Any Clan tips

[Leventh]

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The best way to get sp for your clan is to buy NO SKILLS from level 25/24 until level 40, aside from a few choice skills. Mages, contrary to commmon beleife, have the easiest time getting a level 3 clan. The only skills they ever need to buy from level 20-40 are flamestrike and poison cloud. By the time they reach level 40, after leveling wiht just these skills, a mage should have enoygh sp for both a level 3 clan, and every level 4 skill.

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for a growing player he/she needs his skills, it is very hard for a level 40 to kill mobs with only level 25 skills. spend sp to make sp, just stay away from thoes useless skills.

[z0phiel]

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Oh and to the person that said get a forum here's my sit. I either need to find a cheap(i'm a college student) decent host that supports Sql databasing then i could use some free forum enginess that i found (phpbb, obenbb) or if u know of any free boards that allow you to have a space on them for clan stuff (kinda like ezboards but not so complicated). let me know plz thx

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You can try what I use on my clansite, it's a CMS called e107, it has a built in forum and is fairly easy to set up, just need a MySQL database, comes with some presetup themes or you can dl and install others, great comunity if you need help, e107 .

[Deathinabox]

Thx a bunch i like it. (i dont think angelfire supports sql databasing does it?) ne way i made a forum for our clan on proboards.com i have to admit it is very nice (especially the free calender feature to post events)and i would recommend this to ne one else who's in the bind i am.

[Valeo]

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The other main disadvantage with VC that wasnt touched upon was it creates a rift in clans if not everyone uses it all the time.

If 75% of the clan uses it, they probably wont talk much in /clan. Thus making the other 25% feeling left out and more then likely they'll leave. (If you require it, thats diffrent I guess)

Its the same with alliances as well. If not everyone in a alliance uses it, it leaves those who dont feeling left out of the loop, since people who do use VC dont actually type a whole lot in the game.

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I dont know why you wouldn't use voice chat (aside from RP I guess but that's very rare). It's simply much more easier to use than typing, especially in the heat of battle when you do not have time to type out detailed strategies etc. Everyone can use voice chat, head over to Wal-Mart and buy a $2 microphone. It really isn't hard.

[Deathinabox]

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Everyone can use voice chat,

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Well that might be true for som ppl but for me i dont use it much cause for some strange reason it makes my game lag.......BADLY. to the point where i get lag deaths. So far it's only me and my friend so we use Skype. u think that might be the problem? if so what a very good non lag voice chat program to use (that's FREE!)

[Arodemus]

Sounds like you need to buy a stick of good memory. That would prolly solve your problem.

[Deathinabox]

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Sounds like you need to buy a stick of good memory.

[/ QUOTE ] Wait a min u mean more memory right there's no "bad" memory is there?

[Lord Chaos]

Then again, a mage would be pretty bad for castle siege.

[ItachiX]

Just join a high level clan and get lots of rare items and then you quit and make your clan? ^_^

[Talderin]

Um...let's just pretend you didn't say that. Honestly...some people have no sense of dignity or honour.

[Tinuvell]

Buy only the BARE MINIMUM for skills after hitting levle 20 until you reach level 40. At levle 40, you gain mostly new skills anyways, and in general, this gives you enough sp for both level 40 skills and a levle 3 clan.

[IceCold]

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Buy only the BARE MINIMUM for skills after hitting levle 20 until you reach level 40. At levle 40, you gain mostly new skills anyways, and in general, this gives you enough sp for both level 40 skills and a levle 3 clan.

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Simple, Don't start a clan till atleast lvl 40+
I started a clan at lvl 43, went right to clan lvl 2, then delvled to lvl 40 and got my lvl 43 skills, from there on i got clan lvl 3 sp, now I have my lvl 43 skills and am 50+ still saving for clan lvl 4,

your best bet for getting sp honestly is delvling, get all your skills first, then delvl. if you don't want to delvl you will always be behind on your skills.

[BeerDeadClam]

Ok... here's my plan. I'm a dwarf artisan, and I started a clan at level 28 (when I got level 2 craft). I chose a dwarf because for one I really like their money making skills, but as an artisan access to materials is critical. I had two key people that I hunted with regulary join my clan immediately, and they put all their materials in the clan wh. This is how we funded the monies for clan leveling. We are now level 2 trying to rush to level 3 clan. My character is now level 34, and most of the clan is level 29-36 so I'm right in the middle when it comes to hunting. By being a crafter... I have full brig set, elven jewelry, and a skull breaker (tarbar equiv). I can solo anything my level with no problems. Using clan materials I craft D grade gears for crystals, and sell other gears for money to buy soul ore to make DSS. I can spam DSS and level like it's nothing. SP for level 2 was tough, I'll admit it. But level 3 is coming very quickly becuase we now have over 10 REGULAR members, and we can take over a premo room in CT (Cruma Tower). You get a TON more SP when you hunt in parties than you get when soloing. I solo'd for all the SP for level 2 (150K SP), and it took over 2 weeks. I've been partying for just this past weekend with the clan and I have over 170k SP, and I haven't even been online as much as before. I figure to have the required 500k SP by the end of this weekend because we are hunting together. My biggest concern as a clan leader is leeches, and grievers. I've made it a point to friend several other clan leaders to form a solid black-list of such players. One thing you will find for certain is that level 30+ players are already in a clan, and won't budge until they hit level 40. We recruit level 25+, and require some sort of donation (money and/or materials). The hardest part is you will run into players that really don't need clan support (they're mysteriously wealthy). These players disrupt the clan, because legit first-character players struggle for money and gear all the way thru the game. However, your dwarf artisan should be able to work side by side with your scavengers to fund the clan with money/gear with very little effort. We have enough materials in the clan WH, that I should be able to supply every member with entry-level C grade gears from simple crafting. A final interest most potential clannies want is a Clan Hall. Clan Halls are very expensive to bid on... We bid 12Mil for a clan hall in Dion, and we didn't bid high enough lol. However, before I started a clan I was a member of a clan with a clan hall. They are definitely a huge advantage over other clans. But that's another storey.

[LordZehn]

Leaders:

Use your head, trust your instincts, and never break your morals.

I have the best group of guys I could possibly want in my clan. I recruited slowly so everyone got to know eachother very well. We are arguable one of the friendliest clans on Bartz.

Make your decisions in the best interest of the clan, not yourself.

That's all you really need to know.


EDIT: I don't agree with IceCold, if you're a higher lvl .. you can kill higher lvl mobs, getting you more SP. So why delevel? Its useless.

[Lord Chaos]

I agree, that is why we now made it a requirement. You must not always be on it though, but it does give a much higher degree of communication, feel and socialization.

Definetly worth it...most of our troublemakers were always the ones with limited or no teamspeak.

[cheef]

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if you don't want to delvl you will always be behind on your skills.

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why delevel? you don't gain sp any faster, all you do is make it take longer to get higher level (higher stats) and to actually unlock the next set of skills. The only reason to delevel is if you're getting paid to farm adena.

[AshaneFB]

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why delevel? you don't gain sp any faster, all you do is make it take longer to get higher level (higher stats) and to actually unlock the next set of skills. The only reason to delevel is if you're getting paid to farm adena.

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Thats incorrect actually, and if you think about it a minute you'll understand why.

Say as a hypothetical example you gain 100K from level 20-21. If you delevel to 20 again, and level to 21 again, you are granted that same 100K, in effect doubling the SP ratio you gained for one level.

So yes, in fact you do gain more SP then another level 21. (Plus more Adena obviously)

With that said, I woudnt delevel. Its possible to be clan level 3 by level 31-33ish, and level 4 by mid/low 40's depending upon what you train. Its not that bad.

[cheef]

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why delevel? you don't gain sp any faster, all you do is make it take longer to get higher level (higher stats) and to actually unlock the next set of skills. The only reason to delevel is if you're getting paid to farm adena.

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Thats incorrect actually, and if you think about it a minute you'll understand why.

Say as a hypothetical example you gain 100K from level 20-21. If you delevel to 20 again, and level to 21 again, you are granted that same 100K, in effect doubling the SP ratio you gained for one level.

So yes, in fact you do gain more SP then another level 21. (Plus more Adena obviously)

With that said, I woudnt delevel. Its possible to be clan level 3 by level 31-33ish, and level 4 by mid/low 40's depending upon what you train. Its not that bad.

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The key word here is "faster". By the time you level all the way back up to level 21. You could have made it almost to 22, and gained more SP along the way than you would have going from 20-21. The point of deleveling is to stay the same level as certain monsters that you can kill easily. As a monster's level get's lower compared to yours it will drop less adena and other goodies. It will spoil less too. Some low level monsters are just good to get money from. Deleveling otherwise, especially for the role of a clan leader, is pointless.

[AshaneFB]

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The key word here is "faster". By the time you level all the way back up to level 21. You could have made it almost to 22, and gained more SP along the way than you would have going from 20-21. The point of deleveling is to stay the same level as certain monsters that you can kill easily. As a monster's level get's lower compared to yours it will drop less adena and other goodies. It will spoil less too. Some low level monsters are just good to get money from. Deleveling otherwise, especially for the role of a clan leader, is pointless.

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Again, thats incorrect too.

The point of deleveling for a clan leader is to not only get SP, but to be able to train his skills with the additional SP as well.

You have a situation where a typical level 40 clan leader has virtually no skills if he is leading a level 3 clan, where as a similar level 40 clan leader who did delevel will be much better in skills and typically fight better, thus gaining SP faster.

Now, if your of the type that says screw the clan, I want my skills, this dosent apply to you and of course, deleveling does actually slow you down. Otherwise (if you dont get skills) it actually speeds up SP gain.

[cheef]

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The key word here is "faster". By the time you level all the way back up to level 21. You could have made it almost to 22, and gained more SP along the way than you would have going from 20-21. The point of deleveling is to stay the same level as certain monsters that you can kill easily. As a monster's level get's lower compared to yours it will drop less adena and other goodies. It will spoil less too. Some low level monsters are just good to get money from. Deleveling otherwise, especially for the role of a clan leader, is pointless.

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Again, thats incorrect too.

The point of deleveling for a clan leader is to not only get SP, but to be able to train his skills with the additional SP as well.

You have a situation where a typical level 40 clan leader has virtually no skills if he is leading a level 3 clan, where as a similar level 40 clan leader who did delevel will be much better in skills and typically fight better, thus gaining SP faster.

Now, if your of the type that says screw the clan, I want my skills, this dosent apply to you and of course, deleveling does actually slow you down. Otherwise (if you dont get skills) it actually speeds up SP gain.

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There is no extra SP. You will have more SP at your current level than most if you delevel, but you're not gaining SP any faster. When you die, you lose exp, but no sp. The formula seems pretty simple. Deleveling makes you waste the time you've spent to get exp. Now you have to spend that time again to regain your level, gaining about the SAME SP you would have gotten if you never deleveled.

That level 40 clan leader with all that SP would probably be a little closer to level 41 if he never deleveled, and he would still have about the SAME SP, probably a little more, because the harder the monsters the more SP they give.