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Old 07-02-2013, 01:38 PM   #1
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Adventurers,

As we head into the 3rd weekend of the Dimensional Castle Siege we wanted to take a moment and bring you some awesome highlights of the first two sieges.

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First Dimensional Castle Siege - June 22nd

The first Dimensional Castle Siege held its share of surprises, I don't believe anyone saw coming. Most notably the alliance between the Renovatio (Nova) and SilentHorrors clans, who seemingly came to a non-aggression agreement prior to the siege, allowing them to focus on other clans and take the top two castles, Rune and Aden for themselves.

Not to be outdone on the maiden siege, MAX and Genocide clans conquered the hard-fought castles, Goddard and Giran respectively to complete the victors list of the first ever Dimensional Castle Siege.

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This unfortunately left Clans from Bartz and Shilen server without a dimensional castle to call their own on the first siege.


The Second Dimensional Siege - June 29th

Bartz clans came back with a fury for the second Dimensional Castle Siege. Having been denied a castle the previous week, Stronghold and Enigma from Bartz claimed Goddard and Giran respectively. Seeing as Goddard and Giran have been the heavily contended castles so far, will Stronghold and Enigma be able to hold on to them?

Renovatio and SilentHorrors continue their non-aggression agreement with each other and held their castles, Aden and Rune. Seeing as the castles, Aden and Rune give more rewards than Goddard and Giran, will we see new alliances forged? Will other clans ban together to remove Renovatio and SilentHorrors from their thrones?

Will we see clans merge into bigger, stronger clans? The Dimensional Castle Siege allows each participating clan to bring 200 of its strongest members and so far we've seen clans bring less than their full complement.

If you'd like to learn about the Dimensional Castle Siege rewards or how to participate, please click here for more information.

Beyond that, we also want to hear your feedback and suggestions on how to improve the Dimensional Castle Siege. Please keep your feedback constructive.

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Old 07-02-2013, 08:02 PM   #2
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The Second Dimensional Siege - June 29th

Bartz clans came back with a fury for the second Dimensional Castle Siege. Having been denied a castle the previous week, Stronghold and Enigma from Bartz claimed Goddard and Giran respectively. Seeing as Goddard and Giran have been the heavily contended castles so far, will Stronghold and Enigma be able to hold on to them?

Renovatio and SilentHorrors continue their non-aggression agreement with each other and held their castles, Aden and Rune. Seeing as the castles, Aden and Rune give more rewards than Goddard and Giran, will we see new alliances forged? Will other clans ban together to remove Renovatio and SilentHorrors from their thrones?

Will we see clans merge into bigger, stronger clans? The Dimensional Castle Siege allows each participating clan to bring 200 of its strongest members and so far we've seen clans bring less than their full complement.

If you'd like to learn about the Dimensional Castle Siege rewards or how to participate, please click here for more information.

Beyond that, we also want to hear your feedback and suggestions on how to improve the Dimensional Castle Siege. Please keep your feedback constructive.
Giran and Goddard were NOT defended at all by its owners

Its reward is not worth it at all.

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1st ncsoft take off 5 of the 9 castles, okay we are less servers, 10 clans figthing for 4 castles, looks okay, it will be fun.

Then, info page about dim gets updated and Goddard and Giran rewards were edited and dont give any usefull reward at all, so the big reward for the "battle of supremacy" is a box with a chance to get an Elcyumm. Thats it, the worst part is that you didnt even announced this before.

So the new content ultimate pvp endgame reward now is a "Black Anvil Guild's Dimensional Chest." where you maybe with some korean chance get an item that cost 150kk. This looks totally like an insult for for the clans and the player base contesting Giran and Goddard.

I would like to know the reasons behind this nonsense decision, does the people in charge of making this decisions even know the game? If you only wanted to give the "good" rewards to rune and aden, why wouldnt you just keep those 2 castles instead of adding 2 useless meaningless-rewards castles extra?

Either you take off giran and goddard as asediable castles and force all the 10 clans go for only aden/rune, or make the same reward for every one of the 4 castles, if this isnt fixed, Dimensional Castle Sieges will most probally be just death in 2 or 3 weeks because, there is no point for clans from shillen, bartz and magmeld to ever try to conquer Aden or Rune. Simple as that.
This post was made before the 2nd sieges, during the sieges, as I said, magmelds clans who were owners, didnt show up, shillen clans didnt show up, and bartz clans showed up because chronos "helped" them.

The 2nd clan from Naia, didnt show up, this means that of 10 clans that should have participated, only 4 participated, juji is not hard to notice that the sieges rewards are wrong.

Next week will be even worse, since will be only the 4 clan owners farming fame w.o any attackers.

If you dont believe me, go check the "attackers" list of clans registered on your last siege, is this really how you want your best feature to be?

Also merging clan? Juji do you understand that merging clans from same server means pretty much KILL the pvp/political situation entirely on the server? The 2 clans that suppose to represent each server are also the 2 best clans from those servers and is normal that they are in war with eachother fighting for stuff on their servers.

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Old 07-02-2013, 08:28 PM   #4
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Dimensional sieges: the ultimate way to promote server drama and QQing to a whole new level.
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:39 PM   #5
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reward is ok for ALL castle , and its ok too to have only 4 castle to be taken. why? 10 clan and 9 castle its just lol... ,

in korea where they have a lot server have all 9 castle , we have 10 clan and 9 castle its just lol...

about rewards , clan want TOP reward? fight for it. every week , for full 2h , win or lose fight... u dont want to fight for top reward? go for goddard/giran , it help a lot for recruit even from other server . for who dont even come , just show how they care for top reward , or u would like to have top reward on giran/goddard too? ... cmon...

"l2" want to see pvp at rune/aden , they want to see MASS pvp . so for me reward and castle are ok , who arent ok are who have castle on live server.

btw vali on 2nd dim siege SH and nova did ( for fun) pvp at rune and at aden . prolly u missed it , and about giran i saw genocide was there , and if nova didnt wanted to get them out of castle im sure genocide was able to defend it ( whoever was there defending)
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Old 07-03-2013, 02:43 AM   #6
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Would it be possible to make dimensional siege with the koreans even though they are 1 update ahead .. ? ^^
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Would it be possible to make dimensional siege with the koreans even though they are 1 update ahead .. ? ^^
Obviously not, and even if it was nobody here would want that. One top party from Warsmith/Genesis/LoK would destroy Nova/SH/DH/Geno or any other clan in a matter of seconds.
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don't think so cause Koreans dont use 3rd party soft for pvp so they will find out the hard way how much that changes things if they would/could show up..

on the other hand sure let them come, maybe then Koreans understand the reality of western life better..
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Sure scripts help a lot but when you got a party with +10 dark eternal sets, +16 dark amaranthine weapons and full set of blessed epics (including lindvior earring) you can wipe top parties of chronos/naia like they are elpies.
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Sure scripts help a lot but when you got a party with +10 dark eternal sets, +16 dark amaranthine weapons and full set of blessed epics (including lindvior earring) you can wipe top parties of chronos/naia like they are elpies.
I saw picture of an archer with +23 Blessed bloody Bow Thats the most sick thing i saw around.
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NCwest should ask a Ninja Patch right away from Korea to change the Rewards. So it will be also more interesting and worth to fight at Minor Castles like Giran & Goddard.

Dimensional Siege - Epeisodion (every 14 days)

Reward: Major Castles (Aden, Rune)
Stage 1: Elcyum x 10
Stage 2: Eternal Enhancement Stone - PVP x 10
Stage 3: Eternal Enhancement Stone - PVP x 20 & Amaranthine Enhancement Stone - PVP x 1
Stage 4: Amaranthine Enhancement Stone - PVP x 2
Stage 5: Amaranthine Enhancement Stone - PVP x 3

Reward: Minor Castles (Giran, Goddard +others)
Stage 1: Elcyum x 5
Stage 2: Eternal Enhancement Stone - PVP x 5
Stage 3: Eternal Enhancement Stone - PVP x 10
Stage 4: Eternal Enhancement Stone - PVP x 20 (I Suggest to add here: Amaranthine Enhancement Stone - PVP x 1)
Stage 5: none (I Suggest to add here: Amaranthine Enhancement Stone - PVP x 2)

Reward for taking Aden & Rune is the abillity to take Rewards twice as fast.

Right now with the current System Minor Castles will never have any Access to Eternal/Amaranthine Enhancement Stones PvP. With the current System if only Aden and Rune can take them. It will make the Clans owning them even more powerfull in the near future. This also means the gap between them and any other Clans not owning Aden nor Rune will increase even more. This since the others will never have the abillity & supplies to keep up with these two Clans PvP gear wise. They will never be booted out of Rune and Aden ever, if they are the only ones who got access to put PvP on all there weapons/armors fast first.

There is no competition in the Reward System right now. The strongest get stronger and the poorest will never keep up and remain at the same level. The gap only increases more. In order to make PvP more interesting the poorest need to get access to certain supplies aswell. This in order for them to be able to gear themselves up too and stand a chance to fight Clans who are already geared up very good. If this will not change. Then I am afraid Mass PvP in the Dimensional Siege in USwest is only doomed to fail.

Mass PvP will only happen if newly started players and the slowely poorest players/clans will be able to keep up with the strongest in a slightly slower way ofcourse. Dimensional Siege has been build to promote Mass PvP. Like I said Aden and Rune get stronger when the rest will remain running around with same none-PvP Gear for months later to come.

This is just a thought I had. Hypothesis. Try to find the problem first then the solution. You need to make it eassier more interesting/worthwhile not harder and impossible. Do your math.

Another thought I had. Since Enchant Weapon of Destruction was introduced for over a year. Many Players were able to make top-grade weapons +15 or even more. Since they denied the Players the access of these Scrolls in this new update. The new Players or even the Players who are still trying to hit 99 will never have the chance or abillity to get these Scrolls and Gear up the way the older group of players did. Unable to beat Players with these Weapons. Now they removed the Scrolls from Hero Boxes and yet others can not compete since it is nearly impossible to make weapons +15 with normal echants. Let alone to craft weapons alot to try on them.

Think about it ...

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Old 07-03-2013, 08:24 AM   #12
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NO I am NOT promoting FREE give aways of certain items. (Korean Random Farm Style)

I am just asking to find a better way to promote Mass PvP again. At the moment it is not working at all. It is even working the other way around. Players telling other Players that it is not even worth to go to the Dimensional Siege. (Reward wise and Gear wise).

Mass PvP can only be promoted if all Players got access to certain items untill a certain level/degree. It needs to be more Player friendly. At the moment it is not nearly at all.

I do not even know how to explain NCsoft Employees our problems who never saw the in-game world themselves and how things really work ... sad story

Anyway Good Luck with your Dimensional Siege Evaluation NCsoft!

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Instead of banning most of those cheaters and program users, you record them and show them to the public.

Once again good job NC.
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They are promoting mass pvp already.

Why all clans are not at the 2 castles with best rewards fighting is beyond reason.

Stop crying, wipe the tears and go attack Aden/Rune.

If you want good rewards that is.

If you are content with consolation prices, do whatever.
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Another Feedback Topic from the last 14 days.

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They are promoting mass pvp already.
So this is why less and less Players and Clans are showing up for the Dimensional Siege? Maybe they are Promoting Mass PvP. I do not know if you noticed, but in the end the Reward System (behind) to keep Players comming back to play is failing big time.

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Why all clans are not at the 2 castles with best rewards fighting is beyond reason.
Yup you are right about this one. The other 6+ Clans together should help eachother and take Aden/Rune Castle. So they can fight eachother later about who can get 1 PvP weapon stone every month. GL on that I would say.

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Stop crying, wipe the tears and go attack Aden/Rune.
Yup let's attack and get 2-shotted by some Players with +15 Dark Amaranthine Weapons and 6+ Dark Eternal Gear. NP

People came, they saw and they failed to conquer. Surely they will not try again for these simple reasons. All Top Parties left Shillen/Bartz/Magmeld to Cronos/Naia with nearly all Top Gear. SO these three Servers are almost dried out of good gear. Everything is concentrated on Cronos. No Balance to even start a fair fight in crappy gear.

I am not Crying at all. I am just explaining how the majority of the Players feel about this. Most of them do not even bother to login and post their Feedback since NCsoft does not even know how to bugfix problems within 30 days. These Players already got the feeling they are talking against a wall. NCsoft answers are always the same lately. It will be fixed as soon as possible. You hear from us as soon as possible.

DIM SIEGE: No Gear Balance + No Reward Balance = R.I.P Mass PvP

This will be my last reply. Time for others to make a simple feedback too.

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So...

Gear up.

Nut up.

Bring the fight.

Sitting on your ***** crying about ur server sucking doesnt seem to be helping much.

Stop posting propaganda for your enemies. Rally the troops.
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Random pve nonfactor giving advices about pvp.
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lol. ty for the attention Fulgrim.

Which pvp factor are you again?

I'm also not giving advice about pvp. But someone was failing hardcore at propaganda, and seemed fairly oblivious to it.

But by all means, tell him how to win the pvp, since you excel at it.
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This POV > Juji POV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYp-KpNCMSA


For next castle siege try create a ninja protocol change patch and disable more functions in the know 3rd party tools used in last dim siege.
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