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Old 05-26-2009, 12:58 AM   #1
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Default Gracia Plus - Healer skills

Here's the list of skills that they can learn from:

EE
Purify – Level 3
Repose – Level 13
Hold Undead – Level 12
Requiem – Level 14
Empower – Level 3
Peace – Level 15
Focus – Level 3
Greater Battle Heal – Level 33
Guidance – Level 3
Death Whisper – Level 3
Mass Rez – Level 6
Restore Life – Level 4
Vampiric Rage – Level 4
Benediction – Level 1
Prayer – Level 3
Body of Avatar – Level 6
Holy Resistance – Level 3
Magical Backfire – Level 10
Mana Storm – Level 5
Major Group Heal – Level 5
Celestial Shield – Level 1
Bless the Blood – Level 7
Stigma of Shilen – Level 4
Resist Wind - Level 3

SE
Resist Poison – Level 3
Repose – Level 13
Hold Undead – Level 12
Holy Weapon – Level 1
Regeneration – Level 3
Requiem – Level 14
Return – Level 2
Peace – Level 15
Agility – Level 3
Greater Battle Heal – Level 33
Bless Shield – Level 6
Mass Rez – Level 6
Party Return – Level 2
Decrease Weight – Level 3
Restore Life – Level 4
Resist Shock – Level 4
Benediction – Level 1
Serenade of Eva – Level 13
Advance Block – Level 3
Prayer – Level 3
Body of Avatar – Level 6
Unholy Resistance – Level 3
Magical Backfire – Level 10
Clarity – Level 3
Mana Storm – Level 5
Major Group Heal – Level 5
Celestial Shield – Level 1
Turn Undead - Level 10
Might of Heaven - Level 19
Trance - Level 10
Major Heal - Level 11
Vitalize - Level 27


Bishop
Recharge – Level 32
Resist Poison – Level 3
Return – Level 2
Empower – Level 3
Agility – Level 3
Resist Wind – Level 3
Guidance – Level 3
Death Whisper – Level 3
Bless Shield – Level 6
Decrease Weight – Level 3
Resist Shock – Level 4
Vampiric Rage – Level 4
Serenade of Eva – Level 13
Wild Magic – Level 2
Advance Block – Level 3
Holy Resistance – Level 3
Unholy Resistance – Level 3
Clarity – Level 3
Bless the Blood – Level 7
Stigma of Shilen – Level 4

(Source: http://lineage2.gametsg.com/index.ph...eid=9156#board)

I don't know what to say... but even the forums there is saying NC is digging their own grave.
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Old 05-26-2009, 01:56 AM   #2
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Default Re: Gracia Final - Healer skills

That is not the complete list, there was a fix for the Korean PTS a few days ago which put in some skills they initially forgot:

EE: resist wind
SE: might of heaven, vitality, trance, major heal, turn undead
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That is not the complete list, there was a fix for the Korean PTS a few days ago which put in some skills they initially forgot:

EE: resist wind
SE: might of heaven, vitality, trance, major heal, turn undead
SE can now lear turn undead? o.0
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Lol.

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Yup i pray they pull this out and say changed our minds :P
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the real questions are

1. do you get the items needed to "link" skills from se/ee/bish subclass' 3rd prof quest?

2.if yes, can you use these items on your other subclass?

3. if yes, is there limit on number of skills linked?

4. when you remove the skill link for 10 mil adena, do you get the item back or you also need the item to remove?
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Old 05-26-2009, 03:12 AM   #7
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the real questions are

1. do you get the items needed to "link" skills from se/ee/bish subclass' 3rd prof quest?

2.if yes, can you use these items on your other subclass?

3. if yes, is there limit on number of skills linked?

4. when you remove the skill link for 10 mil adena, do you get the item back or you also need the item to remove?
1) I read that you get the 'box' after completion of 3rd change class quest. I believe it's about the ee/se/bish class itself (doesn't matter whether it's main or subclass).

2) If you have both ee/se/bish main+subs, I think you might be able to use that box between them but I won't say it's confirmed.

3) EE/Bish learns 2 skills from list and SE learns 4 skills from list.

4) You do get the item back after removing the skill for 10mil adena.

ps. The title should be gracia plus, not final >.< it's fixed now lol
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the real questions are

1. do you get the items needed to "link" skills from se/ee/bish subclass' 3rd prof quest?

2.if yes, can you use these items on your other subclass?

3. if yes, is there limit on number of skills linked?

4. when you remove the skill link for 10 mil adena, do you get the item back or you also need the item to remove?
From the initial translations:

1. you get the item when your ee/bish/se finishes his 3rd class quest, no matter if it is a main or sub

2. you can only get these linked skills on the class which got the item, so if you have, say, a 78 cardinal main and a 74 se sub, you get skills for the cardinal and when the se sub dings 76 and does the 3rd class change, the se gets linked skills of its own, independantly from the cardinal main. Just think of the linked skills as extra skills which pop up on that classes skill list. The question "can you use the item on other (sub)classes" does not really make sense anyway, EVERY healer class will get the item at 76 and can only use it from 76 and higher, so if you have a bish main and a ee/se sub, the subclass would get the item anyway at 76, too. Just for further clarification, in case this is not 100% clear: if you e.g. have a cardinal, you do not NEED a EE/SE subclass to "link skills" from. You can just walk to the npc and learn ee/se skills even if you do NOT have a ee/se subclass.

3. 2 skills each for ee and bishop, 4 for se. It does not matter if it is sub or main, the skills only work for that one class and are independant from other subclasses

4. yes you get the item back, so you can change skills as often as you want for 10m each time. Seems to work like the subclass skills which you also can remove and re-learn as often as you want for 10m each time.
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se learning holy weapon is so many lvls of fail it's not even funny
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se learning holy weapon is so many lvls of fail it's not even funny
Well, they have it already now (inquisitor). Would have made more sense to give them dark weapon and surrender to unholy right from the start, but I guess they needed some skills to give to their beloved kamael race (still don't understand why they put in holy weapon in prelude and waited with dark weapon until kamael were introduced).
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now that i think about it... Aion is available for pre-order and you get a bag o' goodies...

this has to be a conspiracy. <-- i've always wanted to say that.
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(still don't understand why they put in holy weapon in prelude and waited with dark weapon until kamael were introduced).
Were there angel type mobs in Prelude?
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At least there are no the most uber buffs,like berz,haste etc.
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So, ok I'm confuzzled. Do you get the box with linked skills even if you don't have a healer sub? Or do you need a healer sub and what level does the sub have to be to get the linked skills options?
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So, ok I'm confuzzled. Do you get the box with linked skills even if you don't have a healer sub? Or do you need a healer sub and what level does the sub have to be to get the linked skills options?

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SUB OR MAIN CLASS.

WHEN YOU HAVE A HEALER AND IT FINISHES 3rd CLASS QUEST AT 76+ IT AUTOMATICALLY RECEIVES THE BOX.

I HOPE THIS HELPS YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS REPEATED SEVERAL TIMES..............
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At least there are no the most uber buffs,like berz,haste etc.
Which are PP skills, ie enchanter skills, not healer.


I'm just missing why Bishops give almost all their heals (exception: Balance Life wow!), and EEs keep their **** PR!
Cardies only get buffs. Whatever. Do I look like a buffer? ><'


And of course, Recharge is a trap!
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IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SUB OR MAIN CLASS.

WHEN YOU HAVE A HEALER AND IT FINISHES 3rd CLASS QUEST AT 76+ IT AUTOMATICALLY RECEIVES THE BOX.

I HOPE THIS HELPS YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS REPEATED SEVERAL TIMES..............
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Which are PP skills, ie enchanter skills, not healer.
Wall, Bishops have zerk...

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I'm just missing why Bishops give almost all their heals (exception: Balance Life wow!),
Bishop gives just 2 or 4 skills.

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and EEs keep their **** PR!
Nope. SEs can learn it now.

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Cardies only get buffs.
I wouldn't call Stigma "buffs".
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Balance Life is not available because it is a third class skill, and the linkable skills are all 2nd class skills.

As a fellow clannie of mine reminded me, getting recharge would be a kind of useless skill. Let's say that it doesn't prevent us from getting recharged. It still eats up mana to cast, and our mana has to be reserved for healing.

And I am still wondering if these can be oe'ed. That would make a huge difference in which skills I would consider taking.

In the parties that I have been in, it sure would be nice if the EE had purify. But so far I haven't heard any EE interested in that
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I would be very interested in Purify if it wouldn't be just 2 slots
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