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Old 12-24-2011, 12:53 AM   #1
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Default High end pc can't run L2 without lag? really?

I'm new to lineage 2, came around after it hit free to play. My computer is pretty high end. My specs are,

intel i5 2.8Ghz quad core
8gb DDR3 ram
Geforce 450 GTS 1gb GDDR5 overclocked
Windows 7 home.

I keep lagging in L2 anytime I'm around water(and elsewhere), even on the lowest settings and I refuse to play it on anything but High, but I can't even play due to the massive lag. Is there anyway to fix this? I can play any other game just fine.
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Old 12-24-2011, 01:00 AM   #2
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I'm new to lineage 2, came around after it hit free to play. My computer is pretty high end. My specs are,

intel i5 2.8Ghz quad core
8gb DDR3 ram
Geforce 450 GTS 1gb GDDR5 overclocked
Windows 7 home.

I keep lagging in L2 anytime I'm around water(and elsewhere), even on the lowest settings and I refuse to play it on anything but High, but I can't even play due to the massive lag. Is there anyway to fix this? I can play any other game just fine.
Turn some settings down lol. Your specs isn't invincibile. i5-2500k @ 4.5GHz is probably the only who can play this game maxed
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Old 12-24-2011, 01:03 AM   #3
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Default Re: High end pc can't run L2 without lag? really?

Seriously a game this old need specs like that? Sounds like someone doesn't know how to optimize a game correctly. There's no way L2 should require that if done correctly when I can run Final Fantasy XIV on max really well and that wasn't even optimized correctly.

and as I said..it lags on low detail as well <.<
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Old 12-24-2011, 01:05 AM   #4
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Seriously a game this old need specs like that? Sounds like someone doesn't know how to optimize a game correctly. There's no way L2 should require that when I can run Final Fantasy XIV on max really well and that wasn't even optimized correctly.

and as I said..it lags on low detail as well <.<
It uses unreal engine 2 which isn't as optimized as the newer engines. Just turn down reflections and shadows though and you can max everything else. Turn down viewing distance too...
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Old 12-24-2011, 01:12 AM   #5
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Default Re: High end pc can't run L2 without lag? really?

I max graphics out with

Clean instal windows 7
AMD Phenom 720 BE - factory clocked
IceQ 4+ t 4870 1GB- factory clocked
4gb ddr3 1333 ram
SSD - 380mb/s + read speed
1920x1080 on 22" LCD

Doesn't lag much at all, even in town with player congestion. This SSD has made a huge difference

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Old 12-24-2011, 01:34 AM   #6
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Default Re: High end pc can't run L2 without lag? really?

I run mine on laptops, can run at last 2 or 3 clients w/o much lag

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 460 @ 2.53GHz
Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
Graphics Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD
Gaming graphics 1755 MB Total available graphics memory
Primary hard disk 24GB Free (121GB Total)
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Display adapter type Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD
Total available graphics memory 1755 MB
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Dedicated system memory 0 MB
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Old 12-24-2011, 01:51 AM   #7
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Default Re: High end pc can't run L2 without lag? really?

turn down water/shadows and maybe reflections too, those settings are very high resource demanding if you turn them on (pretty old unreal engine). without those, this game actually run smooth even on lower specs and multiple windows. btw, your pc isnt high end but it should run this game w/o problems.
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Old 12-24-2011, 03:37 AM   #8
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Were talking about a game that used to have the Intel badge "Plays best on Pentium 4". The unreal engine was made before quad cores, advanced hyper threading, new instruction sets and architecture that didn't exist at the time.

The best thing you can do is install L2 on a SSD. Honestly, when you toss it on a nice SSD it's like playing an entirely new game. If you check HDD loads while running L2 you'll see how much **** actually has to load from the hardrive.
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Old 12-24-2011, 06:52 AM   #9
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turn down water/shadows and maybe reflections too, those settings are very high resource demanding
At least turn off shadows indeed. They cut my fps down more than half and imo they're ugly in L2. :l And they're only "cast" by the sun.
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Old 12-24-2011, 07:47 AM   #10
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Default Re: High end pc can't run L2 without lag? really?

apparently SSD storage is now required to play it without 1 minute lags when moving around.

or you may try 16 gig RAM, may also work once it caches the whole game
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Old 12-24-2011, 07:50 AM   #11
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in what universe is a 450 "high end"? It's a freakin entry level gaming card :S

Lineage 2 needs super fast hard drive(s) ... if you don't have them you will suffer. SSD is optimum, raided fast mech drives are a workable solution, but if you go with your 2gb 7.2k fragmented HD you 'll stutter in game.
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Old 12-24-2011, 08:30 AM   #12
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Default Re: High end pc can't run L2 without lag? really?

turn off the programs like utorent" and i also turned of vertical sync from control panel

and i runing the game with not that good PC also not lagging exept the towns

AMD Athlon 5000+
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Old 12-24-2011, 09:19 AM   #13
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Default Re: High end pc can't run L2 without lag? really?

A silly question I have, since its not mentioned. Are you running 32 bit Windows 7, or 64 bit?

Most of the lag in L2 is caused by 2 things. The speed of your HDD, and the distance you are from Texas. Which part of the world are you living in? As your lag may be network related.
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apparently SSD storage is now required to play it without 1 minute lags when moving around.

or you may try 16 gig RAM, may also work once it caches the whole game
Nope, 16Gb RAM won't help - the game will crash when it hits 2Gb memory in use. This is because it doesn't tell Windows that it is capable of using more than 2Gb, so Windows restricts it to no more than 2Gb. When it then tries to use more...it fails and dies.

SSD does help though.
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Default Re: High end pc can't run L2 without lag? really?

i7@3.6GHZ, 8 cores, 16 ram, ssd as system drive +L2 in it, 6970 ATI graphics (2 GB) here,
and it still crashes, lags or even freezes for long periods of time.

And I never use shadows, just ground details...
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Old 12-24-2011, 10:36 AM   #16
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Default Re: High end pc can't run L2 without lag? really?

Disable Improved Shaders

Disable Shadows

Set npc range to Narrow/Average
Set Terrain range to Narrow/Average

Potentially Launch the game in 4gb mode...

An SSD will make a world of difference for stutters/lag.. because the game is always ALWAYS flushing and reloading textures and data ... every new character that pops into range loads and unload... and l2 also does full purges occasionally.

Crashes I've experienced was due to lineage II biting the 32bit limited 2gb cap. There is a work around for that... walkthrough might be found on rochand...
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Default Re: High end pc can't run L2 without lag? really?

whats the best class to take advantage of a SSD? Healer?
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Old 12-25-2011, 02:18 AM   #18
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every class.

obviously for a healer to be aware of their surroundings is always best... i don't know how many times i've been in a party with a healer that had a slow machine, resulting in deaths because they didn't see anyone even show up and kill anyone.. and their hotkeys aren't firing due to loading ****.
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Default Re: High end pc can't run L2 without lag? really?

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in what universe is a 450 "high end"? It's a freakin entry level gaming card :S

Lineage 2 needs super fast hard drive(s) ... if you don't have them you will suffer. SSD is optimum, raided fast mech drives are a workable solution, but if you go with your 2gb 7.2k fragmented HD you 'll stutter in game.
In 2004 that card would seem like it came light years from the future. I got news for you bro, Lineage 2 was made in 2004 not in modern times. There is no excuse why it runs so poorly. In theory with today's hardware the game should be running at a constant 60fps. However the game doesn't scale at all with gpus, upgrading from a modern day entry gpu to a high end one won't make a difference.

The only thing that helps is a ssd and a faster cpu, which is funny since the game is entirely single threaded.
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Indeed, it relies heavily on single instance cpu performance (raw brute cpu power)than on all nice and neat features cpus went through since 2004. My guess is overclocked p4 will give you better results compared to multithread multicore hyperthread ultrawhatever new cpu just because of frequency.
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