided gets me Bad Input all the time!! >:| )

Yup, I get that smiley error too - it happens when the "preview" form has the smiley symbol in the text input box, you have to replace the smiley there with the text representation,
e.g. has to be replaced with : D before you hit "submit"

[statusqou]

2nd class is past already... Specially for healers those skills doesn't make class unique in any way. Also this is a boost for SE's because as it is now they're not even close to be healers nor buffers.

[bel]

Nothing for dwarfs so far....

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by woonaloow

Nothing for dwarfs so far....

suprised?

[bel]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

suprised?

I believe this is not full patch notes yet Will have smth. for dwarfs....


But the idea of enchanting skills for ADENA? Please... this is ridiculous!! Unless it would cost like 3mil at +1 and increasing....

*crossing fingers*