Make mechanic golem unerasable plz.

bel · 07-22-2009, 03:52 AM

to benefit dwarfs at least at some point, plz. make our golem unerasable.
Cause it's a onstruct....not a summoning leaving creature....

Olisiponense · 07-22-2009, 04:23 AM

+1 on bel's sugestion.

I agree that a mechanic golem shouldn't be put at the same level of "common" magic summons like cats or unicorns, and this way the Erase spell shouldn't work on them.
One - the golem - is an object build by the hands of a dwarf; the others are entities summoned by their masters.

Flint · 07-22-2009, 05:32 AM

+1 for dwarf revenge! They really need some love!

LordRiot · 07-22-2009, 05:40 AM

Pointless. Erase is essentially a PvP mechanic, one of the few that is consistent and actually works. The land rate of erase on a similar level toon/summon is comparatively well balanced.
Unlike the fact that a Bounty Hunter doesn't even get one. Nor do they get 10 minute buffs that stack with normal buffs... This is beside the point I guess, more of a vent but yeah.

bel · 07-22-2009, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LordRiot

Pointless. Erase is essentially a PvP mechanic, one of the few that is consistent and actually works. The land rate of erase on a similar level toon/summon is comparatively well balanced.
Unlike the fact that a Bounty Hunter doesn't even get one. Nor do they get 10 minute buffs that stack with normal buffs... This is beside the point I guess, more of a vent but yeah.

they didn't get the golem because they chose to be spoilers! It's like complaining that Gladiators don't have shield stun! Those are 2 different professions.

My +16 golem is erased with +1 erase constantly.

LordRiot · 07-22-2009, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bel

they didn't get the golem because they chose to be spoilers! It's like complaining that Gladiators don't have shield stun! Those are 2 different professions.

My +16 golem is erased with +1 erase constantly.

So being a Bounty Hunter means they shouldn't get anything good then? So by your logic, being a WS means you shouldn't complain about getting your lol-summon erased by some lowbie EE or whatever.

bel · 07-22-2009, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LordRiot

So being a Bounty Hunter means they shouldn't get anything good then? So by your logic, being a WS means you shouldn't complain about getting your lol-summon erased by some lowbie EE or whatever.

am not complaining, I'm suggsting to make it work as it obviously should.
Golem - is not a "pet". Mechanical creature.

WamWamWuzzle · 07-22-2009, 07:11 AM

In the interest of fairness, Mechanic golems should be able to be erased. They are extra pvp tools and can be summoned anywhere in the game. Erase should have a higher failure rate depending on the level of the summon. On a related note, no dwarven siege item should be affected by erase.

shad0wlf · 07-22-2009, 09:46 AM

Yes of course, right after Bounty Hunters get a pack Strider capable of combat and cannot be erased. Your left leg Woonalow. <3

populus · 07-22-2009, 10:09 AM

i couldn't erase summons even with the +12 shadow arcana mace from event... all they needed was mental shield and it went from a 50% chance to a 10% chance

FidgitTheClown · 07-22-2009, 03:23 PM

by this logic, would Necromancer summons also not be erasable?
i mean they are reanimated corpses, which require corpses to be reanimated.

you can't erase normal zombies, why should you be able to erase a necromancers zombie?

Nukk · 07-22-2009, 10:49 PM

Because it doesn't need to make any sense in order to be a useful PvP mechanic.

bel · 07-23-2009, 12:05 AM

dorfs are ignored...as usuall.... :/

mcBuff · 07-23-2009, 12:33 AM

Erase hardly ever lands at end game and mental shield makes it even more ******ed. Also tested that +'ing up Erase doesn't effect land rate.

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Originally Posted by populus

i couldn't erase summons even with the +12 shadow arcana mace from event... all they needed was mental shield and it went from a 50% chance to a 10% chance

It's not even close to 10% chance to erase a 79+ summon with mental shield on lol.

bel · 07-23-2009, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mcBuff

Erase hardly ever lands at end game and mental shield makes it even more ******ed. Also tested that +'ing up Erase doesn't effect land rate.

It's not even close to 10% chance to erase a 79+ summon with mental shield on lol.

Summon, yeah, not lool summon (aka golem)

Jyrki · 07-23-2009, 02:19 AM

LF LeChat to Comment.

bel · 07-23-2009, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jyrki

LF LeChat to Comment.

what's that?

Nanashi_Naomhan · 07-23-2009, 04:47 AM

already suggested this jiggie but since i know you want dorfs boosted as much as i do you can find my opinions on the matter here http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=203723

bel · 07-23-2009, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nanashi_Naomhan

already suggested this jiggie but since i know you want dorfs boosted as much as i do you can find my opinions on the matter here http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=203723

+1 for dorfs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TatsumasaTeon · 07-23-2009, 06:48 AM

To go on like that...

A Unicore that is made out of Water, only dies to a Fire Nuke and dont care about Melee attacks since its Water.

A Cat can only be killed by a Dog.

The Shadows die when they enter the Olympiad and it isnt bright Day, but night.

07-22-2009, 03:52 AM	#1
bel Beleth's Slave Join Date: May 2006 Location: Far beyond Posts: 3,810	Make mechanic golem unerasable plz. to benefit dwarfs at least at some point, plz. make our golem unerasable. Cause it's a onstruct....not a summoning leaving creature.... __________________ You stay ready - you never have to get ready! No guts, no glory!

07-22-2009, 04:23 AM	#2
Olisiponense Thunder Wyrm Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 259	Re: Make mechanic golem unerasable plz. +1 on bel's sugestion. I agree that a mechanic golem shouldn't be put at the same level of "common" magic summons like cats or unicorns, and this way the Erase spell shouldn't work on them. One - the golem - is an object build by the hands of a dwarf; the others are entities summoned by their masters.

07-22-2009, 05:32 AM	#3
Flint Dark Knight Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 182	Re: Make mechanic golem unerasable plz. +1 for dwarf revenge! They really need some love!

07-22-2009, 05:40 AM	#4
LordRiot Imperial Warlord Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,066	Re: Make mechanic golem unerasable plz. Pointless. Erase is essentially a PvP mechanic, one of the few that is consistent and actually works. The land rate of erase on a similar level toon/summon is comparatively well balanced. Unlike the fact that a Bounty Hunter doesn't even get one. Nor do they get 10 minute buffs that stack with normal buffs... This is beside the point I guess, more of a vent but yeah.

07-22-2009, 07:11 AM	#8
WamWamWuzzle Purgatory Shadow Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mount Myoboku Posts: 633	Re: Make mechanic golem unerasable plz. In the interest of fairness, Mechanic golems should be able to be erased. They are extra pvp tools and can be summoned anywhere in the game. Erase should have a higher failure rate depending on the level of the summon. On a related note, no dwarven siege item should be affected by erase.

07-22-2009, 09:46 AM	#9
shad0wlf Purgatory Shadow Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 633	Re: Make mechanic golem unerasable plz. Yes of course, right after Bounty Hunters get a pack Strider capable of combat and cannot be erased. Your left leg Woonalow. <3 __________________ I am Evil and Good. 80 Hell Knight/78 Adv./77Sagi./61 Warlord. "I'm afraid that we all make mistakes. One of the things that defines our character is how we handle mistakes. If we lie about having made a mistake, then it can't be corrected and it festers." - Richard Rahl

07-22-2009, 10:09 AM	#10
populus Antharas Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pytan Room :P Posts: 4,526	Re: Make mechanic golem unerasable plz. i couldn't erase summons even with the +12 shadow arcana mace from event... all they needed was mental shield and it went from a 50% chance to a 10% chance __________________ 91 SIGEL KNIGHT / 84 MYSTIC MUSE ++ 87 ISS ENCHANTER (Hierophant) / 72 GLADIATOR 86 YUL ARCHER (Wind Rider) / 66 SPELL SINGER ++ 83 SWORD MUSE \| 78 SHILLIEN SAINT / 77 DESTROYER

07-22-2009, 03:23 PM	#11
FidgitTheClown Zaken Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,444	Re: Make mechanic golem unerasable plz. by this logic, would Necromancer summons also not be erasable? i mean they are reanimated corpses, which require corpses to be reanimated. you can't erase normal zombies, why should you be able to erase a necromancers zombie?

07-22-2009, 10:49 PM	#12
Nukk Thunder Wyrm Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 327	Re: Make mechanic golem unerasable plz. Because it doesn't need to make any sense in order to be a useful PvP mechanic. __________________ I'm everyone's fanboi!

07-23-2009, 12:05 AM	#13
bel Beleth's Slave Join Date: May 2006 Location: Far beyond Posts: 3,810	Re: Make mechanic golem unerasable plz. dorfs are ignored...as usuall.... :/ __________________ You stay ready - you never have to get ready! No guts, no glory!

07-23-2009, 02:19 AM	#16
Jyrki Baylor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, Arizona. Posts: 7,148	Re: Make mechanic golem unerasable plz. LF LeChat to Comment. __________________ Jyrki - LvL 86 Healer w/Recharge (lol?) / 79 Arcana Lord / 79 Sagittarius (Changed) / 77 Storm Screamer (Deleted) / 75 Gladiator (Deleted) / 78 Doom Cryer / 76 Phoenix Knight - [Nova] Was fun while it lasted!

07-23-2009, 04:47 AM	#18
Nanashi_Naomhan Frintezza Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: gert by sea Posts: 14,561	Re: Make mechanic golem unerasable plz. already suggested this jiggie but since i know you want dorfs boosted as much as i do you can find my opinions on the matter here http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=203723 __________________ Read before posting. 6x human buffer. 7 lvls to POF!!!!

07-23-2009, 06:48 AM	#20
TatsumasaTeon Dark Knight Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 195	Re: Make mechanic golem unerasable plz. To go on like that... A Unicore that is made out of Water, only dies to a Fire Nuke and dont care about Melee attacks since its Water. A Cat can only be killed by a Dog. The Shadows die when they enter the Olympiad and it isnt bright Day, but night.

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